Sao Paulo Reports

[Steve 9696]

I would tend to agree with that take, but ultimat

Mr. V, Steve talked about enjoying and wanting the paid illusion of dating a pro (short-term) as if she were a girlfriend. I suspect, due to the fact, GFE sex (with whom you have a connection), is ultimately the best sex for him (and perhaps for modicum of us).

From the questions you pose, it sounds like you've taken sim dates with Pros? If so, isn't this then the very same thing as Steve's dating his Brazilian PROs/semi-Pro's in London...

Def the GFE sex is great and the connection helps. But for me it's more than that. I LOVE the non-bedroom time with a 23 year old girl experiencing new things. For Thifany, her first international trip, eating seafood tapas at a high end restaurant on her birthday. (her passport doesn't lie). Dancing till 3 AM with the hottest girl in the club.

Or Alexa. Pedicab ride by the ocean at night drinking wine from the bottle and smoking cigars. Or her first time ever swimming in the ocean. (!) She'd get knocked down by breakers and come up laughing her ass off.

Seriously, am I the only guy that likes hanging with 23 year old hotties 24x7? Cuz damn I do adore it!

(Thifany was a lucky Boate find (Fazendinha, in Campinas but shes from Rio) but mostly Seeking Arrangement rules for this kinda thing).

[Spidy]

The point is not that spending any particular amount is wrong, but that it does not always equate to good sex or better sex.

I would tend to agree with that take, but ultimately it will always be a very "subjective" and depends on your predilection to your individual preferences, and what you consider "better sex". For some it's anal, for others it's BBFS, for some PSE, yet others prefer "safe" covered sex with the most "attractive" GDP, they can find...etc

However, when an agreed up price has been established and the mood takes me, I've often found a further "incentivized" GDP Brasileira, will typically produce better sex.

... those who pay for sex and say goodbye at the end of an hour. And those that love having a paid girlfriend. I am the latter. I want the dinners. I want the dancing and sleep overs. But I'm not fool enough to think a 23 year old 9 is hanging with me because my fifty-something-ness is flat out awesome. I pay for the illusion and I enjoy it.

Mr. V, Steve talked about enjoying and wanting the paid illusion of dating a pro (short-term) as if she were a girlfriend. I suspect, due to the fact, GFE sex (with whom you have a connection), is ultimately the best sex for him (and perhaps for modicum of us).

How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.

From the questions you pose, it sounds like you've taken similar dates with Pros? If so, isn't this then the very same thing as Steve's dating his Brazilian PROs/semi-Pro's in London (albeit on a different scale)?

Now let me qualify this, as you did say (in the Rio thread):

The point of this missive is that Mr. E was spot on right, stop trying to find a meaningful relationship with hookers. Or ex hookers.

Now, once again, I think, "meaningful" is one of those things that is very subjective and scalable.

So, on the one hand, the dating and/or a short-term relationship with a Pro/Semi-Pro, has to be "meaningful", on some minor level or else why bother to take them anywhere, let alone Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail or Petropolis. And on the other end of the scale, there is traditional usage of "meaningful", as in the pursuit of a LTR, significant other, marriage and / or kids. As I'm sure, there is a whole lot of "meaningful", somewhere in between too.

Just saying, something to think about either way, when applying "meaningful" with dating/relationships.

[EverythingBlue]

Spain has been one of my favorite destinations in Europe for a long time, and not just for the mongering either. But plentiful mongering options it does have! Following is a link to the reports I did for my last trip, which included some time along the Costa del Sol (includes Malaga). The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s") and Estark 92 (link includes a CDS-focused report covering both clubs). There's no such thing as a Scandallo Sao Paulo "equivalent". Or if there is, I haven't found it yet. I would say the closest I have personally experienced is Globe Zurich (which really is not an apples to apples comparison). But of course, there are many other options out there around the world offering a good time for the adventurous monger. If you're serious about Malaga and the CDS, then you should be reading and asking questions in the appropriate Spanish threads. This will give you a head start: http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2170210.

