Sao Paulo Reports

[Member #4733]

How did you get uber to work?? I never had to use uber until yesterday. It asked for CPF. I used one I got from a menina but then it asked for date of birth, which obviously I did not have. So I tried the alternative and added my credit card info, which was an US credit card BTW. Although I was able to select my destination and my payment method (cash), I never could get the order to go through. The app always gave me a message saying "something went wrong".

If you google 'gerardor cpf' you will find quite a few sites to give you a cpf. I used it appr 7 years ago to buy plane tickets. I guess it still works.

[WyattEarp]

I'm very fussy about finding pretty girls. I always find them all over Southern Brazil. And 80% of the time, they aren't satisfied unless they are satisfying me. The other 20% (roughly) do a decent job with the rare bad attitude in between.

I can't get into the Ro-girl look in general. I prefer Czech girls as they have softer features and more Germanic mixed-in. I believe Prague has become hit or miss for finding Czech girls who are hot and offer good service. Of course, a lot of Euros will find you anything you want.

[The Cane]

I won't argue with you regarding sexiness and looks, that depends on personal taste. However, there is no disputing that Brazilian women are miles ahead in terms of GFE and service. I visit FKKs for the looks of the girls and Brazil for exhilarating fornication.

I would argue that they deliver the best PSE sex too, including anal sex. Most of us here think highly of the Brazilian girls as sex vixens. That's why we frequent this part of the site and daydream about our next opportunity to visit Brazil!

[DreamCarnarvon]

Slept in late again on Tuesday morning but woke up in time for another brunch at my hotel. At around 11:30, I took Uber to Clinica Yankin.

How did you get uber to work?? I never had to use uber until yesterday. It asked for CPF. I used one I got from a menina but then it asked for date of birth, which obviously I did not have. So I tried the alternative and added my credit card info, which was an US credit card BTW. Although I was able to select my destination and my payment method (cash), I never could get the order to go through. The app always gave me a message saying "something went wrong".

[Turgid]

Brazilian women are sexier and better looking than Romanian women (more diverse), they also offer better service. You can find any kind of woman in Brazil, there is taste for everyone.

I won't argue with you regarding sexiness and looks, that depends on personal taste. However, there is no disputing that Brazilian women are miles ahead in terms of GFE and service. I visit FKKs for the looks of the girls and Brazil for exhilarating fornication.

[WyattEarp]

Scandallo versus all the other options has been discussed extensively. I don't consider the minimum consumption as part of the price for a girl. Minimum consumption is a common concept in popular Brazilian clubs and bars. So really, it is what it is and it's not unusual.

Having said that, Scandallo is an expensive option for the SP scene when you factor in the girl's rate plus the room. I've been with top escorts that cost less than a Scandallo hook-up. These escort girls would be among the hottest in Scandallo and often times they are. Again, I'm not sure this can be debated.

When I return to Sao Paulo, I'll still probably return to Scandallo.

[Steve 9696]

Hottest girls maybe, but not sure you get the better experience in the FKKs. I have visited both places numerous times, and I tend to lean towards Brazil for a more fun experience.

I won't join The Who is Hotter debate. Love my Brasileiras and Ro-girls equally in this respect. But Brasileiras win the GFE hands down. As I've said before they have a unique ability to live in the moment and truly enjoy (or appear to) their time with you. Sure selected Ro-Girls bring strong GFE (Cambria London, Kate Globe) but it seems to come easy to the majority of Brasileiras.

The FKK and the Boate are DIFFERENT experiences. I strongly suggest BOTH!

[FRobertson]

Brazilian women are sexier and better looking than Romanian women (more diverse), they also offer better service. You can find any kind of woman in Brazil, there is taste for everyone.

I have yet to find any Asian women here.

[MongerForSex]

For the hottest girls I'd rather go to Germany and do FKK girls who are of similar or even better quality, for less overall.

Brazilian women are sexier and better looking than Romanian women (more diverse), they also offer better service. You can find any kind of woman in Brazil, there is taste for everyone.

[Lefeu]

For the hottest girls I'd rather go to Germany and do FKK girls who are of similar or even better quality, for less overall.

Hottest girls maybe, but not sure you get the better experience in the FKKs. I have visited both places numerous times, and I tend to lean towards Brazil for a more fun experience.

[Turgid]

The misconception about Scandallo is the rate that the girls want at Scandallo, being R$500 or R$600 or whatever you get her to lower it to, is the deterring factor for us mongers to avoid the place. It's really the overhead of the entrance fee and room fee. You're already in for R$470 before even adding on the price of the girl! It'll be minimum about R$1000 all in to do a program there, no matter how you slice it.

For the hottest girls I'd rather go to Germany and do FKK girls who are of similar or even better quality, for less overall.

[Jib Reach]

Ya lahwy! I was once hit by that at Guarulhos. Seriously after all these years the airport authorities don't know what's going on?

Afterwards my bank wouldn't even talk to me. Internationally Brazil is a financial pariah. Don't even try to get money in electronically. Stick to cash always.

You always have the option of transferring money directly from the US (or anywhere else) and simply picking up the cash at a convenient location. Transferwise, Western Union, or any remittance service will do. Set up an account in the US, affect a transfer and pick it up at the most convenient location for you. You also get decent rates and convenience. The only caution is that you need to determine what verification you will need, it is best (easiest) to set up the system before leaving the US.

Jib Reach.

[Nordico]

If Brooklin required you to take their taxi to and from Jardins, like Scandalo requires you to pay entrance and room fees, then the actual session price would be 300 and something.

