Sao Paulo Reports

[Lefeu]

I was talking with my FKK buddies over in that forum and extolling the virtues of Brazil. For those that are interested, I said I'd explain the Brazil scene in the SP forum. So here I am. I can't profess to know everything and I am inclined to the high end of the market, so, PLEASE chime in here with your collective knowledge and let's help the FKK fellas see what they are missing...

A nice summary, comparing the FKKs to clubs in Brazil.

I have been going to FKKs since 2006, and managed to log 15+ trips, mostly around Frankfurt. I have also been to Rio close to 10 times, and to SP only once so far. If someone asked me the same question, I would advise them to visit all 3 venues, and then discuss the pros / cons of each venue. I think it depends on the personality of the monger, and how much Portuguese (or Spanish) they know. English is sufficient at the FKKs, not the case in Brazil. Hence, language ability can make a big difference in the enjoyment of a session, IMO.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I can only agree. Was in Tangara last week while in SP. Very nice lineup and had Lucy 3 x. The managers are particularly polite. When lucy was late on my third time with her, they called her and paid her cab to speed things up. For me, Tangara is the best bet in town. And I say this after trying many clinicas in SP.

Yes, the managers are very nice. However, I have been there three times in the last two weeks and have yet to session with anyone. There were maybe one or two I could have done, but the fuck factory atmosphere with lots of guys waiting in a queue to be the next guy to fuck a girl is a real turnoff.

Did a tour of less commented on clinicas (sometimes with other ISG members):

1) Redway was nothing special, did no one;

2) Nova Pan had 4 girls (one was busy) on Thursday (holiday), normally 6 girls there, Real 100/30 minutes, are $140/60 minutes. One fairly cute slim mulatta;

3) Clinica Nara had 6 girls on Thursday, normally 9, but no one I wanted to fuck, Real 180 for posters on gpguia.net;

4) Moema Prime had one girl I liked but she was gone the next time I went. Lineup probably comparable to Clinica Miruna, if a little smaller;

5) Chanes 57,5 girls available on Thursday, none interesting, two of whom didn't even give their names during the presentation;

6) Clinica Kin Center, 5 girls on a Saurday, nobody worthwhile;

7) Cancionero, 5 girls on a Saturday, none worthwhile;

8) Abbobora, 5 girls in the presentation, two of whom just waved at us, no way worth Real 260/60 minutes.

So far I have had the best luck at Nova Ceci, Miruna, Enjoy, and Espacio Morumbi.

[LikeGirls]

Glad to be back in SP. Went to Tangara first, about 5 pm, great lineup with choice of about 12 girls, several in my wheelhouse (I like petite, slim, young, natural tits). Finally chose Lucie, a 19-year old slim girl with fabulous natural tits that only teens have. She was a sweetheart, very pretty, with lots of GFE and DFK, good tease and foreplay, delicious DATY, excellent BBBJ, and then several CFS positions. She was nice and tight. I usually like a CIM finish, but she was so tight that I easily finished in mish with her legs wrapped around me. She didn't speak any English, but we did fine with Google Translate. Wonderful value for only 150 for the hour. I gave her a nice tip, too, and she encouraged me to see her again.

Next up is my visit to Casarao.

I can only agree. Was in Tangara last week while in SP. Very nice lineup and had Lucy 3 x. The managers are particularly polite. When lucy was late on my third time with her, they called her and paid her cab to speed things up. For me, Tangara is the best bet in town. And I say this after trying many clinicas in SP.

[Steve 9696]

I was talking with my FKK buddies over in that forum and extolling the virtues of Brazil. For those that are interested, I said I'd explain the Brazil scene in the SP forum. So here I am. I can't profess to know everything and I am inclined to the high end of the market, so, PLEASE chime in here with your collective knowledge and let's help the FKK fellas see what they are missing.

First I should mention that the primary club venues of Rio and SP are completely different. Rio is famous for its Termas (Sauna), which is the closest equivalent to an FKK. Has sort of the lounge around in a robe and drink whiskey vibe while picking out nice girls to fuck. I have not actually experienced this, so go to the Rio thread or someone else chime in, but Monte Carlo and Solarium looked appealing in this regard to me.

São Paulo is all about the Boate (bow-ah-chay) for a high end experience. Think of a deluxe nightclub, but where every chick wants to fuck you for money. You remember when you were first in your twenties and went to a nightclub and there were hot chicks there, but you had no game and couldn't figure out how to bed one? (Maybe that was only me). Same atmosphere here, but the only game you need is "Hi, my name is Steve" and a nice bankroll and any girl can be yours. Most all the clubs have rooms on site you rent. Some, like Sandallo, even serve you drinks while you are fucking (through a little revolving door). How sweet is that?

