Sao Paulo Reports

[HarvestBoi]

I wouldn't make any presumptions. The elevator incident was a national awakening.

http://media.miamiherald.com/multime...rt3/index.html

Thanks. The whole series is worth reading and that map is killer.

Hb.

[HarvestBoi]

I saw 7 garrotas over my 11 days for a total of 11 encounters.

The bottom line is this. If I had one week left to monger and could only pick one venue it would be Scandallo. If I lived in SP I'the go once a week just to have dinner and scout around.

Things I did before leaving:

Got a visa. Use the vfs. Global website and ignore the other paid sites that come up when you google. Cost is about $40 US and mine took about 5 days from application to when I got the visa via email. It's good for a year.

Registered for Gpguia. I posted about this earlier; my first encounter with the porto alphabet. Gpguia was not as helpful as I expected. It did save me from picking a hot one at Miruna who had bad reviews. And I think it should be somewhat worthwhile for indy escorts although I didn't have time to explore that side of the scene. Even then, I think there are a lot of the ficha rosa wannabe types who don't have reviews. Next time for sure.

Studied a little Portuguese. I did this because Steve96969 insisted and because he's right. Got the Pimsler stuff from the Library so at least I could say "Disculpe eo nao falu porto muito bem, fala ingles o espanol? That and google goes a long way. I found the orthography (how the work is written vs how it sounds) difficult like English or French. I mostly stubbled around and used google and a bit of Spanish but anyone telling you you'll be fine using Spanish is wrong.

Contacted AltoBomGusto. Having a local who can speak both English and Porto and who knows the scene is worth it to me. Plus ABG is a funny and amiable wing man. He has his preferences like everybody but he's tolerant of other points of view. He suggested one day that we grab a couple of clinca girls and make a date for a swingers club. Next time for sure.

Downloaded Uber and WhatAp. I don't use either at home much but they are essential in Brasil.

I went to Tangara, Miruna, Brooklin clinicas and to Bomboa, Scandallo and Chanes for clubs. I think I've reviewed most of the noteworthy encounters earlier but here is the roster:

Mariah at Tangara.

Ana Carolina at Scandallos.

Sara at Scandallos.

Bianca at Brooklin. This was my worst experience. She used a minor blemish I have as an excuse to give bad service. Good looking. Damage was 220 reals and I really should have complained. Rookie mistake.

Babyfat (name is Carine actually) at Scandallos.

Babyfat and Amiga Fest X2.

The scene is so varied and deep that there is sure to be something for every taste. You could stay a month and only scratch the surface. Thanks as always to all who were so generous with their posts, especially Steve9696, Rovnak, Kcrl01, The Cane, Marshal Earp and RIP GhengisKahn who's posts years ago first put it in mind that Sampa was a world class destination.

Some random pictures attached.

[WyattEarp]

That's a pity. Probably due to US influence? At the end of the day, the only adjetives that really matter to me are belleza and safada.

I wouldn't make any presumptions. The elevator incident was a national awakening.

http://media.miamiherald.com/multime...rt3/index.html

[HarvestBoi]

I believe racial identity has become more prominent in Brazil the last several years.

This is just an observation from my experiences in Brazil.

That's a pity. Probably due to US influence? At the end of the day, the only adjetives that really matter to me are belleza and safada.

[WyattEarp]

All these women (who work in both Sao Paulo & Rio) when I asked them what ethnicity they identified with most. They all told me Black.

Interesting discussion. Brazil historically has had an idiosyncratic relationship with race.

Fifteen years ago, I would run into obviously mulata women in Brazil. Some would say they weren't mulata nor would they identify as black. Back then, I have the impression racial identity was not as deeply ingrained. I believe racial identity has become more prominent in Brazil the last several years.

This is just an observation from my experiences in Brazil.

[Kcrl01]

I have a question: When does someone in Brasil go from mulato to negro?

