Sao Paulo Reports

[Member #4732]

1st things 1st. A big thank you to all of you who provide info and post your experiences in this thread. My first trip to Sao Paulo and due to this thread I knew exactly where to go and what to do. The info here is invaluable. Many thanks.

The level of GFE that I've experienced has been top notch. I also found a site that lists all of the escorts by blonde, brunette, mulatto etc. https://www.gptwitter.com/.

I intend to try the Moema clinicas today and will report back.

Very good report. Glad you are enjoying yourself. That new gptwitter filter site looks awesome, best development for online searching that I have seen in a long time, great news.

Too bad you do not have PMs or I would try to meet up with you at the Moema clinics in my neighborhood. Have fun.

[OGC81]

1st things 1st. A big thank you to all of you who provide info and post your experiences in this thread. My first trip to Sao Paulo and due to this thread I knew exactly where to go and what to do. The info here is invaluable. Many thanks.

My trip has been weird. I'm here on business and every time I decided to hit up a clinica I had to jump on a call or put out a work related fire. I'm staying in Moema at a guest friendly hotel so for the last three days I've only engaged with escorts that outcall or allow a visit to them. While doing my pre trip research I found 8 escorts who are active on Twitter and using Gpguia to check their reviews I've struck gold 7/8 so far. These women devoured me as soon as the hotel room door closed. The level of GFE that I've experienced has been top notch. I also found a site that lists all of the escorts by blonde, brunette, mulatto etc. https://www.gptwitter.com/. I think it's a combination of luck, getting a sense of their energy from their tweets, 'bom energia' and that I had to adjust to the fact that they don't look at being punctual as I do being from New York LOL. They take their time responding and are usually 15-20 minutes late. I met one girl while although the sex was good it looked like she was having a fight with someone on her phone so she was apologizing way too much. I'm not easily annoyed so it was all good. There are two women that I just had to see and they were just plain drop dead gorgeous. If we are allowed to post their Twitter pages here I will. I encountered no bait and switch and all looked like their pictures. I'm using whatsapp to communicate with them all.

I intend to try the Moema clinicas today and will report back.

[Kcrl01]

Well, yes and no. Technically, both mean girl with garota having the connotation of slim. Another common word for girl is moa. All can also be used to refer to adult women in the same way that in English it was possible before political correctness to call a woman a girl.

In Brazil, the phrase "garota de programa" has become so established in the culture that one is perhaps risking offending an arbitrary woman if you call her a "garota". Whereas with "menina" you only risk the same political correctness issue you have in english to a certain extent.

Within the putaria world, garota and meninas are actually both applicable, and both mean adult women, working girls, in the context of a adult entertainment establishment. It is perfectly ok to ask the reception at a club or spa "how many meninas" are working. In fact, "menina" is used at least as or more frequently verbally than "garota", because menina is a bit softer and more flattering these days, I believe. So you will often hear the reception calling out "Meninas! Apresentaao!" I never hear them call out "Garotas, Apresentaao".

Had this been a short essay question on one of my comparative linguistics quizzes, I give you an A, take the rest of the semester off and let you teach!

Well done.

P.S. Was preparing a similar post but you were faster to the draw!

[The Cane]

Within the putaria world, garota and meninas are actually both applicable, and both mean adult women, working girls, in the context of a adult entertainment establishment. It is perfectly ok to ask the reception at a club or spa "how many meninas" are working. In fact, "menina" is used at least as or more frequently verbally than "garota", because menina is a bit softer and more flattering these days, I believe. So you will often hear the reception calling out "Meninas! Apresentaao!" I never hear them call out "Garotas, Apresentaao".

Same thing is very common in the Spanish-speaking world where working women are quite normally called or referred to as "ninas".

[Member #4732]

Menina is more little girl. Garota more girl or a young lady I would say. P4 P girls are often called Garotas de Programe. Definitely not meninas.

Well, yes and no. Technically, both mean girl with garota having the connotation of slim. Another common word for girl is moça. All can also be used to refer to adult women in the same way that in English it was possible before political correctness to call a woman a girl.

In Brazil, the phrase "garota de programa" has become so established in the culture that one is perhaps risking offending an arbitrary woman if you call her a "garota". Whereas with "menina" you only risk the same political correctness issue you have in english to a certain extent.

