Sao Paulo Reports

[JohnJabber]

Just wondering if everyone else has the same experience as I did here.

I speak good Spanish and can mix in enough Portuguese to have a conversation / negotiate.

Non-negotiable.

Entrance / min consumption paid on exit 60 Rs.

Exit Tax to take garota off premises other than "hotel" next door 100 Rs.

Rooms 40 min = 40 Rs. 1 HR = 80 Rs.

Chicas start out with Rs 250-300 for 40 minutes and Rs 400-500 for 1 HR. This can be fairly easily negotiated down to 200 Rs /40 min or 300 Rs / HR. Even lower is possible but starts putting them in a pissy mood.

Some of the girls will try to make you think the first tier is 30 minutes if they size you up as green. This is easy to shut down. Just correct them and say its 40 minutes.

If you want all night, get their number and followup the next day to avoid exit tax. It was fairly easy (but did take some firm negotiating) to get all nights for 600 Rs starting about 9 pm and lasting till morning wake up (9 am or so for me). For a 600 Rs all night it has to be the right night. The average garota pulls an average of 1100-1400 Rs nightly on Thurs / Fri / Sat so enticing them away from club on those nights would be pricey. Oh on the 600 Rs all nights plan on a fairly pricey meal. They're going to want to eat and it ain't going to be Burger King.

So some all in examples.

Recon. Couple of 40 minute sessions to check out talent and get phone # - (garota / room / house) 200+40+60= 300 x 2 sessions = 600 Rs ($150 USD).

All nighter two garotas - (garaotas / uber / meal) - 600*2 + 50 + 100 = 1330 Rs ($330 USD).

[Lalabo]

Like Lalabo, one of my goals with this trip is to do a little scouting. The mongering scene is Sao Paulo is large, and I admit I have sampled only a small part of it. So, I'm making sure to mix in some places I have not been to before along with others that I already know I like.

I spent three hours hanging out at The Connection Nightclub. While there, I had three drinks and an appetizer that I shared with a girl. When I left, my final bill was 260 reals. That was about $65 for the night, plus roundtrip taxi fare at about 70 reals each way. Like I said, if I had the opportunity, I would give The Connection Nightclub another try on another night. Lots of 7's and 8's at more potentially more favorable prices than at places like Scandallo, Bomboa, and Cafe Photo.

Thanks for doing real scouting unearthing potential new gems. Mine was not much of scouting (maybe personal scouting for future). As it was my first trip I chose not to be adventurous, just tried the most talked about clinics and boates.

I will definitely check out Connection during my next trip.

[Lalabo]

When I was in scandallo, I invited a few girls that I like to sit chat and drink with me, and also got their contacts. Since I was currently with a girl in the club, I told them I will contact them the next day. One girl from Curitiba offered me 1500 for 4 hours + her other friend for 800 for 4 hours. So I kinda hit the jackpot. Another girl I contacted gave me a price of 1200 for 4 hours, before she starts work in the club. Too bad there was some communication problem as she did not know I was trying to tell her don't go to scandallo so early and spent time with me before going.

These were also without negotiations. And I did not see a need to negotiate lower. Also I don't speak much Portuguese, and people know I'm a foreigner.

This is very useful info. I will definitely try during my next trip. Thanks for sharing.

[Lalabo]

Honestly I do not understand why Abbobora gets so much love on this site. Is got great facilities but its more expensive and the lineup is not better than Moema Prime

That is exactly my take on Abbobora. It has bigger lineup in addition to better facilities compared to Prime. Optically most of the lineup is below Prime.

[Exec Talent]

I have visited the FKKs in Germany close to 15 times, and I just completed my 2nd visit to Globe. I absolutely agree with you. Globe is more expensive, but I don't think it is worth the additional money. As to eye candy, the large FKKs in Germany feature a large number of working girls, and one can find plenty of eye candy among them. No need to travel all the way to Zurich, although I liked that city.

Not going to beat this topic to death in the wrong forum, but there is an element that most people miss about clubs like Globe. The reason guys visit forums like this one is a shared interest, the same is true of clubs like Globe or even a termas like Centaurus in Rio. The price limits who will be in the club and also with whom you will be sharing the women. I have friends from around the world whom I met in these places. Interestingly, rarely inside or outside the clubs do we discuss women. So, a common interest brings us together, price limits whom we will encounter but that we met in basically a brothel does not dictate the nature of our ongoing relationships. Not unlike upscale country clubs in the United States.

[JohnJabber]

OK I was remembering wrong. These were Boates. One was a sauna (American Bar I think is the name). All of them trash bars like I remembered, but before I remembered you could find a gem here and there. Not anymore apparently. There's a relatively new place (Casarao) on the street that I assume is the reason as it soaks up all the talent on that stretch. I ended up liking Casarao so much (it was awesome every night of the week) that it was essentially my only destination for the entire trip. Price to quality ratio was far from what I remembered of the high end shops. I found enough 8-9's to choose from in Casarao that I didn't bother even checking out the high end joints with the higher pricing structure. Scandalo / Bomboa / etc.

BTW I understand why no one answered my post here (I had a total of 1 post) . So I thought ID put up this info even though this thread got no replies before.

