Sao Paulo Reports

[Axel Heyst]

So, over all, the cost of following all these bad leads is pretty high. Definitely just sitting down in a Gogo Bar drinking beer in Pattaya is much easier. But then again, I find Brazilian girls much more delicious and having no language barrier, I can negotiate my way to something decent and worth repeating much easier.

The only question I have after reading your report is why would you want to waste your time with all this bullshit when there are so many respectable clinicas, great boates, and genuine high class call girl sites in SP?

I am sorry SS, but there is nothing I see of value in your report. I have been to SP 4 times which cumulatively comes to roughly half a year in the city of women, and I was never tempted to follow the path you outlined. Why would look for shit when there is gold all around you?

[Stinky Squid]

Hi fellas. After a disappointing experience in Thailand, I am finally back in Brazil. Arrived in So Paulo. Full of inflated expectations from scavenging the photoacompanhantes, I spent about 2 days to check and double check the scams and frauds. My estimation is that 90% of what appears in the photoacompanhantes is total fraud and bullshit. There are certain addresses that keep appearing, including:

* Avenida Ceci 729, Vila Mariana. Been there before, total disappointment and I walked away, but one user on Twitter reports that he felt threatened by a dude in there, and escaped assault or kidnapping.

* Rua Concelheiro Furtado 745, Liberdade. Everyone reporting disappointment, scam.

* Rua Frana Pinto 601, Vila Mariana. Been there twice now, disappointment every time, but I have some second thoughts.

* Rua Chui 19, Paraiso. The usual fraudulent ads, but there might be potential if they were just honest instead of lying.

These addresses, I think, are what you would call "clinicas", I. E. , they are normal residential houses or (former) small guest houses, with 3 or more rooms per floor, rooms of the size of residential bedrooms, one shared bathroom. They are not cubicle style or massively retrofitted super small rooms.

The problem with those is that they advertise non existing girls (or 10 year old fotos) promising everything under the the sun, and faking that you talk with the girl but you don't really, they have a shared number or whatever they do.

However, it's not all black and white. Just stupid. Once we adjust our expectations and disregard those photos, there could be utility in just visiting these places and ask for whatever available options and pick. Frana Pinto 601 for example, I went there to see a preggy. And while there were two ads for same address (so improbable) there actually was a preggy there, after some waiting she showed up. And while totally not what's in the photos or age promise, wasn't to bad, I would have gone for it, but she was super cold and avoided any contact, that I declined after all this waiting. But, more importantly, while I was waiting I saw at least one girl I would have chosen if I wasn't so focused on the preggy. That other girl seemed young-ish and decent looking and nice to talk to and probably could have been nice to play with.

At Rua Chui 19, Paraiso, I was waiting for one who, who knows if she exists or not. Was greeted by a passable other one, and while waiting in the room in came one super cute (in my view) girl, who I would have taken on the spot, if only she would have been a little warmer. And since these things depend a lot on the chemistry and if she likes us, it was a near-miss.

Yesterday I was in a Clinica "My Lady" way out there in Osasco Butantã, Av. Escola Politecnica 4561. That place was likely fake too, but since I was already on my way exploring, I figured I would check them out. Again, the ads were misleading, I had wanted a dupla, hoping they would be like bi-lesbian things with girls kissing going on, what I got was total disorganization, despite informing of my arrival over an hour and staying in contact, I arrived on time to random scheduled and occupied girls. Only one of my two were available, I decided to go ahead anyway, and when I met her, I was not overwhelmed, but since I decided, I was going to make the best out of it. At 150 reais, what could go wrong. We had to wait for a half hour for a room to be ready. This allowed me to relax on the sofa, had a little small talk, I just had my hand on her. And it felt OK. When we finally got into the room, I gave the receptionist another 150 saying if the other girl was going to be ready soon-ish, she should send her in.

