Sao Paulo Reports

[Member #4732]

Out of curiosity, what do they charge the girls to get in?

Stuff always subject to change, but the scheme has been that the ladies paid at least 200 if not more to get in. If they stayed a full shift they would receive a courtesy invite to enter free the next day. If they returned they would continue to receive free invites for each successive day. If they "faulted" they would need to restart the cycle and pay the full admission again on their next post fault date. Exception being they could could choose not to work on either Saturday or Monday (but not both) and keep their invite streak alive. So the hard core regulars can avoid the fee but many (most?) cannot keep that streak alive all the time.

Hard to say how many of the ladies make bank on a given night. My impression is that quite a few, if not most, do not. But I could be wrong.

[RMundi000]

I would not go that far. Currency exchange rate can reverse quickly and you can be sure Scandallo will not lower their price in that event so this is not a good development no matter how you spin it. Scandallo's dominance is a net negative relative to the whole market. There is not enough boate competition so they can gouge, and they are gouging. They charge the women a fortune to get in and then the women try to pass the cost onto client.

What is more worrisome is that this could lead to price rises in other areas like Clinicas and freelance rates. Hopefully there is enough competition in those sectors to prevent that.

Also some of us are locals.

Out of curiosity, what do they charge the girls to get in?

[Brsvv]

I hope they consider this issue while getting the app ready. But knowing Brazil. They won't. And it will create headaches for everyone involved.

Maybe they will also allow vaccinated tourists to enter without testing soon.

They just reversed the decision:

https://agora.folha.uol.com.br/sao-p...a-vacina.shtml

[Brsvv]

I should be on the ground this week in SP, now I only need to clear the hurdle of getting a negative PCR COVID test.

My plan is to head to the hotel upon my early arrival. I'm catching a red eye and get to SP in the early hours, hopefully The Renaissance is willing to let me check in early for a fee.

I plan then to eat something, head to a droguera for some vitamin c, I'll be bringing some vitamin V, but I've read that see gives you more flexibility should the need arise to get into action at random times. I also plan to buy some basics nearby, and make a trip to a Bradesco for funds. I see there's a bank location near the hotel, hopefully it's convenient for a bank run.

Other than that I plan to hit Moema Prime to get started, release some stress for awhile and prepare for my first trip to Scandallo at night. I hope to meet some fellow mongers this next week and half! Wish me luck!

I'm also staying at the Renaissance. I came from Miami and was able to get a room when I got to the airport!

Let me know when you plan to head to scandallo. Never been and also never met a fellow monger LOL. I was a frequent visitor of casarão and bomboa 222.

[Anaggie]

It seems to say that Paulistas will have to download an app and report their vaccination status (where and when they got it) on it to the prefeitura. And the place you want to go will check your status on the app in order to let you in. This could be a serious problem for non-Brazilians who have been vaccinated abroad and have a vaccine card but may not be able to upload that info on the app.

I hope they consider this issue while getting the app ready. But knowing Brazil. They won't. And it will create headaches for everyone involved.

Maybe they will also allow vaccinated tourists to enter without testing soon.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

From next Monday, August 30, bars and restaurants in SP are required to ask for proof that clients are vaccinated at least once against the Covid-19. https://agora.folha.uol.com.br/sao-p...prefeito.shtml.

It seems to say that Paulistas will have to download an app and report their vaccination status (where and when they got it) on it to the prefeitura. And the place you want to go will check your status on the app in order to let you in. This could be a serious problem for non-Brazilians who have been vaccinated abroad and have a vaccine card but may not be able to upload that info on the app.

[Nordico]

From next Monday, August 30, bars and restaurants in SP are required to ask for proof that clients are vaccinated at least once against the Covid-19. https://agora.folha.uol.com.br/sao-p...prefeito.shtml.

[Polyamorist]

After reading the post below, I decided to write out a quick tip sheet.

Salaam Anaggie,

Some good tips there about Scandallo and boates in general. I would add a couple:

1. Only accept girls that you approach, not vice-versa. If a girl approaches you, there is a chance she has been sent by a third party with questionable intentions.

