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  1. #16943

    A break from the fiction for an actual TR

    Quote Originally Posted by PussyRiot  [View Original Post]
    Carasao- My favorite. Girls will take R300-350 for half an hour (maybe 45 min) and entry and hotel is R50. It's not the place for people do not like loud / club setting and you can find some gems on this place.

    Scandallo- this place has been reviewed so many times so not sure if anything else can be added. The only thing was that girls that I have been with previously for R500-600, wouldn't budge this time. They all remembered my session with them but advised that the price has changed now. After hearing this feedback, just went to Carasao.
    I find it humorous that the only two clubs offering prostitutes in SP that are regularly mentioned are those two. As if the sprawling, largest city in the Western hemisphere, located on a continent where prostitution is pervasive would have only just two such "Casas Nocturnas" of note? And what makes them so special? Can't say I have been to either, because I spent way too much time reading GP Guia on these matters and the concenscus on these places by the locals is not a flattering one.

    https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.ph...297&start=1650

    As DarkNight Rider, a prolific forista since 2003 recently observed: "Muita mulher, umas 120, maioria com menos de 25 anos, poremmmm 95% andvel prive de 100 reais" (Lots of women, sometimes 120, under 25 years, however 95% on the level of a 100 real prive") and ". Overpriced p krl, mais trap de gringo. (you can guess what the last sentence means). And as another forista pointed out ". O andvel t bem comum, equivalente ou at abaixo muitas CLnicas e prives por a" (the level is common, equivalent or lower than many clinics and prives around there). A coomon gripe with the locals is the cost. "350 a hora + 100 quarto + 50 casa = tristeza. " (350 an hour, 100 for the room, and 50 for admission equals sadness). Yeah, 500 and up for a girl who would be cheap in an ordinary, downscale brothel.

    So a question for all of you "experts" who espouse these places, do you guys know something the actual local guys don't know?

    SP is not my favorite town in Brazil, for reasons that anyone who spent time there would well understand. It's actually an awful place with little to offer given its sheer size. But, I learned quite a few things about it in the past year, since I spent more time there than I wanted and made good use of it. And one thing I learned is that boates are common throughout this city, and most neighborhoods of significance will offer some, if not several in a particular vice zone.

    Pinheiros, argubly the coolest neighborhood in SP, is home to most of the cities best music venues: City Lights, Musica Natura, Rockambole, Bona, the Kingston Club to name the one's I am familiar with. I had also read a comment on GP Guia about it having superior boates for the entertainment of discerning gentlemen. But on my first jaunt into the neighborhood to check out this scene one afternoon, I noticed a bit going on at the intersection of Rua Cardeal Arcoverdo at Rua Cunha Gago. A young woman (actually a girl in her late teens) ran down the sidewalk past me, wearing only a bra top, panties and chinelos with a $100 real note in her hand ran past me and into a shop to get some change. It was pretty daring to occur in broad daylight. I smelled vice. Upon purusing the area around the intersection, I passed many clubs with names like "The Freelancer Club" and "The Love Club" and that confirmed my suspicions. I noticed several suspicious establishments in the area. As I visited the neighborhood at night, I noticed even more obvious "Casas the noite" in the area. I eventually counted nine near that intersection. Even went into a few. Others had guys walking in without any issue, whereas a mainstream nightclub would have couples lined up to get in. Then I discovered a few more places on the other side of Av. Brig. Faria Lima, like the "Love Dance" club, where I noticed the usual telltale signs: a bored "hostess" dressed in her heels, bar and panties, standing in the doorway and chatting with the doorman in broad daylight. The I noticed at least another on the same block. Honestlyh, I can't make a exhaustive TR on the area, as I had a girlfriend hoarding my jizz most nights and P4 P fell by the wayside. Briefly. Even if I did, the result would likely would be people posting obviously ficticious TRs about these places and saying crap like "I went to. But I didn't see anything there. " So, I will leave it up to the more adventurous guys to take the metro to the Faria Lima station and check out the neighborhood for themselves. You won't need to look far.