Just want to say thanks for the link. I'm in the process of deciding if I should go to Brazil or Spain for my first mongering / tourist trip. I'm a complete newbie, and have been reading the Rio & Sao Paulo Reports a lot lately. I speak no Portuguese, but fluent in Spanish, and I plan on going solo. All the info I've found here has been very helpful. The reports by SK have been great to read as well. I've seen a Bubba Boy report mentioned a lot, but I noticed its dated from 2012 so I'm guessing it might be outdated, but still worth a read? Anyhow, I'll continue RTFF. But if anyone wants to throw me a bone I'll appreciate any and all feedback!

[Steve 9696]

Spain has been one of my favorite destinations in Europe for a long time, and not just for the mongering either. But plentiful mongering options it does have! Following is a link to the reports I did for my last trip, which included some time along the Costa del Sol (includes Malaga). The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s") and Estark 92 (link includes a CDS-focused report covering both clubs). There's no such thing as a Scandallo Sao Paulo "equivalent". Or if there is, I haven't found it yet. I would say the closest I have personally experienced is Globe Zurich (which really is not an apples to apples comparison). But of course, there are many other options out there around the world offering a good time for the adventurous monger. If you're serious about Malaga and the CDS, then you should be reading and asking questions in the appropriate Spanish threads. This will give you a head start: http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2170210.

Yes already talking to PAyforit, the resident expert, in the CDS thread. Just wanted some other perspective from the rest of this learned crew. I both love and hate Globe. I love it for slim girls with guaranteed amazing service (Kate, Tina, Simina I'm looking st you!) but I feel like you absolutely have to chase the girls and "qualify" to be done as they are so busy. Not really complaining don't enjoy being hounded by 5/6's at Sharks on the other end.

HarvestBoi I agree Aphrodisia is a once in a lifetime experience and I LOVED it. But with two samples I found the service a bit lackluster on the BBBJ for $280/ half or $380/45 which is just heartstopping for fully legal pussy. Still glad I did it.

Germany just opened to US so if FKKs open that might be my first stop. Thanks again. That link is sure a treasure trove and u know I love this shit!

[Steve 9696]

Was very lackluster. Upon advice of a fellow ISG, went to check out Tangara. Waited an HR, but found nothing good.

Food

Coffee at "The Coffee" every day. Dinner at Komei https://www.komeirestaurante.com/menus. Japanese curry (Kare) and katsu with dumplings with a kirin beer. Total was about R70. It was ok. Good.

Laundry

The morning was spent doing laundry at "Lavanderia 60 Minutos", just a few blocks away from the hotel. R30 for wash (R15) and dry (R15) with detergent and softener automatically dispensed. But the bad thing about this place is that you need a CPF number to register for their website in order to access their WiFi. There was a guy cleaning the place, so I asked for his help, but he couldn't do anything about it. There was another guy waiting for his laundry. He saw that I couldn't get access and was gracious enough to share his wifi account. I swear, I love Brazilians! Everywhere I go, people offer to help me unsolicited. He even gave me his account in case I visited the lavanderia again.

Clinicas

Today was just shit luck. Went to Tangara and wasted too much time there. Then spent too much time wandering around in and eating in Liberdade. It was nice to just look around. But I don't think there are touristy destinations in the Sao Paulo main city area.

By the time I got to Prime, it was already 6 PM and I think most of the girls left. I asked for Alicee, receptionist lady told me to wait in the room. After 30 minutes, nobody came up. I thought she was finishing up with a customer and coming in. I got dressed again and went down. She misunderstood me, thought I said Lisa, not Alicee. So no sex today.

I was thinking about going to Connections with another ISGer. He went, but I was a bit disillusioned from the last visit with what I thought was a bad selection. It wasn't just that the girls weren't very attractive. Their personalities weren't great. Maybe due to our communication barrier. But it would be super obvious they're just trying to get me upstairs. Not much song and dance. They'd sit, ask if I want to go upstairs. Sometimes, make out, too. For the most part, I didn't find it appealing because I could do much prettier girls in the clinicas for much less.