Dude,

All these women (who work in both Sao Paulo & Rio) when I asked them what ethnicity they identified with most. They all told me Black. When asked why, the responses varied: (1) my Black grandparents raised me, (2) my father is a dark skinned Black man, (3) my mother is a dark skinned Black woman, (4) I can always find support for whatever I need within the Black community where I live, (5) a Black family took me in when both my parents died in a car accident, (6) my teachers always told me I was Black (7) don't you think I look Black? & (8) my boyfriend's parents rejected me bcuz they thought I was too dark. Not one told me they were mulata or mixed. So I'm thinking it's mental self perception thing more so than a straight genetic classification thing.

My conclusion: What your eyes are telling you is not necessarily what's happening in what you're looking at's self perception. Or maybe they were just telling the stupid Gringo what they thought he wanted to hear. Considering were both naked and were making small talk before the buzzer sounds and maybe they're hoping that they can get an extra program out of me. I don't know!

Also, from a historical perspective there was a time in Brasilian history when the African enslaved population was in the majority. So the white folk had to step gently at times. Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness," although it takes place in Africa is in actuality a literary adaption of a time in Brazilian history when a slave revolt was so successful, they had their country in Nordeste for over a hundred years. Only after years and years of attempts from the government were they conquered with help from the Dutch & British. Technically, it was a World War in South America against a Black nation.

So in order to answer your question I will need to return to the field in order to gather more data. It's a tough job but someone has to do it!

Cheers.

[HarvestBoi]

As I said I get pussy addled brain easily and when I do, I get sloppy. Don't think I'm condoning this kind of behavior, especially in one of the largest cities in a foreign country, I'm not. But I'm also showing you that not every lapse need be a disaster and that danger isn't lurking everywhere in Brazil either. People are sincere and helpful too.

The girls give me a ride from Lush back to my Airbnb. Kim Kardasian is asking if about tomorrow, but I'm vague. I've already decided that if I'm seeing anyone its babyfat alone. My flight leaves very late tomorrow so maybe I'll hit Tangara and hang out with ABG during the day or have babyfat over to the apartment before I check out or maybe not see anybody.

Now when you check into these love motels, they take your passport when you check in and give it back to you when I check out. I have a passport card I use and leave my actual passport locked in my room. I realize that I left the card in KKs car when she drove me back. I send her a whatsap, she finds it but now I'm on the hook for another dupla with her and babyfat. Expensive mistake. We do negotiate a shorter time (2 hours) and lower rate (800 Reals). The session is a replay of the day before but one advantage is they were more comfortable with a camera so I've got a nice porno to wank away to when I'm stuck in sex prison. But I realize I left the camera at the hotel! I'm a fucking idot. So I uber out to Asturias and ask if they found it. Sure enough they have it returning it in ziplock baggie. By the way I preferred Astrurias to Lush.

[Member #4732]

This gets us off the topic of pussy but I can't resist. One of my fascinations with Brasil is watching colorism in a non-US culture. Yet anybody who thinks that people Black people aren't treated differently in the western world is willfully looking away. I have a question: When does someone in Brasil go from mulato to negro? I bet hair texture is as important as skin tone. From my short time in SP, I thought I saw more mulatas with some African "blood" than I did what we would call Blacks here in the US, where the African phenotype dominates. Could be where I was (rich sampa) but is it also possible that black and white are allowed to fuck more and have kids in Brasil? In the US it's still pretty hard. So I guess it all comes down to pussy in the end LOL.

The racial terms in Brazil are pretty fluid at the moment, as things are probably in transition due to cultural and political forces. We will probably see some terms falling out of favor and others rising depending on which way political correctness and social identity evolve. At this point its not quite clear how things will sort out. From a "census" perspective there are 5 categories: brancos, pretos, amarelos e indígenas and pardos = White, black, yellow (asian), idigenous and mixed.

Pardos which are colloquially subdivided into o mulata (descendentes de brancos e negros), cabocla (descendentes de brancos e ameríndios), cafuza (descendentes de negros e indígenas) ou mestiça (multi-ethnic. But generally used for mixes of asian and something else or indiginous and something else).