    Not long afterwards, I took the metro to the Santana station, got off and headed east to Gemeas Massagens (a massage and depilation parlor run by two hot twins) to have my privates waxed. I recommend the place if you do in fact, actually need those types of services (Rua Duarte de Azevedo, 259). With my see you and my 'taint feeling baby soft, I thought I'd check out the neighborhood, which I knew little about. The I looked across the Avenida Cruzeiro do Sol and noticed a orange building with the letters, "The Orange House" painted on it. Normally, the doorman sitting in a chair at the entrance would be the thing that got my attention. But, in this case a lithe, well tattooed woman in her bar, panties and chinelos was standing next to him, chatting. I immediately wondered what else could be found in this neighborhood and only had to look down on the sidewalk and see the typical, card size pamphlet for a "night club" with images of women on them. I checked the address and it was a few blocks over. Walked past the place and there was the usual doorman, sitting in a chair, beckoning me to come inside. I declined as it was only 11 AM and I was also expected to make an appearance at my girlfriend's flat in Bela Vista. I walked around a bit more and noticed another place with a lavicious, larger than life painting of a semi nude woman on the front. It was such and such "night club" and its posted hours were 11 AM - 9 PM. What kind of nightclub opens before noon and closes by 9 PM? A night club for married men, who better have their ass home by 9 PM. That's who.

    Mind you, these are only two of the neighborhoods I got around to exploring in a city with countless neighborhoods. AFAIK, vice districts with nocturnal entertainment are common throughout the greater SP area. However, all the "heroes" and "veterans who dominate this forum seem to be unaware of them. And that is humorous to me, to say the least.

  2. #16942

    Trip Report

    Came back from the trip about a month ago and wanted to share some feedback.

    Nothing really new but hoping it helps some mongers.

    Moema- Always stayed in Vila Olmpia area due to familiarity but Moema neighborhood was great. Stayed next to Ibirapuera mall and it was simply amazing. Nice local restaurants and walking distance to all the Moema clinicas. Only downside was airplane noise but you will get used to it pretty quickly.

    Connection- This place is far but really only about 35 min from Moema area during nighttime. The entry is R50 and R70 after 7 pm Avoid going here on Saturday and recommend visiting on Thursday. It's been few years since I have visited this place and they have done some renovation in the front entrance where it reminds of Scandallo (understand its owned by same people) The room is excellent (R120) as well and girls are happy to take R400.

    Caf Photo- After numerous trips to SP, this was the first time visited this boate. The place is elegant but they just didn't have enough girls. I know many people comment about finger print access but my apt had same thing so it didn't really bother me.

    Abbbora. Simply my favorite Clinica in SP. They open at noon but most of girls don't come in until 1 pm Or 2 pm Each visit, there are at least 10-15 to choose from and sometimes you will find that unicorn (that Scandallo 9 rating). Ran across girl that been with few years back and simply had an amazing time. They open at 11 am On Saturday and closed on Sunday. The rate is R330 and R200 goes to the girl.

    Taj Mahal Spa. Read some reports about this place and tried since it is located in Moema and walking distance. Very nice facility and they will send available girl photos and price (R450 per HR.) when reaching out via Whatsapp. No in-person presentation and tablet viewing only.

    Carasao- My favorite. Girls will take R300-350 for half an hour (maybe 45 min) and entry and hotel is R50. It's not the place for people do not like loud / club setting and you can find some gems on this place.

    Scandallo- this place has been reviewed so many times so not sure if anything else can be added. The only thing was that girls that I have been with previously for R500-600, wouldn't budge this time. They all remembered my session with them but advised that the price has changed now. After hearing this feedback, just went to Carasao.

    Places that open on Sunday- Miruna, Prime (open at 2 pm), Tai maju and club option is Carasao (they were pretty slow on Sunday).

    Bumble dating app- Was hanging out with local Brazilian friend and advised girls use Bumble date app rather than Tinder.

    Lastly, wanted to give a special shout out to SocratesNY as I read your post and review of places religiously when I was in SP. Maybe we will come across a path and share some stories.

  3. #16941
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    ... Most everyone has a preference or a "type". That doesn't make me any different from anyone else. ....
    It's true. I think you said you were in Pattaya and not seeing someone attractive for a long time, right? If that is correct, that is not the norm. I am making noise in Latin America with many Latinas almost daily for the past year. I don't really want to excite you. LOL.

    If you have lived in Medellin or Sao Paulo both for 1 year each. You are welcome to share your experience based on that. Even if they are the same as 10 days. Just say so because it's your actual experience. The OP can also share his experience like you and form his own opinion.

  4. #16940
    Quote Originally Posted by Maelstrom  [View Original Post]
    You need to end this with my own experience.

    This is cap as long as you speak Portuguese with decent convo, arent in short term like a typical 2 week monger. Your chances increases greatly way more than Colombians / Vennies if you're looking for something long term. Lots of single ladies to pick up day game non working girls (gym, coffee shops are easiest. But personally, I'm never in town longer than 4 weeks but I've had good luck getting civvies #s. Venture out to Pinheiros clubs they come in droves, love dudes that make the first move.
    And yes from my own exp. Brasileras fuck better than the aforementioned. Pornstar + GFE experience man do they love to deep french kiss with the anal. Just my experience.
    I think it also often depends on where in Brazil they're from. I for example found women from Minas to be a bit too reserved for my liking. They are nice for sure, but Brazilians are usually nice. I just find Mineiras to be much more practical than other Brasileiras for some reason. Cariocas & Paolistas are always the surest bet in their own ways. Paolistas know their staff, and Cariocas are just special. They could make you feel like life is beautiful every day you're with them.

