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09-21-19 17:02 #10542
Posts: 8Thanks Rovnak,
From your response and reading previous reports it seems there have been some changes at Casarao. The entrada is now a 40+20.40 I think is the entrada and 20 the min consumption (or the other way around? Doorman made a big deal of pointing to the sign saying as much so apparently its new and he wants to make sure its clear on entry.
At the hotel next door they only collect the money for the room and they collect it directly from you. Everything else is strictly between you and the garota. Apparently this is new? As far as the 40 minutes issue, I asked for 40 minutes at the desk, after which they asked for 40 Rs. They never corrected me to say its 30 minutes. Cuarenta is Cuarenta in both Portugese and Spanish so I'm sure we all understood each other, and I did look at the clock start and finish on the 40 minute sessions (several times anyway) and they were indeed 40 minutes when the buzzer went off. So I was lucky (at least several times over a few weeks) or its a new structure. I did notice that the girls didn't seem to mind taking activities all the way to the buzzer and then showering. Got a few reminder buzzers during clean up but nobody seemed overly pissed about it.
Originally Posted by Rovnak [View Original Post]
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09-21-19 12:12 #10541
Posts: 3630Sao Paulo
Originally Posted by Balboa [View Original Post]
In São Paulo my favorites are Tangará, near Jardins and Moema, 120 reais for a half-hour, about 25 girls available as average. And If you like nightlife go to Espaço Vergueiro on Thursdays and Fridays are the best days. 170 reais for one hour. About some 10/12 girls available.
PM for details.
ABG.
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09-21-19 03:29 #10540
Posts: 648Originally Posted by JohnJabber [View Original Post]
Entrada: you paid 60, all usable toward consumption. They keep moving the entrada. For years it was 20 to enter with 0 of that toward consumption OR 30 to enter with all 30 in consumption. Last time I went they had raised it to 40 all in consumption. Maybe its moved to 60 but I am sure I paid no more than 40 a few months ago.
Salida / girl exit. Correct.
Rooms. Correct, with one caveat which also affects your comment about the girls negotiation.
Again, maybe its changed, but for as long as I have gone there the official times are 1/2 hour and hour. Now, you note that some of the girls say 30 minutes and some say 40 minutes, and you imply that the ones that say 30 are deceiving. In fact, the ones that say 30 minutes are being more honest than the ones that say 40 minutes. Its a real annoying thing, I agree, to hear different times from different chicks. As I understand it, having heard this from numerous girls, the official time is 30 minutes BUT the girls think they can stretch it to 40 minutes by ignoring the desk ringing the room phone for a few minutes. Now bear in mind you have to shower twice within that time. So its actually the girls that "claim" its 40 minutes that are exaggerating a bit. I think you will get the same amount of time from both the girls that say 30 and the ones that say 40. Once the desk starts ringing that phone it gets too annoying to stay longer and its time to shower. I always do an hour so I don't have too much first hand experience with the half hour "grace period".
Garotas: again maybe there has been an increase but what I was seeing routinely was the proposition 200 1/2 hour and 300 1 HR. Occasionally some would ask for 250/350 but I was never asked for more. They also don't drop lower than 150 1/2 and 250 hour, maybe 200 if you are are super charmer or they are desperate.
As for the all night, outside the club stuff, that ranges all over the price range, but your reported experience seems reasonable.
Cheers.
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09-20-19 19:35 #10539
Posts: 1069Originally Posted by UniversalX [View Original Post]
I know both SP and Rio well.
I'm not a big fan of the high end boate scene (Scandalos, etc), however, I definitely understand the attraction, especially for the monger tourist on a visit.
I'm also not a big fan of the Termas in Rio, though I go occasionally.
In both Rio and SP, I scout the Centro scene and find the hidden diamonds.
I enjoy the hunt.
In Rio I love the Cariocas; the mulata, the moreninha, the bronceada with sexy tan lines.
Both cities are great!
On a pure monger basis, yes I'm sure SP has more availability, however, I'll take Rio for overall ambience, relaxation, beach, etc.
Just my perspective from a non high end club scene type of guy.
