Sao Paulo Reports

[WyattEarp]

None. I am going to learn one of them when I get there. In Sao Paulo I want to build a house in Muribo and in BsAs I want to build a house in San Isidro. In the beginning I will go with pros but in the long-term I would prefer to have a girlfriend for a long-term relationship without marriage and kids. Unfortunately I think that there are not so many pros in BsAs only some escorts from websites. The are two things that I don't like on each place. In Sao Paulo they don't speak Spanish so I am going to have to learn Portuguese and Spanish as well if I want to travel to other countries as well. In BsAs there aren't any termos or clubs like Scandalo, the economy sucks and I am going to have to figure out a way to always have cash in Euro or Dollars while in Sao Paulo I think it is more easy.

I'm curious. Have you considered Rio? I think many SP lovers would still prefer actually living in Rio near the beach and visiting SP on occasion.

Maybe I'm oversimplifying it, but why is it difficult to have Euros and Dollars? I'm not sure what you are trying to do. You can't really walk around and use US Dollars in most of your day to day transactions. Like many middle and upper class people in South America, you hold money in an account abroad and access the money via an ATM or use a credit card linked to the account.

[John Corey]

Go for Sao Paulo. Warmer people and more selection of women. Traffic and crime may be worse, but if that's not an issue I'd choose Sao Paulo. But I am biased being Brazilian and used to live in Sao Paulo. I've been to BA before though.

Not sure what you mean by Muribo though. You mean Morumbi? If I were to live anywhere it would probably be Moema near Parque Ibirapuera. But you'd probably have to live in an apartment.

I have lived and worked in both Sampa (in Jardins) and BS. As (Recoleta). I find Brazilians to be much warmer and helpful unlike Argentinians, who are petty and borderline racists. BS. As. Is a beautiful city, the city has great architecture and excellent food, steaks and Italian cuisine, probably the best outside Italy. It is equally dangerous to one's personal safety, I have lived and worked on 4 continents and BS. As was the only place I had the privilege of being mugged in broad daylight in Recoleta, so safety wise it is no better than Sampa. Finally, women, nothing to beat Brasileras specially in Sampa.

Good luck on your move.

[DZone]

None. I am going to learn one of them when I get there. In Sao Paulo I want to build a house in Muribo and in BsAs I want to build a house in San Isidro. In the beginning I will go with pros but in the long-term I would prefer to have a girlfriend for a long-term relationship without marriage and kids. Unfortunately I think that there are not so many pros in BsAs only some escorts from websites. The are two things that I don't like on each place. In Sao Paulo they don't speak Spanish so I am going to have to learn Portuguese and Spanish as well if I want to travel to other countries as well. In BsAs there aren't any termos or clubs like Scandalo, the economy sucks and I am going to have to figure out a way to always have cash in Euro or Dollars while in Sao Paulo I think it is more easy.

Go for Sao Paulo. Warmer people and more selection of women. Traffic and crime may be worse, but if that's not an issue I'd choose Sao Paulo. But I am biased being Brazilian and used to live in Sao Paulo. I've been to BA before though.

Not sure what you mean by Muribo though. You mean Morumbi? If I were to live anywhere it would probably be Moema near Parque Ibirapuera. But you'd probably have to live in an apartment.

[Questner]

Sure, do yourself a favour and buy a Boca Juniors cap with bright BJ letters on the side. Anyway, raise a glass to today's default as Argentina skipped a payment on her bond obligations. In the past the question on Baires or Sampa was asked when fleeing the Reich, and later when banished by 'business associates' from sunny Mediterranean. Baires has got different genetic pool, many girls have French or Italian heritage. Any aspiring alcoholic should also choose Baires. The ways you can fuck up your mind there is incredible.

[Turgid]

................ BTW I love it when the Brazilian and Argentinian national soccer teams play each other! Talk about a war! Whew wouldn't miss it for nothing!

I have been to countries in Europe and South America during football matches and nothing can compare to Buenos Aires, Argentina. I had left my hotel for a walk one Sunday just before a football match between Boca Juniors and Riverplate and the scene was incredible; there were buses moving through the city with as many guys hanging on on the outside as inside, the din was unbelievable, there were tanks and other military vehicles on the streets, I was the only pedestrian and beat a hasty retreat back to my hotel. I have been to football clashes in Rio and SP and it was nothing like that.

[Balboa]

I agree with this much. But for me, at the end of the day, it's the people who make a place what it is, and I prefer hanging around Brazilians versus their neighbors to the south. Sao Paulo isn't the prettiest city, but it has its "pockets" LOL! And I have always liked mongering in Brazil better than Argentina, so Sao Paulo would be the easy pick for me between the two choices. Given other options, I would look at Curitiba and Florianopolis. BTW I love it when the Brazilian and Argentinian national soccer teams play each other! Talk about a war! Whew wouldn't miss it for nothing!

I agree!!

Brasil 🇧🇷 in general I'd choose easily over Argentina.

Like you say, mostly for the people, however, I truly enjoy my time in both SP and Rio!