Within the putaria world, garota and meninas are actually both applicable, and both mean adult women, working girls, in the context of a adult entertainment establishment. It is perfectly ok to ask the reception at a club or spa "how many meninas" are working. In fact, "menina" is used at least as or more frequently verbally than "garota", because menina is a bit softer and more flattering these days, I believe. So you will often hear the reception calling out "Meninas! Apresentaçao!" I never hear them call out "Garotas, Apresentaçao".

[Steve 9696]

What is the difference between a garota and a menina?

Menina is more little girl. Garota more girl or a young lady I would say. P4 P girls are often called Garotas de Programe. Definitely not meninas.

[SnarkHunter]

P. S. There are no chicas in Brazil, we speak Portugus and the word GAROTA is the correct one.

What is the difference between a garota and a menina?

[Polyamorist]

Sounds like you had a kickass time at Scandallo, Sayyid Steve. I thought this good info from January was worth reposting for first-time visitors:

Yes, they ask for ID, my buddy had brought a photocopy of his passport. I had none with me, so they asked for CC but I only carry cash. Finally the girl let me just tell her my name.

It was the same with me. At first they asked for my ID, but that's not something I ever give to sex clubs. They put on a stern face but it was just an act: they eventually backed down. After all at the end of the day they are in business to make money. If it ever gets to the point that they are more interested in our data than our cash we will have to ask: why?

I expect this ID check will go away once the Brazilian General Data Protection Act comes into effect in 2020. In the meantime, while Brazil is still the Wild West of data, we have to just grin and play the game. The name you give doesn't have to be real, it is just a moniker to identify you for repeated visits. Of course, if you dress like a tramp they may use the ID thing as an excuse to shut you out. But generally Brazilians are a pretty laid-back people.

[Steve 9696]

So it's the very last night of my trip and where else would I choose to go but Scandallo? I was drag ass tired and considered not going. What a mistake that would have been. So, professional that I am, I powered thru.

I roll up around 11 PM and it's quite packed like one would expect. First I spend a bit of time on the patio. It's more relaxed out there, before the crush of the club. A few pretty girls that are maybes but no one lights me up.

I decide to wade into the thick of it, which is the main area with the band and grab my second drink. And it's packed. Pretty much have to turn sideways to wend your way thru the crowd. I can't really estimate but surely over 100 girls just in that part, maybe 150? It is a buffet that is unequalled worldwide in my opinion.

I have a certain type and it's a very narrow window. So out of the 150 I will probably find 5 or less that are up my alley even tho they are all pretty in their own way. At some point Julliana from last week appears. She is a sweet girl and pretty and I would repeat under other circumstances. But not with such a target rich environment. So I give her a kiss and move on (later I find out she was pissed. But hey.).

I find one of the very best places to do the girl-buffet is up near the stage to the right. You can stand on the little step there and for some reason a lot of the ladies have a loop that goes right by there. But bear in mind others never leave the back of the room so you need to work both.

While the ladies are on parade there are one or two who catch my eye and I file them for future reference. One particular beauty is wearing a floral print top and matching wrap-around skirt. She has lovely dark eyes and long black hair. Tawny skin. Just my type. We make brief but meaningful eye contact.

This reminds me, it is very interesting how the game is played:

1 Eye contact and quick eye aversion. One of the parties is not interested. Move on.

2 Brief eye contact - 2-3 seconds. Dig you let's talk later.

3 Strong sustained eye contact. Let's talk right now baby.

The irony with number 2 is if you are careful not to let it go to defcon 3 then you only get a brief look at your girl. My tropical girl gets eye contact level 2 - I need further confirmation and file her for later.

Later when I am surveying from the back of the room, I notice that tropical-girl is next to me. I do another quick meeting of the eyes and then drop after a couple seconds. As I turn away, it hits me she is the one. So I reengage and turn towards her and engage her in my broken Portugus. (In retrospect I realize that she is not next to me by accident. She had marked me also after the first gaze and sought me out. Well good for her because she got it right!

