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  1. #13567

    Clinica vs Scandallo debate

    Quote Originally Posted by DreamCarnarvon  [View Original Post]
    I always feel like the clinicas don't get enough love here on ISG. I do want to preface with what I am about to say with this: if you are in the mindset of fucking nothing but model type girls in SP, then Scandallo is the route to go. Period. But if you have the time and patience and don't mind fucking GFE 7's then the clinicas are a great choice.
    This kind of debate is as old as humanity and will never end, however meaningless it is. People will always vouch for their personal preferences as the 'superior' choice, just human nature.

    I think finding your sweet spot and having fun is the best option, read the rest of the reports for entertainment value.

  2. #13566
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.
    I had a non-memorable session with one on my first trip to SP last year. And plenty advertise on twitter and other forums.

  3. #13565
    I've literally been just going to Scandallo every day this week. I decided that I would take Sunday and Monday to rest a bit. My liver, sleep schedule, and wallet can only take so much. F1 week seems to have pushed Scandallo to the max. On Friday there was hardly any room to move, and the on-site rooms had a two-hour wait. I ended up just taking my girl back to my hotel that night. On Saturday there was about a 15 minute wait. I didn't go back on Sunday, even though the club was open for the actual F1 event. Regardless, I think a trip to Scandallo during F1 week is the mongering hajj, and I am planning on making the pilgrimage every year I can. You can't miss it.

    There were a ton of girls but also a ton of guys. I think part of the fun of it is knowing that you could have any one of those girls, if you are in the right place at the right time. It's a real power trip, and in that sense just being in the club and watching all the women marching by is fun in and of itself. Obviously, not all the women are truly available all the time, as many of the most attractive ones will already be entertaining someone else. I've always showed up at around 10:30 PM, I want to experiment with coming in earlier and see if I can grab one of the mega-hotties before she's snapped up.

    Regardless, I did end up going with the hot blonde on Wednesday, another MILFy tall blonde on Thursday, a spinner morena model on Friday (possibly the best experience at SP yet), and a tiny young half-Asian girl on Saturday. Every single one of them gave very good service. There are so many girls and such a wide variety that I've been playing a game. Within the first hour or so, I pick a theme for the night. Wed / Thurs it was tall blondes, Saturday it was young GND, and Friday was wildcard. Potential themes for next week include negra, redhead, and thicc girls only. Just to spice things up.

    Just as a data point, a night at Scandallo with several drinks for myself, a few drinks for girls, and a one-hour on-site session typically runs me 300-400 USD. The delta there represents how much the girl charges. I've paid anywhere between 600 and 1000 BRL, averaging out to around 800 BRL. Maybe you can negotiate better than I did, but remember that every 100 BRL you negotiate down is just about 18 USD. You decide if that's worth it, especially if you are visiting from the US where you're not getting a 1 HR session with anyone halfway attractive for less than 400 USD an hour.

  4. #13564
    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    That leads me to Brazilian=Japanese escorts. You will see a few escorts with some Asian features advertising their Asian ethnicity. While many of them are attractive, most of them do not look 100% Asian. For the Asian connoisseur, the advantage of Brazil is you can find an escort with Asian looks and Brazilian curves.
    I agree with you. The Japanese Brazilian working girls who I have seen on twitter and in the clinicas are almost all mixed ethnicities, which can be nice. I also seen 1 or 2 full Japanese looking girls in Scandallo. I heard that the Japanese community in SP can be pretty closed knit and it is a highest economic class in SP. I heard the owner of Dcandallo is Japanese Brazilian. But sex is sold in every community. I bet is there are Japanese only clinicas or geisha clubs that are very premium (I. E. Expensive) and probably not even open to other Brazilians and not advertised. My guess is the only way to know where is a personal invitation by a local Japanese Brazilian regular. My Porto is too poor to ask. If anybody knows, DM me and I will paid you back in any Intel I have. Anyways, I go to SP for the whitest red heads, but I do have a second fetish for Japanese girls. Ok, maybe third place, after dark hair Romanian beauties. Hahaha.

