Sao Paulo Reports

[WyattEarp]

I bring up prices because I think there is a misinformed notion that if you pay more (pay more than the usual 500-700, take a girl out from the club, do a pernoite) than you get better service. From all my intel and data gathering that seems to be quite the opposite in more cases than it should. From rushed and cold pernoites to girls not doing requested services. Paying more doesn't guarantee you a great time and could lead a girl to think she can dupe you even further if you agreed to her high prices.

The girls know when they are under the Scandallo roof that they are representing the club. I'm sure management talks with specific girls if there is hints of poor service.

You take them home or meet up with them later they might feel they are essentially free agents. A mercenary attitude can develop back at your place especially if they know you will only be around a few days. Pissing off a local Scandallo regular could be very bad for business for the girl.

[HiFive1234]

Went through Sao Paulo in July overall great experience. Got some heat here for daring to ask if there are strip clubs in SP. So went to go investigate myself, mainly going to keep the report to this since all other areas are thoroughly covered by others.

Time: Went to both late night on a Monday and this was during the cold front in SP. So really not the condition for stripping.

Zeus Night Club:

I went in around 9 pm there was a small cover charge of 50, got you 2 or 3 beers. There was no stripping going on at the time and most of the girls were dressed in pretty bulky clothes because it was so cold. It was a bit silly and odd environment all things considered, but no one to blame there it was just really cold during that time. There were about 5-7 girls there you can pick any and chat with them. The girls are very friendly will sit with you and chat not very pushy or demanding you by them drinks (probably because not many people there). After a bit of talking to a girl I inquired about the prices 400 for 1 hour. I think I got gringo taxed a bit here with the initial pitch because she was obviously open to negotiations, could have probably got it down to 300. All in all strip clubs usually do charge more than clinicas or massage parlors since it's a much larger operation and the house has to take a good bit.

Kilt Night Club:

This place is a lot bigger went there around midnight no one there besides two girls. This place was dead although it was big enough to support a pretty large capacity. One of them spoke very good English so I spent some time here just chatting with her and bought her a drink. Was able to kind of get some answers from her on the strip club seen. Basically I choose the worst time to go there as it was a Monday, it's cold as fuck and they have to operate somewhat covertly since covid restrictions. She said that the place use to be very popular pre-covid especially on the weekends with shows happening hourly and the club being open late into the night. I got her number and headed back to my hotel. This place also had a short time hotel connected directly to it.

Verdict:

I was there during a really bad time of the month and week. But the concept is same as all others strip clubs in Central / South America I've been to. You watch the girls dance / strip, pick out one you like, call her over and chat / drink with her for a little bit. Discuss a price for what service and then go with her to the short time hotel connected to the club. If you have nothing to do late night on a Friday / Saturday after most of the clinicas have closed and want to try something different probably won't be bad places to visit. Also when things are more back to normal and official open these places will probably see an increase in traffic.

[SinfullyKorean]

The driver decides to take a long route to the hotel, I'm sure he tacked an additional 50-100 reals, it's not a lot in US money, but the principality that hurts. Rude awakening for me, it's fine though, it reminds me the girls will try to squeeze more money out of me and I need to wake up fast.

Lua gave me a good BBBJ, had a delicious tasting pussy and a great ass I squeezed hard while doing 69, I couldn't stop eating it. Man I miss talking dirty and having the girl follow, I frigging need to learn Porto, it definitely makes a difference. Lua only gave light kisses, and after fucking her from behind for awhile she complained a bit, I chilled a little but then restarted and she took it until I finally blew my load I held back for 14 days just to unload in Brazil! I got the feeling she wasn't up for seconds, she looked tired. Thankfully, I wasn't interested either, because while she was showering I finished setting up an online girl to come to my hotel room in a couple of hours, I need to save my bullets.

I blend in pretty good, I'm from the US but I'm not White, so I've noticed people assume I know Porto and I hate having to stop them.