When the two of us started, the girl I was with was actually quite sweet (to my surprise, as our initial waiting time had not been so great). I rate that as 100% better than what I had experienced in Thailand. There was a real little connection going on. She seemed to have been having some fun too. It took me only 30 minutes to finish, which was good. And the nice thing was, the girl just enjoyed hanging out together the rest of the time, no hurry to get out. When we were like 10 min before end of the hour, the other one came in. And I was sort-a spent already, but I liked what I saw, and she seemed nice. So, I think I will go back soon to see her.

What I learned from that is that these houses gather lots of bad experiences because of their lying and the communication and scheduling nightmare, but with expectations adjusted to reality, and ready to explore what's there, it can lead to pleasant encounters.

I will now search for more reports on "clinicas" and try some others.

Then there are the bloody dammed "agncias", those are old hags or guys talking on whatsapp also, of course, fraudulent ads, and when you actually move forward with an encounter, they shuffle to quickly assign you to someone, and she then is not only not the person of the fotos, but also you never talked to her and she doesn't know, much less agree to, what was promised. This scam is so wide spread that you can't really tie it down. These agncia scams fall into two parts: residential flats and motel encounters. Examples of residential flats are:

* Rua Avanhandava 459, Bela Vista.

* Rua Genebra 296, Bela Vista.

But then the motel scams can be anywhere. The one who shows up will probably not have talked to you aside from being probably not quite as described. One example was my last encounter before I left Brazil 8 months ago. The other was on my first day of exploring back here. One told me to meet at.

* Hotel Lido Plaza, with "freelancer" ad.

But me being clever, I said I won't take the room but meet in front. Showed up and immediate disappointment said so and we parted ways. I might have handed her 30 reais for the "Uber" that was really the transport dude. Bullshit.

I was also looking for a dupla in Jardins, Alameda Campinas 675. I had little hope, but kind-a in the mood of exploring and just discarding shit. The two women I met were about 10 years past age of whatever fotos and, stupidly not well kept. Then turned out to be quite "chatas" as we say here, starting with their voices. Voice is a good indicator, therefore, I like it when they give away short voice messages, this allows to assess age. The metallic screechyness and the annoying affectation ("estamos no ceeeentro t? This "t?" with raised voice, is so annoying, and shows a horrible attitude.) You know then you are either talking with a phone operator or an annoying woman.

Another thing to be able to see these scams for what they are is to contact many at once. Then check the replies. When you receive more than one response that is exactly the same, could be an automatic message or just an "Oiii", and if the person is constantly online and responds without even considering your question (I had one responding "Oiii" and "estou disponivel" several times. Then you know this is one of those bloody agencias and you can just forget it.

But even with these freelancers and flat dwellers, there is not all black and white. Sometimes you do have a decent girl show up, but you have to talk first, before agreeing to anything, to re-hash (or hash for the first time for her) what you want. And have no qualms of sending her back.

IMO, punters should make the cost of lying and scamming much higher by sending them back and walking away every time, so these girls stop the lying and stop participating with the scammer dudes. I think there might even be a protection racket going on, where these scammer dudes beat up real freelancers in order to later offer her protection if she participates in the scam op.

Finally, "photos verificadas" on photoacompanhante means nothing.

Higher price is no guarantee of better quality.

Having positive TDs only means something if it is more than one and not something obviously of a scam ring.

So, over all, the cost of following all these bad leads is pretty high. Definitely just sitting down in a Gogo Bar drinking beer in Pattaya is much easier. But then again, I find Brazilian girls much more delicious and having no language barrier, I can negotiate my way to something decent and worth repeating much easier.

[Gabbarsing]

Hey fella,

I will be in SP for few weeks starting January 21st. Would love to tag along with fellow mongers. DM me if want to tag along.

[Frankfurt]

However, I had my first very disappointing experience at Clinica Miruna.

FR -I share your experience. After two sub par experiences at Miruna, I stopped going there. The girl from Paraguay was a gem but lately she has not been there.

