Sao Paulo Reports

[Stinky Squid]

Hey Stinky
I too have been curious about Bernardelli 119. Most here seem to think it is a bait and switch type place as those woman we see using that address on Photoacom won't actually be there when one arrives for their session, and will be offered other girls.

I am on the fence as to go, as it is a hike for me, and don't want to get there expecting to meet a hottie from the site only to be offered something else. But the hotness of the girls advertising with that address is enticing.

I would not expetct any of them to be there, but rather just go and see what lineup they have. I just did a mass contact campaign to dozens of these and the first challenge is getting them to respond at all. Especially today on Mother's day. Brazilians take their Foobar day very seriously. I remember when I first set foot on Brazil it was mother's day and I struggled to get anyone to come and it wasn't good. My 12 year Brazil anniversary, need to accomplish something special today. So I messaged like 50 or so with a special request. Now we'll see what comes in until the early afternoon when I will commit. I'd be more than willing to go back to Santana and try this address.

[Anaggie]

Let's just get the math worked out.

3200 for 4 different girls in one night at 4 x4 . One session was a threesome in a bigger suite and that also included all the drinks for myself and the girls who I was talking with. All BBFS sessions except the first one which I had to get out of the way to blow the first wad.

The buzios chick was THREE nights (one in RJ and two in Buzios) for $800 not including lodging which I would have to pay for whether in SP / Rio / Buzios so that is a sunk cost. She was definitely an 8+ from Scandello and it was sex on demand all weekend.

So. Still haven't hit 2 k per night.

Am I paying more than you? OF COURSE. . You fucking live there. That has been agreed on this board over and over again. And in your favor. The issue is that you keep telling people how to do it YOUR way as if that is the only way.

Live and let live. My man.

I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:

"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. ".

Can't go back and edit. Since it just hit me. I am taking the 2 k per night as 2 k for one girl per night. VB might mean it as spending 2 k in one night. If that is case, then definitely I am guilty of thag .. in more ways than one😜

[The Cane]

I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:

"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own..

Very good advice when it comes to mongering, or anything else for that matter.

[Anaggie]

One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.

How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.

Agreed. Maybe I am not making the right comparison. I am sure they all have started from the bottom but they have become more cultured and classy. I just don't see that in the Rio boates. It is the same quality year in year out. In fact, I feel it has gotten worse lately. I now use rio as a place to blow the first pent up load and then use SP to truly enjoy the women. Plus, I need to maintain my relationship with my agent and he likes taking me to 4 X4 so there is that.

[Anaggie]

With all respect, Senor Anaggie, according to your own reports, you've paid 3200 reais for 4 girls in 8 hours at 4 x4, you've paid a girl 2000 reais per night (gave her a iphone which cost 800 USD in the states for 2 nights) to take her to buzios, not counting the cost of lodging. I list the places I go very often in both SP and RJ -- the tier 1 clinicas and prives, which are 250 meters from 4 x4, and the cost is 150 r per hour or 250 per hour in RJ. It's easy to find the list of the prives / clinicas from my reports, or you can go to gparena.net and click on prives. I'm doing the same girls from 4 x4 and tier 1 termas, but I never pay more than 500 are a night, and some of them I do for 25 pernoites for months, basically because I live here, and I don't session in the termas, rather I just get them back to my place.

A very large percentage of the girls in 4 x4 are from favelas, and a large number of the girls from tier 1 termas go to Mosaico, ie, Vila Mimosa, at midnight if they haven't made enough money, and their cost per fuck goes down by half (from 400 per hour to 200 per hour). Even the girls from out of town, like Penelope, who work at 4 x4 end up going into favelas to socialize. Moreover, Copacabana, where most mongers stay, is so dangerous because it is in a favela or many of them.

Let's just get the math worked out.

3200 for 4 different girls in one night at 4 x4 . One session was a threesome in a bigger suite and that also included all the drinks for myself and the girls who I was talking with. All BBFS sessions except the first one which I had to get out of the way to blow the first wad.

The buzios chick was THREE nights (one in RJ and two in Buzios) for $800 not including lodging which I would have to pay for whether in SP / Rio / Buzios so that is a sunk cost. She was definitely an 8+ from Scandello and it was sex on demand all weekend.

So. Still haven't hit 2 k per night.

Am I paying more than you? OF COURSE. . You fucking live there. That has been agreed on this board over and over again. And in your favor. The issue is that you keep telling people how to do it YOUR way as if that is the only way.

Live and let live. My man.