I'm having fun so far, I'm big part thanks to all reports posted here!

EB.

Nice report! I loved every moment I was in SP. I heard great things about Lua when I was there. Unfortunately, our schedules never synced and I never had a chance to sample her. Hopefully, on my next visit. Keep the reports coming!

As for getting gouged by the Uber driver, you should see a price estimate when you book a ride. There should be no way for the driver to charge you R50-R100 extra. You'll get a notification asking if you approve of a route change. I've never had issues with Uber drivers once I was in their car. I did have issues with Uber drivers who'd accept but cancel after several minutes. Sometimes, they'd be driving in the opposite direction (farther away from me), seemingly waiting for me to cancel the ride. I was never charged when I canceled these rides.

Have fun! Seems like Brazil is the best place on Earth for mongers right now.

Hey, I think I will travel my first time in the near future to Brazil. And the first days for exploring sao paulo.

Sorry for the stupid question but nowadays every day the situation is so much different everywhere in the world (Corona). If I read correctly then there are in the moment no restrictions in the country and for going to Brazil is just a english PCR-Test necessary, right?

But how is the situation if I want to fly from sao paulo to rio and then from rio back to my home country (except restrictions of my home country). Is a test or anything else necessary for the flight between sao paulo and rio?

There are no tests required between SP and Rio. Back when I visited Brazil, they required a negative antigen test. When I was returning, a PCR test was necessary. Not sure about now. Sounds like restrictions have eased a bit.

[Bearsi]

I'm slated to be in SP from Sept 9-17th. My friend bailed because of the long flight and covid cases. He's going to Costa Rica instead (some members have had positive experiences but it's no Brazil) so if anyone wants to meet up PM me. Looking for some good steak, burger, pizza and chicken restaurants so any recommendations welcomed!

I've been reading the forum since I left in January and looks like things have been changing up since I left. Here's some info and advice I recently just got.

It looks like prices are indeed going up. Girls in Scandallo charging 800 BRL thing is the standard norm at the moment (500 being the normal at the beginning of 2021) I recently was talking to a scandallo girl I met back in January and she told me that she is charging minimum 800 BRL for 1 HR. I got her for 500 BRL before and the highest I hit was 700 BRL. She was also trying to charge me 2000 BRL each for 4 HR with her and her friend. Then she changed it to 2000 each pernoite. Then I got her to 500 for 1 HR for each. Then she asked if she could get more if she just came alone. Then more money for both of them for 1 HR instead of the agreed 500 each. What a mess. She also asked if I can send a PIX payment ahead of time. This just verifies two things to me.

1. The SP girls, more specifically, the Scandallo girls are getting desperate and are upcharging more from the other intel from posters and my recent experience. This girl wanted 800 for a 1 HR session outside the club instead of a lower reasonable price since she doesn't have wait around for a guy to pick her and pay the club as well. The reason you get a scandallo girls number is so you can get a lower rate than the 800 in the club but looks like things could be changing. Could be just this girl but looks like a trend is taking precedent here. It also tells me that most of these girls aren't getting their 800 for 1 HR because they are trying to do pernoites for a "reasonable" rate (800 for 1 HR vs 2000 for a pernoite) by doing this it seems like you're getting a good pernoite rate but really it's just numbers that don't have any real weight.

Now what this also means is everybody has to bring their A game to the table when negotiating. I did get this girl down from 800 to 500 but it was all thru text so she pulled out at the last second but if we were at the club she would have taken it instead of nothing. So even tho the 800 is what they are now looking for it just means you have to really put your cards on the table and be stern to get the usual 500. Of course this varies from girl to girl as some girls are in more demand than others and therefore charge more. Scandallo new rates if true is 400 BRL (for entry) + 800 BRL (Girl 1 HR) + 230 BRL (Room for 1 HR) it comes out to 1430 BRL in total for 1 HR with 1 Girl in the standard room but really its 1500 BRL for your uber and maybe a drink for the girl. Back in January everything was 1100 BRL for the exact same.

