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03-26-23 15:11 #16455
Posts: 59Casarao Saturday Night
I leave Brazil on a late flight today. Last weekend I made a second quick trip to Tangara and saw Carla. Shorty, curvy morena. She had a great attitude and provided good service. I would recommend. $R140 for the hour. Brazil. Spent the week in Camboriú and Curtiba but didn't session. I wish I had gone to Evidence in Curtiba based on a recommendation from someone I met in Tanagra. Also, funny. In Tantara there was a 85 year old guy with a walker and whom I assume with his son there to get serviced. Nice.
Last night I decided to make one last run and my friend ultimately decided he didn't want to go anywhere. So I decided to just quickly hit Casarao. With two trips there it feels pretty familiar at this point. It was close to where we were staying near Sumaré metro. I had a bit of reals left to burn but set myself a $R500 limit that included anal and with a girl I wasn't settling for. Relatively easy parameters for Casarao.
Casarao as a vibe is really not my scene so I tend to want to just get in, find a girl and get out. I treat it almost like a CLínica but insist on a drink with the girl first to check the vibe. As soon as I entereted and wandered downstairs for my G&T I had one girl approach but not my type or standard. It's important to just politely decline and they move on fast. Two more girls approached and same thing. I am not seeing anything that I like but the girls circulate fast and it's only just before midnight. Lots of new arrivals. I make a couple of rounds and hang out by the door hoping to maybe just jump on a a new (re) entering girl. Nothing. Back downstairs. And a girl that had caught my attention on the way up because she looked like a serious gym girl is still there. She is wearing skin tight white pants and a halter top that show off her athletic physique. I decide to take a closer look. Sure enough she has the arms of someone that spends regular time in the gym and the stomach is flat and flawless. I offer her a drink. She gets coconut water. Because she explains she is a serious gym girl. She has video of herself squatting and deadlifting that create the ass she wasn't born with. The only thing I don't like are the bolt-ONS. I really prefer natural girls no matter the size. She circulates between Connections, Scandallo and Casarao. I could see that. She isn't the model type but she puts in the work. She is probably busy at Casarao and Connections and finds some people at Scandallo from time to time who want a toned girl. She is fine with the patter but definitely wants to get to the room. Ok I don't want to hang in Casarao either. I ask her price. $R700. I counter with $400 willing to settle for my $R500 with anal. She says $R500. Ok with anal. No anal is $R650. I order a second drink. I know she wants to go to the room. I make. My offer again $R500 with anal. She accepts immediately. We finish our drinks.
Only a short wait in the line. I think I have the best looking girl there at the moment. We chat some more which as others mentioned gives an opportunity to work on the vibe just a little. Take advantage. The girls are people and a bit of warming up and connection go a long way. I always want to just be their favorite customer of the night.
In the room the clothes come off and yeah she is a gym girl. Attitude is warm. I give her a couple of pointers about what I like, order etc. I find with these girls who see customers regularly it's best to just lay out any preferences. It helps everything go smoothly and if you have a girl who wants to please you are helping her out so she doesn't have to guess. (I do this differently with SA girls or infrequent semi-pros etc.).
Two things were great about the session. I like DATY with a girl that relaxes into it. I know when they are faking most of the time and I know it takes some time. She was one of my top DATY experiences in a long time. She had this amazing clit that just went erect and was super sensitive. You can't fake that. It was a playground. I burn 20-30 minutes no joke on it and am happy to do so. She looks down and says "it's so big" multiple times, referring to her clit in a refreshing twist in the normal use of the phrase. She orgasms twice maybe 3 times. She wants to fuck and she just goes straight for the ass with her in top. And after she gets warmed up she is just pounding me with her ass using those toned legs of hers. This is clearly an easy leg day for her. Only the sight of her fake tits were less than perfect. I am lasting a long time in her ass after the warm up but she is determined to get me to nut in her ass. She succeeds. I am happy. I was planning on getting a nice blow job for the second nut but time is sort of coming up and my friend had decided to wait up for me. So I call this a win. She heads back down to clearly find another client. I head out with about $150 spent doing two things I love with a 24 yr gym girl. Casarao. Brazil.
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03-26-23 13:57 #16454
Posts: 723Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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03-26-23 13:20 #16453
Posts: 2953There was no internet
Originally Posted by AxelHeyst [View Original Post]
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03-26-23 12:50 #16452
Posts: 723Originally Posted by FlowState985 [View Original Post]
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03-26-23 06:29 #16451
Posts: 148Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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03-26-23 01:58 #16450
Posts: 2953Originally Posted by SocratesNY [View Original Post]
The interesting thing was they were always in a group. I stood next to them and they other girls sensed that I wanted to talk to one of them and they figured out who it was so they all left with her alone so I could talk to her.