  5. #13563

    Article

    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    This article says 1.5 million. It's about 4 years old though, so 2 million isn't so much of an unreasonable stretch I don't think. Anyway, as the article says, more Japanese people live in Brazil than in any other part of the world, save Japan itself. I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.
    Sorry, here's the article: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-42859249.

  6. #13562

    Japanese Brazilians

    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    As far as two million of Japanese descent in Sao Paulo?
    This article says 1.5 million. It's about 4 years old though, so 2 million isn't so much of an unreasonable stretch I don't think. Anyway, as the article says, more Japanese people live in Brazil than in any other part of the world, save Japan itself. I have never seen a Japanese working girl in Brazil. But then again, I have never looked for any either.

  7. #13561
    Quote Originally Posted by Mongerer88  [View Original Post]
    Why are wealthy Japanese guys willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity?
    My impression from SE Asia is that Japanese businessmen like a certain style of courtesan. This courtesan style might be an extension of the Japanese geisha.

    I'm sure you are familiar with KTV girls (K=Karoake) in SE Asia. It seems like the Japanese men like the company and entertainment of the girls more than any sexual dalliance later. It wouldn't surprise me if a KTV joint with girls for hire exists in Sao Paulo.

    As far as two million of Japanese descent in Sao Paulo? I think that number is expanded by fractional representation. They're are a lot of Paulistas with a quarter or eighth Japanese heritage. You can spend an afternoon in Liberdade having sushi and exploring the Japanese shops. There are some cute Japanese girls who the younger members can chat up.

    That leads me to Brazilian=Japanese escorts. You will see a few escorts with some Asian features advertising their Asian ethnicity. While many of them are attractive, most of them do not look 100% Asian. For the Asian connoisseur, the advantage of Brazil is you can find an escort with Asian looks and Brazilian curves.

  8. #13560
    Quote Originally Posted by Turgid  [View Original Post]
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the wealthiest people in Brazil are the Japanese so Japanese women do not need to provide sexual relief to make a living. That being said I have banged two Japanese working girls in Brazil, one in Miruna and another in Tangara.
    Just curious if they work at the high end for Japanese tourists (although maybe high-end Japanese tourists don't go to Brazil).

    There was an escort who used to tour Chicago every month or two, but lived in Las Vegas, who had a Japanese mom and a Brazilian dad. She spoke English, Portuguese and Japanese.

    Really hot girl and a great fuck.

    She told me she just saw Japanese customers in Las Vegas. She did not advertise but instead built up a relationship with concierge guys and serviced Japanese "whales" at a really high price per hour. She worked under a completely different name when touring other cities, so as not too damage her brand.

    I hadn't realized that the two countries have a lot of connections until I met her.

    I was also amused when I went to Thailand about how a few places marketed themselves almost exclusively to the Japanese, but maybe that has changed.

    Why are wealthy Japanese guys willing to pay more for perceived exclusivity?

  9. #13559
    Quote Originally Posted by SamaRiding  [View Original Post]
    With 2 million people of Japanese descent in So Paulo, I thought there would be more Japanese working girls. I am Asian and Japanese looking enough that the locals always think I live there and even ask me for directions on the street. I looked on my last trip and found very few Japanese girls even online. And a bunch of them are fake Japanese. Even on the local forum, guys have asked and very few responses. I would like there would be Japanese clinicas or prives, maybe they are a hidden secret for just the locals like some Chinese only massage parlors in Flushing New York. Maybe I can get in since I can pass off as Japanese. Hahaha. Not sure if anybody here knows. Much appreciated.
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the wealthiest people in Brazil are the Japanese so Japanese women do not need to provide sexual relief to make a living. That being said I have banged two Japanese working girls in Brazil, one in Miruna and another in Tangara.

  10. #13558
    Quote Originally Posted by DreamCarnarvon  [View Original Post]
    I always feel like the clinicas don't get enough love here on ISG. I do want to preface with what I am about to say with this: if you are in the mindset of fucking nothing but model type girls in SP, then Scandallo is the route to go. Period. But if you have the time and patience and don't mind fucking GFE 7's then the clinicas are a great choice.
    I like what you say about the clinicas. It's just that everybody's optics scale is different. For me, the clinicas are overwhelmingly 6's and down. Yes, you can find some 7's which is my minimum, but too many of the clinica girls just don't meet my optics standards. I'm much happier going to the nightclubs or using a reliable online source (there are a handful).