I bring up prices because I think there is a misinformed notion that if you pay more (pay more than the usual 500-700, take a girl out from the club, do a pernoite) than you get better service. From all my intel and data gathering that seems to be quite the opposite in more cases than it should. From rushed and cold pernoites to girls not doing requested services. Paying more doesn't guarantee you a great time and could lead a girl to think she can dupe you even further if you agreed to her high prices.

I also think some guys think if they negotiate a girl's price down than the girl won't be happy and she will give you terrible service. That I've rarely heard (most I've read were photoacompanhantes girls which should be avoided at all cost) and personally whenever I did get a lower price it was good service.

You should always do your due diligence and talk to the girls and really try to spot any red flags in their body language / word choices / attitude. I tend to go for the GND types so I personally haven't had much issue with this but for the guys who like the model looking types it's a more than just a heed of cautious.

I just want to make something really clear before I go any further. YOU CAN SPEND YOUR OWN MONEY HOWEVER YOU SEE FIT.

I personally like scandallo as many posters before me (it's lived up to it's legendary status many times over) but it has dramatically widen the gap to the clinicals which have also been proven very reliable and with a good mixture of girls at more or less the same 250 BRL. To put in that in context you could visit 6 clinical girls for the price of one scandallo girl at this point with the current rates.

Scandallo main advantage is that you don't have to walk around moema and hit up 5 different clinicas to find a girl you like. You can just sit in a nice patio / club / restaurant and watch the multiple girls engulf you and make your decision in luxury and peace.

Some food for thought.

2. Cariocas are much warmer than the Paulistas.

From all the readings and personal experience the cariocas feel like, as many posters have stated, ambassadors to Brazil. They'll show you around rio and satisfy all your needs at sometimes ridiculous low prices. It's like having a hot tour guide that you can bang.

The rio girls I've been in contact with have been traveling with rich guys to dubai and the like and yet they still make time to keep in touch and are excited for my arrival and charge 300 BRL to spend the day together and bang multiple times when they were getting 10 x that much not too long ago.

Rio really has a warmth to not only it's climate but it's people as well. Everyone just seems to being enjoying their lives and always trying to make the day end with pleasure, whether that's enjoying the nature, eating, fucking or all three.

A rush for life and all it's desires.

There is a reason many frequent posters are currently residing in rio.

I would suggest anyone to visit both cities of course but if you must do both start with SP and end with Rio.

To me SP feels like a girl who is a hot model that you can fuck for the right price but as soon as you leave so does her interest in you.

Rio feels like a girl who is cute and joyful that wants to share her lust for life with you.

I can't comment on Independent girls (prices and attitudes) as they vary widely of course but if anyone has any current experiences with their pricing, do share!

I just want to reiterate if you want to bang a girl and she charges higher than the average price and you got the capital do it.

Go for it.

Don't let anyone shame you for spending your own money. Money is supposed to be relinquished but memories / experiences live on with you. Just be aware of your options and don't be duped. We all hate to see that here. Truly.

Hope this helps any newbies and frequent posters.

I'll be posting reports and updates as soon as I get my boots on the ground.

[Gigi Buffon]

Hey, I think I will travel my first time in the near future to Brazil. And the first days for exploring sao paulo.

Sorry for the stupid question but nowadays every day the situation is so much different everywhere in the world (Corona). If I read correctly then there are in the moment no restrictions in the country and for going to Brazil is just a english PCR-Test necessary, right?

But how is the situation if I want to fly from sao paulo to rio and then from rio back to my home country (except restrictions of my home country). Is a test or anything else necessary for the flight between sao paulo and rio?

Thanks for the help.

For domestic flights, no test is required.

[SamaRiding]

So I made it finally, I'm one of those that can't sleep for shit in the plane, so I was half awake when I stepped out of the terminal to catch my Uber to the hotel.