Wow fuck this girl is a real doll. We chat briefly but it's very loud in the club. So we adjourn to the couches in the hall. I'd never really noticed that there are nice couches lining the hall between the restaurant and the club. What a great place to get to know each other. And we do. She's got an architectural degree and hopes to practice soon. She says she loves Scandallo because it's so classy and I agree.

God she is beautiful and I need to move this to the next level but don't want to do a room and be done. So I ask if she wants a drink and does she like dancing. Sim and sim! (All discussion is Portugus. She knows no English.).

So we head back to the main part of the club. She is very girlfriendy, leading me by the hand. We get her a drink and find a section in the middle where there are some tables that create sufficient dancing space. So we put our drinks here and start some dancing. Well not really. More like hips to hips swaying regardless of the beat. And some grinding and gyrating.

The dancing is very sexy and intimate. One of the things that melts my soul is when a girl looks deep into my eyes. Not enough of this so far this trip including my spectacular BA girlfriend. So when Andressa concentrates those liquid browns on mine it is delicious. We lean in and kiss a little. Light stuff at first. A little tongue mixed in as things progress. I honestly enjoy this as much as the room. I did it with Josy for an hour or so last week and loved it. With Andressa it is not the full on tongue tangled mackin like Josy, but very pleasant. And the balance will tip toward Andressa In the room, where she is a goddess.

After 20 minutes or it could be a half hour of dance-flirting I think we were both ready for the room. We do it via Google translate. She initiates with "What do you like to do during sex". Nice. I like the directness. "I like blowjob without condom. And kissing in missionary". Hoping just for an OK, I instead get a surprising "I love BJ without condom. " Which clearly is no lie we discover later.

The room is down the elevator and back up the stairs. R200 at the counter. Again led by the hand, we find our room.

Standing by the bed she faces me and does the full on liquid brown eyes and we kiss a bit. She then turns around and I untie her top. This BFGF part is very sexy and I love when girls do it. It's the first exposure to her tits and they are spectacular BeeCups. Super fine. We get her skirt off as well and then she undoes my buttons and belt. I love being undressed and she is very sexy doing it.

After showers she puts me on my back, straddles me, and sexily crawls up me till we are face to face and plants a strong kiss on me. Love kissing her. She lies fully on top of me, naked junk to lady parts. Gets me rather hard just moving our hips.

Then like a sexy cat she crawls back down and takes me in her mouth, never breaking eye contact. And she is VERY good downstairs. Top one or two of the trip. Lots of licking while giving the doe eyes. Plenty of BLS. A nice buffet of blowjob. Fortunately her being the tenth (ish) fuck of the trip I have plenty of stamina and don't threaten a stack-blowing despite her skills.

Now it's her turn as I turn her on her back. I start by just kissing her deeply but then work down to those spectacular tits. She doesn't get the mega hard nipples like Joana the prior night but she seems to respond in a basic way. Now it's time to move on down.

I take my time going there hoping to get her worked up. When I reach the goal I start some really good tongue work. Her clit is a bit covered so I push up the surrounding flesh to get better access (learned this recently). But despite this, the response is pretty demure. At five or so minutes in, I think she is bored and maybe I should stop. But I do something right and get a little breath intake and head grab. So I keep at it. Sure enough she is just a super slow build.

I spend quite some time working on her as she slow-builds. The magic ticket tho is when I work my index finger inside and curl it back to her Gspot. Using both tongue and fingers is getting her super hot and bothered. I start to feel a small wave and then a huge bucking wave of pussy clamps. Don't know that I've felt that strong a reaction inside a pussy ever before. Made me feel great that I could get her off like that.

Afterwards she just lies fully spent just staring up at me with something like admiration or gratitude. This was no act. She is like a limp wet fish so completely satisfied. But she wants to reciprocate so does a bit more BJ then she grabs the condom and starts riding cowgirl. What a sight! Perfect tits pressed together. Sometimes she'll throw her head back and put her arms back and lean back, just letting go. Fuck she is a stunner -- like a 9. 5.

She switches to RCG which I don't usually prefer but she does a great job. After a while I move her to her back and plunge into Mish. This is really really good. Lots of Mish kissing but she seems to like it best when she buried her face in my neck and wraps her legs strong around me. This is so fine I think I may cum in Mish which I love. But it fades.

