Sao Paulo Reports

[The Cane]

In any event, I would say that the peak years were roughly 1995-2005.

And I started going to Brazil after that stretch of time. Right place. But at the wrong time! Story of my life. Sigh!

[Combo]

I'll take Sao Paolo over Rio any day. Not just for mongering, either. There are parts of SP that are actually nice to hang out in, and I don't just mean a hotel or a beach (as someone who grew up in Florida, I never understood why people travel across the world just to see a beach).

To me, you can't even compare the two. After you've seen the tourist sites, what's left to do in Rio? In SP, I found prives where it's about $30/ girl. I read that SP has 20% of the GDP of all of South America.

We don't travel that distance for just the beaches. We go to Rio to be in a chica paradise that also happens to have great beaches. It's so perfect to hit the beach before or after a great session or wake up early and surf then do a Termas.

FWIW, I do agree that S Paulo has the best talent and the most option. IMO best quantity and quality of any City in the world.

For me the perfect trip is a few nights in S Paulo followed by a week or more in Rio.

[WyattEarp]

Very simple question? So Paulo is an extremely large city. What area do you suggest staying? Close the clinics that you mention? Thanks.

Since this hasn't come up in awhile, I'll offer my opinion. I like the Jardim Paulista area. Great restaurants, cafes, stores, etc. Great walkability down some nice streets. It's more upscale. It's only a couple miles from most clinicas.

If you want to be near the popular clinicas, Moema is the place. It's a nice residential area. I have never stayed there, but I surmise that staying close to Shopping Ibirapuera (mall) puts you close to many amenities and the clinicas.

[WyattEarp]

I'll take Sao Paolo over Rio any day. Not just for mongering, either. There are parts of SP that are actually nice to hang out in, and I don't just mean a hotel or a beach (as someone who grew up in Florida, I never understood why people travel across the world just to see a beach).

I don't go to the beaches in Rio for beautiful sand or surfing or tanning. For me, the sexiest beaches on the planet are in Rio. And the women are in tiny bikinis showing off their amazing curves. If you can speak a little Portuguese, they are generally friendly and appreciate the attention.

Miami Beach is nice of course, but not nearly as nice as Rio.

[Trifecta68]

The weather has been great in SP these last few days. As of Saturday certain restrictions have been lifted. The restaurants can now have seated customers inside their establishments, but must close at 7 pm. Malls and retail shops are open, they were open the day before too, but now most stores have reopened. The parks are open as well. It is real nice to see SP and its inhabitants coming back to life. I had my first dinner out in a restaurant Saturday night with my MClass garota andmero um. It was our 3rd and best session. She is a keeper and I plan to stay in touch with her and see her next time I am in town.

I assume the clinicas can now be officially open and do not need to hide in plain sight like they did the last 10 days or so. Here is my report:

I like Abbobora and have been there 3 times and done 3 girls there. The Abbobora girls are super friendly. I went overtime with my 1st Abbobora girl, Lais (not sure on the spelling) and she finished me off with CIM. I warned her I was about to explode, but she kept sucking and she took every drop I had to give before she stopped. She is the girl who earlier in the session before vaginal intercourse spat on my index finger and stuck it up her vagina while she masturbated herself into an orgasm. My kind of girl!

My 2nd Abbobora girl was also REAL enthusiastic, and she too finished me off with CIM and took every drop. Anita was a nice-looking girl with natural curves.

But my favorite clinica of the trip, the place where I have had the most fun, without a doubt is Prime Clinica. This is the clinica I was referring to in my last post. Their front gate was always open. Just walk right in. I really like the girls here. So far, I have done 5 girls and I repeated with Marina, a skinny, wild little spinner with a great body and an offbeat personality. But I take my hat off to all the girls at Prime Clinica that I met there: Angelica, Agatha, Marina, Gabrielle, and Kari. Each girl gave her session everything she had to give or at least that's the way they made it seem to me. For 240 br per hour, I couldn't imagine a better bordello...

Natty- Great post! I normally visit Panama for my South American Latina Romps. Easy access from USA, safe, dollar currency and English spoken throughout. But w Covid on the rise and no end in lockdowns there my desire is to head further south. Very simple question? São Paulo is an extremely large city. What area do you suggest staying? Close the clinics that you mention? Thanks.

[WyattEarp]

In my view, Help was a very, very distant second to Scandallo. The facilities were nowhere near as nice, and the girls nowhere near as hot. I routinely left Help taking nobody. At Scandallo it's always my god so, so many good choices I can't decide! To be fair, by the time I started going to Brazil, Help's best days had already passed. The facilities were never on par with Scandallo, but I understand there was a time when the girls were hot, and the price was right. I missed that Helpee era.