It's quite common practice that the clients in a nightclub have to pay for their drinks and that's what Scandallo is, a nightclub. I don't think the prices are even high for a nightclub. The minimum consumption in my opinion is a good thing, because it keeps certain kind of people out of the place. If not, the place would be like a clinica, where the usual suspects come every day to socialize with each other and wouldn't consume anything and wouldn't take any girls for a session. I don't consider the money I leave to the house part of the pussy price. I pay for the nightclub experience, where all the female clients are interested in me and want to have sex with me. Quite unique for a guy of 56. If one calculates the total cost of getting laid and that's the only thing you get from going to Scandallo, Bomboa or a clinica, then the taxi fare is part of that cost. YMMV.

[Polyamorist]

As the ATM skimmers are a serious risk in Brazil, I prefer to do as few ATM withdrawals as possible to reduce the risk of exposure and minimize the inconvenience of going to a secure location.

Ya lahwy! I was once hit by that at Guarulhos. Seriously after all these years the airport authorities don't know what's going on?

Afterwards my bank wouldn't even talk to me. Internationally Brazil is a financial pariah. Don't even try to get money in electronically. Stick to cash always.

[KPete]

SP Trip Report, Day 3, Part 2 - Scandallo.

After taking a nap, I woke up and got ready to go to Scandallo on Tuesday night. My goal was to get there before 7 pm to take advantage of the lower entry (R150 before 7 pm, R220 after 7 pm, with R150 consumable either way) and to use the consumable on dinner. However, my earlier trips were not really at rush hour, so I underestimated the effect of traffic and the amount of time it would take to get there. I ordered my Uber at 6:10, and I was sweating it a bit because I didn't know how strict they would be with the entry time, but I did make it there with 5 minutes to spare. You walk in through a garage area and visit the cashiers to check-in. They ask to see your passport to gain entry. Then they give you a card to keep track of food / drink, and your entry is also put on this card.

As has been noted in earlier reports, this place is really swanky- nice modern decor, big spaces, luxurious vibe, and lots of security and waiters. I wandered around trying not to look lost and found my way to the restaurant. The food prices are actually not bad, from maybe R60 and up for entrees, especially given the portion sizes. I ordered a steak salad, and it was pretty good with enough food to fill me up. After eating, I wandered around to check out the facilities and the ladies. Most of the club is closed off early in the day, then they open it later when things pick up. One girl offered to take me on a tour, so she showed me around, which was helpful. The central outdoor courtyard area (which I was told used to have small huts and tents) is now undergoing renovation, although no one seemed to know what was planned. I remember Steve writing about the little door for delivering drinks in the rooms as a measure of luxury; for me, it was the dental floss in the bathrooms, which was a nice amenity.

My first impression was that the women in this place were considerably more attractive than anywhere else I had been in Sao Paulo, or anywhere else I've ever been for that matter. I would put it on par with or maybe better than Globe in Zurich, if not just for sheer numbers. Most girls were in the 7-8/10 range, and there were easily 10-20 girls I would put in the 9-10/10 range. There were only a few I would rate at 5/10 or below. There were almost no black girls (I think I saw 2-3), but there were a few Asian girls (including one very pretty half-Japanese girl who was nice and spoke excellent English), and there were even a few redheads. During peak time (11 pm to 1 am), there must have been 200-300 girls there, with super-hot girls everywhere you looked. In short, this place is amazing. Most of the girls quoted prices of R600-R800 per hour (except for the half-Japanese girl, who quoted R1000) with different services included.

There were so many pretty girls, and so many continuing to arrive, that it was hard to even get a handle on the place. Usually, when I go to a club, I like to check out all of the talent, choose my 2-3 favorites, and then talk to those few to figure out my order of preference. Here, every time I would look for a girl, I would see another new candidate. There were just too many girls, and I was literally spoiled for choice. In the end, while I was looking for another girl, I saw one of my targets standing idly, and I approached her. Her name was Bruna, and she was very pretty (I would rate her as one of the 9/10's), but she looked kind of like one of my long-ago girlfriends but with red hair, which really appealed to me. Plus she was very nice and was giving me a good vibe while I was talking to her, so I decided to take her to the room. We agreed on R600 for one hour including the stuff I like (but no anal), which was okay with me.

The system is a bit confusing; you go downstairs and then upstairs again to go to another set of cashiers, where you pay for the room (R200 for one hour). Then you go upstairs from there to get to the rooms. The place is huge - it looks like there are 4 floors of rooms, with many rooms per floor -- and the rooms themselves are nice with dual showers, toilets, music, TV, and AC. In the room, Bruna delivered with a great GFE and all of the fun stuff that goes with with that. After we were finished and all cleaned up, I paid her in cash in the room, and we headed back downstairs.

At that point, I was pretty tired. I took a few more laps around the place just to get a sense of it, as it was even more crowded than before with even more new pretty faces. Then I went back downstairs to check out. It turned out that my food and drinks, plus the piece of cake I bought to share with one girl, came to R145, so I just paid my R150 for entry, which covered all of that. In total, I spent R150 entry / consumables + R200 room + R600 girl = R950. Then I took Uber back to my hotel.

I understand that this was expensive for Sao Paulo, but the difference in girl quality was huge between this place and the clinicas or Espaco Vergueiro, and the overall experience was also much better. In the grand scheme of things, since I don't come to Brazil often, and having spent so much on flights and the hotel, I would rather just spend the money for the experience. Also, the cost is really not that different from an FKK club in Germany or Switzerland when you factor in the club entry costs and girls' service levels. Now I was going to have to make some choices about what to do with the rest of my time here.

More to come.