But not all of these terms are used equally in common speech. As you can see from the escort sites the most commonly used are branca, morena, negra, mulata, mestica and orientais (I. E. Asian).

Morena is a tricky one as it can either refer to hair color or skin tone or both. Morena clara refers to a brana with black hair. Morena jambo is brown skin, brown hair.

Mulata usually refers to brown / black skin with "straighter" hair and more "european" facial features. But this is a fuzzy thing because of hair straigtening, extensions, mega hair etc.

Negra usually means more "african" phenotype than mulata, but again this is fuzzy and personal.

A lot of this is very fluid. Some people self-identify differently than other people may see them. Some people of color prefer to be called "negro / a" than "mulata" others may prefer "moreno / a". I have had Brasileiras tell me "I am mulata, my brother is negro and my mom is branca, and my father is moreno" or some other combination.

As a non-Brazilian, scarred by the racial terminology wars in the USA I try to be cautious and respectful, so I either avoid using the terms or if I am in doubt I will use "morena" for any non-white situation as that is unlikely to be offensive, since "morena" is a very very broad term. When I say "when I am in doubt, I refer to cases where the person has not already self identified as one or other term. This is not an issue with online free lancers because they self-identify when they choose which category to be listed on the web site. Mulata and negra are more "specific" terms. But for example, I can say "eu adoro a beleza negra", "I like black beauty" without offending anyone (at least no one has claimed to be offended). The difference being that I am referring to the "kind of beauty" without "typing" the person directly.

From what I can gather, "mulata" may be the term that gets used less and less over time in the future as it has some connotations of the miscegination that is associated with the slavery period. But this is just a socialogical speculation on my part, as Brazil is subject to its own internal forces but also influenced by international, particularly American trends. The english word "black" is used in Brasil all the time but not for "people", rather there is "black music" (catchall term for are&be, soul and other american musics) and "black cabelo" (afro or natural hair style).

So its a very subtle issue, which may change by next year LOL. My advice is when in doubt use "morena".

[HarvestBoi]

So my babyfat cutie from Scandallo proposes to have a festa with her and 2 of her friends at Lush Motel. She sends me photos of the friends. They look good. We book it for a 2-6 pm party. I should know better about these things. As Wyatt Earp says, they only rarely meet the expectation of your imagination, but I'the like to have the Brazilian love motel experience and I've been walking around in an erotic haze since my time with Babyfat. This happens when I'm around a girl who really does it for me, turns my brain to mush and I do some stupid things. Also, luxury to me means abundance. I love the feeling just being in the presence abundant hot ass.

After initially asking for a deposit (no babyfat, that isn't going to happen) we settle on 1500 Reals per girl for 4 hours. When I show at Lush, one girl has bailed, so now it's a dupla but the other girl is a statuesque (5'10) 28 year branca with a set of manmades and acres and acres of Brazilian bunda. I mean this girls ass started mid-way up her back and ended just above her knees practically. But firm too. Kim Kardasian is a good look alike but I think the pornstar Kelly Devine is as good a comparison, although this girl is prettier than KD. Get into the room which is quite nice, pool, bed, shower and all. The girls are into drinking beer, which is actually reasonable (9 reals I think) and food and get down to business. I'm already regretting my decision to have a festa. All I really want is to concentrate on babyfat and keep making love to that gorgeous backside and mouth. Kim K is not as compliant nor as good at DFK yet within a few minutes I have them out of their clothes, exploring their asses with my finger and mouth, DT them in various positions etc. KK gets a bit irritated with my attention concentrating on babyfat and she sort of becomes a pain in the ass. Yet as we are cavorting in the pool. There's nothing like burying my face in that ass as she climbs the ladder out of the pool, stopping halfway up to give me good access.

