Sao Paulo Reports

[Nrlmus]

Thanks for the report. It's always good to have a recap of top venues.

Granted there is a lot wanting on how this site is organized, but keep in mind it's a global site mostly organized by geography. A city or country specific sex site might have one thread called Scandallo where one can easily drill down on everything Scandallo.

There's no reason to get all salty about the responses you received. All the advice you have been given regarding reports of distinction, the advanced search feature, et cetera is often given to newbies. In fact, there might not be a venue that gets written up here as much as Scandallo.

As far as Sperto and others, they can be a bit impatient. However, we all get messaged regularly by others asking questions like where and how to get civilian girls. I just tell them if you don't have "game" back home don't bother. And it still takes work so you might be going home alone.

I repeat what I mentioned on the Rio board. The more you send newbies to read high volumes of text and do searches, the higher prices YOU are going to pay in Scandalo.

Usually people don't take kindly to being lectured or send to do something. So you rest assured that most of them wouldn't heed to your suggestion. Nobody likes to be brushed off. That's called poisoning the well. Do you know how many PMs I got following me expressing unhappiness on the open forum from people that were blown off by being suggested to go and read up? 4. That's a lot.

One of the reasons prices go up is because newbies don't know any better. There is nothing worse for price gauging then to be arriving to the new country where everything is much much cheaper and not having a correct benchmark.

If, let's say, someone tries to give a newbie an unreasonably low benchmark in anticipation that that would help keep the ladies' rates down it would only make the situation worse. Once newbie feels that nobody accepts his offer, he'd just get frustrated and end up paying the girl's ask because it's still going to be dirt cheap compared to his Boston, Paris or Sydney. Because of that soon enough you'd be paying what he paid. The more newbies know the better it would be for the old timers in the long run. That's why I think sending people to read War and Peace and telling them to learn how to search is self-defeating and hurts all of us.

[Nounce]

... I don't see much about changing usd cash in SP even online they just say its better to use the ATM ...

I see it often enough.

Got cash changed today at Seattle Tourismo in Jardim Paulista. Official rate was 4. 97 and I changed at 4. 90. Was able to get it all in 200 R bills. Gave them the new $100 bills only.

[Sato San]

The other interesting thing that none of us damn foreigners could ever be aware of is that apparently in Sao Paulo you can't withdraw more than $R500 on Sundays. After striking out with Uber I tried to get my usual $R1,000 out of the ATM and three times got 'operation canceled, service unavailable'. The hotel receptionist then told me that apparently there is a law in Sao Paulo that prohibits banks from dispensing more than $R500 on Sundays. Something to keep in mind to prevent yourself from feeling anxious like I did.

Good info froma birds eye view in the club always good to read different experiences, I don't see much about changing usd cash in SP even online they just say its better to use the ATM but I think changing cash is better leaves less of a paper trail and keeps the credit card free for emergencies and other things. Hve you any advice on changing cash in SP?

[Steve 9696]

WorkdTravel69.

There are not many posts in the Argentina thread. With the peso collapse to 1:400 in the black market, are there advantages for visitors? I am tempted to make a trip.

Your BS As map show a lot more privados and SWs than I remember. I save the map, gracias, but are there ways to know what kinds of girls work in which privados, which one have hot girls vs the older, chunky women I found in most privados?

SWs seem to hang out on a couple streets South of Plaza San Martin. Are girls hot young slim? What are their rates? Do they go to nearby hotels for business, or you have to take them to your hotel?.

I assume the escort sites are going strong. I booked a few very nice, hot girls from those sites.

Found some very nice hot young girls at then bar Envidia on Rividia. I heard it's closed. Are there any bar like Envidia anywhere? Tourists reported lots of girls in bars around Recoleta but not sure they will do sex.

The girls in BA call it Baires. Since the official scene sucks I did Seeking arrangements a few times and had great success. Once I found the love of my life and we spent the weekend together. Including going to a swingers club (her idea) where we had a blast (did not swap). Then had two different girls in 2022. One a pure 10 in looks and attitude and accent! And another a solid 8 with natural Ds and bareback. So three for three using Seeking Arrangements in Baires. High recommend.

[Nrlmus]

At least on Monday the Uber drivers were on strike.

It began on Sunday night though.