By the time my ISG buddy texted me, it was already 12 AM and I needed to check out the next day, so I called it a night. Glad I did because the hotel wouldn't offer late checkout. Looks like they're almost completely booked. Glad to see they're doing well.

Responses

Thanks for the responses about my concerns RE: the prices I paid. Part of my reservation about listing the prices I paid for top tier Connections girl (Maria) was due to prior experience in the Vietnam forum where people get upset over how much I paid. Something along the lines of "Why ask for help and info if you're going to go and pay the inflated prices?" It sounds like this forum is a little less toxic. I have no regrets on paying Maria what I did. I would probably do it again. I felt a little bit of magic that I haven't experienced in a while. As you suspected, Natty, it was 700 =) and worth every real.

One goal of visiting Brazil is (other than getting laid) is to see how sustainable hobbying is here. I plan on retiring within a year. So keeping to a certain budget was important to me. And it has been paradise, to be able to do a different, beautiful girl almost every day for about 300 US a week. I could definitely imagine spending a good amount of the year here (probably during their winters).

Damn no shame at all to do takeout w a hottie like Maria at 700. That's actually a pretty fair price. Stop sweating the pennies — you going to kick urself when you get back stateside (or wherever) and you didn't spend every waking minute drinking and dancing and DFKing and fucking. Rock on sir!

[SinfullyKorean]

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[SinfullyKorean]

Was very lackluster. Upon advice of a fellow ISG, went to check out Tangara. Waited an HR, but found nothing good.

Food

Coffee at "The Coffee" every day. Dinner at Komei https://www.komeirestaurante.com/menus. Japanese curry (Kare) and katsu with dumplings with a kirin beer. Total was about R70. It was ok. Good.

Laundry

The morning was spent doing laundry at "Lavanderia 60 Minutos", just a few blocks away from the hotel. R30 for wash (R15) and dry (R15) with detergent and softener automatically dispensed. But the bad thing about this place is that you need a CPF number to register for their website in order to access their WiFi. There was a guy cleaning the place, so I asked for his help, but he couldn't do anything about it. There was another guy waiting for his laundry. He saw that I couldn't get access and was gracious enough to share his wifi account. I swear, I love Brazilians! Everywhere I go, people offer to help me unsolicited. He even gave me his account in case I visited the lavanderia again.

Clinicas

Today was just shit luck. Went to Tangara and wasted too much time there. Then spent too much time wandering around in and eating in Liberdade. It was nice to just look around. But I don't think there are touristy destinations in the Sao Paulo main city area.

By the time I got to Prime, it was already 6 PM and I think most of the girls left. I asked for Alicee, receptionist lady told me to wait in the room. After 30 minutes, nobody came up. I thought she was finishing up with a customer and coming in. I got dressed again and went down. She misunderstood me, thought I said Lisa, not Alicee. So no sex today.

I was thinking about going to Connections with another ISGer. He went, but I was a bit disillusioned from the last visit with what I thought was a bad selection. It wasn't just that the girls weren't very attractive. Their personalities weren't great. Maybe due to our communication barrier. But it would be super obvious they're just trying to get me upstairs. Not much song and dance. They'd sit, ask if I want to go upstairs. Sometimes, make out, too. For the most part, I didn't find it appealing because I could do much prettier girls in the clinicas for much less.

By the time my ISG buddy texted me, it was already 12 AM and I needed to check out the next day, so I called it a night. Glad I did because the hotel wouldn't offer late checkout. Looks like they're almost completely booked. Glad to see they're doing well.

Responses

Thanks for the responses about my concerns RE: the prices I paid. Part of my reservation about listing the prices I paid for top tier Connections girl (Maria) was due to prior experience in the Vietnam forum where people get upset over how much I paid. Something along the lines of "Why ask for help and info if you're going to go and pay the inflated prices?" It sounds like this forum is a little less toxic. I have no regrets on paying Maria what I did. I would probably do it again. I felt a little bit of magic that I haven't experienced in a while. As you suspected, Natty, it was 700 =) and worth every real.