2. Don't accept girls who pester you for drinks. Often they only start to do this after they have given up hope of getting a room, and see drinks as the only way of getting money out of you.

3. Ask her if she likes what you like in bed. If she seems hesitant on anything (especially kissing), don't fool yourself that you will be able to overcome that in the room. It means she is not into you period.


However, be aware that no system is foolproof against a girl like the one Sayyid BarryWood ran into, the girl who acts enthusiastic in the bar and then does a complete U-turn in the room. Ultimately it is up to the club management to send a signal that ripoff behavior is discouraged not encouraged. There needs to be a genuine atmosphere of respect for the customer.

The recent price increase seems like an act of desperation to make up for lost revenue. Unfortunately it is not going to bring back the customers.

[WyattEarp]

1) once inside, get a feel for the place without talking to anyone. Definitely smile at them but just walk around till you have figured out where to sit for a drink or two.

2) get a drink and let your head settle. The excitement will lead to bad decision making.

3) watch the girls. There are some that just have a ***** attitude and start eliminating them. There is no need to conquer or win her over. You are paying for the girl. Get the one you want.

4) the first one you talk to is for info only no matter how hot or what she promises. Get all the info. Rates, what she offers, how much do girls usually charge and so forth. But her a drink if you must and get that info. After her first drink, let her go. Tell her you will look around and then let her know. There is no compulsion to take her. They know this and so should you.

5) look around and find another one and start talking to her. You should start to notice a pattern of the price and attitude. Do the same as above and get another one that you are interested in.

6) once you get a third, you should now be finding ones you are interested in. If you do come to an agreement, you need to make sure you kiss here at your chair. If she doesn't or she doesn't follow thru. More than likely she will be like that in the room. Dump her.

7) spend time at the place. Don't try to get in and out. If you rush your choice, you will be disappointed. I ended up staying at Scandello from 9-2 am. I only spent 900 total which includes entry fee and got a decent buzz and found a girl who ended up being what I was looking for.

This is very useful advice Anaggie. For the prices you pay to enter and session at Scandallo, you definitely want to play it slow. If a girl that approaches you early really gets you going and you're concerned she will disappear, get her contact info. It can be overwhelming for the newcomers, but you want to keep your wits about you and enjoy the scene. These girls are here almost every night and can also be beckoned to come to your place during the day.

[EverythingBlue]

After reading the post below, I decided to write out a quick tip sheet.

Please follow these tips while at Scandello especially if this is your first time (I have used this at all boates and it usually works out good):

1) once inside, get a feel for the place without talking to anyone. Definitely smile at them but just walk around till you have figured out where to sit for a drink or two.

2) get a drink and let your head settle. The excitement will lead to bad decision making.

3) watch the girls. There are some that just have a ***** attitude and start eliminating them. There is no need to conquer or win her over. You are paying for the girl. Get the one you want.

4) the first one you talk to is for info only no matter how hot or what she promises. Get all the info. Rates, what she offers, how much do girls usually charge and so forth. But her a drink if you must and get that info. After her first drink, let her go. Tell her you will look around and then let her know. There is no compulsion to take her. They know this and so should you.

5) look around and find another one and start talking to her. You should start to notice a pattern of the price and attitude. Do the same as above and get another one that you are interested in..

Great advice, it all makes sense. I can already imagine my heart beating fast and the little head taking over upon arrival, leading like you said to bad choices. I need to save your post!

[Anaggie]

After reading the post below, I decided to write out a quick tip sheet.

Please follow these tips while at Scandello especially if this is your first time (I have used this at all boates and it usually works out good):

1) once inside, get a feel for the place without talking to anyone. Definitely smile at them but just walk around till you have figured out where to sit for a drink or two.

2) get a drink and let your head settle. The excitement will lead to bad decision making.

3) watch the girls. There are some that just have a ***** attitude and start eliminating them. There is no need to conquer or win her over. You are paying for the girl. Get the one you want.

4) the first one you talk to is for info only no matter how hot or what she promises. Get all the info. Rates, what she offers, how much do girls usually charge and so forth. But her a drink if you must and get that info. After her first drink, let her go. Tell her you will look around and then let her know. There is no compulsion to take her. They know this and so should you.