So its 4 hours of teasing, sucking, fingering and fucking (when I can manage it) in all the porno positions. Babyfat is down for almost anything, KK is more reserved and mechanical but at times we are all in the pool together and I'm swept away in an ocean of tits, ass, lips, mouths. Every time I start in on playing with babyfat's little brown asshole she murmurs "sua, sua", "yours, yours".

Expensive but something you got to do at least once. I could probably get pretty close to this at Tangara, for a third the price tho. Anyways on our way out, I they ask about a repeat and I evade because I think I want to just concentrate on babyfat as tomorrow is the last day of my trip and I want to talk babyfat into surrendering totally that sweet brown culo.

Circumstances had other plans however. More in Part 2.

[HarvestBoi]

This gets us off the topic of pussy but I can't resist. One of my fascinations with Brasil is watching colorism in a non-US culture. Yet anybody who thinks that people Black people aren't treated differently in the western world is willfully looking away. I have a question: When does someone in Brasil go from mulato to negro? I bet hair texture is as important as skin tone. From my short time in SP, I thought I saw more mulatas with some African "blood" than I did what we would call Blacks here in the US, where the African phenotype dominates. Could be where I was (rich sampa) but is it also possible that black and white are allowed to fuck more and have kids in Brasil? In the US it's still pretty hard. So I guess it all comes down to pussy in the end LOL.

I made the 5-15% remark in reference to my thinking that the girls don't think I can afford their rates. When they figure out I'm not Brazilian, pardon my pun, the complexion of the situation changes. The self hate remark is a response to my experiences with black bartenders / wait staff / store clerks & cashiers. I've been to restaurants and bars where the (black) wait staff will walk by me without taking my order, often times without even looking in my direction. When I call them over they are surprised that I want a beer or something to eat. Many assumed I'd just come in to use the free wi-fi. This has happened far too often to be coincidence. To quote Malcolm Nance, "coincidence takes a lot of planning. "

While shopping at a local mercado a (black) cashier literally snatched the money from my hand and gave me my change back without even a, "thank you for shopping, come again please. " But then I remembered she was cordial with the white patrons before me. Even had a situation where a (black) cashier short changed me BRL $ 10, when I corrected her math she was surprised that I wasn't Brazilian. My thoughts were she assumed I'd be too stupid to realise that she was short changing me. I don't think she'd of tried that on a white person.

Same mercado different (black) cashier, I was fourth in line with a cart full of groceries. If you've ever been shopping at a super mercado in Brasil, especially Sao Paulo, the line move slower than my grandma Lucy answering the doorbell. So I'm waiting a good 10 minutes, when it's my turn at the register the girl puts up the "fechado" sign and tells me it's time for her break. I'm thinking, "WTF!" So I leave my items in the cart and start to walk out. After getting a few feet away, I'm approached by a big fat (black) security guard (he's a foot taller and a good 150 lbs heavier) who tells me I have to go to another register in order to pay for my items. He adds, I can't leave until I return or pay for the items in my cart (which I'm sure is clearly not store policy because I've seen the employees restocking un-purchased items left at the registers). I tell him to, "kiss my ass," keeping him in my peripheral vision on the left as he follows me out, while I'm fingering the release knob on the folding knife clipped inside my front right blue jean pocket.

FYI: I no longer shop there, I walk the extra 5 minutes to another mercado near my flat.

Use of "nigger" to get over historical past? Please! Black people use the word "nigger" because white people have used it to denigrate us. When a black person uses it it somehow elevates them to a superior position (although, only psychologically) over the other black person he's directing it toward. It's used to minimise and degrade one's humanity. It's a schizophrenic word that when used (by a black person) allows them for that nanosecond to step out of their skin. And for that brief moment in time they are something other than what you've been brainwashed into thinking you are. They are them (white folks). To quote Pogo, "we have seen the enemy and it is us. " Just some run-of-the-mill brainwashing by the massa to divide and conquer.