I have a thing for tall slim dark haired girls (like some Romanian girls at my nearest FKK). I picked the girl from the line up that matches this description. She was nice and pleasant smiling in the line up but as soon as we were upstairs, she flipped a switch. All business, no attempt to have a conversation despite my attempt with my very limited Portuguese skills. On leaving when the receptionist asked how everything went, I simply signaled 'mais ou menos' with my hand. I don't have the language skill to explain to her when she asked why, paid and left. I later saw this girl at Yankin so either she did get kicked out of Miruna or bouncing around as many clinica girls do. See pic of topless girl.

On another occasion, picked the best looking girl and experience with her was mildly better but nothing to write home about either. See pic girl in red.

I don't plan to return to Miruna the next time I am in SP.

[Turgid]

....Anyway, my basic needs are very simple..... CFS, with girl on top......

I love that position especially where there's a mirror by my feet.

[DreamCarnarvon]

This one is just a bad apple.

I've had similar experiences with girls from photoacompanhantes (where they would have fake pics and would charge up front) but never in a clinica. I see clinicas as places where the basic level of service would be assured.

I can see why people automatically assume every clinica girl will provide basic level of service (in your case BBBJ + CFS) just based on the fact that they work in the clinicas. But as you have learned that is not always the case. The percentage is very low but I have also met clinicas girls who tell me they don't do kissing, don't do BBBJ, don't allow DATY. A percentage of these girls allowed kissing and BBBJ in subsequent sessions. So speaking a bit of Portuguese and sometimes building rapports do help with receiving incredible GFE sessions.

[FRobertson]

Thank you for this report. Did she give you any signs that it would be a subpar session? For example, answering very short or with one word, not being engaged and flirting with you? Also, what is her description? Hair color, body type, tattoos? I'd hate to have a terrible session with "Larissa" who will probably change her name after word gets out that a session with her isn't good.

I thought about it and couldn't find any specific indications. I mean, yes, she wasn't particularly flirty or interested in me, but I look just like the typical fat nerd, so I don't expect anyone to be swooning over me.

And a few days later, I had another girl at Miruna, who I thought would also be a disaster. No flirting, no holding hands, nothing. But I was completely wrong. After she shower she came, did some hugging, did BBBJ, got on top of me and stayed there long enough for me to be satisfied. The basic "girl next door" experience.

I didn't save Larissa's pics, I don't remember anything remarkable about her, so probably dark hair, average height, etc etc. So just avoid girls with that name at Miruna.

Did you speak to her about what she would and wouldn't do in the room and get a feel of whether she wanted to do a room with before selecting her? If not, you run a higher risk of bad service.

No. Usually I never do. I don't know Portuguese, I don't want to embarrass myself, and for me it's kinda interesting to discover what a girl will and won't do, without talking. Touch is my love language.

Anyway, my basic needs are very simple. BBBJ + CFS, with girl on top. When the mood is right, I am open for almost anything else, as long as there's a woman (or women) doing it. But I can be just as happy with the basics.

Here, though, it's not a question of not getting what I want. It's a question of someone trying to get out of doing basically anything. Trying to wrap the boy before he even had the chance to get up is ridiculous and unreasonable. Refusing to be on top is also ridiculous (I don't need her to even move, she can just lie there, I enjoy the feeling of the weight). I am no Brad Pitt, of course, but my hygiene is perfect, I wash and disinfect things, no one has ever complained.

This one is just a bad apple.

I've had similar experiences with girls from photoacompanhantes (where they would have fake pics and would charge up front) but never in a clinica. I see clinicas as places where the basic level of service would be assured.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

Greetings, dear fellow mongers.

I came by the beautiful SP to re-visit the usual clinicas.

Everything is the same. Lots of pretty girls. Prices creeped up slightly (Tangara and its satellites are 140 now) but not much.

Great food, nice weather, not too cold, not to hot.

However, I had my first very disappointing experience at Clinica Miruna.