One goal of visiting Brazil is (other than getting laid) is to see how sustainable hobbying is here. I plan on retiring within a year. So keeping to a certain budget was important to me. And it has been paradise, to be able to do a different, beautiful girl almost every day for about 300 US a week. I could definitely imagine spending a good amount of the year here (probably during their winters).

[The Cane]

How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.

There was a blonde hottie at Termas 65 who was interested in going to Buzios with me, and she was the one who brought it up. That's not the way I like to play the game, at least not in the past anway, so I really didn't have any interest. The answer to your question from me would be zero, but that's OK. Not what I wanted to do anyway, but maybe some other time. We shall see!

[The Cane]

The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s").

I meant one "l" for Malaga's "Scandalo" versus two for Sampa's "Scandallo".

[Vagabundo1]

The point is not that spending any particular amount is wrong, but that it does not always equate to good sex or better sex.

See the bubba boy report, search for good sex, search for mini relationships.

How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.

I concur with the sentiments mentioned. You earned your money, you spend your money how you please. Life is too short. Do what and how you like and enjoy yourself.

[The Cane]

I must confess that when I feel that I've spent too much I tend to be a little worried, however, I'm totally envious of you guys who spend what you want and let others do the worrying for you, LOL.

If I'm worried that I spent too much that's one thing. But if somebody else is worried that I spent too much, well that's quite another LOL! We all have spending limits and budgets we need to keep in mind. It's just that once I've set mine according to my own personal requirements, I don't care what somebody else thinks about that. From the very first moment that I took on this hobby, I have 100% lived by the following. Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid!

[Turgid]

I concur with the sentiments mentioned. You earned your money, you spend your money how you please. Life is too short. Do what and how you like and enjoy yourself.

I must confess that when I feel that I've spent too much I tend to be a little worried, however, I'm totally envious of you guys who spend what you want and let others do the worrying for you, LOL.

[The Cane]

Knowing that Scandallo in SP is my fave destination. Anyone have any comparison to Scandalo in Malaga? Or other European venues? I think Europe will be my first post Covid stop. And of course Frankfurt Sharks and Zurich Globe are obvious choices. But wondering if any ofbubhave other suggestions. Knowing that Scandallo SP is my worldwide fave venue.

Spain has been one of my favorite destinations in Europe for a long time, and not just for the mongering either. But plentiful mongering options it does have! Following is a link to the reports I did for my last trip, which included some time along the Costa del Sol (includes Malaga). The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s") and Estark 92 (link includes a CDS-focused report covering both clubs). There's no such thing as a Scandallo Sao Paulo "equivalent". Or if there is, I haven't found it yet. I would say the closest I have personally experienced is Globe Zurich (which really is not an apples to apples comparison). But of course, there are many other options out there around the world offering a good time for the adventurous monger. If you're serious about Malaga and the CDS, then you should be reading and asking questions in the appropriate Spanish threads. This will give you a head start: http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2170210.

[The Critic]

Food
Dona Firmina Pizzeria http://donafirminapizzaria.com.br/#section-menu - Pizza was excellent. I got a half and half. And they charged half and half of each pizza. LOL. The dough was cooked perfectly. The cheese was very good. I had a difficult time ordering because I didn't understand the menu. Used Google translate (live image translation) to translate the menu, but even that wasn't 100% accurate. The small (broto) was really big for one person. Plus two beers cost me R96.

I for one appreciate when a member(s) posts Food & Restaurant recommendations. Good food makes for good mongering! Please continue with your good reports.

[The Critic]

disclaimerI say "pro tip", but I by no means suggest that I'm a pro. LOL.

SK, up to now I have been enjoying your reports.
IMHO. This is what punting is all about. Having a great time with sexy girls, not figuring out how little you can get way with spending or pleasing the critics. Do whatever you like and whatever you can afford. Nothing else matters.

Somebody doesn't like what I pay and think I paid too much and I'm ruining it for them? Well you know what? Then just fuck less then LOLOLOL! It's my money, and I'll spend it (or not) how I darn well please!

I concur with the sentiments mentioned. You earned your money, you spend your money how you please. Life is too short. Do what and how you like and enjoy yourself.