My dad was in the military, we lived in France, England & Germany before moving to the USA when I was in 8th grade. It amazed me how poorly African-Americans treated each other as compared to my interactions with people of color in Europe in the 60's & early 70's. It reminded me later of that sociological experiment where you gradually increase the number of rats in a cage. At some point when the personal space and food resources begin to diminish. They start eating each other, that my friend is basis for my Brazilian black self hate reference.

Getting sociological / historical advice from Ice-T, now that's funny!

Cheers!

[Balboa]

I'm not exactly sure what happened to the infamous overnighter. In the 2000's, it was still very common. Sometimes the girls would sleep over / fuck you in the morning without whole lot of conversation. Call it a vibe thing that just occurred naturally with club girls or clinica/terma girls that you called after hours. The Brasileiras, while not being clockwatchers, are now more transactional.

I've traveled with buddies and witnessed the preferences. Being tall, blonde, handsome with light eyes made one a golden ticket (no pun) with the working girls. That's just the way it is.

Definitely depends on the girl and where you find them.

I generally stay away from the high (over) priced places and girls.

I've met plenty in both SP and Rio who love the overnight.

The difficult part is getting them to leave.

Same goes for the "transactional" you refer to.

The same high priced / over valued girls will generally be more like that, IMO.

[FRobertson]

Colleagues, I'm going to be in Sao Paulo for the New Year. What would be good places to celebrate? (with access to women, but not the noisy overpriced overcrowded night clubs. I hate those).

Also if anyone is in town I'm happy to meet, chat, and possibly team up for something.

If only my membership gets processed.

[Kcrl01]

So, there is one thing more important and above the money? Race? Does not matter if poor, as long as white? I have not noticed that Brazilian or any other females like poor white dudes. Do you expect that belonging to 5-15% must be an asset to get more attention for the females regardless of the color of the skin as "money talks, bullshit walks"? Self-hate because of they are just black or more with a limited opportunities that this brings along with? Ice-T told me (personally) once that US blacks use a "and" word to get over to their historical past. He did not presumed how long that will take.

Probably lesser time than 13% of the US inhabitants reduce their share of the crimes from 90% of total to 13%.

I made the 5-15% remark in reference to my thinking that the girls don't think I can afford their rates. When they figure out I'm not Brazilian, pardon my pun, the complexion of the situation changes. The self hate remark is a response to my experiences with black bartenders / wait staff / store clerks & cashiers. I've been to restaurants and bars where the (black) wait staff will walk by me without taking my order, often times without even looking in my direction. When I call them over they are surprised that I want a beer or something to eat. Many assumed I'd just come in to use the free wi-fi. This has happened far too often to be coincidence. To quote Malcolm Nance, "coincidence takes a lot of planning. "

While shopping at a local mercado a (black) cashier literally snatched the money from my hand and gave me my change back without even a, "thank you for shopping, come again please. " But then I remembered she was cordial with the white patrons before me. Even had a situation where a (black) cashier short changed me BRL $ 10, when I corrected her math she was surprised that I wasn't Brazilian. My thoughts were she assumed I'd be too stupid to realise that she was short changing me. I don't think she'd of tried that on a white person.

Same mercado different (black) cashier, I was fourth in line with a cart full of groceries. If you've ever been shopping at a super mercado in Brasil, especially Sao Paulo, the line move slower than my grandma Lucy answering the doorbell. So I'm waiting a good 10 minutes, when it's my turn at the register the girl puts up the "fechado" sign and tells me it's time for her break. I'm thinking, "WTF!" So I leave my items in the cart and start to walk out. After getting a few feet away, I'm approached by a big fat (black) security guard (he's a foot taller and a good 150 lbs heavier) who tells me I have to go to another register in order to pay for my items. He adds, I can't leave until I return or pay for the items in my cart (which I'm sure is clearly not store policy because I've seen the employees restocking un-purchased items left at the registers). I tell him to, "kiss my ass," keeping him in my peripheral vision on the left as he follows me out, while I'm fingering the release knob on the folding knife clipped inside my front right blue jean pocket.

FYI: I no longer shop there, I walk the extra 5 minutes to another mercado near my flat.