    Ladies from Brazilian south are always a toss-up ime; I had much better luck with Bahianas and other Nordestinas.

    Obviously this all is gross overgeneralization and you're opt to finds stars or duds among any of them.

    Right now I'm in with one amazing UTR PYT from Ceara here in puritanland. Great kisser, effs back and twerks while doing it. Cute, a bit on a plump side though, but wonderful personality, and total Amerindian too, looks effing exotic as whole hell.

  5. #16939

    Noise

    Quote Originally Posted by Nounce  [View Original Post]
    I would say that means very little in this case. By The Cane's own admission, he has very strong bias toward certain type of women so it does not matter how many countries he has travelled. Only he can define his own that I agree but it can't be generalized because the strong bias. OP has spent one year each in the two cities. I think that gave him more insight and different perspective.
    No, he tried to assert that it only "seems" that Brazilian women are the best because they are "exotic". My point is that I have been with exotic women around the world from Paraguay to Poland to the Philippines. On one level you're right in that it's not simply how many countries one has been to. It's how many women you've had in those countries. I stopped counting a couple of decades ago. And what are you saying? Most everyone has a preference or a "type". That doesn't make me any different from anyone else. And that doesn't necessarily mean that one hasn't fucked all kinds of types, which is exactly what I have done with very different types of women on 5 continents. Some of which (continents) I have actually lived on for years at a time. So how does living in a couple of places for a year at a time offer more perspective than that? Again, I don't like Brazilian women the best because their "exotic nature" has cast a spell upon me. No, I enjoy being with them the most because in my vast and worldly experience "fucking with" exotic women around the world, I have found that no doubt the Brazilian girls satisfy me sexually the most. It's like you're making noise just because you can.

  6. #16938
    Quote Originally Posted by DougBlye  [View Original Post]
    ... I am flying in and out of GRU so what is a good neighborhood or hotel to be in close proximity of Scandallos and other clubs like that...
    I think you can look up the area around Renaissance Sao Paulo Hotel. The area to the east is better than the area to the west. You can just Uber to Scandallo.

  7. #16937
    Quote Originally Posted by WayneRoberts  [View Original Post]
    I have to agree to this. I'm not up to 50 countries but I am beyond 30 now so been around the traps a lot.....
    I would say that means very little in this case. By The Cane's own admission, he has very strong bias toward certain type of women so it does not matter how many countries he has travelled. Only he can define his own that I agree but it can't be generalized because the strong bias.

    OP has spent one year each in the two cities. I think that gave him more insight and different perspective.

  8. #16936

    Help for an upcoming visit

    I will be in Sao Paulo in a few weeks and have two days of free time. First time in Brazil and don't speak a word of Portuguese but have been to 26 countries so not intimidated to get around in a foreign country. I am flying in and out of GRU so what is a good neighborhood or hotel to be in close proximity of Scandallos and other clubs like that. I like the strip club scene but I also want to bring some girls back to my room for overnight. Any ideas on price for a top shelf girl and any best agencies to contact? Any help is much appreciated.

  9. #16935
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    Although you call yourself "Messiah" nobody gets to define my reality or tell me what my lived experience has been. I've traveled to over 50 countries on 5 continents and fucked many exotic women around the world. And for me nobody does it better than a Brasilera (especially anal). And I didn't say they "like" me. I said they fuck me the best. Big difference. I ask again to anyone who knows from experience. What's your general feeling on the service standards in Montreal as compared to Brazil (and other major mongering destinations)?
    I have to agree to this. I'm not up to 50 countries but I am beyond 30 now so been around the traps a lot.

    Brazilian women on average are a serious notch up. Its rare to have an average or disappointing performance out of them, especially if you hit it off with them a bit.

  10. #16934
    Quote Originally Posted by Messiah69  [View Original Post]
    The idea that Brasileiras fuck better than other nationalities is a myth. Granted there are some really good ones (like anywhere else). But I think it's just the exotic nature of the people, their mixed look, language and culture that makes them exciting to be with. Not necessarily or always the sex sessions themselves.

    I mean there's only so many ways you can have sex. Or so much skill you can apply.

