Sao Paulo Reports

[Vagabundo1]

I'm not going to carry on a debate. Yes, to each his own. I would commend bubba boy's guide, the sections on mini relationships. IMHO, my goal in mongering in termas, prives or freelancers is the minirelationship, as BB describes. I have had it when I am in Brazil only 1 or 2 weeks a few times a year, and it is easier of course if longer. But if a man just wants a bang in a terma, hey that's fine. It's all good.

it will always be a very "subjective"

[The Cane]

The lineup in FKKs (European sauna clubs) is thin as a result of most of the working girls going home for Christmas and lineup doesn't get back to normal until end of January.

I would like ask those who are familiar with SP and Rio scene, what kind of impact does Christmas and New years time has on boetes, clinicas and termas in terms of quality and strength of lineup?

So don't be hard-headed and not listen. Don't do it! Just like in Europe, the girls have family and friends and want to enjoy the holiday season just like everybody else.

[Lalabo]

The lineup in FKKs (European sauna clubs) is thin as a result of most of the working girls going home for Christmas and lineup doesn't get back to normal until end of January.

I would like ask those who are familiar with SP and Rio scene, what kind of impact does Christmas and New years time has on boetes, clinicas and termas in terms of quality and strength of lineup?

[Global00]

I spent Thursday through Saturday running through clinicas, boated and sugar babies including one laying next to me right now.

I'm staying at Mercure New York Time Square. It's walking distance to the clinicas and there are tons of local restaurants around. Paid $77 for 3 nights for modest king size bed room with everything in working order. I had no problem bring girls up which I usually brought up during the night. Didn't have to registered them and walked straight up to the hotel room. I will start off work the clinicas.

CLínica Prime.

I went around 2:30 pm on Thursday. Only one other guy there. About 9 girls presented. Mostly all thin brancas who look very girl next door. Nothing stood out to me (disclaimer: I like curves and none were found here). Didn't inquire about prices. Never returned. Didn't inquire about prices. Age range seem like early 20's to early 30's.

CLínica Carina.

Walked over from Prime, sat down and was handed a tablets with about 9 girls to chose from. The pictures looked very nice and heavily photoshopped. All the girls looked hot but without seeing them in person, I passed. Didn't inquire about prices and never returned.

Age range seem like early 20's to early 30's.

CLínica Abbobora.

Walked over from Carinas, it was raining a little bit by this time. About 14-15 girls presented with a mix of Morenas and brancas from decent to very fuckable. Nothing super hot to me but definitely I could see the appeal of this place above others. There were two many names for me to remember but I would say this one had among the best looking CLínica girls but don't get your hopes up to high if you like curves. Age range seem like early 20's to early 30's. Didn't inquire about prices and never returned.

CLínica Brooklyn.

I went here on Friday around 3 pm. I usually am about to find something I like here but didn't that day. There were about 10 forks there from average to good looking. Nothing special. A mix of brancas, Morenas and one chocolate. Lacking the curves I seek. Age range from early 20's to one that look like she was in her late 40's. When she walked out I was surprise. Definitely wasn't as a talented line up as the past but had the most guys waiting around. Another interesting thing is they made everyone put on shoe covers for some unexplained reason. I didn't inquire about recent prices and didn't return.

CLínica Kin.

Down the street from Brooklin and down an alley, I went and was presented with a mediocre line up of about 7 girls. There was one decent talk Branca with black hair and a shorter Branca with black hair. Age range seem mid 20-30's. Nothing that peaked my interest. Didn't inquire about prices.

CLínica Tangará.

Went around 4 pm on Friday. About 20 plus girls with about 6 guys waiting around. This place had the most variety of looks, skin colors, body shapes and probably the youngest looking girls. Three of them looked uncomfortably young. Been here multiple times and ever since ABG is no longer around the talent has went down to me. Didn't inquire about current prices.

CLínica Miruna.

Went here two days in a row but only sessioned once. About 8-9 girls each day. Similar quality to Abbobora in my opinion. Age range from 20-30. Brancas and morenas with some curves. I went with 26 year old Paulista Raquel. Tall, beauty brown skin, Spanish Portuguese mix. She has one of the nicest natural bodies I seen with perfect but breasts, flat stomach and curvy hips. To me she could work in all the high end Boates against what I seen (more on them later). The sex was great. Tight, wet and seemed into and did anal for 100 reais. Came twice, exchanged numbers and sheet had been writing me ever since wanting to stay over. Paid 260 with card for one hour.