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09-20-19 15:12 #10538
Posts: 78Information
Hate to take up space with a non-info message, but a huge thanks for all of the trip reports and information. My first time visit is not until February and I have read back 200 pages both on this and the Rio thread. I have to now re-read them all and take notes of the procedure and costs on each location.
I have been thinking about using a guide for a day but sure would like to meet some expats too. PM me if interested.
Thanks again!
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09-20-19 14:25 #10537
Posts: 8Casarao Pricing
Just wondering if everyone else has the same experience as I did here.
I speak good Spanish and can mix in enough Portuguese to have a conversation / negotiate.
Non-negotiable.
Entrance / min consumption paid on exit 60 Rs.
Exit Tax to take garota off premises other than "hotel" next door 100 Rs.
Rooms 40 min = 40 Rs. 1 HR = 80 Rs.
Chicas start out with Rs 250-300 for 40 minutes and Rs 400-500 for 1 HR. This can be fairly easily negotiated down to 200 Rs /40 min or 300 Rs / HR. Even lower is possible but starts putting them in a pissy mood.
Some of the girls will try to make you think the first tier is 30 minutes if they size you up as green. This is easy to shut down. Just correct them and say its 40 minutes.
If you want all night, get their number and followup the next day to avoid exit tax. It was fairly easy (but did take some firm negotiating) to get all nights for 600 Rs starting about 9 pm and lasting till morning wake up (9 am or so for me). For a 600 Rs all night it has to be the right night. The average garota pulls an average of 1100-1400 Rs nightly on Thurs / Fri / Sat so enticing them away from club on those nights would be pricey. Oh on the 600 Rs all nights plan on a fairly pricey meal. They're going to want to eat and it ain't going to be Burger King.
So some all in examples.
Recon. Couple of 40 minute sessions to check out talent and get phone # - (garota / room / house) 200+40+60= 300 x 2 sessions = 600 Rs ($150 USD).
All nighter two garotas - (garaotas / uber / meal) - 600*2 + 50 + 100 = 1330 Rs ($330 USD).
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09-19-19 00:19 #10536
Posts: 423Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
I will definitely check out Connection during my next trip.
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09-19-19 00:03 #10535
Posts: 423Originally Posted by Nuupter [View Original Post]
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09-18-19 23:20 #10534
Posts: 423Originally Posted by Rovnak [View Original Post]
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09-18-19 23:01 #10533
Posts: 2278Missing the Point
Originally Posted by Lefeu [View Original Post]
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09-18-19 20:23 #10532
Posts: 8OK I was remembering wrong. These were Boates. One was a sauna (American Bar I think is the name). All of them trash bars like I remembered, but before I remembered you could find a gem here and there. Not anymore apparently. There's a relatively new place (Casarao) on the street that I assume is the reason as it soaks up all the talent on that stretch. I ended up liking Casarao so much (it was awesome every night of the week) that it was essentially my only destination for the entire trip. Price to quality ratio was far from what I remembered of the high end shops. I found enough 8-9's to choose from in Casarao that I didn't bother even checking out the high end joints with the higher pricing structure. Scandalo / Bomboa / etc.
BTW I understand why no one answered my post here (I had a total of 1 post) . So I thought ID put up this info even though this thread got no replies before.
Originally Posted by JohnJabber [View Original Post]
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09-18-19 17:48 #10531
Posts: 2041Originally Posted by Bliadun [View Original Post]
Although, the word termas translates to spa that is not an accurate description. Men usually don't go to termas for the amenities. If a termas offers any amenities they usually are not that good. Weak massages, so-so steam baths. Monte Carlo offered both of these. The women also don't walk around naked.
What you typically will find is scantily-clad Brazilian women, a bar, some food, loud music and possibly a short sexy stage or pole dance by some of the girls. If you are interested in more specifics, you should inquire on the Rio de Janeiro thread.
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09-18-19 13:33 #10530
Posts: 319FKK in Brazil.
Is there any FKK in Brazil?
By FKK I mean fully naked girls and amenities (sauna, hot tub etc) comparable to Germany.
Originally Posted by Lefeu [View Original Post]
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09-18-19 04:23 #10529
Posts: 1136I agree
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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09-18-19 03:51 #10528
Posts: 1749Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]