I follow a philosophy that Bruce Lee followed whenever you learn something or get new information:

"Adapt what is useful, reject what is useless, and add what is specifically your own. ".

[Nounce]

There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP...

One will pay more when one's time is worth more because if you can convert time to money he will save money when he pays for the convenience to save time. That is how I look at it.

How do you tell what is low class in Scandallo? I don't think you can. Although I think I know what you mean but you are not making the right comparison in this case based on your reason. Many girls starting out from the Scandello shared apartment nearby. Those girls fit into your low class description but do you not pick these girls if they tell you where they live? They also evolve so eventually they may have an apartment on their own, and that makes them high class? I have sat between these girls and heard them bad mouth other girls from time to time. One time a girl mentioned she lived in an apartment on her own, and the other girl asked her to share her apartment with her. The other girl was actually way hotter than the girl with apartment. Personally, I will pick the hotter girl. I probably can get her cheaper too.

[Vagabundo1]

There's a map from the economist. It has a section titled the location of favelas.

There are 3 enlargements.

Copa, which is in the middle of favelas, where most mongers, including Senor Anaggie stay. It's right there in your reports.

Centro / 4 x 4, in the middle of favelas.

Barra the Tijuca, which is not in favelas, in fact is the only area in Rio outside of the favelas.

https://www.economist.com/the-americ...y-black-people

There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the choice of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.

I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.

[Vagabundo1]

With all respect, Senor Anaggie, according to your own reports, you've paid 3200 reais for 4 girls in 8 hours at 4 x4, you've paid a girl 2000 reais per night (gave her a iphone which cost 800 USD in the states for 2 nights) to take her to buzios, not counting the cost of lodging. I list the places I go very often in both SP and RJ -- the tier 1 clinicas and prives, which are 250 meters from 4 x4, and the cost is 150 r per hour or 250 per hour in RJ. It's easy to find the list of the prives / clinicas from my reports, or you can go to gparena.net and click on prives. I'm doing the same girls from 4 x4 and tier 1 termas, but I never pay more than 500 are a night, and some of them I do for 25 pernoites for months, basically because I live here, and I don't session in the termas, rather I just get them back to my place.

A very large percentage of the girls in 4 x4 are from favelas, and a large number of the girls from tier 1 termas go to Mosaico, ie, Vila Mimosa, at midnight if they haven't made enough money, and their cost per fuck goes down by half (from 400 per hour to 200 per hour). Even the girls from out of town, like Penelope, who work at 4 x4 end up going into favelas to socialize. Moreover, Copacabana, where most mongers stay, is so dangerous because it is in a favela or many of them.

There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the CHOICE of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.

I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.

[Anaggie]

To the list, I would add.

The bombeiro shorts, which internash also got. They are super comfortable. And a bombeiro civil badge on a chain.

Even the least threatening ISGer I know here carries a blade. I would just suggest finding a good place to have it sharpened.

There's a logical list of escalation of force, all for defense.

A camera -- most criminals will go the other direction when photographed.

A smart phone to call uber, and the cops (190 in Rio, 192 for emergency medical, 193 for bombeiro). Knowing the numbers of local and your home company law enforcement who carry guns. Talking to your wingmen, even if only briefly -- if we run into a problem, call uber.

A flashlight.

The taser in the flashlight.

Leather gloves ($25 reais at casa de bombeiro).

I have been out with other ISGers with extensive MMA credentials who are victims of having their cell phones stolen at gunpoint in SP (not something I have heard of in RJ). While I respect your view, I am just saying that in the 6 seconds it takes for that thief coming down a business avenue in SP to decide to strike or not to strike, he can be persuaded to pick the next victim if you're wearing a Brazilian bombeiro shorts and a vasco / palmeiras Jersey, and a Brazilian lifeguard cap. I may or may not be right, and I haven't kept track of the attackers who have moved on and not attacked me because I had some Brazilian cloths on. Lastly, I live here, and am not just in for 3 days.

Knives are a interesting topic. I make it part of my boxing training a few times a week to hold the blade correctly, to adjust the lanyard so it fits around the leather gloves, etc. Most mongers are not trained, and do not train, just as most come in for short periods.

If you're paying 2000 reais a night for girls on short trips, there is no point in robbing you; quite the contrary, its better to just let you rob yourself kkk.

There is a saying and maybe you have heard it. "don't compare apples to oranges". Paying for low class favela girls who can barely afford to feed themselves once a day is completely different than girls who have the cash to buy food and pay for an apartment in SP. So, if one lives in Brazil and fucks the favela girls. Good for him. If a monger comes to town and fucks the top end Scandello girls and pays 2 k per night (which BTW I have never done) . Good for him. It is the CHOICE of the person with the cash in hand. Neither is better or worse.