Anyways, so I decide to pick Uber Black to speed up the pick up cause I was dog tired, and what do you know? The driver decides to take a long route to the hotel, I'm sure he tacked an additional 50-100 reals, it's not a lot in US money, but the principality that hurts. Rude awakening for me, it's fine though, it reminds me the girls will try to squeeze more money out of me and I need to wake up fast.

Got checked in early at 9:30 am, and The Renaissance gave me my room early at no charge, or so they say, we'll see.

I found Brazilian especially in SP to be very honest. Looks like you arrive during the morning rush hour when traffic in central downtown SP is worst than NYC. Normally a 30 min ride would end up being being 90 minutes or more from GRU. Once I also arrived in the middle morning rush, and Uber uses google maps directed the car all the way around the city in a big circle to avoid traffic.

In my experience even P2 P girls in Brazil are not money gougers. Most prices are fixed especially in the clinics, prives and online. Fees are only negotiated in scandallo and other boates, but once the price is agreed upon before the session, I never had a girl up sell me during the session for standard GFE, even for CIM or anal! I also rarely feel there is gringo tax. Maybe in scandallo but I feel everybody overpays there even the locals.

[Gigi Buffon]

Isn't the price preset? I've used it in Costa Rica and Mexico and the price is the price regardless of how they get to the destination.

I've seen that in Brazil couple of times, the rate changes, if they change the route. Most Uber drivers will ask you, if they can follow the route outlined in the GPS, in that case, the amount does not change. But, if Sampa is congested and he ask you, if he can change the route, then the final amount will differ from the original quote. This only happens, if the amount of kms travelled changes in a material way vs the original route.

[Markon]

Isn't the price preset? I've used it in Costa Rica and Mexico and the price is the price regardless of how they get to the destination.

So I made it finally, I'm one of those that can't sleep for shit in the plane, so I was half awake when I stepped out of the terminal to catch my Uber to the hotel.

One interesting comment though, no one asked me for proof of negative COVID results, not in the US during check-in or boarding, and definitely not in SP. I asked a gate agent in the US and she said "oh no we don't do that anymore" Idk what to make of that.

Anyways, so I decide to pick Uber Black to speed up the pick up cause I was dog tired, and what do you know? The driver decides to take a long route to the hotel, I'm sure he tacked an additional 50-100 reals, it's not a lot in US money, but the principality that hurts. Rude awakening for me, it's fine though, it reminds me the girls will try to squeeze more money out of me and I need to wake up fast.

Got checked in early at 9:30 am, and The Renaissance gave me my room early at no charge, or so they say, we'll see. Went to the Droguera and got some vitamin c, and other necessities. It's so easy to get your vitamins here! Got some funds for playtime too. I have a feeling I'll need more soon though, my wallet is not happy..

[Dodochen]

Hey, I think I will travel my first time in the near future to Brazil. And the first days for exploring sao paulo.

Sorry for the stupid question but nowadays every day the situation is so much different everywhere in the world (Corona). If I read correctly then there are in the moment no restrictions in the country and for going to Brazil is just a english PCR-Test necessary, right?

But how is the situation if I want to fly from sao paulo to rio and then from rio back to my home country (except restrictions of my home country). Is a test or anything else necessary for the flight between sao paulo and rio?

Thanks for the help.

[EverythingBlue]

So I made it finally, I'm one of those that can't sleep for shit in the plane, so I was half awake when I stepped out of the terminal to catch my Uber to the hotel.

One interesting comment though, no one asked me for proof of negative COVID results, not in the US during check-in or boarding, and definitely not in SP. I asked a gate agent in the US and she said "oh no we don't do that anymore" Idk what to make of that.

Anyways, so I decide to pick Uber Black to speed up the pick up cause I was dog tired, and what do you know? The driver decides to take a long route to the hotel, I'm sure he tacked an additional 50-100 reals, it's not a lot in US money, but the principality that hurts. Rude awakening for me, it's fine though, it reminds me the girls will try to squeeze more money out of me and I need to wake up fast.

