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Brooklin
Originally Posted by Nordico
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.....For the information of the members who hasn't visited Brooklin yet, the rooms upstairs are better because they have beds and not mattresses.
Not all of the rooms will have beds. You must have gotten lucky. I was in SP back in June. Did 2 sessions upstairs. Both of the rooms I was in had mattresses on the floor.
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Originally Posted by TheCane
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That's exactly what I tried to do too. Negotiate it in advance, but as I wrote, the overwhelming majority of the girls just outright refused to do CIM. And it wasn't a matter of my communication skills either. Bianca at Miruna knew exactly what I wanted but said no, it would have to be covered when it was time to finish. I guess I could have added that I would pay extra, like I do for anal when that's on offer, but the service does in fact need to be on the menu in the first place before offering to pay more for it will mean anything to the girl. The strong sense that I got was that the girls I chose were simply opposed to doing CIM, regardless of what I might offer to pay for it. Bianca gladly asked 50 reals extra for anal, but showed no interest at all in CIM at any price. That was my general experience in Sampa with regard to this. I think that the fact that you are a regular at these clinicas and a known commodity works greatly to your advantage in consistently getting CIM service. Probably has something to do with the overall type of girls you pick too. Who knows. All I know is that CIM was hard to obtain for me!
It sounds like AltoBomGosto commands Portuguese and screens the girls making them know he is willing to pay more and that it's a deal-breaker. He is also obviously a regular at some of these establishments. The girls might also know that if they are good performers he will recommend them to others.
I'm not sure how you feel about escorts, but Sao Paulo has a great escort (acompanhante) scene. Surprisingly, many of the top escorts offer CIM and anal. It sounds like you have some knowledge of Portuguese. With some limited Portuguese, it's very easy to use gpguia and quickly figure out which escorts offer CIM and anal. If the woman offers these services, it's usually inclusive in her fee.
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Originally Posted by Rahsta
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I started going to Rio in 2007, so around the same time. Pretty much all the girls in Help where available. Compare to Scandallo, Help had alot better mix a females. All shapes and colors, Scandallo has 95% European flavor. Help was a more party, club vibe than Scandallo at least to me. Scandallo is bigger in size than Help, but Help was big for club.
I think 95% is too high based on my visits (admittedly few). I would go with 85%.
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Originally Posted by WyattEarp
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I don't mean to be argumentative, but I recall a very different Help. Help was kind of a giant Terma except for the rooms. On a big night, there could easily be a 100 plus woman in and out of Help. 95% who were available for hire. There were many European-looking 8 and 9's mixed in with the Morenas and Negras. The fair girls from the South were represented. In fact, some of the Centaurus girls would show up and get top dollar. I hooked up once with a fair skinned Reddish-Blonde woman who was easily a 9. 5. She made some easy money stripping in Miami and at my apartment acted like she was doing me a favor.
Help had a self-selection process. The 5's and 6's usually stayed outside in the cafe and the hot girls would generally go into the club. I don't know what the girls paid to get into Help. I'm sure Scandallo has a self-selection (or management selection) process like that as well.
The years visited could make a difference. I dropped into Help in 2008-2009 a couple times when the Brazilian Real was crazy strong and during the USA Financial crisis. There seemed to be less people. It didn't look like the period 2000-2006. I actually don't remember any seasonal variations in this hey day either. It was just always busy.
I'm guessing one big difference now might be the prevalence of fake breasts (me no like). I have no idea how many Brasileiras now have fake butts. I shudder to think.
I started going to Rio in 2007, so around the same time. Pretty much all the girls in Help where available. Compare to Scandallo, Help had alot better mix a females. All shapes and colors, Scandallo has 95% European flavor. Help was a more party, club vibe than Scandallo at least to me. Scandallo is bigger in size than Help, but Help was big for club.
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Hotel
Originally Posted by Nordico
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Thank You for your kind words and for your great detailed report. Lots of valuable information, specially for the clubs. I might have missed the name of the hotel you stayed in, will reread later when I have more time. If not, please let me know.
For the information of the members who hasn't visited Brooklin yet, the rooms upstairs are better because they have beds and not mattresses.
The hotel was the Mercure Sao Paulo Privilege. Although I liked Moema well enough in general, I did not like that hotel and would not stay there again. The one problem that I found with Moema was that there just weren't that many hotels located there, especially perfectly placed like the Sao Paulo Privilege is. At least not presented on the sites I looked at when planning to book a room. So, there's a bit of a dilemma. I like Moema (close to many, many clinicas including Miruna) but where to stay? I just might pick some other part of town next time. Maybe a nice place closer to Scandallo LOL!
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Scandallo-Help Comparison
Originally Posted by Rahsta
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Scandallo is a 5 star Terma and Help was a regular club. Scandallo has alot of Centrarus type females meaning European 8's and 9's. Help has girls from all over Rio and parts of Brazil. Help had mainly negras and morenas with a few European types. I went to Scandallo on a Wednesday and Thursday, and on Wednesday I say they had about 40 -50 girls and on Thursday they had about 60. Scandallo is a big, big place. Help was big also but Scandallo is way bigger.
I don't mean to be argumentative, but I recall a very different Help. Help was kind of a giant Terma except for the rooms. On a big night, there could easily be a 100 plus woman in and out of Help. 95% who were available for hire. There were many European-looking 8 and 9's mixed in with the Morenas and Negras. The fair girls from the South were represented. In fact, some of the Centaurus girls would show up and get top dollar. I hooked up once with a fair skinned Reddish-Blonde woman who was easily a 9. 5. She made some easy money stripping in Miami and at my apartment acted like she was doing me a favor.