[WyattEarp]

Saturday night I finally made it to the famed Scandalo. This is my take. I'm a total newbie in terms of clubs (have other interests too believe it or not). I spend enough time in Rio and haven't even been to 4*4. This message is primarily meant for newbies like me that don't want to read pages and pages of War and Peace and comments that follow them. I really don't care what the old timers think about me rehashing what they already know for the 500th time. Don't want to read it skip to the next post or go back to your RODs. Am I pissed a bit at the attitude I've seen here so far here? You figure that out.

I liked Scandalo. It definitely didn't live up to the hype, and subsequently my expectations but it's a good place. A lot of good-looking women of all ethno-racial diversity available in Brazil. Surprisingly a sufficient number of those that I consider to be on the ugly side too. Many of them however I saw being occupied by guys like me so tastes differ I guess, often in extreme.

Most of women hang around at the bar in the main room expectantly looking out towards the tables most of which seemed to be occupied by the bored single men having a drink. It takes whopping are $500 to enter the place but from what I understand it's less before 7 pm. Out of this 500 you can spend 300 on food and drink. The restaurant is the first room you'd see. The dinning hall looked nice and pretty quite. The aforementioned blonde and I finished our attempt at the world record in making out and grouping over nice order of fried calamari and highly fresh sushi. There is some great food at Scandalo no doubt.

One of the questions I was going ask on the forum but didn't get a chance since I was getting such a strong push back from the old timers was how hard do they crank up their AC. Not that hard.

T-shirts are fine imo. No reason to do like I did and bring along a sweater or a jacket that you may forget on the way out.

Instead of sitting down I decided to do what many girls do and stroll around the premises. Got some looks as I passed but than some hot looking blonde smile gently, I smiled back, and she quickly put her hand on my shoulder. I liked the touch. It was gentle, not overly insistent, and promised high level of good energy exchange. What happened then you can read in the cited post.

Couple of things to keep in mind: girls don't get commission for you getting them food or drink. I was watching her as we were ordering. She gave nothing to the waiter who didn't appear to even know her name. According to the blonde, each of them pays are $300 entrance fee each day they come to Scandalo and that's that. The money that you negotiate with her she says she doesn't share with the house. You just pay house for the room. I think there is also an exit fee for taking them out of Scandalo. That being said the girl can leave at any point, and if she really likes you you can just agree to meet somewhere else and skip the exit fee.

Few more things that happened to me in two days I spend in Sao Paulo. Next day I discovered that my Uber no longer summons rides. It was towards the evening, but I was really in the middle of some park dressed in summer clothes. What happened was when I clicked on Confirm ride it went to the Uber map with blue dot showing my location but that's that. It would show Uber cars passing by me, but nothing was being done about my request. Anybody experienced anything like this? Never happened to me before. I messaged Uber but still had to take a taxi to the airport. When I arrived to Rio an hour later the Uber worked fine.

The other interesting thing that none of us damn foreigners could ever be aware of is that apparently in Sao Paulo you can't withdraw more than $R500 on Sundays. After striking out with Uber I tried to get my usual $R1,000 out of the ATM and three times got 'operation canceled, service unavailable'. The hotel receptionist then told me that apparently there is a law in Sao Paulo that prohibits banks from dispensing more than $R500 on Sundays. Something to keep in mind to prevent yourself from feeling anxious like I did.

Thanks for the report. It's always good to have a recap of top venues.

Granted there is a lot wanting on how this site is organized, but keep in mind it's a global site mostly organized by geography. A city or country specific sex site might have one thread called Scandallo where one can easily drill down on everything Scandallo.

There's no reason to get all salty about the responses you received. All the advice you have been given regarding reports of distinction, the advanced search feature, et cetera is often given to newbies. In fact, there might not be a venue that gets written up here as much as Scandallo.

As far as Sperto and others, they can be a bit impatient. However, we all get messaged regularly by others asking questions like where and how to get civilian girls. I just tell them if you don't have "game" back home don't bother. And it still takes work so you might be going home alone.

[WyattEarp]

One thing I learned from Scandallo is that the hottest 10 girls will get bar fined. If you're not quick you will definitely not see them again the rest of the night. I have gone home empty handed no session because I was too slow to get what I wanted thinking there would be hotter girls or equally hot to choose from.

This is true of almost every freelance club in the world. The crème de la crème either get picked-off immediately or have steady "dates" they can rely on.

