Sao Paulo Reports

[GiuseppeBonera]

So went to Cafe photo last night since I was curious. Was not expecting to session as I had to work but stuff happens. I liked the idea of the girls not coming to me so I can chill and check out the talent. 150 to get in. For a Tuesday not bad with probably 50 girls an significantly less guys. I am very particular but found a Morena exactly my type. She quoted 900 rs I got here down to 800 rs no time limit at my hotel. She stayed with me for about 2.5 hours. One of the best I had. Will likely try Scandallo next week.

[BMo814]

Given the choices, there is no choice. Moema. Closer to everything you're looking for and easy to Uber in and out of during the day.

My personal preference is Alameda Santos, Bela Cintra, Jardins. But that is also just personal preference since I'm not much a Clinica guy. Independents for me thanks.

Thanks I'll probably look for a hotel in Moema or Jardíand like one of the other fellas says he likes. The apartment I booked on booking.com looks cool but no safe and bed is only a double. Thanks for the input from what I read on the board moema looks like where I should be. Thanks again.

[Polyamorist]

I would love to hit a value clinica, strong clinical and maybe casanarao or a strong dupla. (I am thinking of saving the Scandallo experience for if and when I am there). Recommendations from the regulars? Casanarao, Brooklin and some value clinica?

I could give you a couple of recommendations, but why believe me when you have data?

http://www.gp-guia.net/forum2015/vie...istby=date&f=8

You can see the price and BBBJ / DFK rates for each clinica based on many thousands of forum reports. For example, right away you can see that at Brooklin about 85% of the sessions include kissing while at Kahunas it appears to be less than 20%. Nevertheless (for some reason) less than 5% of guys marked their visit to Kahunas as "negative".

Some caveats about this data:

1. The "anal" and "oral" columns appear to be currently mixed up on this page. The real order is Oral / Anal / Kissing.

2. The price listed is for forum members. As a tourist you might have to pay more.

3. There is a bias for forum members to mark their visits as positive because they are given discounts. Consequently, figures are exaggerated.

4. Figures are also exaggerated because they only represent people who have written reports. If a tourist goes in, gets ripped off, and writes no report, his experience is not represented in this data. I also think a lot of quiet Asian locals get worse treatment here and write nothing about it. So, for example the 85% figure for Brooklin might not be accurate. It might be more like 50% overall. (My own experience is closer to 85%, but I take special care.).

Despite these caveats, I think this data is useful for comparative purposes. For example, the reported DFK rate at Yankin is only about 67%, and this matches my own experience so I don't go to Yankin any more.

The significance of this data goes beyond the technical quality of the sessions. If there's a high percentage of girls in a clinica turning down basic stuff like DFK and BBBJ, that could indicate they are unhappy in their jobs. We should not patronize any establishment where the workers are unhappy.

Here is the same list but for prives:

http://www.gp-guia.net/forum2015/vie...istby=date&f=9

Guys here often ask what the difference is between a clinica and a prive. Well, the set-up is basically the same, but from this data you can see that the prives are cheaper and have worse service rates.

[AltoBomGosto]

It looks like I will be visiting Sampa for 4 nights for final round interviews for a job in Pinheiros. I have been RTFF for awhile. If I do end up taking the job it is likely I will have a year before the family joins. 1 year of complete freedom to experience the local scene. I am trying to put together an itinerary for my trip to sample as much as possible in those 4 nights on a budget of about 800 reals and based in Pinheiros with limited travel time. I speak no Portuguese (yet). So ease and time efficiency are important. I am pretty omniverous sexually and lije everything from the gem value find to an occasional premium. I prefer GFE and attitude and no plastic. I will take that over a "10" or "19 year old" any day. Doesn't sound like I have to make that trade off here! I have never visited Brazil but have mongered in Korea, El Salvador, Costa Rica and the US.

I would love to hit a value clinica, strong clinical and maybe casanarao or a strong dupla. (I am thinking of saving the Scandallo experience for if and when I am there). Recommendations from the regulars? Casanarao, Brooklin and some value clinica? Maybe a recommended escort instead? I will report!

There is not much to do in Pinheiros, I recommend you stay in Paraiso, near to Av Paulista and largo Ana Rosa.

PM me.

ABG.

[Jib Reach]

I just wanted to report a great experience I had yesterday on photosaccompanhantes with bruninha:https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/a...lirio-id-hnbh8.

I was worried it was too good to be true because I had a bad experience before. But I saw she was verified and told her to meet in the lobby of the rennaisance. I waited at the door to see if she look like her pictures. She sent a what's up saying she would be arriving in a white jacket. Exactly like her picture! After she walked by I said Hi and got her registered at the front desk, the only negative part but the lady at the front desk was not apparently judging me. Anyway 1 hour 400 RS + 50 rs credit card fee and 20 rs Uber. Gave me a natural BJ and uphill from there. This garota is the real deal!

As long as they look discrete and civilian, there really is no reason to "register" them. She's simply a friend.

I was at the Renaissance this weekend and my girl and I simply walk in and we are done. Or she walks in alone. NBD.

I did see them give one guy a hard time about 5:00 am Sunday when he tried to get in with two GPS who looked like street walkers. Completely out of place for that hotel. Gente sem noção.

Job Reach.

[Jib Reach]

What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.

Given the choices, there is no choice. Moema. Closer to everything you're looking for and easy to Uber in and out of during the day.

My personal preference is Alameda Santos, Bela Cintra, Jardins. But that is also just personal preference since I'm not much a Clinica guy. Independents for me thanks.