I will tell you what. Next time I am in town, we will set up a tour of the places you go to to see what I can find. I won't go to 4 x4, and I will meet you at whatever place you frequent and see what plays out. I will also wear normal clothes while you dress like a "Brazilian" and let's see if I get robbed or attacked.

[Vagabundo1]

To the list, I would add.

The bombeiro shorts, which internash also got. They are super comfortable. And a bombeiro civil badge on a chain.

Even the least threatening ISGer I know here carries a blade. I would just suggest finding a good place to have it sharpened.

There's a logical list of escalation of force, all for defense.

A camera -- most criminals will go the other direction when photographed.

A smart phone to call uber, and the cops (190 in Rio, 192 for emergency medical, 193 for bombeiro). Knowing the numbers of local and your home company law enforcement who carry guns. Talking to your wingmen, even if only briefly -- if we run into a problem, call uber.

A flashlight.

The taser in the flashlight.

Leather gloves ($25 reais at casa de bombeiro).

I have been out with other ISGers with extensive MMA credentials who are victims of having their cell phones stolen at gunpoint in SP (not something I have heard of in RJ). While I respect your view, I am just saying that in the 6 seconds it takes for that thief coming down a business avenue in SP to decide to strike or not to strike, he can be persuaded to pick the next victim if you're wearing a Brazilian bombeiro shorts and a vasco / palmeiras Jersey, and a Brazilian lifeguard cap. I may or may not be right, and I haven't kept track of the attackers who have moved on and not attacked me because I had some Brazilian cloths on. Lastly, I live here, and am not just in for 3 days.

Knives are a interesting topic. I make it part of my boxing training a few times a week to hold the blade correctly, to adjust the lanyard so it fits around the leather gloves, etc. Most mongers are not trained, and do not train, just as most come in for short periods.

If you're paying 2000 reais a night for girls on short trips, there is no point in robbing you; quite the contrary, its better to just let you rob yourself kkk.

Exactly. This is how I dress whether I am in rio or in SP or anywhere else in the world. I don't feel the need to wear clothes to try to match the locals.

Please do not wear any MMA shirts or jiu jitsu shirts if you don't know or train those arts. Not only will someone try to test you and once they find out that you aren't in shape or know anything about fighting, they will take advantage. Take it from me. I laugh at those fat jokers who wear those shirts. I can tell within 5 secs by the way you walk and talk if you know anything about self defense. I have trained for over 12 years in close quarter combat martial arts and am a black belt in BJJ so I know how to avoid confrontation at all costs. Do not carry a knife with you unless you are trained in using it. The last thing you want is to have it taken away and used on you but the other guy..

[Lonster]

I really don't get what y'all are going on about wearing special clothes and being all scared in Sampa. I've been in Jabaquara to Santana and it's just fine.

Even I thought Santana was iffy, but it has a few addresses that kept coming up, some Dr. Cesar 209 and Henrique Bernadelli 119. Now I checked personally, and they are all in fine commercial neighborhoods. No worries. I can't even find Cesar 209 as these are all fine stores. And the Bernadelli 119 is a pretty nice looking Villa. I'm trying to muster some hornyness to actually go in and try them out for you, but I don't feel the need.

Earlier I got annoyed by another scam (like nothing really bad, just totally not what's advertized. Then another one, which I saved my time by telling the person per WhatsApp straight on that I walk out if it's not what's advertized, and that got me no response and then a block. So I knew.

Anyway, Bernadelli 119, I would go visit if I'm in the mood. And don't worry so much.

Was just checking Photoacom and one of the first girls ad was for Bernardelli 119, Juliana Sales is her post name.

She is a 9+, in my book anyway.

I highly doubt if I booked with her I would actually meet the girl in those photos there. Just too good to be true. But. I would really really love to live her, which makes me want to try even though I am pretty sure it's bait and switch. The mongers dilemma.

[Lonster]

When you go on Photoacompanhante and you look for Centro, Bela Vista, Republica and Higienopolis-Mackenzie, chances are more often than not the girl is in Rua Avanhandava 459. It's always like teeth pulling to get their actual address. The ads of these girls are enticing with lovely photos. The stupid web site might even say the photos are verified (useless idiots these people who run photoacompanhantes.com.br and photoprepagos. Co and sexoservidora. Mx.) But the truth is a different one. Last night I was looking frantically for a quick blowjob before bedtime while in centro. And all these lovely chicks advertise there. But something smelled fishy whenever they said they were at Rua Avanhandava 459. Some of their auto-greetings on whatsapp were even exactly the same.