Use of "nigger" to get over historical past? Please! Black people use the word "nigger" because white people have used it to denigrate us. When a black person uses it it somehow elevates them to a superior position (although, only psychologically) over the other black person he's directing it toward. It's used to minimise and degrade one's humanity. It's a schizophrenic word that when used (by a black person) allows them for that nanosecond to step out of their skin. And for that brief moment in time they are something other than what you've been brainwashed into thinking you are. They are them (white folks). To quote Pogo, "we have seen the enemy and it is us. " Just some run-of-the-mill brainwashing by the massa to divide and conquer.

My dad was in the military, we lived in France, England & Germany before moving to the USA when I was in 8th grade. It amazed me how poorly African-Americans treated each other as compared to my interactions with people of color in Europe in the 60's & early 70's. It reminded me later of that sociological experiment where you gradually increase the number of rats in a cage. At some point when the personal space and food resources begin to diminish. They start eating each other, that my friend is basis for my Brazilian black self hate reference.

Getting sociological / historical advice from Ice-T, now that's funny!

Cheers!

[Member #4587]

So, there is one thing more important and above the money? Race? Does not matter if poor, as long as white? I have not noticed that Brazilian or any other females like poor white dudes. Do you expect that belonging to 5-15% must be an asset to get more attention for the females regardless of the color of the skin as "money talks, bullshit walks"? Self-hate because of they are just black or more with a limited opportunities that this brings along with? Ice Cube told me(personally)once that US blacks use a "n" word to get over to their historical past. He did not presumed how long that will take.

Probably lesser time than 13% of the US inhabitants reduce their share of the crimes from 90% of total to 13%.

Sorry, Ice Cube not Ice-T.

[Steve 9696]

Sao Paulo is better than Rio for mongering.

Kilt Shows.

There were a number of hot girls here. But pressure was on me as I was one of the first guys there early. After rejecting 2 dogs, I chose a short blonde. I booked a longer session with her. And I shouldn't have. Since the club is dark, I didn't see her nasty hairy legs. Also in 3 hours, she only gave me BBBJ once. And the session wasn't that great. She said she was 19. Maybe the inexperience was why she wasn't really that seductive. I wouldn't repeat. Although she did try to rip me off, and the guy at the front of the hotel part did refund me 100 reais after I showed him the google translate where we agreed on the price. It's of course no guarantee, but they do seem more fair towards men in Latin America than in the west. In the west (especially in places where it's illegal), girls will rip guys off and people will defend it, and the girls get away with it scott free.

Abbobora.

Massage parlor in Moema. It's OK. It's probably one of the better MP's there. They definitely had better looking women than any other MP I went to in Brazil. I chose a blonde, short tan girl. The action was good and she was nice. But I didn't like how she just awkwardly stared at me after the first pop. I would say we could've talked, but my Portuguese was a little weak, and she didn't speak English. Nice rooms, but the bed is low.

Cafe Photo.

Lots of hot girls here. Upscale looking place. I was unaware that the girls are not allowed to approach you here. But one approached me anyway and told me of this. Lots of white girls, and blondes. But I didn't like that they weren't allowed to approach, plus they laughed at me so I left.

Bahamas Club.

Went here on the first night. Some girls are hot, but most aren't. Staff is cool and one of the guys speaks English and will show you around. Facilities are top notch as they have a pool table, and a pool. I approached one girl for a game of pool. But she quit after I didn't buy her a drink. If she's going to be that rude, then I don't want her company anyway. At first only the dogs approached me. Not fair. It was like that for about 2 hours. Then finally a young white girl approached me for a session. 1 HR- 400 reais. She had a pretty open menu. But at one point I felt rushed during the session. One thing I hated was during mish, she used her feet to push me away! Strange. I have never had any woman use her feet to push me away during sex. I would've talked to her about it, but my Portuguese wasn't strong enough and I didn't want to use google translate for that. After it was over, we had at least 20 minutes left, but I was so mad about her pushing me away, I just left. I regret not complaining about it before I left. I don't know her name. She was a young, thin white girl with black hair.

