Sao Paulo Reports

[Balboa]

Haha. Thank you. I guess. But what did you mean about a little effort.

Like maybe read a few reports, LOL.

All your questions would be answered.

[Starlord1]

Despite your really cool handle Starlord, you have to make a little effort. When the new President is elected in October, I will make him/her aware of your arrival.

Haha. Thank you. I guess. But what did you mean about a little effort.

[WyattEarp]

OK guys. I've monger in Curacao, DR and Colombia, I'm going to Brazil on Feb -10th-24th. Will make a stop in Rio and SP. Can someone please please explain the scene out there. Please. This stuff is confusing.

What is a Clinica?

What is a terma?

Where to find a freelancer.

Where to stay so I don't die.

From those other mongering spots. I prefer to bring the women back to my place. I feel more comfortable. How do I go about this in the most efficient and effective way. Please help fellow savages. Its my birthday so I really looking to spend. Also this is for SP. I'm working on Rio.

Despite your really cool handle Starlord, you have to make a little effort. When the new President is elected in October, I will make him/her aware of your arrival.

[Starlord1]

I have to agree. You just can't beat these girls. You just cannot! You mix the races and multiply the average female sex drive times 100! The FKK feels too transactional (I like them too). I love Montreal but unless you attend the parties you are forced to take your pick from a few headless photos and with the exchange rate, pay 3 X the price of Brazil for 1 on 1 and much more than that for a 3-sum.

I have been to the upscale termas in Rio and Joinville and paid a heck of a lot more than the clinicas. The girls in Centaurus aren't as good looking. I want to go to the tourist boates but I can't get past the clinicas. My friend who is an executive for a multi-national recommends Scandallos but even he admits that you will pay 3 x more for women that are 10% better (I am paraphrasing but he said something like this. It is the old marketing rule and he is a marketer.) My best friend's boss who is another Scandellas fan recommended setting me up with one of his apartment girls. They were more than double to price. I said no thanks, I just got back from an apartment girl..

OK guys. I've monger in Curacao, DR and Colombia, I'm going to Brazil on Feb -10th-24th. Will make a stop in Rio and SP. Can someone please please explain the scene out there. Please. This stuff is confusing.

What is a Clinica?

What is a terma?

Where to find a freelancer.

Where to stay so I don't die.

From those other mongering spots. I prefer to bring the women back to my place. I feel more comfortable. How do I go about this in the most efficient and effective way. Please help fellow savages. Its my birthday so I really looking to spend. Also this is for SP. I'm working on Rio.

[Member #4732]

I can't stress enough how people should not become attached to the idea that some clinicas have better lineups, or "types" of girls, than others. The only thing that is stable about the clinicas is the infrastructure. The lineups are always in flux, GPS moving from one casa to another casa. Day to day, week to week. The casas do not choose a particular body type, skin color, hair color, safadeza. These are all myths. There is a thread on gp-guia that shows where all the ex-Brooklin girls are now working. Its a who's who of the other clinicas. Tangara has a pipeline of girls that visit from Curitiba, that is about the only "exception" I can think of in terms of differentiation. Otherwise, the local girls spend a few days, weeks, months at one place, then go to another.

[Steve 9696]

Steve9696, I know you found some winners at other, less expensive boates. I know this next question will generate the usual clinicas versus boates debate. So for us in SP for short visits with limited time, what's your current assessment of the clinica girls versus the boate girls. In the past, I've usually found the boate girls to be more to my liking.

I can't profess to be an expert on Clinica vs Boate as I only did one Clinica (Tangara). My experience was that my Clinica girl was more a standard suck and fuck (and only $30) vs a more girlfriend like experience with the particular Boate girls I chose. And when I say girlfriend experience I don't mean the standard definition of BBBJ and DFK. I mean it FEELS like you are both in it together. Not a customer.

If that appeals, I think the Boate format lends itself to this because of the Club social aspect. I realize in retrospect that I spent a full 2 hours (!) with Karina at Scandallo before even talking about a room. And I was the one that brought it up! We just had a blast flirting and dancing and kissing (light) and doing what you do in a club. So by the time you get to the room there can be serious chemistry already. I think this would be hard to achieve at a Clinica.

[DoMat]

Actually they would like to get rid of the discounts and "punch cards", because with these customers they are not making a lot of money, but they can't. Last time they tried to limit the discounts, they got local mongers against them who threatened to boycott the place.

