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06-23-21 05:07 #12676
Posts: 12It seems to be very difficult to find a airbnb that allows guests. Does anyone have some recommendations that allow it?
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06-23-21 04:11 #12675
Posts: 449Originally Posted by Bearsi [View Original Post]
The next couple of times I avoided Scandello due to covid restrictions and just used PA. Still in contact with those girls and they keep asking when I am going to be in SP next.
My next trip is mid August and I have three days in SP so I plan on hitting up Scandello the first night and seeing what I can take home. According to my standards of course and barring any covid restrictions. This time, I am going to hang out and see if I can find a Japa. Those seem to be more of a challenge and I like a challenge.
Last time, I did too much in Rio in one night and I think it threw me off and by he time I got to SP, I just wasn't into the girl I was with because I think I was sexed out. This time, I plan on taking it easy in rio and rocking in Scandello.
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06-23-21 01:35 #12674
Posts: 217Thoughts? Love to hear them
Originally Posted by Anaggie [View Original Post]
I and some others have expressed some uneasiness about negotiating. It does take away some charm to the magic but I've always paid 500-600 BRL in Scandallo. I guess I personally don't go for the "hot model" type with all the surgery and tattoos. Nothing wrong with that as I do like it occasionally but I do like the natural girl next door look and usually those girls charge or don't negotiate that high since they know most guys go for the model girls and so they go for the 500 since they are also at a disadvantage because a guy can just look around and get any other 50+ girls in the club.
Most of these GND girls don't smoke or drink (just one or two at most) and I like that as cigarette / beer breath is a turn off for me personally.
I found that if you wait til 4 am or close to almost closing time (5 am) they'll take 500 no questions since they realistically won't be able to land another guy before closing time. I decided to go with a girl at 4:20 or so and they give you a yellow wristband so the staff know you sessioned late when you get out and you still get your 1 HR.
Also if you are lucky and the girl likes you or she actually does it just for fun you can get away for as low as 300 BRL (read a few posts from some lucky posters a few hundred pages ago so it can happen, not likely but luck favors the bold and brave).
Another thing.
When I went in January I didn't really speak to most of the girls at scadallo. I would just walk around and sit down at the restaurant and see the girls coming in and look for the one I wanted.
Other's can chime in on their thoughts but I didn't want to waste anyone's time just chatting up with a girl if I knew I wasn't 100% about the girl (from looks anyhow).
I didn't want to get any sob stories or pushy remarks if I ended up not sessioning with said girl and as a student of economics I don't want to deprive them of any actual customers while we're having our little chat. I would often see local brazilian guys talking to 2 or 4 girls at a time at a table but I guess that makes more sense to the girls since these guy can come back often so they don't mind chatting up to a guy who can be coming weekly compared to a foreigner who's only in town for a week. I remember coming back my third night at scandallo and none of the girls really piqued my interest so I walked over to this petite japa girl I sessioned with on my first night and told her if she wanted to chat a little and get some appetizer at the restaurant but she declined as she said she was working. Of course she didn't mind talking to a bazilian guy with 4 other girls who ended up not sessioning with any of them after like 2 hours.
One girl came up to me while I was eating at the restaurant asking if she can sit down and talk a bit. She was pretty but she seemed upset and I felt like I was going to get the sob stories and tear works and I was just trying to relax and eat in peace so I told her I was ok.
Another girl came up to me (twice) while I was just looking at the girls walking by at the club area deciding which girl I wanted and asked me if I just liked looking at girls like it was a crime LOL I was just drinking my coke and checking up on my stocks but it did seem pretty weird for her to call me out like that.
I guess I could have gotten a few girls zapp instead of just playing the waiting game but from my own personal experience and a few other posters, Sampa girls can be kinda cold as the few numbers I got from SP went dark and the one girl who I recently contacted trying to reconnect when I get back in Sep keeps making lame excuses like I lost my phone for 11 days and the texting is super generic.
Compared to the carioca girls who I've kept in contact with, they've been super warm and always sending pics and waiting for my arrival! I've tried to get a few back here in miami since I got a penthouse in south beach but apparently brazilians can't enter the US because of the Covid numbers.
Some posters have had great experiences with SP girls who didn't charge alot, were super friendly and traveled with so YMMV.
I'll get more numbers this time around and with the help of some local posters (PM if you'll be there in Sep, my porto is so rusty) I hope to try some non-pros (also is Hinge popular in Brazil like it is in the US or is tinder / bumble / okcupid more popular?