5) look around and find another one and start talking to her. You should start to notice a pattern of the price and attitude. Do the same as above and get another one that you are interested in.

6) once you get a third, you should now be finding ones you are interested in. If you do come to an agreement, you need to make sure you kiss here at your chair. If she doesn't or she doesn't follow thru. More than likely she will be like that in the room. Dump her.

7) spend time at the place. Don't try to get in and out. If you rush your choice, you will be disappointed. I ended up staying at Scandello from 9-2 am. I only spent 900 total which includes entry fee and got a decent buzz and found a girl who ended up being what I was looking for.

Use what is useful above, throw away what is useless and create your own unique system.

[Axel Heyst]

Interesting report Barry. Thanks for posting it. But it sounds like you are getting mixed results, so I have a couple of, what I hope are, helpful suggestions:

1st, I would advise you to stay away from photoacompanhantes.com completely. There is just too much BS on that site. Who needs it? I have found high quality, great girls true to their pics and great in bed on MClass and Club Model. I never tried Private55. If you say it is good, I believe you. I noticed that a few of these girls are on multiple sites.

2nd, I never do LT with a girl until I have had her at least one-time ST and have found out if I even want to have her a 2nd time or for a longer time. I don't like the commitment or the added expense of LT until I know exactly what I am going to get. Scandello has rooms and Scandello has a boat load of girls. This is a good thing. You should take advantage of the situation. If you click with a girl and like her a whole lot you can get her What'sApp after the 1st session and arrange to see her all you want on the outside whenever you want and for a better rate. If you don't like the girl, you can go back downstairs and get another one real fast. Ha Ha. And even when I have had a great session, I sometimes go back downstairs and find another girl for my 2nd round. 2 fers are great!

[EverythingBlue]

I should be on the ground this week in SP, now I only need to clear the hurdle of getting a negative PCR COVID test.

My plan is to head to the hotel upon my early arrival. I'm catching a red eye and get to SP in the early hours, hopefully The Renaissance is willing to let me check in early for a fee.

I plan then to eat something, head to a droguería for some vitamin c, I'll be bringing some vitamin V, but I've read that see gives you more flexibility should the need arise to get into action at random times. I also plan to buy some basics nearby, and make a trip to a Bradesco for funds. I see there's a bank location near the hotel, hopefully it's convenient for a bank run.

Other than that I plan to hit Moema Prime to get started, release some stress for awhile and prepare for my first trip to Scandallo at night. I hope to meet some fellow mongers this next week and half! Wish me luck!

[WyattEarp]

I would not go that far. Currency exchange rate can reverse quickly and you can be sure Scandallo will not lower their price in that event so this is not a good development no matter how you spin it. Scandallo's dominance is a net negative relative to the whole market. There is not enough boate competition so they can gouge, and they are gouging. They charge the women a fortune to get in and then the women try to pass the cost onto client.

What is more worrisome is that this could lead to price rises in other areas like Clinicas and freelance rates. Hopefully there is enough competition in those sectors to prevent that.

Also some of us are locals.

Yes, the Real could reverse its decline and that would suck. I just saw somewhere that annualized inflation in Brazil was almost 9%. That is likely a big motivator for Scandallo to raise prices. For all of us business nerds, high local inflation (relative to USA Inflation) is usually a harbinger of a declining currency.

We'll have to see how all this shit shake out in a post-COVID world. Canada which is an easier market for me to access has seen escort agencies and independents bump up their prices over the last year. As Mr. Rovnak commented, there is a lack of competition. The local competition for now would seem to be escorts on the high-end and clinicas at the low-end.

Here's another one for us nerds: Look at the Bovespa stock index. Other than a blip in the Spring of 2020, you would think everything was fine in Brazil. Brazil like almost every industrialized country has papered over the economic hardship on the ground with printed money.

[Lalabo]

I guess they need to recover with a weak real and the pandemic affecting business.

I doubt it's due to depreciation of REAL. As long as they're still charged the same for goods and services, it shouldn't matter that the REAL is depreciating a bit.

Got to somehow pay for that renovation they have been doing for forever.