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03-26-23 01:42 #16449
Posts: 2953Originally Posted by Rahsta [View Original Post]
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03-25-23 23:40 #16448
Posts: 723On Tipping at Bomboa
Great Reportage, JZ. I am glad you liked the top 3 SP boates. I concur with most of what you reported, but I do have a few comments:
First on Tipping at Bomboa: I don't like it! In all my previous trips to SP I was never asked to tip my Bomboa waiter. I was assigned the same guy, Orlando, on my Oct / Nov 2021 trip & in my subsequent April / May 2022 trip. Orlando was a 1st class guy and he gave me great service. He never asked for a tip. Why should he? Brazil does not have a tipping culture. But I gave him 400 BR on my last night in Bomboa on both trips BECAUSE he deserved it. He earned it! But I should add that over the course of both of my previous 6 week trips, I spent a significant number of nights in Bomboa.
But something changed on my most recent Oct / Nov trip when I was assigned a different waiter, a younger guy. The new guy hit me up for tips every time I visited Bomboa. His service was still 1st class except for his constant begging / nagging for a tip. I never took heed of his girly suggestions, and he stopped making them after my first visit. But on that 1st night back in Bomboa, he put the touch on me as I was trying to pay my tab. I took him aside and I told him I would take care of him before I left town, but that I would not tip him on a nightly basis. He nodded his understanding of what I saying, but every time I went to Bomboa it was like "Groundhogs Day" the movie with his continued moaning for a tip every time I went to pay my tab. It became annoying and it began to piss me off because I knew he was not asking for tips from his SP customers, and I did not like being treated differently due only to my nationality. So finally, about 4 weeks into the trip, I had enough of the guy. I moved to a different location in the bar near the bandstand and requested that Orlando take over as my waiter. That was that. But before I left SP, I gave Orlando a generous tip for his excellent, PERSONALIZED, service. I did not give a tip to the young waiter because he did not listen to me and that pissed me off.
BTW, No other boate in SP allows its wait staff to ask customers for tips. In fact, I have never had anyone in any boate, terma or clinica ask for a tip and that includes my girls. No wait, come to think of it, one of my Scandallo girls and I used to smoke in the rooms upstairs, and on our 1st night together she suggested I give the cleaning worker 30 BR which I did because it sounded very reasonable and wise. KKK.
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03-25-23 23:01 #16447
Posts: 130Originally Posted by JZeleznik [View Original Post]
I tipped my host R50 before I left, but was surprised to see a 15% service charge on the bill. As SP doesn't have a tipping culture, I wonder if they also do that to the locals. I mentioned I already took care of my host with a cash tip, but they still insisted as this service charge was for the whole service staff team. As I took a girl out, I believe the 15% also applied to the exit fee, which I feel is wrong. It's like adding tip on the taxes in the US. At the end of the day, it wasn't that much so I let it go, but the whole unannounced 15% felt forced and mandatory. Bamboa also charges a CC service charge based on % of the bill, which Scandallo does not.
As Bamboa also upped their minimum consumption from R200 to R300, once you add in the 15% service charge and CC service charge, which basically increases all consumption cost, I am not sure if Bamboa is a good alternative to Scandallo anymore when you want a more laid back and cheaper change of pace. Bamboa now cost more than Scandallo (if you go there before 7 pm) or very similar in pricing if you go after 7 pm. Why pay more or almost the same to go to a place that is inferior to Scandallo in almost every way?
It felt to me like they are trying to keep up with the Jones, but overplayed their hand with a double whammy of increases. I don't think I'll be visiting Bamboa anytime soon, and that's even after having good service from a Bamboa host and finding a nice girl who gave me a good time. I felt l paid about the same as if I went to Scandallo and would have left with a hotter girl there.
I have crossed Caf Photo off my list for the same reasons. They also have a 15% service charge, CC service charge and a R350 entry (R150 consumption). When the pricing once all the fees are added is similar to Scandallo and you offer much less in every way, why bother going there?
I currently only consider Casarao and Connection to be "value" alternatives to Scandallo among the boates I've visited.
Overall I strongly recommend Casarao, with a few caveats. Its often standing room only, and moving about can be a real challenge. In my opinion its not the slower paced experience you'll have in Bomboa or Scandallo where you get to feel the girls out and shop around. If you see one you like don't hesitate, just grab her and go. If its not amazing, for the price you pay you can easily find another girl. It definitely has the vibe of a packed pre Covid Tijuana club if that's helpful for anyone. For a long term stay, Casarao would absolutely be a staple of my week.
I would disagree with the suggestion about "If you see one you like don't hesitate, just grab her and go. " A few friends and even a few patrons of the club mentioned to me that any girl you see who is unavailable now, will be free soon enough. Due to the clientele and the type of place it is, most local guys only take the girl to the nearby hotel for 30 minutes. And it's rare to have a girl be willing to spend hours talking / smoozing with a guy at the club until he commits, which can be common in Scandallo.
While it's not a "fast house," it's the closest thing to it among boates in SP. Even if a girl spends 15-30 min talking to a guy, and they spend 60 min in the room, she will be back in 1. 5 hours. But in most cases, if you see a girl leaving the club, she will 95% of the time be back in 30 minutes then it's your turn.