[RonhinCruz]

It looks like I will be visiting Sampa for 4 nights for final round interviews for a job in Pinheiros. I have been RTFF for awhile. If I do end up taking the job it is likely I will have a year before the family joins. 1 year of complete freedom to experience the local scene. I am trying to put together an itinerary for my trip to sample as much as possible in those 4 nights on a budget of about 800 reals and based in Pinheiros with limited travel time. I speak no Portuguese (yet). So ease and time efficiency are important. I am pretty omniverous sexually and lije everything from the gem value find to an occasional premium. I prefer GFE and attitude and no plastic. I will take that over a "10" or "19 year old" any day. Doesn't sound like I have to make that trade off here! I have never visited Brazil but have mongered in Korea, El Salvador, Costa Rica and the US.

I would love to hit a value clinica, strong clinical and maybe casanarao or a strong dupla. (I am thinking of saving the Scandallo experience for if and when I am there). Recommendations from the regulars? Casanarao, Brooklin and some value clinica? Maybe a recommended escort instead? I will report!

[The Cane]

If it were me? I would book the apartment and maybe hire ABG to help navigate the security outcall situation if needed.

And if it were me, I would book a hotel in Moema (best of both situations in my book), do my research, and save my money for other uses by being my own navigator. It's easy, and for me more enjoyable to go exploring on my own.

[HarvestBoi]

Moema is better by a long shot imo. I stayed at the Hilton in morumbi and while it's a great hotel, the immediate neighborhood is kinda sterile and a bit far away from the main action (Tangara, Scandallo, Bomboa etc). There are a couple of clinicas nearby (Brookli, Oro) But I was disappointed in Brooklin and I don't think you'll find anything in Morumbi that you can't find elsewhere. I do think the Hilton would impress most garotas but moema is much more the real Brazil. If it were me? I'the book the apartment and maybe hire ABG to help navigate the security outcall situation if needed.

What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.

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[Polyamorist]

Plus there is no "let's go to the room" pressure compared to FKK.

No room pressure at all? A Scandallo girl once said to me, "I have a medical operation in a week and no money for it. I have to get a bus home and I don't have money for that either. I didn't do a session all day and I can't even pay my way out of the club. You're my last chance. I'll make you a special deal, 300 reals for the hour. ".

That is what I call Olympic-level room pressure. Any guy with a functioning heart would have broken down in tears and handed over his wallet no-questions-asked. As for me, I moved on. Too many years mongering I guess.

Anyway, my point is: Scandallo is really a mix of girl types. There are girls who are into room pressure. There are girls who don't seem interested in rooms at all but just try to cadge drinks and snacks off you constantly -- they are the biggest waste of space. But also certainly there are girls who are the Real Deal and will enjoy talking to you for hours and have smoking sex and also want to meet afterwards. They are what makes the club worthwhile, and indeed a superior option to most FKKs as you point out Habibi Steve.

[Steve 9696]

I forget Steve 9696. Have you told us your approximate age? I think some youth helps mongers establish "girlfriend experiences".

I remember when I was in my 30's / early 40's the working girls liked to hang out and it was easy to turn an encounter into an overnight session or a multiday affair. Lots of drinking, dancing, cultural stuff and the beach. There were also plenty of opportunity to hook-up with civilian girls in the right venues.

Many of the working girls would seem to grow a genuine fondness for me and vice versa. Of course, I realize many of the girls might have had uneventful lives. Foreign men with means and some youth would drop in and provide them some excitement.

This actually made me feel somewhat invincible. I would offer a girl back at the apartment an opportunity to hang out, make more money, etc. Some girls would just want their money and to go home. So haha, not every Brasileira found me irresistible back in the day.

So I am in my fifties but have most of my hair and am slim and in reasonable shape, so probably your above average 50's dude. Still no illusions. I think girls can be OK with how I look, but enjoy my company and see past my age with the promise of some dollars to soften the blow.

Basically I am not too objectionable looking, a ton of fun, and have $ to boot. I suspect they also feel my vibe — and that is I have mad respect for WGs and treat them with respect and tenderness. Women are very perceptive and I'm sure this vibe shows through.

Anyhow whatever it is is working pretty well! Just trying to keep all my SA chats straight! And looking forward to SP!

Oh and Bianca my recent SP find was a total bust. She wanted $500 USD for our date! LOL. OMG and other acronyms! What universe does she live in? This is SP not LA!

[GiuseppeBonera]

It use to be a big deal. The top dog and most expensive boate in SP about 20 years ago. Some of the girls were allegedly models and this and that..

I read in another post Cafe foto has different rules than Bamboa or Scandallo. What would those be?

[DreamCarnarvon]

What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.

I agree with WyattEarp that you should stay in Moema. Moema is more centrally located and its one of the nicer and more upscale neighborhoods of SP. There are several clinicas and boates in the area, which is a plus. If I had the budget, Moema would be one of my top choice to stay in SP.

[WyattEarp]

What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.

Moema is better in my opinion. From my experience, Morumbi is a bit out of the way due to the Sao Paulo traffic.

[BMo814]

What's a better area in the boards opinion, Morumbi or Moema? I have 2 reservations one at an apartment in Moema and one in Hilton Mourmbi. If I read the Hilton is guest friendly which is the original reason I booked the apartment in the first place, thinking it may be easy to bring guess to the apartment then I read the ladies are a bit timid about coming to apartments so I'm leaning toward Hilton Morumbi but would like why'all opinion.