  11. #13557
    Quote Originally Posted by SamaRiding  [View Original Post]
    With 2 million people of Japanese descent in So Paulo, I thought there would be more Japanese working girls. ...
    I found a small cluster on twitter so you can start from there.

  12. #13556
    Quote Originally Posted by Rextor  [View Original Post]
    There were more chicks this time, but my assessment of the clinicas remains the same. It's just not the right setup for me. First of all, there simply are not that many hot women. Across Abbobora, Miruna, and Prime I only saw maybe 2 or 3 that I would consider picking.
    So yeah, I think I'll pretty much just stick with Scandallo. I want to check out Bomboa and Cafe Photo, but I'm nervous about wasting any of the precious few nights I'm here. I'll probably go there on an off-day, maybe Friday or Saturday. I also want to try out some online escorts from Twitter / Clubmodel / SPlove.
    I always feel like the clinicas don't get enough love here on ISG. I do want to preface with what I am about to say with this: if you are in the mindset of fucking nothing but model type girls in SP, then Scandallo is the route to go. Period. But if you have the time and patience and don't mind fucking GFE 7's then the clinicas are a great choice.

    Although Abbobora, Prime, and Miruna are 3 of the more popular clinicas among us gringos, they are just the tip of the iceberg. By my rough estimate, I say there are at least 70 clinicas + prives in the city of SP alone. There are also numerous clinicas + prives in the surrounding cities of Santo Andre, SBC, Guarulhos, Osasco, etc. Lets just be conservative and say each one has an average of 5 girls in their lineup, then you are looking at 350 girls. I've stayed in SP for 6 months last year. And to me, although Prime had a decent if not consistent lineup, it was top heavy IMO. Miruna's lineup was bad every time I visited it. I don't know about Abbobora since I never visited it. I was visiting 3-5 clinicas everyday, mostly ones rarely visited by us gringos, and I almost always found someone I liked. There were many days where I had a hard time choosing which ones to visit. I will be objective and say that the majority of the clinica girls are 6 or below (face). About 0 (rare) - 5 (at each clinica) in the range of 7, 0 - 2 in the range of 8. As for 9's, I would say I probably sessioned with 5 in total. So the clinica route will definitely be a grind if you want to find the 8's and above. Broaden your horizon and go explore a bit. I promise you will be positively surprised. One of the gems on my last trip was Clinica Morengo in Tatuape. I had more sessions there than any other clinicas. They have closed down now but they moved to a new address with a new name, Clinica Diamente. Other clinicas worth visiting that are outside of the city are Clinica Nova Campestre and CLínica Prime (formerly Manhattan) in Santo Andre, and CLínica Mansão Elite in SBC. I even bumped into several girls who worked in SP at these clinicas.

  13. #13555

    Japanese girls?

    With 2 million people of Japanese descent in São Paulo, I thought there would be more Japanese working girls. I am Asian and Japanese looking enough that the locals always think I live there and even ask me for directions on the street. I looked on my last trip and found very few Japanese girls even online. And a bunch of them are fake Japanese. Even on the local forum, guys have asked and very few responses. I would like there would be Japanese clinicas or prives, maybe they are a hidden secret for just the locals like some Chinese only massage parlors in Flushing New York. Maybe I can get in since I can pass off as Japanese. Hahaha. Not sure if anybody here knows. Much appreciated.

  14. #13554

    Back in Sao Paulo

    Fresh off a broken heart, I decided that there was no better place to spend my time than Sau Paulo. And so far, I've been proven correct!

    There was no question about where I would spend my first night. Scandallo. This is Formula 1 week, which is supposed to be pretty much peak Scandallo, so I didn't want to miss it. On Wednesday night, it was absolutely packed, way way busier than it was on any of my previous visits. In addition to it being F1 week, there was also a famous live Brazilian band performance that night, which made it extra crowded. Furthermore, the entry fee was 800 of which 300 was consumption. I wonder if it's going to be like that all F1 week, or just because of the concert.