I think I have only hooked up with two freelance rock stars in my travels. One was just shear luck striking early and agreeing to the higher price. It worked out because we hit it off, stayed overnight and she became my tour guide the next two days (at her rate).

The other was arranged by a Brazilian friend who basically said you have to agree to take her sight unseen. I was glad I did. Later, I would catch glimpses of her at the club as she was always in male company.

[WyattEarp]

Come on yo! It it would be $370 US we'd be talking monthly allowance.

My bad. I see the ISG auto-correct changed your are to are. They should just turn it off. It causes more mistakes than it solves.

[WyattEarp]

Come on yo! It it would be $370 US we'd be talking monthly allowance.

The Brazilian convention is are $. It helps greatly to use are $ or even are.

He wasn't the only one confused. There a few guys who like to throw money around when they meet a hot Brazilian chick.

[Captain Solo]

WorkdTravel69.

There are not many posts in the Argentina thread. With the peso collapse to 1:400 in the black market, are there advantages for visitors? I am tempted to make a trip.

Your BS As map show a lot more privados and SWs than I remember. I save the map, gracias, but are there ways to know what kinds of girls work in which privados, which one have hot girls vs the older, chunky women I found in most privados?

SWs seem to hang out on a couple streets South of Plaza San Martin. Are girls hot young slim? What are their rates? Do they go to nearby hotels for business, or you have to take them to your hotel?.

I assume the escort sites are going strong. I booked a few very nice, hot girls from those sites.

Found some very nice hot young girls at then bar Envidia on Rividia. I heard it's closed. Are there any bar like Envidia anywhere? Tourists reported lots of girls in bars around Recoleta but not sure they will do sex.

[Nordico]

Few more things that happened to me in two days I spend in Sao Paulo. Next day I discovered that my Uber no longer summons rides. It was towards the evening, but I was really in the middle of some park dressed in summer clothes. What happened was when I clicked on Confirm ride it went to the Uber map with blue dot showing my location but that's that. It would show Uber cars passing by me, but nothing was being done about my request. Anybody experienced anything like this? Never happened to me before. I messaged Uber but still had to take a taxi to the airport. When I arrived to Rio an hour later the Uber worked fine.

At least on Monday the Uber drivers were on strike.

[Turgid]

One thing I learned from Scandallo is that the hottest 10 girls will get bar fined. If you're not quick you will definitely not see them again the rest of the night. I have gone home empty handed no session because I was too slow to get what I wanted thinking there would be hotter girls or equally hot to choose from.

You actually walked out of Scandallo with full balls and empty arms? How is that even possible from what I've heard about the club?

[Tefnx]

Saturday night I finally made it to the famed Scandalo. This is my take. I'm a total newbie in terms of clubs (have other interests too believe it or not). I spend enough time in Rio and haven't even been to 4*4. This message is primarily meant for newbies like me that don't want to read pages and pages of War and Peace and comments that follow them. I really don't care what the old timers think about me rehashing what they already know for the 500th time. Don't want to read it skip to the next post or go back to your RODs. Am I pissed a bit at the attitude I've seen here so far here? You figure that out.

I liked Scandalo. It definitely didn't live up to the hype, and subsequently my expectations but it's a good place. A lot of good-looking women of all ethno-racial diversity available in Brazil. Surprisingly a sufficient number of those that I consider to be on the ugly side too. Many of them however I saw being occupied by guys like me so tastes differ I guess, often in extreme.

Most of women hang around at the bar in the main room expectantly looking out towards the tables most of which seemed to be occupied by the bored single men having a drink. It takes whopping are $500 to enter the place but from what I understand it's less before 7 pm. Out of this 500 you can spend 300 on food and drink. The restaurant is the first room you'd see. The dinning hall looked nice and pretty quite. The aforementioned blonde and I finished our attempt at the world record in making out and grouping over nice order of fried calamari and highly fresh sushi. There is some great food at Scandalo no doubt.

One of the questions I was going ask on the forum but didn't get a chance since I was getting such a strong push back from the old timers was how hard do they crank up their AC. Not that hard.

T-shirts are fine imo. No reason to do like I did and bring along a sweater or a jacket that you may forget on the way out.

Instead of sitting down I decided to do what many girls do and stroll around the premises. Got some looks as I passed but than some hot looking blonde smile gently, I smiled back, and she quickly put her hand on my shoulder. I liked the touch. It was gentle, not overly insistent, and promised high level of good energy exchange. What happened then you can read in the cited post.