I went back again and didn't have a session this time. There was a hot brunette who I tried to make a deal with for a longer session. I was going to take her back to my hotel. But the deal breaker was she would not negotiate at all. I thought this was Brazil? She said 1200 reais. I said 1000. No. Then I said 1100. No. Since she wouldn't budge at all, I gave it a miss. The hot voluptuous blonde was stuck up and made no effort with me. Aside from that only ugly girls wanted me.

Zeus Bar.

Very close to Bahamas club in Moema, and the mall. English speaking host greeted me at the door and showed me the place. Not too many hotties there that night. Initially had my eye on an athletic Latina, but when she saw me, she gave me no play. I ended up doing a 3 some with a mixed Brazilian / Italian and a hot, young, Japanese woman with a nice body. The Italian girl spoke English too so she translated. The Japanese lady was darker and she was way hotter than the Italian / Brazilian girl. I regret not just doing the session with the Japanese girl. Also since I got 2 girls, they charged me double the hotel rate. I mentioned it later to management, and he said to call him. But when I called, there was no answer. So of course most of the action was with the Japanese lady, and it was good with her. But the downside was these girls only offered CBJ, so I skipped it. Also the Italian girl had a bad attitude. She was combative and liked to argue. I think she might ironically hate men a little bit too. I told her I'm from the USA Where this is illegal. And she said "hey maybe I should move there, because I won't have to have sex with the guy". She then bragged about how back in Italy, guys would pay just to talk to her. That trip was a fantasy for me. I'm from somewhere where it's illegal. And it's hard to get girls. That was cold and a little mean, and inconsiderate of her to say that to me. She also said that if you don't buy a drink for a girl, that means you don't appreciate her time. That's not true at all. So hundreds of dollars for just 1 hour isn't appreciative of your time? I hated her after that. She's blonde, spent time in Italy. If you run into this girl, dismiss her or run!

Connection.

This is a cool place. The driveway to their parking lot looks like something futuristic you'd only see in the movies. Big place too. They have a restaurant, 2 stages, and a place where you can gamble and play cards. After I rejected a few unattractive ones, a hot one finally talked to me. She spoke English too. A cute black girl with a nice body. I don't usually go for black girls, but she looked real good. You can tell she goes to the gym. The room is plain looking compared to the rest of the place. The session was good. Afterwards I wanted to see another girl, but to no avail. They didn't seem to want it as much as the first one. Plus 2 of the girls had hairy legs. They charged me 2 entry fees even though they weren't supposed to. I called and the manager said he will give me free entry next time. If I go back. I was actually planning to go back, but it didn't pan out.

Caster Club.

Big club atmosphere. No one here speaks english BTW. For the most part, the girls here don't look too good. I only saw a few I was interested in. And they left before I could talk to them. So I ended up leaving without a session.

With the quality of the mongering scene decreasing drastically in the west over the past 5 years or so, Brazil is probably now one of the better places in the world to do this. Although even there the quality has decreased over the past 10 years. Prices are higher now. Some of the ladies insist that you shower even if you showered before leaving the hotel (they didn't used to do that). And you used to could get overnight sessions for really cheap. 10 years ago, I had 2 or 3 overnight sessions for less than $400 usd. At least in Sao Paulo, it looks like you can't get that anymore. One problem I do have with Brazil is it seems that many of the white Brazilian girls don't approach black guys. Not all. Some of them do. And it's irritating that many black girls constantly approach black guys. People need to get it through their thick heads. Not everyone just wants to date or fuck within racial lines.

What a very odd list. No Scandalo? Bamboa? Casarao? Tangara even? This seems like the laundry list of places never discussed on ISG. If your intent was to TOFTT then thank you! But if your intent was to sample the best on offer then you did pretty much the opposite. Still if that was better than Rio I am glad I skipped Rio!