Scandallo.

I never visited Scandallo on the multiple times I've been to SP so I decided to give it a shot. I believe one of the members said it was open from 5 pm to 9 pm but one of the girls said it's open from noon to 9 pm. She also told me if you fuck in house you can stay past 9 pm. I paid 300 to get in and half was used on a steak dinner and a guarana. Seemed a slight bit more girls to guys. I would guess 50 plus girls in the place and it pretty much had everything for everyone's taste. A lot of surgery up in here different from the clinicas but alot of food looking women. When Casarão was open, it has equivalent or hitter talent at the time. Girls were very aggressive soon as I walked in got approached and proposition many times All starting with 1000-1100 for an hour but all went down to 500. Got a few numbers, ate my food and went back to the tellie and met up with a sugar baby for the night.

Connections.

Arrived there at 1:30 am, place was pretty packed. 100 reais entry. About 40-50 girls. Some of the same girls from Scandallo were there. Again reminded me of Casarão. I had two sessions here one a 3 some and the other with just one girl. The 3 some was with two pretty Italian looking big butt cariocas who proposition me on the 3 some. Usually I don't like but they said I could go back in forth with the same condom. They started with 600 reais each but talked down to 400. Of we went and it was a really good session. One was into way than the other but they did well enough to please me besides the covered BJ which I didn't negotiate beforehand but the one into insisted I tested her oral skills. Paid $140 for the room. Note: if you pay with a card they charge 10 percent for the session but not the room which you pay after you finish.

The second session was with 27 year old morena with blonde hair from Porto Alegre. I told her you look different than any other person I met from there. She had surgery on her face and body, bolt ONS and ass. We agreed on 300 with anal included. It was a really good session. Her pussy was surprisingly tight, tighter than her ass. Two nuts and she wanted to keep fucking. She told me she lives in the same hotel I'm staying at and offered to drive me home and wanted me to stay with her and go to breakfast or lunch. She showed me she was an influencer with like 50 k followers and doesn't work there much. I never ended up contacting her. Just too busy with other girls. I stayed at connections until the closed around 5 am.

Seeking arrangement.

I decided to try SA website to see what I could find and if I could get girls to bareback. There wasn't alot of curvy talent in SP on the site but I was able to make agreements with like 5 girls who was willing to do bareback and anal. The price for all night ranger from 300-500 reais. I only sessioned with two of the girls because one flaked, one didn't look like her pictures and one try to change the agreement for more money. The two girls were nothing to write home about but one has nice breast and the other has a medium big ass. The sessions were good but I probably wouldn't look for girls on the site in Sao Paulo. There are just way better looking options out there.

Definitely enjoyed my stay in SP as always. I didn't experience the amount of quality that I did on previous trips and actually prefer my first leg and Rio because I encountered more curves. Next up is a new city of the beaten path in Goaina. Wish me luck.

[Steve 9696]

I would tend to agree with that take, but ultimat

Mr. V, Steve talked about enjoying and wanting the paid illusion of dating a pro (short-term) as if she were a girlfriend. I suspect, due to the fact, GFE sex (with whom you have a connection), is ultimately the best sex for him (and perhaps for modicum of us).

From the questions you pose, it sounds like you've taken sim dates with Pros? If so, isn't this then the very same thing as Steve's dating his Brazilian PROs/semi-Pro's in London...

Def the GFE sex is great and the connection helps. But for me it's more than that. I LOVE the non-bedroom time with a 23 year old girl experiencing new things. For Thifany, her first international trip, eating seafood tapas at a high end restaurant on her birthday. (her passport doesn't lie). Dancing till 3 AM with the hottest girl in the club.

Or Alexa. Pedicab ride by the ocean at night drinking wine from the bottle and smoking cigars. Or her first time ever swimming in the ocean. (!) She'd get knocked down by breakers and come up laughing her ass off.

Seriously, am I the only guy that likes hanging with 23 year old hotties 24x7? Cuz damn I do adore it!

(Thifany was a lucky Boate find (Fazendinha, in Campinas but shes from Rio) but mostly Seeking Arrangement rules for this kinda thing).