Top Boates in SP include Scandallo and BomBoa (Cafe Photo?) at the high end and Casarao is one notch down, but some real gems working there too. In Campinas (60 miles NW) there is Fazendinha out in the country -- holds pools parties and such also so might have some FKK like aspect, but I was only there at night. And Moustache is a tiny place in town, but the girls were hot.

During the day, there is a whole nuther thing going on with the Clinicas. Here, you go and have a beer in a waiting area, and they bring the girls in a parade one by one to choose from (like Brothels in Spain). The facilities can vary from quite dingy to quite nice. And the girls vary ALOT between Clinicas and even time of day. This was not really my thing, but I did have some quality sex and BBBJ with a pretty girl with a smokin body for $30. So there is high value here. Others are real fans of this scene and should please chime in.

Then of course there is a much seedier scene and even lower prices. However I think even more buyer beware and safety issues than RLD.

Hope this is helpful to my FKK buddies and maybe other SP noobs. See also the companion thread on tips and tricks. Have fun!

[Steve 9696]

This is a companion piece for my FKK buddies that collects my wisdom from my visit to SP. My best tips for success in SP. Hopefully it is useful to them and others.

Get Cash Early.

As people have said, use cash when you can. But here is the rub. Unlike other civilized countries, the hotels don't all have cash machines and the bank ones are locked up at 10 PM. So if you get horny at 11 PM, you are going to be using credit. Get your cash during the day so you are ready at night. Oh and beware not all the love motels take American plastic. Almost got stuck at one (u pay at the end) until we scrounged a few bills. Whew.

Brasileira Bunda.

The Brasileira bunda (butt) is an amazing thing. Never seen anything like it and it's a real draw. Tiny waist but nice really round butt. It's amazing because it is large but not fat. Firm but not hard like you get in the gym. It is a sort of magical creation. I have never seen it outside of Brazil. And even though I am an avowed tit man, I became a fan.

Uber Rules.

Take Uber everywhere. It is so cheap you don't even need to budget for it. Like I literally drove across town in Caxias do Sul and it was $3.

Boates (pronounced Bow-ah-chay).

The boates don't get rolling till late. If you go at 11 you will be early. I am not kidding. If you are still there at 3 you will have plenty of company.

Do Your Research if Going Online.

Finding gems is not a fluke. You have to dig deeper than a pretty face. Google their phone number. Stalk their Twitter. Go on gpguia.com and read their reviews. Mary Ninfeta has 40+ glowing reviews. My gem is no accident.

Learn basic Portuguese.

This totally changes the vibe. They are so impressed that you bothered they already like you better. And it really helps make it all less awkward. You can learn enough to be dangerous in 10-15 hours of content. So say a month at a half hour a day. Do it on your commute. It is an investment worth making.

Awkward Hotel Registration for Outcall.

If you bring her back to your hotel you are going to have to register her. There could be a small fee. The big thing is you have to be there with her signing her in. Can prove awkward for day meetings and trying to time so colleagues are not there.

Love Motels Rule!

Love motels are great and cheap. Maybe $20-25 for the time you need. Plus they have mirrors everywhere which is a bonus. There are plenty in Sao Paulo near the venues and there is one near Boate Ilha in Caxias do Sul. But its a 20 minute drive to one in Campinas.

Tattoos are Standard.

Virtually all the working girls have tattoos, even the innocent looking ones. You may not see them -- because they choose their clothes strategically. For example I now realize Duda's thigh high boots were to cover a large evil skull on her thigh. And she is actually tattedup nearly head to toe. Fortunately I thought the skull and all the rest rather badass. Eduarda, my Moustache girl had a pretty serious backplate. So just be prepared.

Brasilerias are Best!

Brasileiras are different and in a good way. They are more affectionate and fun than most escorts and they really aren't acting. They seem for the most part to enjoy the scene and your time together as much as you do. Of course YMMV but on balance very good souls.

Have fun fellas! And tell us all the gory details!

[Member #4732]

Totally agree with you. I've been using Uber during my visit and it is very cheap and efficient.