[Hobbying]

I agree with this much. But for me, at the end of the day, it's the people who make a place what it is, and I prefer hanging around Brazilians versus their neighbors to the south. Sao Paulo isn't the prettiest city, but it has its "pockets" LOL! And I have always liked mongering in Brazil better than Argentina, so Sao Paulo would be the easy pick for me between the two choices. Given other options, I would look at Curitiba and Florianopolis. BTW I love it when the Brazilian and Argentinian national soccer teams play each other! Talk about a war! Whew wouldn't miss it for nothing!

I went to BA three times and none of the girls I was with were memorable whereas in SP I always get memorable experiences each time I go LOL.

Brazilians are also definitely more friendly with gringos than people in AR IMO.

[The Cane]

However, Buenos Aires is a much better city for beauty and ambiance.

I agree with this much. But for me, at the end of the day, it's the people who make a place what it is, and I prefer hanging around Brazilians versus their neighbors to the south. Sao Paulo isn't the prettiest city, but it has its "pockets" LOL! And I have always liked mongering in Brazil better than Argentina, so Sao Paulo would be the easy pick for me between the two choices. Given other options, I would look at Curitiba and Florianopolis. BTW I love it when the Brazilian and Argentinian national soccer teams play each other! Talk about a war! Whew wouldn't miss it for nothing!

[Turgid]

I would go with Sao Paulo just because I like Brazilian people and culture better. Throw in the fact that I'm a monger and, well that seals it for me since Brazil is the better mongering destination by far per my tastes.

Buenos Aires used to be the better mongering destination for me prior to 2011 when there was a clampdown, it was once my favorite destination. Now Sao Paulo is the better mongering place. However, Buenos Aires is a much better city for beauty and ambiance.

[Frankfurt]

Gents -posting in SP forum hoping for a response as Guaruja is closer to SP and some you esp the locals may have information. Is there a list of recommended clinicas in Guaruja area?

Thanks,

Frankfurt.

[The Cane]

Hi Guys,

I have to move in September permanent to Latin America and I have to choose between Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo. Money is not an issue. If you were me where would you move for the rest of your lives?

I would go with Sao Paulo just because I like Brazilian people and culture better. Throw in the fact that I'm a monger and, well that seals it for me since Brazil is the better mongering destination by far per my tastes.

[Steve 9696]

Hi Guys,

I have to move in September permanent to Latin America and I have to choose between Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo. Money is not an issue. If you were me where would you move for the rest of your lives?

Spot on agree with Wyatt. For girls particularly paid girls SP hands down. For quality of life in a nice city I'd pick BA. Hey you don't always want to do paid girls at home so maybe live in BA and hit Scandallo in SP on a regular basis. I'd be down with that.

[WyattEarp]

Hi Guys,

I have to move in September permanent to Latin America and I have to choose between Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo. Money is not an issue. If you were me where would you move for the rest of your lives?

I will presume you are moving for work / commerce. Otherwise, Rio or another Brazilian beach city would be far more enjoyable places to live than SP or BA.

SP vs. BA for living is an interesting question. If mongering is high on your list, SP would be the winner by far. BA people can be a bit cold. Brazilian women are also more approachable. Obviously, if you have looks and game anything is possible anywhere at anytime.

If you toss aside mongering, BA is a much more beautiful city. While BA is worn around the edges, it has an air of turn of the 20th century Europe. I think BA is also relatively safer. I would give SP the edge in food, but BA's food scene has become very good. It's not just steak and Italian anymore.

While I will confess I have never lived in either city, I prefer BA's neighborhoods and vibe. I could see myself being happy in a trendy BA barrio like Palermo a short walk from some beautiful parks.

[Bookie77]

Let me congratulate you. I'm envious. I've spent a little time in both cities.

Is Porto or Castellano your best language? I'the go there. Sampa has a sexual culture unlike anywhere I've been. But it's a reasonable flight from BsAs. As in both cities, which neighborhood, barrio is as important as which city.

Hb.

None. I am going to learn one of them when I get there. In Sao Paulo I want to build a house in Muribo and in BsAs I want to build a house in San Isidro. In the beginning I will go with pros but in the long-term I would prefer to have a girlfriend for a long-term relationship without marriage and kids. Unfortunately I think that there are not so many pros in BsAs only some escorts from websites. The are two things that I don't like on each place. In Sao Paulo they don't speak Spanish so I am going to have to learn Portuguese and Spanish as well if I want to travel to other countries as well. In BsAs there aren't any termos or clubs like Scandalo, the economy sucks and I am going to have to figure out a way to always have cash in Euro or Dollars while in Sao Paulo I think it is more easy.

[HarvestBoi]

Let me congratulate you. I'm envious. I've spent a little time in both cities.

Is Porto or Castellano your best language? I'the go there. Sampa has a sexual culture unlike anywhere I've been. But it's a reasonable flight from BsAs. As in both cities, which neighborhood, barrio is as important as which city.

Hb.

Hi Guys,

I have to move in September permanent to Latin America and I have to choose between Buenos Aires and Sao Paulo. Money is not an issue. If you were me where would you move for the rest of your lives?