I had a super session with lovely and friendly girl down in Jabaquara before noon, so I was in very good mood. Let me get that out of the way. I am so happy. That girl works in a pretty frequented establishment, but me going in the morning evaded the crowd and had a chance of getting her fresh, unused in the morning. I usually have more interaction on WhatsApp (for good reasons that become clear below) with her I didn't, simply because I really liked her physique in the pictures, and her ad seemed real, the text less boiler plate and more personal...

I had virtually the same experience with that same address. Classic bait and switch, completely diff girl. I did what you did, paid and left. I didn't blame the girl, she had no idea I was coming as we had never communicated. She is just there to service whomever arrives, and that service will be the bare min with zero skin to skin contact.

3 times after, "girls" gave me that address, when their ad had a different neighborhood, and I bailed each time.

That building is bad ju-ju.

[Lonster]

Casarao is a late night boate. It doesn't open until 10 p. I made the same mistake the first time I went. Got there just after 10 p and it was dead. It filled up a little but I was getting bored and planning my exit to Scandallo at 12 a. When I paid my bill and was heading out the door, a group of hot girls walked past me and walked in. I was WTF and thought for a sec and followed them back into the club. Best decision I made. The club started to pack in after. So, don't go to Casaroa much before midnight, that's when a lot of girls start showing up.

Thank you for the lowdown.

I will actually be in SP tomorrow, have plans to be in Baixa Augusta for drinks, finishing around 11. Might try Casarao again as I will be right there.

If any mongers are available, maybe we can hang out there.

[Lonster]

I really don't get what y'all are going on about wearing special clothes and being all scared in Sampa. I've been in Jabaquara to Santana and it's just fine.

Even I thought Santana was iffy, but it has a few addresses that kept coming up, some Dr. Cesar 209 and Henrique Bernadelli 119. Now I checked personally, and they are all in fine commercial neighborhoods. No worries. I can't even find Cesar 209 as these are all fine stores. And the Bernadelli 119 is a pretty nice looking Villa. I'm trying to muster some hornyness to actually go in and try them out for you, but I don't feel the need.

Earlier I got annoyed by another scam (like nothing really bad, just totally not what's advertized. Then another one, which I saved my time by telling the person per WhatsApp straight on that I walk out if it's not what's advertized, and that got me no response and then a block. So I knew.

Anyway, Bernadelli 119, I would go visit if I'm in the mood. And don't worry so much.

Hey Stinky,

Really good advice, thanks.

I too have been curious about Bernardelli 119. Most here seem to think it is a bait and switch type place as those woman we see using that address on Photoacom won't actually be there when one arrives for their session, and will be offered other girls.

I am on the fence as to go, as it is a hike for me, and don't want to get there expecting to meet a hottie from the site only to be offered something else. But the hotness of the girls advertising with that address is enticing.

[Anaggie]

This may work in RJ, but wearing bombeiro gear or other shit you mention in Jardins, Moema, Itaim or Vila Olimpia, where I go out on weekends in SP, is a sure way to draw unnecessary attention. When I'm in SP I dress exactly the same way I dress at home; jeans, shirt, t-shirt or polo shirt and nice shoes and that is how the locals dress in those areas when they go out. I'm sure it's different in RJ, but that is not the way to go in SP. Kudos to Bella Donna for slowing you down.

Exactly. This is how I dress whether I am in rio or in SP or anywhere else in the world. I don't feel the need to wear clothes to try to match the locals.

Please do not wear any MMA shirts or jiu jitsu shirts if you don't know or train those arts. Not only will someone try to test you and once they find out that you aren't in shape or know anything about fighting, they will take advantage. Take it from me. I laugh at those fat jokers who wear those shirts. I can tell within 5 secs by the way you walk and talk if you know anything about self defense. I have trained for over 12 years in close quarter combat martial arts and am a black belt in BJJ so I know how to avoid confrontation at all costs. Do not carry a knife with you unless you are trained in using it. The last thing you want is to have it taken away and used on you but the other guy.

Common sense and being aware of your surroundings will save your life in sticky situations. Once you are inside a safe area, you can let your guard down a bit but not 100%. Train to spot exits and try to keep your back to a wall. Other than that, relax, smile and have fun. People aren't out to get you or hurt you 99% of the time.