I use the metro sporadically now that is comes to Moema. I use it if I am out during rush hour. For example, I may uber to a place at 3 pm but take the metro back at 5 pm. Or if I am going on a longer journey, for example from Moema to Tatuape, or Pompeia, or Santana. So it all depends on the time and distance. I certainly wouldn't take it over Uber for a short trip during non peak hours.

[R The Man]

Glad to be back in SP. Went to Tangara first, about 5 pm, great lineup with choice of about 12 girls, several in my wheelhouse (I like petite, slim, young, natural tits). Finally chose Lucie, a 19-year old slim girl with fabulous natural tits that only teens have. She was a sweetheart, very pretty, with lots of GFE and DFK, good tease and foreplay, delicious DATY, excellent BBBJ, and then several CFS positions. She was nice and tight. I usually like a CIM finish, but she was so tight that I easily finished in mish with her legs wrapped around me. She didn't speak any English, but we did fine with Google Translate. Wonderful value for only 150 for the hour. I gave her a nice tip, too, and she encouraged me to see her again.

Next up is my visit to Casarao.

[R The Man]

I don't understand why you would take the metro when Uber is available and so cheap. If you want you can make Uber even cheaper by taking Juntos choice.

I guess metro makes sense during rush hour but then you are standing in a packed car.

Totally agree with you. I've been using Uber during my visit and it is very cheap and efficient.

[DoMat]

I don't understand why you would take the metro when Uber is available and so cheap. If you want you can make Uber even cheaper by taking Juntos choice.

I guess metro makes sense during rush hour but then you are standing in a packed car.

[Frankfurt]

Picture is worth a thousand words, thanks Nordico!

Rovnak you are correct -my itinerary is simple, will be staying close to Moema metro and plan to use metro lines to make trips to (1) clinicas in vicinity of metro stations (2) main touristy sites -that's pretty much it.

Thanks for the help.

Frankfurt.

Portuguese, English, Spanish.

[Member #4732]

Yesterday I travelled on the metro over to Zona Leste to try out a new clinica in Tatuape called Kelly's Massagens. It appeared on Gpguia in mid-October and has been getting good reviews.

How to get there.

I travelled by metro to the Carrao station on the Linha Vermelha (Red line 3). Once you go through the exit barrier at the station, turn left and walk along the walkway over the main road. At the end of the walkway you can descend by either taking the stairs (signposted Platform D) or walking down the ramp. Either route will bring you down into the bus station. Walk through the bus station. There are lots of quiosques selling food snacks and it it a good place to get a cheap meal if hungry. Everything is labelled with the price and the prices all seem the same (I had a cheese / ham sandwich and pao de quijo for 4 reais in total). Once past the bus station, turn right onto Rua Monte Serrat and then at the next junction (Rua Platina), cross over the road and walk 3 blocks until you come to Rua Francisco Marengo. On Marengo turn right and keep walking down. You will pass Espaco Marengo at 210 Rua Francisco Marengo which is worth checking out. It is about a 10 minute walk to reach Rua Euclides Pacheco. As a pointer that you are near, Rua Euclides Pacheco is two blocks after Rua Cantagalo. Turn left onto Rua Euclides Pacheco and Kelly's is number 1932..

Good report. There are some others not too far from the same metro, short uber ride from there is Clinica Analia Franco which is also well reviewed.

[Torgoch]

Yesterday I travelled on the metro over to Zona Leste to try out a new clinica in Tatuape called Kelly's Massagens. It appeared on Gpguia in mid-October and has been getting good reviews.

How to get there.

I travelled by metro to the Carrao station on the Linha Vermelha (Red line 3). Once you go through the exit barrier at the station, turn left and walk along the walkway over the main road. At the end of the walkway you can descend by either taking the stairs (signposted Platform D) or walking down the ramp. Either route will bring you down into the bus station. Walk through the bus station. There are lots of quiosques selling food snacks and it it a good place to get a cheap meal if hungry. Everything is labelled with the price and the prices all seem the same (I had a cheese / ham sandwich and pao de quijo for 4 reais in total). Once past the bus station, turn right onto Rua Monte Serrat and then at the next junction (Rua Platina), cross over the road and walk 3 blocks until you come to Rua Francisco Marengo. On Marengo turn right and keep walking down. You will pass Espaco Marengo at 210 Rua Francisco Marengo which is worth checking out. It is about a 10 minute walk to reach Rua Euclides Pacheco. As a pointer that you are near, Rua Euclides Pacheco is two blocks after Rua Cantagalo. Turn left onto Rua Euclides Pacheco and Kelly's is number 1932.