    I stayed in Sao Paulo and Medellin for 1 year each. And although I still find myself drawn to the Brazilian women more. I find the Colombianas and Venezolanas are more giving of themselves in terms of intimacy.

    You're more likely to get bareback sex from the Colombians and the Venezuelans. They're more likely to fall in love with you if at all.

    All this is reflected in the sex. And God knows they're not lacking in looks and hot bodies.

    I find the Brasileiras are way too tribal and obsessed with their own men to actually be truly intimate with foreigners.

    You might think they're passionate about you and that they really like you. But if you stay long enough, the truth of how they really feel about you will reveal itself.

    The Brazilians I've known in Japan are the same.
    You need to end this with my own experience.

    This is cap as long as you speak Portuguese with decent convo, arent in short term like a typical 2 week monger. Your chances increases greatly way more than Colombians / Vennies if you're looking for something long term. Lots of single ladies to pick up day game non working girls (gym, coffee shops are easiest. But personally, I'm never in town longer than 4 weeks but I've had good luck getting civvies #s. Venture out to Pinheiros clubs they come in droves, love dudes that make the first move.
    And yes from my own exp. Brazileras fuck better than the aforementioned. Pornstar + GFE experience man do they love to deep french kiss with the anal. Just my experience.

  11. #16933
    Quote Originally Posted by DZone  [View Original Post]
    Rubber sucks, but going bareback with GPS for me is careless as fuk.
    I don't think there is a man alive who prefers coitus with rubbers to that without. However, I do not go bare with ladies of the night due to safety reasons.

  12. #16932
    Campinas is not only university town as Bauru, also in the interior of SP. Campinas is an important industry pole.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    No man, you don't look for a taxi in SP. He wouldn't know much about Campinas street scene anyway. You try to hook up with local taxi driver in Campinas. Use google if you need to communicate. I never had any problems in Brazil with it. There is always a chance I guess but Campinas is a university town so I don't know.

  13. #16931
    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Yea, find a taxi / uber driver to show you around.

    I didn't do that when I hit Campinas 20 years ago or so and didn't get to see any of this. What a pity. I remember there were also few more exclusive clubs in Centro claiming to host all Campinas University' female students. LOL.
    Quote Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234  [View Original Post]
    Taxi from Sao Paulo (and cheap hotel or go with them to their "rooms" LOL stay overnight in the city. Seems they are not looking to rob anyone. Only speaking English, will google work? Any dangers?
    No man, you don't look for a taxi in SP. He wouldn't know much about Campinas street scene anyway. You try to hook up with local taxi driver in Campinas. Use google if you need to communicate. I never had any problems in Brazil with it. There is always a chance I guess but Campinas is a university town so I don't know.

    Dangers? I mean you're getting into a cab with someone you don't know. I guess there is always a chance, eh? Carry a pepper spray just in case. I always do. Bring it with me on a key chain. Never had problems in that regard with customs no matter where I went. As I said I have it on key chain so it looks pretty inconspicuous.

  14. #16930

    Shocking I like it

    Quote Originally Posted by Nrlmus  [View Original Post]
    Yea, find a taxi / uber driver to show you around.

    I didn't do that when I hit Campinas 20 years ago or so and didn't get to see any of this. What a pity. I remember there were also few more exclusive clubs in Centro claiming to host all Campinas University' female students. LOL.
    Taxi from Sao Paulo (and cheap hotel or go with them to their "rooms" LOL stay overnight in the city. Seems they are not looking to rob anyone. Only speaking English, will google work? Any dangers?

  15. #16929
    Last couple of days in SP and I contacted Micaela Molina who I had on my radar and saw it mentioned here as well. Took her more than a day to answer but I was able to see her on my last day in the morning. She quoted me are $750 which is steep. Recently I saw someone mention they paid are $600 in GP Guia (just a month ago). So I suspect she saw my US number and bumped the price a little. In dollars it's just $25 difference so I didn't bother because her reviews were good. I wanted to see her because she is a deep throat / face fuck specialist. And man. I was not disappointed.

    She is in an apartment just across an Avenue from Moema. She is a jambo skin, slim morena. Very nice girl (mid 20's). She can deep throat the whole session if you want. Seems like she enjoys that more than sex itself. Says she can deep throat 10 inches but it has to be in certain positions.

    She doesn't see a lot of guys because she says she is financially well through other means. She doesn't depend on going GP work as she used to. But if you have chance to session with her I recommend. Very nice personality as well. You do have to put a 50% non-refundable deposit before you visit. But she is trustworthy.

    Unfortunately I didn't get to see Melissa Sayuri before I left. Next time I will try to hit that up.

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