I've been told the best spot to chill at near the entrance. You get to see which girls are entering and leaving the club and usually those are the better looking ones. And if you see a hot girl leaving, you can be pretty much assured she'll be back in 30-45 minutes and you can then make your move, as it's "next man up!
A lot of people, mostly in person, try to convince me that Scandallo isn't worth it. They say the clinica girls are just as good, and while I'm sure there is plenty of overlap in terms of girls, the sex I've had with Scandallo girls is consistently on another level in terms of passion and intensity. .
This just reinforces my belief that a significant portion of the Scandallo girls would never be found in Casarao, clinicas or other venues. Sure there are some crossover between the two clubs in terms of girls who work there. Any girl can try to work at Scandallo, from SA / MP / Online girls, clinica girls, Casarao or other boate girls or even hot pink book girls. All they need to do is pay their 300-350 admission cost and keep coming back or get a saida for a free invite back. And the free invite at Scandallo is more flexible now according to a few girls I spoke to. The free invite used to be only valid for the next business day (exclusions for Saturday and Monday), but is now valid for the next two working days.
Their success depends on whether they can compete with the other girls who show up, which can be a challenge as much of the clientele prefer girls with more hotness, class, education, charisma, etc. As the club is dominated by rich locals, I'm told by most of the Scandallo girls that the local Brazilians prefer tall, thin, tanned girls with big ass and tits, who can carry a conversation and drink like they have a hole in their shoes. Then there is the subset of rich Asians that frequent the place who prefer the pale skinned, innocent looking pretty thin girls.
I've seen a girl at Scandallo during the 4 pmt o 12 am shift leave empty handed and end their night at Casarao. I've seen a Moema clinica girl give Scandallo a try, but fail and then go back to their clinica job to recoup their Scandallo admission. I've seen SA / MP / Online girls give Scandallo a try when their schedule allows it. I've seen pink book girls get a free invite to be eye candy for the club during a slower night, and they disappear the next day back to their life with their sugar daddies or modeling gigs.
So there is a huge cross-over of girls from other venues coming to Scandallo. You'll find the lower tier girls from other venues at Scandallo, but not the higher tier girls from Scandallo at other venues. If they are successful working at Scandallo with any regularity, they usually don't want to go back to their other working venue.
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03-25-23 22:11 #16446
Posts: 6441Visual Tours
Originally Posted by Rahsta [View Original Post]
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03-25-23 21:46 #16445
Posts: 367Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
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03-25-23 19:40 #16444
Posts: 723It's Wilder
Originally Posted by Nounce [View Original Post]
Nonetheless. I will always think of Colombia as the wild west of SA and when I was a young man full of youthful energy & overflowing with testosterone, I loved it. I loved the adventure and I loved the girls. Ha Ha. But today I am in love with Brazilian girls and the relatively tranquillo vibe going on in Brazil. Someday I might get bored with Brazilian girls and decide to revisit Colombia to see what's up & what has changed, but right now I have very little desire to do so. In fact, my only regret looking back was that I did not check out Brazil in the 1980's when I had ample opportunities and instead I chose to hang out mostly in Bolivia, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia and CR. But all that was before I headed EAST in '89 and discovered Thai girls.
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03-25-23 16:19 #16443
Posts: 2953Context
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
I think what OP means about service is that like "cars are cheaper in Colombia" while you are saying "Brazil has better cars". I would guess most would agree with both statements.
Instead of comparing, I think most frequent posters here will always like Brazil better, and same for the Colombia mongers. That makes them a tie in my view. But then if you just read the reports in general, I think Colombia has the edge. It's wilder and one can see sex that just not in Brazil reports. MB1 has been to both places and has very selective taste, where does he monger now? On both boards, on top of my head, the only member that I think can easily switch side to Colombia is AH. I could be completely wrong but it would be interesting to see what happens if he makes the move. Haha. It's because he checks all the boxes, his taste, and certain habit that ensures he will have even better time in Colombia after he spends enough time there which is a must and he has the time. His budget will get him a lifestyle that is a lot better than in Brazil for the same money.
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03-25-23 14:54 #16442
Posts: 39Do Que Voce JZ
SP Recap.
"My time in Sao Paulo has come to an end, so I'm here to share my final experiences and thoughts. ".
Thanks for taking the time JZ to write a very informative post. Much appreciated.
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03-25-23 04:22 #16441
Posts: 254Unleash her wild side
One of my absolute stunners, brazilian magazine model. During negotiation we never talked about doggy style, or BBJ, pictures or anything.
For our first date I only gave her what she wanted: Cameras (girls love interviews), a place where she could make lots of selfies for her insta, a nice hotel, few drinks (we were drunk actually) and she gave me a wild f**k. When I asked her I wanted to f**k her in the ass, she went naked to her room to bring oil, naked! That was fun LOL.
Yeah, silicon tits, god bless her plastic surgeon!
Remember, she's the dish. Not you.