In the end, we roll over and lose the condom and she works me by mouth. She has to use every trick in the book and is down at least another ten minutes maybe more. Spectacular climax with ten minutes left on the room.

So we shower, I get her number (ALWAYS do this with Brasileiras) and later get some model-level pics the next day via WhatsApp. Wow what a girl!

[Steve 9696]

Just google map'ed this Caxias do Sul. It quite out there, half way between Sao Paulo and the Uruguay border. What were you doing out there if you don't mind me asking?

I always wanted to venture outside of the big cities (IE SP, Rio, Belo Horizonte) and see what the rural area / small towns have in offer as far as mongering goes. Brazil is so huge and beautiful, I know for sure there would be many surprises for me to see and experience. The only thing holding me back is my concern for my safety being a solo traveler. I had no problem traveling solo all over Cambodia but Brazil to me is another story. I mean I would definitely stick out like a sore thumb and would definitely be an easy target. I would probably need a travel companion, preferably a native Brazilian, to come with me if I was going to do it. But it would no doubt be a blast. I hope I can convince my Brazilian friend to do it.

I assume you went there by yourself, and if so, I commend you bravery. But your report was definitely a fun read. I was expecting another report of Scandallo and this report was both surprising as well as refreshing.

I work as a database consultant and we have some clients in the CDS area.

This advice is not for everyone. I lead a glass half full kind of life. Almost everything turns out well. So with that caveat my advice is to take the adventure. 90% of the time I am alone when I do the girls thing. But I make friends easily. Here are a few quickies where I took a chance and it came up aces:

CDS last year. My girl and I had been to the room at my hotel. I was not done for the night after round one. Brought her back to the club as a wingman. Found a sexy little number. She said let's go to the hotel Shell drive. So we blast through CDS at 3 AM windows down blond hair everywhere and AC / DC blasting "She's Got the JAck" on the stereo. Fucking priceless.

San Jose Found an off the record club that is a cafe during the day and an illegal strip club at night. They go to close up at 1 but I make a new friend who happens to be a pro soccer player and I join his posse for the unlicensed club in an office park. Some ad agency sign out front. Blacked out windows. $100 to get in. And voila a huge party with a parade of girls and you choose the one you want to party with (no sex but fun).

Moscow standing outside Golden Girls. They are not open yet. Make a new friend. Turns out he director of sales. Has a driver. Pays my cover with his membership and we party and smoke hookah. Then he says let's go have some real sex and we drive across town to another club where the girls are for hire. This was my intro to P4P in Moscow where I am now very comfortable.

Like I said not for everyone. Everyone of these could have ended badly. But that is not how I roll and the world seems to roll with me!

[Ktezmo]

I will be visiting SP at the end of August, and I am looking for girls with a specific physical attribute of large pussy lips / large clit. I've gone through this forum as well as GP-GUIA and learned that the Portuguese term for this is "Greluda". I've found a couple of independents on photoacompanhantes by searching for "greluda", but I wanted to put it out to this group to see if anyone could help me locate some girls in SP with this attribute (whether independent or at a clinica). Here are two examples of what I am looking for:

https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/a...atica-id-rq9ky

https://twitter.com/srtaa_reisp?lang=en

[DreamCarnarvon]

This actually took place in a small town called Floras the Cunha, not far from Caxias do Sul. But everyone comes here to learn Brazil landscape. Will cross post.

Just google map'ed this Caxias do Sul. It quite out there, half way between Sao Paulo and the Uruguay border. What were you doing out there if you don't mind me asking?

I always wanted to venture outside of the big cities (IE SP, Rio, Belo Horizonte) and see what the rural area / small towns have in offer as far as mongering goes. Brazil is so huge and beautiful, I know for sure there would be many surprises for me to see and experience. The only thing holding me back is my concern for my safety being a solo traveler. I had no problem traveling solo all over Cambodia but Brazil to me is another story. I mean I would definitely stick out like a sore thumb and would definitely be an easy target. I would probably need a travel companion, preferably a native Brazilian, to come with me if I was going to do it. But it would no doubt be a blast. I hope I can convince my Brazilian friend to do it.