A girl Larissa: in the room, didn't seem to want to hug, didn't want to do BBBJ, wrapped the boy before it even had the chance to get up, and after the insertion **insisted** on changing the position after about 15 seconds. (we started with her being on top).

I didn't want to change the position, and she didn't want to come back to being on top. So after a few moments I got up and went to the shower, she was out of the room faster than I could finish the rinse.

Of course, the management didn't want to do anything. So I ended up paying 190 for the very disappointing six or seven minutes.

Be warned. She is still out there.

Did you speak to her about what she would and wouldn't do in the room and get a feel of whether she wanted to do a room with before selecting her? If not, you run a higher risk of bad service.

[The Cane]

Scandallo! The baddest puta palace on the planet!

https://youtu.be/FdhYePsTaTk

[KcDark]

Greetings, dear fellow mongers.

I came by the beautiful SP to re-visit the usual clinicas.

Everything is the same. Lots of pretty girls. Prices creeped up slightly (Tangara and its satellites are 140 now) but not much.

Great food, nice weather, not too cold, not to hot.

However, I had my first very disappointing experience at Clinica Miruna.

A girl Larissa: in the room, didn't seem to want to hug, didn't want to do BBBJ, wrapped the boy before it even had the chance to get up, and after the insertion **insisted** on changing the position after about 15 seconds. (we started with her being on top).

I didn't want to change the position, and she didn't want to come back to being on top. So after a few moments I got up and went to the shower, she was out of the room faster than I could finish the rinse.

Of course, the management didn't want to do anything. So I ended up paying 190 for the very disappointing six or seven minutes.

Be warned. She is still out there.

Thank you for this report. Did she give you any signs that it would be a subpar session? For example, answering very short or with one word, not being engaged and flirting with you? Also, what is her description? Hair color, body type, tattoos? I'd hate to have a terrible session with "Larissa" who will probably change her name after word gets out that a session with her isn't good.

[Nounce]

... Especially 3 different Saturdays around 5-6 pm picked up young reasonably priced semi-pro types and great sessions without exception this time. One of them is now even married and gone!

I think the reason is they have to work around their class or work schedule. If you are a student or have a normal job, it is natural for them to work during weekend of earlier, logically speaking.

I have been to Scandallo during daytime once or twice to meet other members. Almost everyone was dressed more conservatively and in the outdoor cafe area. The ambience felt more reserve similar to Solarium in Rio.

I think it was an interesting experience to go around 7 PM to see girls line up on the bar to get your attention while you have dinner. If I see someone I like, I wave her over. Feel I am in the driver seat, almost no competition. You can see the girls coming for the new shift and catch them early.

I do also like later at night, the live music, and that is often the only time I can go. The drawback is the restaurant can be full or nearly full. The club area is often packed so you have to hunt a little, I was wondering what do I missed? LOL I think one has to like the club atmosphere to enjoy it more.

My logic is this, the longer you stay, the more you spend. Whether you go early or late, your spending may end up about the same.

[GiuseppeBonera]

I'm back in SP and already repeated with a few contacts! I plan to go to scandallo a few times but has anyone been to the new cafe foto or lotus lately? How is the movement at those clubs or any other like it?

[Bang Koker]

Thanks for the input Nounce. Followed your advice and visited one clinica yesterday. Not a bad way for a quick release for a reasonable price. Wish they were opened at night though. Idk why they operate as massage parlors when prostitution is legal. Maybe pimping isn't and that's why?

[The Critic]

I think the way to play it depends on your likes / dislikes and resources, including how much time you have and want to devote to the club.

I concur with The Cane, I have never had a bad time at Scandalo, to the point of any day is a good day! Timing may be an issue (early vs. Late). IMHO I always find the Candy Store fully stocked to my liking.

[Anaggie]

I have been to Scandello on a Saturday night back in Jan 2022 and it wasn't bad at all. It definitely wasn't as good as a Thursday night which are then nights I usually go. But it was still pretty damn good.