I'll up my reports when I get back as I've noticed alot of posters like a nice writer-eseque journal entry from a famous author with lots of wits and details type of reports and I'd be happy to oblige as I like to write as a hobby.
I just got caught up with currency exchange / lockdown / mistranslations and all the other non sense as a first timer coming to this great nation.
Keep up the good report and looking forward to people's thoughts.
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06-23-21 01:10 #12673
Posts: 245Originally Posted by Palcon [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
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06-22-21 22:45 #12672
Posts: 112Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]
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06-22-21 15:01 #12671
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by ShawMan74 [View Original Post]
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06-22-21 14:31 #12670
Posts: 5662Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean [View Original Post]
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06-22-21 08:38 #12669
Posts: 245Good Reportage - Final thoughts on Brazil
Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean [View Original Post]
Note. As mentioned there is no need to exchange money at the Airport. Anyone can get from GRU airport to your hotel cashless via UBER or use credit card at the Guarucoop Taxi Stand. Then find appropriate ATM for funds.
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06-22-21 05:05 #12668
Posts: 112Originally Posted by SinfullyKorean [View Original Post]
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06-22-21 04:49 #12667
Posts: 459100% agree
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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06-22-21 03:56 #12666
Posts: 6429Decisions
Originally Posted by Palcon [View Original Post]
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06-22-21 03:43 #12665
Posts: 154Tbh
Originally Posted by Palcon [View Original Post]
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06-22-21 03:35 #12664
Posts: 112Originally Posted by ShawMan74 [View Original Post]
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06-21-21 17:39 #12663
Posts: 13Point break
Just returned from another week in Sao Paulo.
I stayed in Itaim Bibi, Transamerica Classic Victoria hotel. I ad ladies visit me at the hotel and they did need to sign in but during my late night rendezvous the gut working the desk would just wink and let her go up when I met them in the lobby. I made sure to tip him well when I left. Location was great for some really good food options in walking distance. Modern Momma Osteria is a great place for Italian food. No reservations but the vibe is good inside and out a lot of attractive girls waiting to get in and its great for couples or a date night. That 4 block radius has a Soho, NYC vibe at night IMO. While waiting for my table at Modern I went a good 5 minutes forgetting that I'm still in Brazil but I snapped out of that real quick.
Bradesco bank, Carrefour, supermarkets, 2 gelato places, and other hotels all really clumped together in a nice neighborhood with little boutiques for shopping etc. My favorite area that I have stayed in so far.
Private55 browsing and I decided to zap Camila to see if she was available. Beach blonde from Rio staying in Jardins but I asked her to come to me. I told her to come casual and she sure did LOL. Sneakers, no makeup and a denim romper and as soon as she walked in she tackled me. Half because she was cold and half because during the zap back and forth we were trading memes before she arrived. I always ty to break the ice with meme's with the younger ones. She is a talker though so I had to keep the agenda on track in certain spots to get her to stop talking at times LOL but even then talking with her was really fun and she speaks a little English.
After some small talk about music and we play danced a little and then proceeded to the bedroom. She definitely aims to please but I could tell she needs to be comfortable first. Beautiful naked tanned body with no enhancements from yoga and beach life. Physically she gives as much as she takes so the sex was amazing. She stayed for two hours and we grabbed lunch after.
She didn't get any of the point break references of course. Before her time LOL.
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06-21-21 08:20 #12662
Posts: 459Final thoughts on Brazil
I've written plenty on the sessions I had, so in this post, I'll share my experience on planning the trip and the overall expenses. The people are some of the friendliest (been to Korea, Japan, Mexico, Canada, Thailand, and Vietnam). I thought I'd see machismo and even racism (because it's so common in the US), but I hardly noticed it. At the very least, learn these two phrases: Obrigado (thank you) and Desculpa (I'm sorry, or excuse me).
Flights
RT from LAX to SP was $534.50 on United, purchased for 42,758 chase rewards points. Chase also gave me 10% off on my hotel booking because I bought the plane ticket with points. The flight to and from SP via United was VERY pleasant. To SP, flight was about 35% capacity. I had a 3 seat window row all to myself for 10 hrs. On the way back, I had a 2 seat window row to myself for 9 hrs.
RT from SP to Rio was $40 airfare and $12 checked bag each way (which I didn't really need) for a total of $64. Plan on booking at least 3 weeks in advance for the best rates. $50 RT seems to be the regular price. For domestic flights, plan on getting to the airport about 1 to 1. 5 hrs in advance in case of language barriers, getting lost, security check, etc. I have this strange anxiety and stress until I pass security checks.