I don't know the exact amount of money they are paying the girls today and not all the girls are paid the same, but it's around BRL 100/ hour. The guys who post in the local forums pay BRL 140/ hour and every 5th session is free. Even if the customer pays this discounted price, the girl gets the same amount of money she gets from a full paying customer.

With this pricing and the reservation system the best girls are occupied almost all the time and it's almost impossible for a visiting gringo to session with the most popular ones. The full paying customers, local or gringo, should get some benefit when making a reservation, because that's where their money comes from, but of course it's not going to happen.

Understood. Thing is I get the discount every other house but at brooklin. Even got it at brooklin before they changed the rules.

Actually not true. I don't get the sweet discount at Tangara either but that isn't even advertised like Brooklyn does.

[HungryStud101]

I went to Scandalo with another board member last Thursday night....
. Probably a lot of the average chicks would go low, but they are average and no better looking than clinica girls. So if you go to Scandalo be prepared to pay the going rate, or just go to look like we did. Just manage expectations. There was definitely no significant difference in the "average" look between the "current" Scandalo girls and the current clinica and free lance girl. There were just "more' women and the were better dressed, and there is the club atmosphere.

Excellent report and as we discussed before, this is just what I was afraid of. I have been having such luck at Brooklin I see no reason to pay 3 X the money or more and go to a place like this. Although, I love it when girls dress up and that is worth something. Maybe it was just a bad night or is this a trend?

Anyway, I have been in FKK sharks the past two days and although I love it here and I am having a ball I got to say that the girls are no hotter in Sharks than in the Clinicas. Also, the FKK girls tend to be a little more costly when you consider entrance and pricing structures and the Sharks girls are much more likely to upsell.

Live and learn. Thanks for the wise words Rovnak.

[WyattEarp]

Its a fair question and there are others who can answer better than I. When I visited Brazil years ago, I used to pull girls from Bomboa for all nighters but have not done that in a long time. I know some guys that don't post much that like to arrange all nighters, perhaps they can weigh in.

Living here, I have built in advantages and it would not be fair to expect visitors to follow my personal approach. I don't actually like all nights any more, or rather I should say, I don't pay for all nights any more. 2 hours is the sweet spot for me. Not too short, not too long. I see one semi-pro hairdresser about twice a month and she insists on staying over night, but I do not pay an overnight rate. In fact, I would not complain if she left after 2 hours to be honest, but she insists on staying. Occasionally, I will tell other guests, "you are welcome to stay the night but that is as friends, no extra $". Sometimes they do, most times they don't. Most prefer to sleep at home and I totally understand that.

I first came down as a Brazil monger during Rio's hey-day in the late 90's. It was very common for girls in Help, the outside cafes and even termas girls that gave you their number to stay over. In that period, many of the out of town programa girls were holing up with several roommates and had apartments that lacked air conditioning. If you were fun and kind, it was fairly easy to get a girl to come over for the night. I generally bought them drinks, invited them to breakfast, etc. Some times breakfast turned into a sightseeing trip or an afternoon on the beach. I even re-booked some girls the next night. Generally when I was drinking and partying late into the night, I would have one or two SOGs when we got home and then another SOG when we woke up.

This happened in Sao Paulo on occasion as well. Chemistry was a big factor. I never have paid for overnight. It was just what happened. Over the years, I noticed the Brazilian girls, while not exactly clock watchers would get up and leave after a couple hours. There was less and less of that carefree, let's just have fun attitude towards time and programs.

In the later days of Help, I do remember a stunning girl who was milling around the tables at the cafe outside Help while me and the boys were having a late dinner. She said in Portuguese she was from Petropolis and had to have a place to stay that night. I barely understood her, but I agreed very quickly. My boys were not so good with Porto. Lucky me. It was like a Brazilian angel was dropped into my lap. She might have been the hottest Brazilian girl I had ever been with. I couldn't resist fucking her all night, sleeping late with her and fucking her again in the morning. I don't think she told me, but I think she was working at Centaurus that day and the next day. Centaurus was still at the very top back then.

[WyattEarp]

Thanks Rovnak for TOFTT and reporting out. I would summarize by saying Scandallo is about the club not the girl. Girls as pretty or prettier can be found elsewhere at cheaper rates. But it is luxe king of the world type experience if you can comfortably afford it. It's that vibe / rush that is the draw.