Got checked in early at 9:30 am, and The Renaissance gave me my room early at no charge, or so they say, we'll see. Went to the Droguera and got some vitamin c, and other necessities. It's so easy to get your vitamins here! Got some funds for playtime too. I have a feeling I'll need more soon though, my wallet is not happy.

I went to Prime earlier, no one was waiting and I was presented with 3 girls, a young spinner with a solid body by the name of Lua, another spinner named Erika, and a real friendly one I think her name was Jade. I almost went with Jade, I know she was going to be a solid GFE, I could feel it, but Lua's young looks won so I picked her.

Lua gave me a good BBBJ, had a delicious tasting pussy and a great ass I squeezed hard while doing 69, I couldn't stop eating it. Man I miss talking dirty and having the girl follow, I frigging need to learn Porto, it definitely makes a difference. Lua only gave light kisses, and after fucking her from behind for awhile she complained a bit, I chilled a little but then restarted and she took it until I finally blew my load I held back for 14 days just to unload in Brazil! I got the feeling she wasn't up for seconds, she looked tired. Thankfully, I wasn't interested either, because while she was showering I finished setting up an online girl to come to my hotel room in a couple of hours, I need to save my bullets.

Later on I plan on hitting Scandallo, and tomorrow morning I got another online girl scheduled, then plan to hit CLnicas again. My first impression of SP is positive, I really need to learn Porto, I blend in pretty good, I'm from the US but I'm not White, so I've noticed people assume I know Porto and I hate having to stop them.

It's frigging hot BTW, and Uber guys don't use Air conditioning, not sure if some of the cars don't come with it or they are trying to save gas. Anyhow, rides are like $4-5 around town LOL.

I'm having fun so far, I'm big part thanks to all reports posted here!

EB.

[Nounce]

I was told by a Scandallo garrota that the club charges a fee for the first night, then a smaller or even no fee if they show up for following consecutive nights. If they miss a night they have to pay the higher entrance again. That's why they have such a good client / hooker ratio.

I think this makes sense because the club needs the girls.

[HarvestBoi]

Out of curiosity, what do they charge the girls to get in?

I was told by a Scandallo garrota that the club charges a fee for the first night, then a smaller or even no fee if they show up for following consecutive nights. If they miss a night they have to pay the higher entrance again. That's why they have such a good client / hooker ratio.

[XXL]

The charge structure is probably the same at all the prime clubs in Sampa (e. g. Cafe Foto). If the girl gets by:

6 pm: The entrance fee is waived.

11 pm: Same fee as the male customer pays.

After 6 pm- Before 11 pm: Charge is prorated.

Better then go early so that the girls keep more of the money. I go early anyway as I don't like sloppy seconds. Downside is: less girls early, but in Brasil the quality is such 15 girls are enough for me to desperately want to fuck 2 or 3 of them.

[Tiradentes]

Out of curiosity, what do they charge the girls to get in?

The charge structure is probably the same at all the prime clubs in Sampa (e. g. Cafe Foto). If the girl gets by:

6 pm: The entrance fee is waived.

11 pm: Same fee as the male customer pays.

After 6 pm- Before 11 pm: Charge is prorated.

[Member #4732]

Out of curiosity, what do they charge the girls to get in?

Stuff always subject to change, but the scheme has been that the ladies paid at least 200 if not more to get in. If they stayed a full shift they would receive a courtesy invite to enter free the next day. If they returned they would continue to receive free invites for each successive day. If they "faulted" they would need to restart the cycle and pay the full admission again on their next post fault date. Exception being they could could choose not to work on either Saturday or Monday (but not both) and keep their invite streak alive. So the hard core regulars can avoid the fee but many (most?) cannot keep that streak alive all the time.

Hard to say how many of the ladies make bank on a given night. My impression is that quite a few, if not most, do not. But I could be wrong.