I assume you went there by yourself, and if so, I commend you bravery. But your report was definitely a fun read. I was expecting another report of Scandallo and this report was both surprising as well as refreshing.

[Steve 9696]

This actually took place in a small town called Floras the Cunha, not far from Caxias do Sul. But everyone comes here to learn Brazil landscape. Will cross post.

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So I know the Boate scene in Caxias is pretty lame, having been last year. I've been doing more research and found a Boate called SusiNight in an adjacent town. It looks pretty credible but you just never know. And it's a 25 minute drive. But I rather like the idea of an adventure into the mountainous countryside.

So off I Uber to SusiNight. I ask the driver in Português which is better Boate Ilha where I've been before or this new one. He says the new one is much better so that is promising. But expectations are still low. I mean we are in The middle of nowhere.

When I arrive it certainly seems credible -- three or four security guys. One gives me a card, marks the R30 entry fee on it and sends me in. This being lower brow they use physical pink cards to track your consumption. Drinks are R70 each ($17) so this is where you will rack up your bill if you are not careful or don't care (looking at you Steve! They put a little x on your card for each drink you order for yourself or a girl.

There are probably about 15-20 girls and 5 or 6 guys when I arrive around 11. I get a neutral table and survey. Mostly a 5-7 type lineup. Not Bomboa, but will do for a country-living experience.

The waitress / concierge asks what I want to drink and brings Jack and Coke, marking my pink card. A few minutes later she brings a girl. She is quite cute but not quite my type with Ruby red lips and deep blue eyes.

It is pretty awkward because I am stone cold sober and even though my hooker Portuguese has gotten pretty good it's quite loud and it's hard to deal with a foreign language.

The waitress comes back and asks if I want to order the lady a drink. I want to be nice but I know if I do she will stay. And she is not my type even though she is a solid 9 amongst the 6-7's. So I decline and a few moments later she takes the hint and moves off, looking a little sad. Boo. I hate doing that!!

Meanwhile I have spotted a cutie in some torn Daisy Dukes across the way. She's sitting by herself and very much my type -- slim and darker with deep brown eyes and full lips. So I go over to chat her up. Again not a single word of English. Up close she is a shade less pretty. Banging body (solid 9) but totally fucked teeth. Made be think of Lisa DCups in Shanghai. Much slimmer but the teeth. Somehow tho it's kind of appealing.

I bring her back to the table and buy her a drink in what turns out to be the beginning of a very long party that is a fucking blast. We find a table where we can sit and the chairs are bar height -- which turns out to be important later.

The first half hour is a bit awkward. I am doing my best in Português but the awkwardness fades with each round of drinks though. I get my girl dancing and she is showing me the 1 left 2 right variation -- I had done this with Scandallo Josy so I was getting the hang of it.

A song comes on with a great latin vibe and the guy at the table next to me indicates his and my girl should dance together. I don't think they know each other but they are both liquored up now and they get into a tight embrace like you would for tango and they tear up the floor. It is the most beautiful and sexy thing you can imagine. I want to jack off right then! And they have a blast. I LOVE it when club girls are truly enjoying themselves and not pretending. And this was that.

When my girl returns she is all worked up and there is more cuddling and hands on as things have loosened up. Now when something with a strong latin beat comes on she starts twerking for her man. Booty backed up against my growing cock I know Joana can feel it and she likes it.

Despite some great sex later, this booty shaking grinding lesi-dancing and just general partying is the best part. A top notch time. And 2+ hours of this. The time flew by.

When Joana was taking a break from booty shaking she would just back up to me in the chair and sway. Eventually she put my hands on her tits. Giving a good squeeze, I could feel that despite the thick bustier she had a nice set of be naturals. Having been invited, I take to squeezing her tits often. Super nice.

After a couple hours of this I am thinking we need to get to the room soon. It's maybe 1:30 but its so fun it is hard to stop. Still I need to fuck this girl soon because I will burst otherwise.

So she suggests a smoke break and we go on the back patio. She doesn't have enough cigarettes so we share one. It's rather sexy.

I talk to Joana and ask "blowjob sem camisa" -- she pulls out Google translate and says "if you are hygienic". I assure her I am. And no CIM which is ok. She offers R400 and I counter R300 (US $75) and she readily accepts. She says she really really likes me. Awesome.

