Sao Paulo Reports

[The Cane]

I'm not saying it is wrong or right but he has credibility.

And he would have had even more credibility if he had noted that many of those cheaper places would be seen as squalid and / or dirty by many a monger reading reports on this site (like Termas 502). There are plenty of guys who go off on a vacation who don't want to spend it standing up fucking in a place where they don't even want to take their shoes off. I'm not saying all the cheap places are like that, but it's well known that many of them are. I think the clinicas of Sao Paulo have a better reputation for cleanliness than the prives of Rio de Janeiro do overall. At least he did note that one reason why some don't session in the Tier 1 termas is because they can't afford it. Lots of guy who patronize the cheaper places don't want to admit that. But it's true.

[Vagabundo1]

This is straight from the Bubba Boy guide, a ISG member who spent 10 years in Brazil:

"An interesting point: The locals guys tend to go to Termas, primarily to drink and maybe grab a cheap feel, or several cheap feels. The majority won't take a girl to a cabine at all, they may or not be able to afford it, but know they can find something way cheaper elsewhere.

The longer I spend in Rio, the more I head to the cheaper places and the prives, basically you can find some real gems for a fraction of the price of the expensive places. The only downside is that the cheaper places tend to have less of a choice, this can be overcome by going to 2 or 3 on the same night. Entrance is generally are $ 10 to are $ 20 and the girl maybe are $ 100, hence with a bit of work you can bang some one as hot or even hotter than at the expensive places for just are $ 150, half the price and twice the fun! I am amazed that I have found some girls that are hotter than even the hottest "L'Uomo-Centaurus-Barbarelas" GDP's and for only are $120 or so. Most if not all of these places except cash only and in the local currency. English is a lot less common."

I'm not saying it is wrong or right but he has credibility.

No! The point is individuals spend what they want given the perceived value proposition at that time.

[The Critic]

If I'm worried that I spent too much that's one thing. But if somebody else is worried that I spent too much, well that's quite another LOL! We all have spending limits and budgets we need to keep in mind. It's just that once I've set mine according to my own personal requirements, I don't care what somebody else thinks about that. From the very first moment that I took on this hobby, I have 100% lived by the following. Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid!

Wish I said it first. LOL!

[The Critic]

The point is not that spending any particular amount is wrong, but that it does not always equate to good sex or better sex.

No! The point is individuals spend what they want given the perceived value proposition at that time. And if they want to post said amount they should not be criticized for it. Some members have deep pockets, Some do not. Some are frequent visitors or can live in country for weeks / months on end and others once in a lifetime or infrequent visitors. That is a huge determinant on spend rate. Money has never been a determinant to good sex or better sex in any P4 P situation especially when you don't know the providers mindset / motivation for being in the business in the first place and you never will.

At some point damn near every other day someone is asking about rates. Some rates are relatively fixed and some are not. However, there is a consensus of average rates (and members respond often what those rates are for those who take the time to RTFF) and then there are those who funds allow them at any given time to pay above or below the average rate.

See the bubba boy report, search for good sex, search for mini relationships.

Don't need to. Also, my commentary is not related to above mentioned report, so I don't know why is being attributed my comment.

How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.

None! Since I don't care to spend my money that way. Again I don't know why is being attributed my comment.

[ShawMan74]

I'll be in SP one day before you. I plan on visiting Scandallo and Connections on Thurs and Fri. Hit me up if you want to hang out. I'll probably be with at least 1 other ISGer. And I think I mentioned this earlier, but I think the hottest clinicas in SP are Prime and Abbobora.

I got no recommendations on a driver / guide. Is that for tourist or monger stuff? I don't think Sao Paulo is much of a tourist destination. Seems more like a financial / business district to me.

For sure, I'll hit you up when I'm there. I would like a reliable all-in-one driver / guide. Even if SP isn't much for tourism, I'm sure there's cigar bars, neat little cafes, raver clubs, or something. Of course a well versed driver can not only hook me up with the best mongering but also help insure my safety and answer any questions. I have a guy in Cali, medellin, rio, and Kiev.

[SinfullyKorean]

I'm going to be in SP for a week starting thurs, can't wait to contribute and hang with you guys for a bit. I'm staying in campo belo, and I saw the map. With all that being said, does anyone have a solid recommend for a driver / guide? THANKS!

BTW, after SP I'm going to rio for a week, and later this summer to Kiev! I already have my hookups in both places so if anyone wants a recommend, hit me up.