Cash Exchange
You probably won't need cash right away (unless you're taking a taxi, which everyone discourages). If you DO want to exchange it at the airport for a little peace of mind, be prepared to lose 25% value on your conversion rate.
Hotels
Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel
$38 a night after fees in a Double Deluxe Executive suite. Bourbon Convention Ibirapuera Hotel was SUPER convenient. Highly recommended for first time visitors. Internet speed was decent: 35 Mbps down, 10 Mbps up. Sound proofing was the best out of the 3 hotels I stayed in (Astoria in Rio, Tsue Palace in SP). It's within walking distance from 6 clinicas and club and next to the Ibirapuera mall. Ibirapuera mall has lots of shops, including 3 drug stores (you can get a PCR or antigen test on the 2nd floor: Drogaria Sao Paulo) and a currency exchange shop on the 3rd floor next to Itau bank. VIVO phone store (along with an English speaking manager) are also on the 3rd floor.
Astoria Palace (Copacabana)
$50 per night after fees. This hotel is in a very convenient location. It has the Copacabana club, MAB's, and Dolce Vita all within walking distance. Internet speed was slightly lower than Bourbon's. Breakfast was included, and I enjoyed it 2 days out of 4. They serve coffee, juices, fruits, yogurt, cereal, pastries (including the cheese bread), sausages, scrambled eggs, and quiche.
But you can tell the hotel's pretty old. Rooms are very small. It had an old mildew smell when I walked in. And the worst thing was the noise. At first, I was on the 6th floor and I could hear all the noise from the restaurants outside until about 12-1 AM. The next day, I told them about the noise and they moved me to the 13th floor (top most floor of the hotel rooms). Great, friendly service. But, now I could hear the elevator clanking every time it moved. It sounded like gym weights slamming against each other, until 1 AM-2 AM. One inconvenience was trying to find a market close by.
Tsue Palace Hotel
$40 per night. Found this place via AirBnb and just a few blocks away from the Bourbon hotel. It was nice and cozy. It has a a separated bedroom and living room, as well as a balcony. Internet was SUPER slow, 2 Mbps down and. 5 up. I asked the front desk what's up, and they told me that if I book via the hotel, the speed's faster (guess the hotel managed rooms are closer to the access point). Walls are very thin. I think they just don't have the insulation that blocks out noise. Instead, the walls are concrete and carry noise very well.
Lots of WGs seem to live here. Monthly rent is about R4000. I believe this includes housekeeping, internet, and utilities. Another ISGer told me he saw lots of WGs walking in and out as he sat in the lobby, when he stayed at Tsue Palace for a month. And as I was having dinner on my last day in SP at the restaurant next door (Terra Fruta), that buddy and I saw a very cute girl at another table. He asked her to join us for a bit. Turns out she also lived at Tsue Palace and told us she'll be headed to Scandallo after dinner. As I'm interested in short term leases, I asked her how much the rent is and she says R4100 per mo. I also verified later with the receptionist, who told me R4080 per mo.
Phone
You won't be able to get a new line at the airport, unless you have a CPF number. I had to go to the Ibirapuera mall, 3rd floor. VIVO for $10/ mo with 5 GB data. But my data wasn't available for 2 days. This is a major inconvenience since almost everything you need to do is with data (eg. Uber, google translate, scanning QR code and online menus). You can use Google translate offline mode. But it's easier to have the app automatically transcribe AND translate for you, without needing to type everything in (can you imagine asking someone to type in their answers for you on your phone? Some members have suggested Google Fi. But Google Fi service was not as good as Verizon for me in the US. Also, VIVO's equivalent plan from Google Fi would cost me $70 ($20 base + $50 for 5 GB data) vs VIVO's $10. Data recharge on VIVO is also relatively cheap. Anyways, once you get over the initial inconvenience, it works great.
Uber
Cost me $114 for 2 weeks. The most expensive trips were to the international airport ($10-$25) and Connection ($6-8) each way. Make sure you keep the windows rolled down and wear a mask inside UBER. Before you book your ride, there's an "agreement" clause in the app saying that you'll keep the window open (whenever possible) and you'll wear a mask. Drivers will rate you poorly if you don't.
Food
If you're eating in a restaurant every day, it'll probably cost you about $10-$20 per meal. $20 would be splurging. I found most of the food to be ok, nothing spectacular. Unfortunately, I don't think I tried any ethnic Brazilian foods this time.