For R100 we go to a cabin which are rooms with leather benches on the second floor but they are open on one side to the dance floor below which is interesting.

By now my girl has had three drinks in her tiny 90 lb frame and is wildly into me and the moment. Passionate kissing. Then she gets her top off and I get to feel those beauties up close and personal. Not only great firm handsize tits but nipples that are super erect and a solid 15-20 mm tall and 12 mm in diameter. I mean really first class.

She bends over the bench and does more ass shaking now in her thong. Then fully naked does a grinding lapdance on me first in my jeans and then in my underwear. Soon the clothes are off and she's doing a nice BBBJ as agreed. Nothing earth shattering but very nice.

Now it's her turn and I go down on her working her clit strongly. She is squirming and moaning. At one point the music pauses just as she lets out a big moan. LOL. I love that she it getting very wet. As I take my tongue into her slit from time to time it's wet with that perfect girl smell. I work my left index finger up inside and curl it back on her gspot. Jackpot! Working mouth and fingers together she really gets off. And I work my own shaft with my right hand the whole time. Very sexy stuff.

We do some doggie and some very nice RCG. Not usually a fan of that because it bends me the wrong way in bed but sitting on a bench it totally works. And with her flowing black hair to her butt it's mighty sexy.

Finally we turn to Mish and it is really great. Great pussy feel and with one leg on the bench and one foot firmly planted on the floor I can pound away. She seems to REALLY enjoy this too, alternating legs wide open and clamped around me. Finally we end up with me on my back her standing bent over blowing me and me with my finger in her pussy. I really love to finger wet pussy while being blown so sure enough -- boom boom go boom.

The winddown from here is rather comedic. First my girl tells me how much she likes me and wants to go again and what a nice and gentle person I am and please don't leave. She is just about sobbing for like 20 minutes as I attempt to extricate myself from the club. The good news is she keeps kissing me super passionately as she begs me to stay so it's not time wasted. Actually really great wet kissing.

Well Uber totally fails me and cannot find a driver at 2:30 AM. And they say there is no taxi either. So me and the handler girl agree that "some guy" will take me in a little bit for R50. Well it turns out the guy is a young dude who is running the food truck. And we have two hookers hitching a ride as well. So the sandwich guy is blasting through the mountains at 50 mph in this tiny car with hooker1 up front and hooker2 in the back with me. Priceless shit!

I arrive home safely! My final bill at the club was R880. So those drinks really add up. But still over 3 hours with a beautiful girl and 4-5 rounds of drinks for $200 is unbelievable. I LOVE Brasil.

[Rrocket]

I have confirmation I will be in Sampa Aug 7-11th along with the details. A couple of specific questions.

1) I will be staying at George V Branca Casa near Oscar Freire. Does anyone know if this hotel is girl friendly? In general are these sorts of hotels girl friendly and is there any procedure I need to know about. Girls checking in etc?

2) Ideally I would like to do my first dupla at the hotel. I have identified reviewed pairs on the Portuguese forums that interest me I plan to contact. Bad idea to have them to my hotel? Any recommendations from experience would be appreciated. (Still working to get my box here paid for and set up). Also, is 4 hands in the clinicas just code for dupla or is there something else I have to negotiate? My thought is I would prefer girls that enjoy and are practiced in dupla instead of some random clinical pairing.

3) Final question. While plan on hitting a clinica I also..

My experience is that sometimes you just go up, and sometimes the dude at the door asks you to register the girl at the front desk. Actually, the girls seem to expect it. At the Renaissance near Avenida Paulista, they always want the girl to register, but there is no problem taking them up with you.

[Steve 9696]

Curious because I'm planning trip in November in the boates the fee is for an hour or the time.

Is negotiable? And how long is the room rental? Glad you having a great time.

The room is the part that is hourly not the girl. Though you might want to discuss it upfront if you plan two hours for example.

If you run over the room time they start fining you. It was R50 for ten minutes over last year. Did not go over this year.

I should mention two other things. The rooms at Scandallo have a little revolving drinks door so you can order in private any time. And the rooms have been massively upgraded. Granite and marble everywhere and dual showers which is nice.