[Spidy]

The point is not that spending any particular amount is wrong, but that it does not always equate to good sex or better sex.

I would tend to agree with that take, but ultimately it will always be a very "subjective" and depends on your predilection to your individual preferences, and what you consider "better sex". For some it's anal, for others it's BBFS, for some PSE, yet others prefer "safe" covered sex with the most "attractive" GDP, they can find...etc

However, when an agreed up price has been established and the mood takes me, I've often found a further "incentivized" GDP Brasileira, will typically produce better sex.

... those who pay for sex and say goodbye at the end of an hour. And those that love having a paid girlfriend. I am the latter. I want the dinners. I want the dancing and sleep overs. But I'm not fool enough to think a 23 year old 9 is hanging with me because my fifty-something-ness is flat out awesome. I pay for the illusion and I enjoy it.

Mr. V, Steve talked about enjoying and wanting the paid illusion of dating a pro (short-term) as if she were a girlfriend. I suspect, due to the fact, GFE sex (with whom you have a connection), is ultimately the best sex for him (and perhaps for modicum of us).

How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.

From the questions you pose, it sounds like you've taken similar dates with Pros? If so, isn't this then the very same thing as Steve's dating his Brazilian PROs/semi-Pro's in London (albeit on a different scale)?

Now let me qualify this, as you did say (in the Rio thread):

The point of this missive is that Mr. E was spot on right, stop trying to find a meaningful relationship with hookers. Or ex hookers.

Now, once again, I think, "meaningful" is one of those things that is very subjective and scalable.

So, on the one hand, the dating and/or a short-term relationship with a Pro/Semi-Pro, has to be "meaningful", on some minor level or else why bother to take them anywhere, let alone Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail or Petropolis. And on the other end of the scale, there is traditional usage of "meaningful", as in the pursuit of a LTR, significant other, marriage and / or kids. As I'm sure, there is a whole lot of "meaningful", somewhere in between too.

Just saying, something to think about either way, when applying "meaningful" with dating/relationships.

[EverythingBlue]

Spain has been one of my favorite destinations in Europe for a long time, and not just for the mongering either. But plentiful mongering options it does have! Following is a link to the reports I did for my last trip, which included some time along the Costa del Sol (includes Malaga). The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s") and Estark 92 (link includes a CDS-focused report covering both clubs). There's no such thing as a Scandallo Sao Paulo "equivalent". Or if there is, I haven't found it yet. I would say the closest I have personally experienced is Globe Zurich (which really is not an apples to apples comparison). But of course, there are many other options out there around the world offering a good time for the adventurous monger. If you're serious about Malaga and the CDS, then you should be reading and asking questions in the appropriate Spanish threads. This will give you a head start: http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2170210.

Just want to say thanks for the link. I'm in the process of deciding if I should go to Brazil or Spain for my first mongering / tourist trip. I'm a complete newbie, and have been reading the Rio & Sao Paulo Reports a lot lately. I speak no Portuguese, but fluent in Spanish, and I plan on going solo. All the info I've found here has been very helpful. The reports by SK have been great to read as well. I've seen a Bubba Boy report mentioned a lot, but I noticed its dated from 2012 so I'm guessing it might be outdated, but still worth a read? Anyhow, I'll continue RTFF. But if anyone wants to throw me a bone I'll appreciate any and all feedback!

[Steve 9696]

Spain has been one of my favorite destinations in Europe for a long time, and not just for the mongering either. But plentiful mongering options it does have! Following is a link to the reports I did for my last trip, which included some time along the Costa del Sol (includes Malaga). The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s") and Estark 92 (link includes a CDS-focused report covering both clubs). There's no such thing as a Scandallo Sao Paulo "equivalent". Or if there is, I haven't found it yet. I would say the closest I have personally experienced is Globe Zurich (which really is not an apples to apples comparison). But of course, there are many other options out there around the world offering a good time for the adventurous monger. If you're serious about Malaga and the CDS, then you should be reading and asking questions in the appropriate Spanish threads. This will give you a head start: http://www.InternationalSexGuide.nl/forum/showthread.php?p=2170210.