Steve9696, I know you found some winners at other, less expensive boates. I know this next question will generate the usual clinicas versus boates debate. So for us in SP for short visits with limited time, what's your current assessment of the clinica girls versus the boate girls. In the past, I've usually found the boate girls to be more to my liking.

[HungryStud101]

I don't know the exact amount of money they are paying the girls today and not all the girls are paid the same, but it's around BRL 100/ hour. The guys who post in the local forums pay BRL 140/ hour and every 5th session is free. Even if the customer pays this discounted price, the girl gets the same amount of money she gets from a full paying customer.

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You have got to be kidding me! That is 30-40 USD for girls I would find in the USA for 300-400 USD and probably more! I say that but the women would not be as good in the USA. More like 40 somethings. I know I am paying 220 R / hour for 2-hand and 320 R / Hour 4-hand massage and I have never left that place complaining.

[Nordico]

Brooklin seems to get a fair bit of likes here for some reason I can't understand.

They have this weird policy now that to start a punch card you have to have joined gpguia before 2017. I mean wtf? They also want the first to to be 220 rs.

It's like they don't want any new regulars.

Actually they would like to get rid of the discounts and "punch cards", because with these customers they are not making a lot of money, but they can't. Last time they tried to limit the discounts, they got local mongers against them who threatened to boycott the place.

I don't know the exact amount of money they are paying the girls today and not all the girls are paid the same, but it's around BRL 100/ hour. The guys who post in the local forums pay BRL 140/ hour and every 5th session is free. Even if the customer pays this discounted price, the girl gets the same amount of money she gets from a full paying customer.

With this pricing and the reservation system the best girls are occupied almost all the time and it's almost impossible for a visiting gringo to session with the most popular ones. The full paying customers, local or gringo, should get some benefit when making a reservation, because that's where their money comes from, but of course it's not going to happen.

[Member #4732]

I have to say I rather like the king of the world experiences now that I reflect on it. Russia is similar. You go to a super luxe strip club and ALL girls are on offer. Not just the strippers but also the waitresses, greeting hostess, bar maids everyone. This has a great king of the world feel because you can literally take any girl in the place. This I think is also the appeal of the lineup they do at Clinicas or other venues. Just being at the buffet is part of the thrill!

My favorite Russia experience of that sort was when I got to bang a very hot probably 35-40 year old Uzbek mamasan from one of the better salons off of Fontanka. Unlike most of the administrators, this one was sweet and flirtatious, a bit heavier in the legs, like Uzbek women tend to be, but petite up top and a very sexy face. I used to go there quite often and she and I would flirt a bit and I would say "I wish you were working" and she would laugh. And finally after a bunch of this, I got her to agree to come see me, for a price naturally. I am telling you, it was one of the best fucks of my life. This woman fucked like she had not had sex in a year, on the bed, on the couch, on the chari, all the while screaming in Russian to wake the neighbors. It was truly remarkable. I still regret that I did not try to see her again after that. Then again, that was so crazy good it was probably best left as a one off experience.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks Rovnak for TOFTT and reporting out. I would summarize by saying Scandallo is about the club not the girl. Girls as pretty or prettier can be found elsewhere at cheaper rates. But it is luxe king of the world type experience if you can comfortably afford it. It's that vibe / rush that is the draw.

I have to say I rather like the king of the world experiences now that I reflect on it. Russia is similar. You go to a super luxe strip club and ALL girls are on offer. Not just the strippers but also the waitresses, greeting hostess, bar maids — everyone. This has a great king of the world feel because you can literally take any girl in the place. This I think is also the appeal of the lineup they do at Clinicas or other venues. Just being at the buffet is part of the thrill!

[Member #4732]

Thanks Rovnak for TOFTT and reporting out. I would summarize by saying Scandallo is about the club not the girl. Girls as pretty or prettier can be found elsewhere at cheaper rates. But it is luxe king of the world type experience if you can comfortably afford it. It's that vibe / rush that is the draw.

Yes true.

I should clarify one thing. I wrote "There was definitely no significant difference in the "average" look between the "current" Scandalo girls and the current clinica and free lance girl. There were just "more' women and the were better dressed, and there is the club atmosphere." I was speaking about averages.

I should have added "and there are some elite stunningly beautiful women at the club, more beautiful than you will find at the clinicas, in general, but these top of the lines chicks are going to charge top $" . So if you are looking for a trophy fuck, strictly based on looks, and price is not an issue, then yes, the club provides that option.