Couple of things to keep in mind: girls don't get commission for you getting them food or drink. I was watching her as we were ordering. She gave nothing to the waiter who didn't appear to even know her name. According to the blonde, each of them pays are $300 entrance fee each day they come to Scandalo and that's that. The money that you negotiate with her she says she doesn't share with the house. You just pay house for the room. I think there is also an exit fee for taking them out of Scandalo. That being said the girl can leave at any point, and if she really likes you you can just agree to meet somewhere else and skip the exit fee.

Few more things that happened to me in two days I spend in Sao Paulo. Next day I discovered that my Uber no longer summons rides. It was towards the evening, but I was really in the middle of some park dressed in summer clothes. What happened was when I clicked on Confirm ride it went to the Uber map with blue dot showing my location but that's that. It would show Uber cars passing by me, but nothing was being done about my request. Anybody experienced anything like this? Never happened to me before. I messaged Uber but still had to take a taxi to the airport. When I arrived to Rio an hour later the Uber worked fine.

The other interesting thing that none of us damn foreigners could ever be aware of is that apparently in Sao Paulo you can't withdraw more than $R500 on Sundays. After striking out with Uber I tried to get my usual $R1,000 out of the ATM and three times got 'operation canceled, service unavailable'. The hotel receptionist then told me that apparently there is a law in Sao Paulo that prohibits banks from dispensing more than $R500 on Sundays. Something to keep in mind to prevent yourself from feeling anxious like I did.

Surprised receptionist didn't know but there's a $R500 limit after 10 pm.

[The Cane]

This is my take. I'm a total newbie in terms of clubs (have other interests too believe it or not). I spend enough time in Rio and haven't even been to 4*4. This message is primarily meant for newbies like me that don't want to read pages and pages of War and Peace and comments that follow them. I really don't care what the old timers think about me rehashing what they already know for the 500th time. Don't want to read it skip to the next post or go back to your RODs. Am I pissed a bit at the attitude I've seen here so far here? You figure that out.

Let's keep this straight. Nobody cares if you choose to spend your time rehashing stuff for even the 1,000th time. Just don't expect us to do that. And I agree about "War & Peace". After all, as I've said before, this isn't a literary society. It's about sex for money (the world's greatest aphrodisiac).

[Maelstrom]

Hi Sato San! Thanks for the quote. Yeah, there is an update on the south american scene since pandemic ended. Hope I will get a taste of Medellin in few months. But now let's tell the guys about nights that went definitely bad in Scandallo. Otherwise it will sound I'm a promoter of the club.

From the 5 times I went during the past three weeks, 2 were simply outstanding, one was normal, and two went bad. And this goes for those who want to take a whole trip from the other side of the world to Sao Paulo for one weekend or few days only just to hit Scandallo.

It was a Thursday night and I had the moods to go to Scandallo, not knowing there was going to be a semi-famous local Sertanejo star and her band. I like the music. When I arrived around midnight it was crowded, music super loud, there were nice girls singing the bands song in tables with locals, lots of brazilians and the ratio men-women was 2-1 or even 3-1. So it was going to be a very hard night to make a nice pick.

Around 2 am I only talked to a pair of girls I didn't like. Not even to share a drink or dinner. At 2:15 am when the show was over, I saw an incredible fitness brunette that was with a group of girls, she looked stunning, beautiful face, and healthy athlete wearing yoga pants a top and high heels that fit her perfect, so I immediately went to her and guess what.

She rejected me!!

She said "I'm to leave with that guy" (vou sair com o cara). Man. She was crazy hot!! And the guy was strong young brazilian, so nothing to negotiate with the stunner.

3 am I left the place with no score and a R600 spend for the night (uber and entrance, I could not consume all my R300). No problems at all, shit happens.

But I can't imagine the frustration that would feel a man that makes a whole flight with all the costs involved just to arrive to Scandallo at a local show night band!

So be ready for bad nights as well. Feel free to drop me a pm for more specific info.

One thing I learned from Scandallo is that the hottest 10 girls will get bar fined. If you're not quick you will definitely not see them again the rest of the night. I have gone home empty handed no session because I was too slow to get what I wanted thinking there would be hotter girls or equally hot to choose from.