Help had a self-selection process. The 5's and 6's usually stayed outside in the cafe and the hot girls would generally go into the club. I don't know what the girls paid to get into Help. I'm sure Scandallo has a self-selection (or management selection) process like that as well.
The years visited could make a difference. I dropped into Help in 2008-2009 a couple times when the Brazilian Real was crazy strong and during the USA Financial crisis. There seemed to be less people. It didn't look like the period 2000-2006. I actually don't remember any seasonal variations in this hey day either. It was just always busy.
I'm guessing one big difference now might be the prevalence of fake breasts (me no like). I have no idea how many Brasileiras now have fake butts. I shudder to think.
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Mr. Cane
Thank You for your kind words and for your great detailed report. Lots of valuable information, specially for the clubs. I might have missed the name of the hotel you stayed in, will reread later when I have more time. If not, please let me know.
For the information of the members who hasn't visited Brooklin yet, the rooms upstairs are better because they have beds and not mattresses.
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Originally Posted by Rahsta
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Scandallo is a 5 star Terma and Help was a regular club. Scandallo has alot of Centrarus type females meaning European 8's and 9's. Help has girls from all over Rio and parts of Brazil. Help had mainly negras and morenas with a few European types. I went to Scandallo on a Wednesday and Thursday, and on Wednesday I say they had about 40 -50 girls and on Thursday they had about 60. Scandallo is a big, big place. Help was big also but Scandallo is way bigger.
I think those comparisons are fair enough. Scandallo is indeed a huge place! I went on Friday and Saturday nights and would say I saw a good "critical mass" of morenas in there (Annie for example) as well as the Centaurus European types (Sarah and Grazie for example). You won't find a lot of negras (only saw one) or Asian girls (didn't see any) at Scandallo. In fact, I recall seeing only one Asian working girl during my trip, and I believe that may have been at clinica Brooklin where I sessioned with Sol. But don't quite me on that.
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Originally Posted by WyattEarp
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Great reports. Good for you my friend. You have more stamina than me.
Since you have 25 years of mongering, perhaps you are able to compare Scandallo to Help in it's hey day (early-mid 2000's). The sheer quality and the sheer quantity would give some of us who've been around a reference point.
You've already inspired me with the diversity of talent.
Thanks!!
Scandallo is a 5 star Terma and Help was a regular club. Scandallo has alot of Centrarus type females meaning European 8's and 9's. Help has girls from all over Rio and parts of Brazil. Help had mainly negras and morenas with a few European types. I went to Scandallo on a Wednesday and Thursday, and on Wednesday I say they had about 40 -50 girls and on Thursday they had about 60. Scandallo is a big, big place. Help was big also but Scandallo is way bigger.
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Originally Posted by AltoBomGosto
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I always negociate BBBJ / CIM prior going to season with the girl. Good practice is to ask the maneger who are the girls who do BBBJ / CIM.
ABG.
That's exactly what I tried to do too. Negotiate it in advance, but as I wrote, the overwhelming majority of the girls just outright refused to do CIM. And it wasn't a matter of my communication skills either. Bianca at Miruna knew exactly what I wanted but said no, it would have to be covered when it was time to finish. I guess I could have added that I would pay extra, like I do for anal when that's on offer, but the service does in fact need to be on the menu in the first place before offering to pay more for it will mean anything to the girl. The strong sense that I got was that the girls I chose were simply opposed to doing CIM, regardless of what I might offer to pay for it. Bianca gladly asked 50 reals extra for anal, but showed no interest at all in CIM at any price. That was my general experience in Sampa with regard to this. I think that the fact that you are a regular at these clinicas and a known commodity works greatly to your advantage in consistently getting CIM service. Probably has something to do with the overall type of girls you pick too. Who knows. All I know is that CIM was hard to obtain for me!
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Originally Posted by WyattEarp
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Great reports. Good for you my friend. You have more stamina than me.
Since you have 25 years of mongering, perhaps you are able to compare Scandallo to Help in it's hey day (early-mid 2000's). The sheer quality and the sheer quantity would give some of us who've been around a reference point.
You've already inspired me with the diversity of talent.
Thanks!!
First of all, I haven't been mongering that long. I said that I've only gotten shit-faced drunk in the last 25 years, both times in Brazil. Once in Rio, then of course this last time in Sao Paulo. Second, by the time I started going to Brazil, Club Helpee was already well past its prime. I really was not a fan of the place when I started going because I just didn't see a lot of girls in there that I found attractive. Now with Scandallo, every where I turned I was seeing hotties! So sorry, I don't have the years of Brazil mongering experience to make the kind of comparison you request. Perhaps somebody else here can help.
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Great Reports. The Cane
Great reports. Good for you my friend. You have more stamina than me.
Since you have 25 years of mongering, perhaps you are able to compare Scandallo to Help in it's hey day (early-mid 2000's). The sheer quality and the sheer quantity would give some of us who've been around a reference point.
You've already inspired me with the diversity of talent.
Thanks!!
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Kelly Morena
Second TD at Tangará with Kelly, 50 extra Reais for an excellent BBBJTC.
Another great performer!
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Ingrid at Tangará
I am at Tangará now just did a TD with Ingrid, spoke to her telling she will get an extra 50 Reais for the BBBJTC, she did it with great enthusiasm, if someone is looking for an excellent job she is the one.
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Originally Posted by Crazy2282
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Hello all,
I am new to forum and about to visit Brazil. I will be in Sao Jose dos Campos area. Can you give me any advise on what is good place there to meet true Brazilian beauty? I see some motels but I assume you have to make your own arrangement correct?
Can't help you buddy, try to find some independent girl at club model.
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