I'll be in SP one day before you. I plan on visiting Scandallo and Connections on Thurs and Fri. Hit me up if you want to hang out. I'll probably be with at least 1 other ISGer. And I think I mentioned this earlier, but I think the hottest clinicas in SP are Prime and Abbobora.

I got no recommendations on a driver / guide. Is that for tourist or monger stuff? I don't think Sao Paulo is much of a tourist destination. Seems more like a financial / business district to me.

[ShawMan74]

Hey guys, just want to introduce myself. I posted in the general info already, I'm new to this board but not to the forum or to Brazil (check my post history). I'm going to be in SP for a week starting thurs, can't wait to contribute and hang with you guys for a bit. I'm staying in campo belo, and I saw the map. With all that being said, does anyone have a solid recommend for a driver / guide? THANKS!

BTW, after SP I'm going to rio for a week, and later this summer to Kiev! I already have my hookups in both places so if anyone wants a recommend, hit me up.

[SamaRiding]

It knew it was wishful thinking but I just wanted to check to make sure.

I know this belongs in the FKK section but since people were asking here. Sharks has a holiday bonus for the girls who work the entire period from Christmas to New Years Eve, which essentially covers the girls' fees for that week. So Sharks is pretty much at full strength during this time. I did that week in Sharks several year ago and had a great time. It was fun to ring in the new year with a bunch of naked girls around you. The Romanian girls then go home afterwards to celebrate orthodox Christmas which is usually in mid Jan.

[Lalabo]

So don't be hard-headed and not listen. Don't do it! Just like in Europe, the girls have family and friends and want to enjoy the holiday season just like everybody else.

It knew it was wishful thinking but I just wanted to check to make sure.

[Hobbying]

I can't speak for Rio or SP specifically, but I was in Colombia right after Christmas and during New Year (see my reports from this past January). In South America, there is still a very strong religious culture present, and with that comes significant family ties. Girls go home. Quality and quantity is much lower during the holiday season. In Latin American countries, there are even religious holidays after the New Year so it doesn't pick up again until around the January 15 timeframe.

That is true in BR also. There is a saying in BR that work doesn't start until after Carnaval. But boates remain open except for Christmas and new years. Maybe in normal year but w / the pandemic its hard to know and plus in SP the gov declared holidays early to keep people home but will make up for it later.

Brazil weekly avg 80 k cases a day with 15% fully vaccinated. New normal will not be until end of the year.

[Combo]

I stand corrected and also wish I had known that before I went to Bogota earlier this past year!

Well this last year la Feria didn't happen (or it took place "virtually" which is useless) so it probably wasn't that great. But in normal times, la Feria starts on the night of Dec 25 and finishes before the NY. The city is alive like no other time. Tons of action and the women, both pro and non-pro, want to party and fuck.

[TiaVoyage25]

The one exception is Cali, where between Christmas and NY is the absolute best time.

I stand corrected and also wish I had known that before I went to Bogota earlier this past year!

[Combo]

I can't speak for Rio or SP specifically, but I was in Colombia right after Christmas and during New Year (see my reports from this past January). In South America, there is still a very strong religious culture present, and with that comes significant family ties. Girls go home. Quality and quantity is much lower during the holiday season. In Latin American countries, there are even religious holidays after the New Year so it doesn't pick up again until around the January 15 timeframe.

The one exception is Cali, where between Christmas and NY is the absolute best time.

[TiaVoyage25]

So don't be hard-headed and not listen. Don't do it! Just like in Europe, the girls have family and friends and want to enjoy the holiday season just like everybody else.

I can't speak for Rio or SP specifically, but I was in Colombia right after Christmas and during New Year (see my reports from this past January). In South America, there is still a very strong religious culture present, and with that comes significant family ties. Girls go home. Quality and quantity is much lower during the holiday season. In Latin American countries, there are even religious holidays after the New Year so it doesn't pick up again until around the January 15 timeframe.

[Vagabundo1]

The only thing I like more is hanging out with 18 year olds 24/7. At buzios, arrail, ihla, Petropolis. Don't want a lifetime, or kids, or even months, just 2 days every few weeks, and 2-3 pernoites a week. Need to drop them when they get in their early 20's, and recruit new 18 and 19 yo's.

Seriously, am I the only guy that likes hanging with 23 year old hotties 24x7? Cuz damn I do adore it!.