Yes already talking to PAyforit, the resident expert, in the CDS thread. Just wanted some other perspective from the rest of this learned crew. I both love and hate Globe. I love it for slim girls with guaranteed amazing service (Kate, Tina, Simina I'm looking st you!) but I feel like you absolutely have to chase the girls and "qualify" to be done as they are so busy. Not really complaining don't enjoy being hounded by 5/6's at Sharks on the other end.

HarvestBoi I agree Aphrodisia is a once in a lifetime experience and I LOVED it. But with two samples I found the service a bit lackluster on the BBBJ for $280/ half or $380/45 which is just heartstopping for fully legal pussy. Still glad I did it.

Germany just opened to US so if FKKs open that might be my first stop. Thanks again. That link is sure a treasure trove and u know I love this shit!

[Steve 9696]

Was very lackluster. Upon advice of a fellow ISG, went to check out Tangara. Waited an HR, but found nothing good.

Food

Coffee at "The Coffee" every day. Dinner at Komei https://www.komeirestaurante.com/menus. Japanese curry (Kare) and katsu with dumplings with a kirin beer. Total was about R70. It was ok. Good.

Laundry

The morning was spent doing laundry at "Lavanderia 60 Minutos", just a few blocks away from the hotel. R30 for wash (R15) and dry (R15) with detergent and softener automatically dispensed. But the bad thing about this place is that you need a CPF number to register for their website in order to access their WiFi. There was a guy cleaning the place, so I asked for his help, but he couldn't do anything about it. There was another guy waiting for his laundry. He saw that I couldn't get access and was gracious enough to share his wifi account. I swear, I love Brazilians! Everywhere I go, people offer to help me unsolicited. He even gave me his account in case I visited the lavanderia again.

Clinicas

Today was just shit luck. Went to Tangara and wasted too much time there. Then spent too much time wandering around in and eating in Liberdade. It was nice to just look around. But I don't think there are touristy destinations in the Sao Paulo main city area.

By the time I got to Prime, it was already 6 PM and I think most of the girls left. I asked for Alicee, receptionist lady told me to wait in the room. After 30 minutes, nobody came up. I thought she was finishing up with a customer and coming in. I got dressed again and went down. She misunderstood me, thought I said Lisa, not Alicee. So no sex today.

I was thinking about going to Connections with another ISGer. He went, but I was a bit disillusioned from the last visit with what I thought was a bad selection. It wasn't just that the girls weren't very attractive. Their personalities weren't great. Maybe due to our communication barrier. But it would be super obvious they're just trying to get me upstairs. Not much song and dance. They'd sit, ask if I want to go upstairs. Sometimes, make out, too. For the most part, I didn't find it appealing because I could do much prettier girls in the clinicas for much less.

By the time my ISG buddy texted me, it was already 12 AM and I needed to check out the next day, so I called it a night. Glad I did because the hotel wouldn't offer late checkout. Looks like they're almost completely booked. Glad to see they're doing well.

Responses

Thanks for the responses about my concerns RE: the prices I paid. Part of my reservation about listing the prices I paid for top tier Connections girl (Maria) was due to prior experience in the Vietnam forum where people get upset over how much I paid. Something along the lines of "Why ask for help and info if you're going to go and pay the inflated prices?" It sounds like this forum is a little less toxic. I have no regrets on paying Maria what I did. I would probably do it again. I felt a little bit of magic that I haven't experienced in a while. As you suspected, Natty, it was 700 =) and worth every real.

One goal of visiting Brazil is (other than getting laid) is to see how sustainable hobbying is here. I plan on retiring within a year. So keeping to a certain budget was important to me. And it has been paradise, to be able to do a different, beautiful girl almost every day for about 300 US a week. I could definitely imagine spending a good amount of the year here (probably during their winters).

Damn no shame at all to do takeout w a hottie like Maria at 700. That's actually a pretty fair price. Stop sweating the pennies — you going to kick urself when you get back stateside (or wherever) and you didn't spend every waking minute drinking and dancing and DFKing and fucking. Rock on sir!

[SinfullyKorean]

I requested one of my posts to be deleted. Can an admin please help me?

[SinfullyKorean]

Was very lackluster. Upon advice of a fellow ISG, went to check out Tangara. Waited an HR, but found nothing good.