I think it really depended on what year and what season. Help was always a great time, but seemed especially charged January through April. I suspect foreign men timed trips to escape the winter cold in the north and perhaps hit the New Years and Carnival celebrations. The number of girls from other regions seemed to increase over this period as well. I never took a poll, but I suspect the Brazilian school year being on break for part of that period contributed as well. I always said the supply of hot girls always seemed to miraculously increase to meet the demand from men.

There clearly was an informal supply chain at work. A couple girls from Minas would bus down. They'd call girls back home "we're making XX dollars a week, get your bunda down here". Some fair-skinned girls from the South would fly in. Dark-skinned girls from the north and the same phone calls occurred. They would put their friends up and cram into dumpy apartments in Copa. Some would go back home after making some cash and some would stay. Centaurus and Monte Carlo girls would wander over after closing to make some extra cash. Centaurus girls were a big, fuckin deal back then.

The girls would be seen on the beach between Posto 4 and 5. They would be seen at the cafes and restaurants in the area. Help wasn't just a disco. It was an entire 24/7 sub-economy driven by foreign men and their currency that built up around it. Shit, Help had a high volume currency exchange business in the front.

Having said all that about the regional delights on offer at Help, I always found the Carioca girls the most consistently sensual at professional lovemaking. It seemed like they were determined to uphold the Carioca reputation on their home turf.

In any event, I would say that the peak years were roughly 1995-2005. Most of the time, I found the Help girls to be every bit as hot as Scandallo girls. It was very casual though. There was no pomp and circumstance at Help. Just hot girls, loud music and drinking. It was rather inexpensive to drink there as well. The cover wasn't much and could be avoided entirely by arriving just a bit early.

[Turgid]

In my view, Help was a very, very distant second to Scandallo. The facilities were nowhere near as nice, and the girls nowhere near as hot. I routinely left Help taking nobody. At Scandallo it's always my god so, so many good choices I can't decide! To be fair, by the time I started going to Brazil, Help's best days had already passed. The facilities were never on par with Scandallo, but I understand there was a time when the girls were hot, and the price was right. I missed that Helpee era.

For me Help was like a magnet I could not resist when in Brazil. It had an infectious vibe both inside and outside. You never could predict what drama you would see between or among girls and between girls and guys and on some occasions I was part of the drama as, for example, leaving the disco with a girl and once outside she tries to pull some BS on me and I have to ditch her and she demanding money to get back inside which I never gave. The variety of girls you would meet there was amazing; I took some really hot girls from Help to my room. Good times.

[Hobbying]

Just like us guys that get around the clubs so do the girls. They too club hop after getting tired of one place. Especially one's are medium range where they can get about their same rate. But the high end girls that will ask 1 k one hour will stay at Scandallo because that's where they can get their asking price.

Like I said before, all the hot girls end up in SP because it is where the money is at. Scandallo is high end but there are private mansions that are even more high end but those you need a Brazilian buddy to get you in. But these girls get like US prices so not worth it IMO.

[WyattEarp]

I had my first dinner out in a restaurant Saturday night with my MClass garota andmero um. It was our 3rd and best session. She is a keeper and I plan to stay in touch with her and see her next time I am in town.

May I ask was the dinner time on the clock? How did this come up in the discussion?

I enjoy taking cool girls to dinner and what have you before or after a session. You kind of know when the girl will just hang out. The SP escort scene is a little different and I'm sure multiple sessions got her to a certain stage of comfort.

[Bookie77]

In my view, Help was a very, very distant second to Scandallo. The facilities were nowhere near as nice, and the girls nowhere near as hot. I routinely left Help taking nobody. At Scandallo it's always my god so, so many good choices I can't decide! To be fair, by the time I started going to Brazil, Help's best days had already passed. The facilities were never on par with Scandallo, but I understand there was a time when the girls were hot, and the price was right. I missed that Helpee era.

First time I have been in RJ and Florida bar was in 1995 and I was only 18 years old. Girls were asking for 20 dollars per noite.

[Member #4698]

Is the Prime Clinica you are talking about at this address: Av. Ira, 511 - Moema, So Paulo. SP, 04082-001?

It's crazy how many decent clinicas are within walking distance from each other! I literally walked past a couple going to get food in between breaks from the clinica visits without knowing it.

Clinica Carinas is a decent house as well.

I believe I also sessioned with bruna and she was great. Very sensual and slow session that I also enjoyed! They also have good rooms with mirrors on the ceilings and walls and good clean showers. Highly recommend as well if you don't find what you'in looking for in abbobora which I still think is my favorite since the girls were very friendly and never had a bad session or didn't like at least 3 girls in the line up. It was consistent which I like although the bathroom and bed were just ok but pretty standard set up like the rest of the other houses.