The Casa.

Walk through the gate and up the stairs on the left and enter the house. The cliniica is OK. It doesn't have the fancy, well decorated interior that some clinicas have (but you're not there for the decor, right? Kelly was super friendly and super talkative. I arrived at 1. 00 and although it opens at 12.00, I was the only client there. The room was ok, functional with shower and bed. No mouthwash facilities so bring your own. The door wasn't locked, my girl put a chair across it to keep it closed!

The girls.

Only one girl was there for the presentation when I arrived but luckily it was the girl I was after from my reading on gpguia, Vivi. Her reviews on gpguia are really positive. 26 years old. Big natural tits with large nipples. Nice big Brazilian butt. Super friendly. Not a stunner, more the girl next door type, but the girl next door with big tits and ass!! Only been in the game a couple of months. Didn't time waste, we had a short shower together. The sex was great. She particularly enjoys de quatro (doggy) which is great as you get a great view of her ass and the feel of it whilst banging. Whilst I was waiting for Vivi to get ready before we started, Kelly showed me photographs of the other girls. Some of them looked pretty good. I has also thought about Karina from the gpguia reviews and she looked good in her photos, pretty face and big butt.

The cost.

Gp guia says 160 reais for 1 hour. I gave her 200 reais, four 50 bills, and she gave me one back so I paid 150. They have a mileage scheme where after 5 sessions the sixth is free. They have no phone system to ring when the hour is up and nobody knocked on the door. I sad I wanted an hour but think I had an hour and 15 or 20 by the time we finished but I wasn't charged extra. If truth be told I only stopped as thought I might get charged extra but I wasn't and the house seems pretty relaxed and friendly.

In summary I would say it was worth a trip over. Make an afternoon of it by visiting all the Clinicas. There are three clinicas, Kellys, Espaco Marengo and Clinica Tatuape, close to the metro and within 10-15 minutes walking distance of the Metro. Both Kelly and Marengo are off the 'gringo track' and are cheaper (Marengo is 150 and hour). I went to Clinica Tatuape (Ruua Villela 1111) in 2015 but didn't session and haven't made a return visit since, There is also Clinica Allure that I also visited in 2015 but it is a longer walk to get to and, for me on the day, turned out to be not worth the effort.

I would recommend that you scope out Kellys, Espaco marengo and Clinica Tatuape that are all located close to metro Carrao.

[Nordico]

I don't know about language options on the machines. I only ever bought the paper tickets from the window when there was no line. Just learn the words for 10, 16, 20. However you want to purchase and be ready with the money.

Portuguese, English, Spanish.

[Member #4732]

Go to the Faria Lima Station and buy the Bilhete Unico. You can put as much money on it as you want. Note that if you're using the paper tickets the CPTM uses a different type of paper ticket and you'll end up buying different tickets for different Metro systems.

I am sure you are correct about transfers but I have used the metro to go from Moema to Morumbi, Vila Mariana, Brooklin, Tatuape, Moooca, Itaquera, Santana, Barra Funda, Republica etc and I never had to buy an extra ticket. I guess I never crossed over onto a CPTM train. I am not disputing that there are people who make such transfers all the time but I wonder if a visiting monger will actually do so given the locus of travel. I guess it depends on his itinerary. All things being equal I suspect the bilhete unica is worth it if he will be using the metro extensively. My usage is sporadic.

[Kcrl02]

Resurrecting the SP metro discussion as I am looking for a metro pass that's targeted for tourists or short term visitors. Unfortunately after bouncing website to website including SPTrans official site http://bilheteunico.sptrans.com.br/ I have not been able to find any concrete info either if such a weekly / tourist pass exists, where to buy it and how to add value etc. Some website refer to Anonimo card but some news article say that it is recently discontinued due to system-wide fraud -which means the only option to get 'Bilhete Unico' is to register officially with SPTrans and provide, photo, some equivalent of Tax ID (forgot the acronym). So for a non resident tourist that's a non starter.

So my question to gents familiar with the SP metro ticketing system:

1. Is there an option besides buying a paper ticket each time I want to travel on metro. I will be staying close to Moema metro Line 5 (lilac color) and hope to fully utilize the metro system as I hate taxis and traffic jams (who doesn't?

Go to the Faria Lima Station and buy the Bilhete Unico. You can put as much money on it as you want. Note that if you're using the paper tickets the CPTM uses a different type of paper ticket and you'll end up buying different tickets for different Metro systems.