Food

Coffee at "The Coffee" every day. Dinner at Komei https://www.komeirestaurante.com/menus. Japanese curry (Kare) and katsu with dumplings with a kirin beer. Total was about R70. It was ok. Good.

Laundry

The morning was spent doing laundry at "Lavanderia 60 Minutos", just a few blocks away from the hotel. R30 for wash (R15) and dry (R15) with detergent and softener automatically dispensed. But the bad thing about this place is that you need a CPF number to register for their website in order to access their WiFi. There was a guy cleaning the place, so I asked for his help, but he couldn't do anything about it. There was another guy waiting for his laundry. He saw that I couldn't get access and was gracious enough to share his wifi account. I swear, I love Brazilians! Everywhere I go, people offer to help me unsolicited. He even gave me his account in case I visited the lavanderia again.

Clinicas

Today was just shit luck. Went to Tangara and wasted too much time there. Then spent too much time wandering around in and eating in Liberdade. It was nice to just look around. But I don't think there are touristy destinations in the Sao Paulo main city area.

By the time I got to Prime, it was already 6 PM and I think most of the girls left. I asked for Alicee, receptionist lady told me to wait in the room. After 30 minutes, nobody came up. I thought she was finishing up with a customer and coming in. I got dressed again and went down. She misunderstood me, thought I said Lisa, not Alicee. So no sex today.

I was thinking about going to Connections with another ISGer. He went, but I was a bit disillusioned from the last visit with what I thought was a bad selection. It wasn't just that the girls weren't very attractive. Their personalities weren't great. Maybe due to our communication barrier. But it would be super obvious they're just trying to get me upstairs. Not much song and dance. They'd sit, ask if I want to go upstairs. Sometimes, make out, too. For the most part, I didn't find it appealing because I could do much prettier girls in the clinicas for much less.

By the time my ISG buddy texted me, it was already 12 AM and I needed to check out the next day, so I called it a night. Glad I did because the hotel wouldn't offer late checkout. Looks like they're almost completely booked. Glad to see they're doing well.

Responses

Thanks for the responses about my concerns RE: the prices I paid. Part of my reservation about listing the prices I paid for top tier Connections girl (Maria) was due to prior experience in the Vietnam forum where people get upset over how much I paid. Something along the lines of "Why ask for help and info if you're going to go and pay the inflated prices?" It sounds like this forum is a little less toxic. I have no regrets on paying Maria what I did. I would probably do it again. I felt a little bit of magic that I haven't experienced in a while. As you suspected, Natty, it was 700 =) and worth every real.

One goal of visiting Brazil is (other than getting laid) is to see how sustainable hobbying is here. I plan on retiring within a year. So keeping to a certain budget was important to me. And it has been paradise, to be able to do a different, beautiful girl almost every day for about 300 US a week. I could definitely imagine spending a good amount of the year here (probably during their winters).

[The Cane]

How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.

There was a blonde hottie at Termas 65 who was interested in going to Buzios with me, and she was the one who brought it up. That's not the way I like to play the game, at least not in the past anway, so I really didn't have any interest. The answer to your question from me would be zero, but that's OK. Not what I wanted to do anyway, but maybe some other time. We shall see!

[The Cane]

The two best clubs I found along the CDS were Scandalo (yes with one "s").

I meant one "l" for Malaga's "Scandalo" versus two for Sampa's "Scandallo".

[Vagabundo1]

The point is not that spending any particular amount is wrong, but that it does not always equate to good sex or better sex.

See the bubba boy report, search for good sex, search for mini relationships.

How many of those girls in pictures from tier 1 termas have you taken to Buzios, Ihla Grande, Arrail, Petropolis? How many stay the night for as many nights as you want.

I concur with the sentiments mentioned. You earned your money, you spend your money how you please. Life is too short. Do what and how you like and enjoy yourself.

[The Cane]

I must confess that when I feel that I've spent too much I tend to be a little worried, however, I'm totally envious of you guys who spend what you want and let others do the worrying for you, LOL.

If I'm worried that I spent too much that's one thing. But if somebody else is worried that I spent too much, well that's quite another LOL! We all have spending limits and budgets we need to keep in mind. It's just that once I've set mine according to my own personal requirements, I don't care what somebody else thinks about that. From the very first moment that I took on this hobby, I have 100% lived by the following. Make sure your bills are paid and your investments made before you get laid!