Yes, Prime is at Av. Iraí, 511 - Moema. I like walking around the neighborhood too. But nothing tops Sukhumvit Soi 24 to Soi 26 in BKK for convenience and for in your face (girls sitting outside their parlors beckoning customers inside), wall to wall oilie massage joints. Geylang, in Singapore, was also a national treasure as far as punting and casas were concerned until gentrification began a few years ago. I fondly remember the nights when in addition to all the great Geylang houses (casas) I used to enjoy, there were 100's and 100's of SW girls from Indonesia, Thailand, Vietnam, and China hanging about. They would swarm you at certain residential intersections, 50 to 60 girls at a time. It was all good fun and an amazing experience!

I forgot to mention, that yes, the facilities at Clinica Carinas were the best of the three clinicas I visited. They had a nicely furnished bedrooms and large, clean bathrooms. But the facilities at Abbobora and Prime were ok / good. Bruna! Nice girl. So soft and tender.

[The Cane]

Couldn't agree more. I would argue that HELP! (pronounced "Helpee", by Brazilians), back-in-the-day was perhaps a close second to a Scandallo type atmosphere that you're wishing for.

Naturally, just an educated guess, since I haven't been to Scandallo (I'll leave that for others to chime-in). But HELP! also had its fair share of stunners, hotties and cuties, coming from all over Brazil, to shake their money makers, in abundance.

For me back then, there was very little need to go to SP, as I tended to enjoy more of what the northern beach and Amazonian cities had to offer.

Yes, one can only dream and wish another HELP! or Scandallo type club, will Rio get back to those type of glory days. But until then I hope Rio, SP and Scandallo, continues to entertain your needs when in Brazil.

Keep the comparisons coming, I think it helps newbies and MBs a like, make better decisions w/r to differences and the pros and cons of Rio vs. SP.

In my view, Help was a very, very distant second to Scandallo. The facilities were nowhere near as nice, and the girls nowhere near as hot. I routinely left Help taking nobody. At Scandallo it's always my god so, so many good choices I can't decide! To be fair, by the time I started going to Brazil, Help's best days had already passed. The facilities were never on par with Scandallo, but I understand there was a time when the girls were hot, and the price was right. I missed that Helpee era.

[Spidy]

. . . I love how many options you have (boates, clinicas, online girls) and how they don't interfere with each other so you can do clinicas or online girls in the day and boates at night. . . .

If they made a scandallo type boate in rio . . .

Couldn't agree more. I would argue that HELP! (pronounced "Helpee", by Brazilians), back-in-the-day was perhaps a close second to a Scandallo type atmosphere that you're wishing for.

Naturally, just an educated guess, since I haven't been to Scandallo (I'll leave that for others to chime-in). But HELP! also had its fair share of stunners, hotties and cuties, coming from all over Brazil, to shake their money makers, in abundance.

For me back then, there was very little need to go to SP, as I tended to enjoy more of what the northern beach and Amazonian cities had to offer.

Yes, one can only dream and wish another HELP! or Scandallo type club, will Rio get back to those type of glory days. But until then I hope Rio, SP and Scandallo, continues to entertain your needs when in Brazil.

Keep the comparisons coming, I think it helps newbies and MBs a like, make better decisions w/r to differences and the pros and cons of Rio vs. SP.

[NRandom940]

Mongering aside, the jokes, fables and wisecracks presented here by myself and others w/r to the age old feud/rivalry between Cariocas vs. Paulistas, if anything serve to highlight the stark differences in social culture, politics, atmosphere and attitudes of the two (2) cites.

So while the debate will continue to rage on, one can glean small insights into each city from such simple fables/jokes.

For example, if cities (and by extension the people) do indeed have attributes such as culture, politics, atmosphere and attitudes, then I known myself, well enough know, Rio fits my personality and profile better then SP.

Although, there will always be hints of SP, that I will continue to like way better than Rio.

I'll take Sao Paolo over Rio any day. Not just for mongering, either. There are parts of SP that are actually nice to hang out in, and I don't just mean a hotel or a beach (as someone who grew up in Florida, I never understood why people travel across the world just to see a beach).

To me, you can't even compare the two. After you've seen the tourist sites, what's left to do in Rio? In SP, I found prives where it's about $30/ girl. I read that SP has 20% of the GDP of all of South America.

[Spidy]

I have a love / hate relationship with SP. . . but for now its a give and take with the SP and RJ debate which I wrote a whole post comparing the two if you want to check it out.

Mongering aside, the jokes, fables and wisecracks presented here by myself and others w/r to the age old feud/rivalry between Cariocas vs. Paulistas, if anything serve to highlight the stark differences in social culture, politics, atmosphere and attitudes of the two (2) cites.

So while the debate will continue to rage on, one can glean small insights into each city from such simple fables/jokes.

For example, if cities (and by extension the people) do indeed have attributes such as culture, politics, atmosphere and attitudes, then I known myself, well enough know, Rio fits my personality and profile better then SP.

Although, there will always be hints of SP, that I will continue to like way better than Rio.