Sao Paulo Reports

[The Cane]

Just a personal plea. The German FKK thread was absolutely ruined by becoming the Covid 19 bickering thread. Let's not ruin So Paulo too! How about we talk about girls and sex?

Wanting to talk about girls and sex without wanting to talk about how this pandemic is impacting the "hobby" is not wanting to deal with reality. Especially with Brazil having moved into the number three position in the world with confirmed infections (heard it on the news this morning). Bolsonaro is an idiot! And the medical infrastructure in Sao Paulo is reported to be near collapse. Maybe time for a separate thread to discuss if that's what some people here want. Because it is absolutely relevant to what we all like to do. Travel internationally to fuck hot girls! Can we get there? Can we get in? If yes, then what will it look like, and what's going to happen? What will we have to do, and will it be safe? People want to talk about these topics, and quite legitimately so. We can't act like the mongering side of our lives isn't being greatly impacted by this virus and just ignore it, and expect people here not to talk about this extraordinary time in world history.

[John Clayton]

...Secondly the concept of herd immunity is futile without a proper vaccine or a drug to stop the spread...

You're mixing up two separate things.

[Balboa]

There is enough substantial infection rates in US and other top 7 infected counties, firstly. Please read news updates to get the numbers. Secondly the concept of herd immunity is futile without a proper vaccine or a drug to stop the spread. Third looking at the economic conditions of many countries and the extra burden on healthcare facilities, I hardly think people would be willing to sacrifice themselves and get infected willingly without having a guarantee to their lives. If this was not a human to human infectious disease which spreads much faster than any other which we have known in the last 100 years, I would have thought for a second about herd immunity, but not anymore.

Attention: International SEX guide.

[Radar99]

So, all of your arguments against her immunity are based on a situation with no substantial infection rate. So. There is NO herd immunity in place to study on this to begin with, so therefore herd immunity doesn't work.

I get that right?

"People used to say the same thing about herd immunity in US and UK".

We still do, where it's relevant.

There is enough substantial infection rates in US and other top 7 infected counties, firstly. Please read news updates to get the numbers. Secondly the concept of herd immunity is futile without a proper vaccine or a drug to stop the spread. Third looking at the economic conditions of many countries and the extra burden on healthcare facilities, I hardly think people would be willing to sacrifice themselves and get infected willingly without having a guarantee to their lives. If this was not a human to human infectious disease which spreads much faster than any other which we have known in the last 100 years, I would have thought for a second about herd immunity, but not anymore.

[Balboa]

Just a personal plea. The German FKK thread was absolutely ruined by becoming the Covid 19 bickering thread. Let's not ruin So Paulo too! How about we talk about girls and sex?

I agree. Let's not make this the bickering thread. Por favor!

[Steve 9696]

Just a personal plea. The German FKK thread was absolutely ruined by becoming the Covid 19 bickering thread. Let's not ruin São Paulo too! How about we talk about girls and sex?

[SpeedToys]

People used to say the same thing about herd immunity in US and UK, and the situation is right in front of our eyes. And on top of that there is very little or no knowledge about how this virus behaves till now. It's not a typical virus which spreads like HIV or SARs. Herd immunity concept won't work as we have seen cases where even younger people are succumbing to this shit. And to be very frank, you can't have a case where you are going for herd immunity without flooding hospital, that's impossible.

So, all of your arguments against her immunity are based on a situation with no substantial infection rate. So. There is NO herd immunity in place to study on this to begin with, so therefore herd immunity doesn't work.

I get that right?

"People used to say the same thing about herd immunity in US and UK".

We still do, where it's relevant.

[SpeedToys]

Many people would probably agree with your statement. As far as I am concerned, "nobody" = Media.

Blaming media for your fellow mans ignorance, is dangerous.

Media isn't the problem. Its the solution ignorant people want.

[Hobbying]

Does it matter?

Everyone is going to get it in time, you die or you won't.

IMHO, finding the -fastest- way to herd immunity without flooding over the hospitals is the best course, but nobody will talk about it.

Odds are against a vaccine, we've had a century to figure out the Spanish Flu. We haven't. This is the nature of things.

Natural selection survival of the fittest you mean. Unfortunately, healthy young people get seriously sick also. Herd immunity depends on the composition of the population and controlling infection to only certain populations. In the end, no one wants to be infected intentionally.

The major problem with the covid vaccine is that there are no long term testing done, like 10 years worth so who knows how good / bad it is. Either way, I'll get it and see what happens.

[Hobbying]

Antibody development can't be seen as a perfect cure for this shit. Immunity depends on various other factors too.

You're right, antibody convalescent plasma therapy infusion from recovered patients is not 100% cure.

[Mangera]

Does it matter?

Everyone is going to get it in time, you die or you won't.

IMHO, finding the -fastest- way to herd immunity without flooding over the hospitals is the best course, but nobody will talk about it.

Odds are against a vaccine, we've had a century to figure out the Spanish Flu. We haven't. This is the nature of things.

Many people would probably agree with your statement. As far as I am concerned, "nobody" = Media.

[Radar99]

The health minister on the job for 1 month resigned today. They will open Brasil again because they cannot afford not to for foreigners but who will be willing to go?

Even if someone has antibodies, there's no guarantee the person is immune.

Antibody development can't be seen as a perfect cure for this shit. Immunity depends on various other factors too.

[Radar99]

Does it matter?

Everyone is going to get it in time, you die or you won't.

IMHO, finding the -fastest- way to herd immunity without flooding over the hospitals is the best course, but nobody will talk about it.

Odds are against a vaccine, we've had a century to figure out the Spanish Flu. We haven't. This is the nature of things.

People used to say the same thing about herd immunity in US and UK, and the situation is right in front of our eyes. And on top of that there is very little or no knowledge about how this virus behaves till now. It's not a typical virus which spreads like HIV or SARs. Herd immunity concept won't work as we have seen cases where even younger people are succumbing to this shit. And to be very frank, you can't have a case where you are going for herd immunity without flooding hospital, that's impossible.

[SpeedToys]

I guess it's too early to even guess if that will happen. We have to wait and watch as the cases are still increasing day by day and people say it's going to become the next hotspot.

Does it matter?

Everyone is going to get it in time, you die or you won't.

IMHO, finding the -fastest- way to herd immunity without flooding over the hospitals is the best course, but nobody will talk about it.

Odds are against a vaccine, we've had a century to figure out the Spanish Flu. We haven't. This is the nature of things.

[Hobbying]

I guess it's too early to even guess if that will happen. We have to wait and watch as the cases are still increasing day by day and people say it's going to become the next hotspot.

The health minister on the job for 1 month resigned today. They will open Brasil again because they cannot afford not to for foreigners but who will be willing to go?

Even if someone has antibodies, there's no guarantee the person is immune.