    Inside, as I said, absolutely packed. Tons of dudes and girls. There had to have been about 300 girls that night. I remember standing in the back outdoor patio and quickly losing count of all the chicks. As usual, the majority of girls I wouldn't have paid to fuck. In fact, I would say there were many more chunky types than I saw before, but that just might be because there were more women in general. But rest assured, there were many many hotties as well.

    This time around I was a bit more proactive and I was moving around, walking, and trying to chat with girls I liked rather than having them come by me. Well, I was kinda forced to haha because there was not a single table available for people who were not buying bottles. I like the proactive approach, it's like I'm on the hunt. It still wasn't easy though. The girls are often on the move which makes it very easy to lose track of them. I was eyeing this one girl but she quickly disappeared to another room with her friend. I decided to risk the creepy vibe by following her, but she had disappeared. Oh well.

    I finally bagged my classic Brazilian blonde, a tall one from German stock who claims to only have started at Scandallo 3 days ago. I did get a bit of a business-like vibe from her, namely she wasn't super flirty / close to me, and asked me if I wanted to go to the room (I usually broach that subject with the girls, not the other way around). But I was determined that I just had to have a hot blonde tonight, and I was letting her get away. And fortunately, she gave a very solid performance in the room. Great kissing, BBBJ, no BS. I have yet to be disappointed at Scandallo. Money-wise, she opened negotiations at 1500, I countered with 600, then 800, and then we settled on 1000.

    Total damage was 500 entry + 300 consumption + 250 ish for the room + 1000 for the girl = 2050 BRL = 380 USD. It's a bit expensive, but whatever. You know what you're getting yourself into when you come here.

    The next day, Thursday afternoon, I decided to head out to the clinicas again. I wanted to give them another shot, because the last time I came was during a holiday week. There were more chicks this time, but my assessment of the clinicas remains the same. It's just not the right setup for me. First of all, there simply are not that many hot women. Across Abbobora, Miruna, and Prime I only saw maybe 2 or 3 that I would consider picking. And with such little opportunity to build any chemistry, really only looking at them for 10 seconds during the presentation, and being stone cold sober (I guess that one's my fault haha), I really did not feel the vibes. I picked a girl at Abbobora, but I just had absolutely no desire to put my P in her V, even though she was pretty cute. I would have been ok with just a BJ, but after going for a while she wasn't amazing and I had mentally checked out. So I called it a day, and decided to save my masculine essences for the upcoming night at Scandallo. Waste of 260 BRL (Abbobora does not have a half hour option), but it's less than 50 USD so I'm not too concerned.

    So yeah, I think I'll pretty much just stick with Scandallo. I want to check out Bomboa and Cafe Photo, but I'm nervous about wasting any of the precious few nights I'm here. I'll probably go there on an off-day, maybe Friday or Saturday. I also want to try out some online escorts from Twitter / Clubmodel / SPlove.

  15. #13553
    Quote Originally Posted by Bearsi  [View Original Post]
    We both had decent sessions but nothing to brag home about just yet. I had booked an online girl a week before I arrived in SP and so I had to go and get ready for this girl since she was the one I was eagerly waiting for. Of course she was about an hour late, even with timely reminders and messages but when she arrived she was exactly what I wanted and traveled 9 hours for! Lets call her Harley.

    She was a young white redhead german-brazilian from Porto Alegre. Feisty sex addict girl with a heart of gold. A real Madonna with horns. Session was incredible and she ended up staying way past her hour to keep me company. Very GFE, as one poster stated, these girls act like ambassadors of Brazil to foreigners! One of the main reason I would bestow Brazil as the top destination for mongering is this very reason. I liked the girls in Barcelona and Montreal but you wouldn't ever get this type of GFE over there. I would later learn this was only the beginning. I jokingly asked her if she wanted to go to RJ with me in 10 days and she said she would think about it and gave me her personal number.
    Bearsi,

    Great report! Thanks on the clinica intel.

    I'm curious. Is "Harley" an escort that advertises on-line? (I realize that you made up that name.) If so, perhaps we can ask you to divulge her website. These girls need the business and we guys could use reliable escort contacts.

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