Some years ago, I forget how many (3, 5, 10? There was a string of saunas (walking distance between them) along Rua August in el Centro. I can't remember the names of them. Strangely, I can't find any mention of them on the forum and I'm sure this forum must have been the way I found them way back when. Are they still around? Any thoughts on quality / safety / etc?

Thanks in advance.

[WyattEarp]

Is there any FKK in Brazil?

By FKK I mean fully naked girls and amenities (sauna, hot tub etc) comparable to Germany.

Not really. The closest thing are the termas in Rio.

Although, the word termas translates to spa that is not an accurate description. Men usually don't go to termas for the amenities. If a termas offers any amenities they usually are not that good. Weak massages, so-so steam baths. Monte Carlo offered both of these. The women also don't walk around naked.

What you typically will find is scantily-clad Brazilian women, a bar, some food, loud music and possibly a short sexy stage or pole dance by some of the girls. If you are interested in more specifics, you should inquire on the Rio de Janeiro thread.

[Bliadun]

Is there any FKK in Brazil?

By FKK I mean fully naked girls and amenities (sauna, hot tub etc) comparable to Germany.

I have visited the FKKs in Germany close to 15 times, and I just completed my 2nd visit to Globe. I absolutely agree with you. Globe is more expensive, but I don't think it is worth the additional money. As to eye candy, the large FKKs in Germany feature a large number of working girls, and one can find plenty of eye candy among them. No need to travel all the way to Zurich, although I liked that city.

[Lefeu]

...They will swear up and down that the optics at Globe are better than at any FKK in Germany (they are not) and that the service is so much better than anything you will find in Germany (again not true per my experience)...

I have visited the FKKs in Germany close to 15 times, and I just completed my 2nd visit to Globe. I absolutely agree with you. Globe is more expensive, but I don't think it is worth the additional money. As to eye candy, the large FKKs in Germany feature a large number of working girls, and one can find plenty of eye candy among them. No need to travel all the way to Zurich, although I liked that city.

[Combo]

If your sole purpose is mongering, stay in Sao Paulo. If you want to see Brasileiras prancing around the beach in thong bikinis and if you want to enjoy a premier tourist destination, try Rio. You can still monger with termas girls, prive girls and escorts. If you're lucky, you might also find a working girl in a bar. Sao Paulo is an urban jungle which isn't a great tourist destination.

Obviously, everyone has their own opinion on this.

This mirrors my opinion exactly. Sao Paulo is the superior mongering city (arguably the best in the World). But Rio is just one of those places you got to visit at some point. You really need to extend your trip.

[Eszpresszo]

Honestly I do not understand why Abbobora gets so much love on this site.

My friend, veracity is a rarity at this address.

[Turgid]

Honestly I do not understand why Abbobora gets so much love on this site. Is got great facilities but its more expensive and the lineup is not better than Moema Prime, or Enjoy which are sufficiently close that I would recommend visiting all three. Don; t make the mistake of judging a place's lineup quality based on one or two visits, I see these lineups month in month out and they all have some lookers, so much turnover and girls attending other clients that unless you visit a place every day for a week you will not know the lineup thoroughly. I have personally not seen anyone in Abbobora that I felt was worth the premium over similar quality in Enjoy or Prime. And at least 5 mongers that visit regularly routinely go to all those three places when in Moema.

Enjoy used to be my favorite clinica but in my trip last year something seemed to have gone awfully wrong there. I hope it has picked up as I will be visiting there in my November trip.

[Frankfurt]

Jet69 -replied to your enquiry but your inbox is full.

Frankfurt.

[The Cane]

I think some locals on that thread have a special deal with Globe. Like free entry or something. They just hang out on that thread constantly and if anybody says anything negative, or even a mix of positive and negative, they will flame the guy relentlessly. There were some real mongers who used to submit very detailed and useful reports, and they basically got driven off the forum by these Thread Sitters. I've seen it happen with other FKKs too.

Yeah, there is a group of hardcore Globe "loyalists" in that thread. They will swear up and down that the optics at Globe are better than at any FKK in Germany (they are not) and that the service is so much better than anything you will find in Germany (again not true per my experience). To them, this justifies the higher cost of mongering in Zurich. If you disagree with them, then they will become annoyed with you and make disparaging remarks. But, I think it's important for anybody considering traveling there to have a full and balanced view. I know of too many guys who have gone to Zurich with high expectations, only to have their hopes dashed (did not find it to be worth the money). No question that the optics and the service level is very, very good at Globe. But you can get the same in Germany which has so many more clubs to choose from to begin with. Oh, and us Brazil lovers know that optics and performance in Brazil is superior to Zurich at lower prices! And you can find them in all shapes, sizes, and colors in Brazil. Even with the smaller, flatter butts if you like (as my "alternative facts" photos prove). Word!

[Polyamorist]

ThadMax. Welcome back to heaven. I can't believe they flamed you in the Globe thread for just speaking the truth! Geez. Well you were spot on.

Haha I think some locals there got offended because I wasn't floored by Globe. It's like they took it personal.

I think some locals on that thread have a special deal with Globe. Like free entry or something. They just hang out on that thread constantly and if anybody says anything negative, or even a mix of positive and negative, they will flame the guy relentlessly. There were some real mongers who used to submit very detailed and useful reports, and they basically got driven off the forum by these Thread Sitters.

I've seen it happen with other FKKs too.