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  1. #10303
    Quote Originally Posted by FRobertson  [View Original Post]
    1) Yes I have mixed feelings about Abobora. Beautiful girls is a plus. Covered BJ is a huge minus. Girls are unrushed and friendly, and actually one slept on my shoulder for about half an hour, which was nice, that's also a plus.
    I have mixed feelings about SP's clinicas in general. Since Steve mentioned Abbobora, I will use it as my example.

    Abbobora is top notch in terms of its facilities in SP and there are very few casas de massagem in Rio that can match its hardware. In fact, I can safely say most clinicas beat out casas de massagem. One of the most annoying thing I hate about most of the casas de massagem in Centro Rio is how little privacy their "rooms" offer. Most are nothing more than cubicles which are separated by cheap partitions that does not not offer any soundproofing. I can't speak for other guys but I don't want to hear another guy fucking his girl when I'm trying to concentrate on my girl. Another advantage of an actual room is the convenience of an in-room shower. Trust me, you will take that for granted until you are forced to walk down the hall to take a shower. And even the low end clinicas in SP will have in-room showers. The only casa de massagem that I found comparable to SP's clinicas is Copa 583.

    In terms of lineup quality, Abbobora has one of the best in both SP and Rio. The girls are well mannered and professional, which is not a bad thing. But for me personally, they are a little too professional. What I mean by that is they will do all the services we expect from a clinica girl (good attitude, kissing, BBBJ, intercourse) but all in a less natural manner. And I find that to be the norm with the a lot of the clinica girls. Speaking from personal experience, I was given more GFE from girls in Rio's casas de massagem than with girls in SP's clinicas.

    On the topic of CBJ. I think it has to do more with the individual girl rather than a specific clinica / casa de massagem. Of the 4 sessions I had at Abbobora, all 4 of the girls gave me BBBJ. Of course I had girls who I sessioned with who gave me CBJ. But I found in most cases, the girls were newbies.

  2. #10302
    Quote Originally Posted by JimmyBoy99  [View Original Post]
    You can always ask to speak to the girl you like to see if she does what you want in a session before going with her to the room. I always do so and have never been told I couldn't speak to the girl.
    Asking discreetly = OK.

    Asking ostensibly = asking for trouble.

    You could speak with the girl, of course! But try to ask "e ai, me chupa sem camisinha ou andão" (hey, do you suck my dick without condom or what?) in a loud voice. You're asking for trouble. In a "Boate" it's ok, anyway. But in "clinicas" it's a huge NO NO.

    Some "high end" clinicas, in theory, you cannot have sex, just massage (LOL) but you can find a way ("Money is the world's greatest aphrodisiac" indeed).

  3. #10301

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    Quote Originally Posted by FRobertson  [View Original Post]
    1) Yes I have mixed feelings about Abobora. Beautiful girls is a plus. Covered BJ is a huge minus. Girls are unrushed and friendly, and actually one slept on my shoulder for about half an hour, which was nice, that's also a plus.

    2) Steve9696, your inbox is full.
    Mailbox is cleared. I am behind on reports and will catch up soon. Two great Scandallo reports to come. But mostly I am smitten by my new "girlfriend" in Argentina. We spent the better portion of three days together. And it was beyond epic. I can't share all the details here but will try to summarize the high points.

    Plus two more visits upcoming. Stay tuned.

  4. #10300
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Wowzer that was fun. There is sex in a couple positions and she masturbated some more for me as I finish (again no BBBJ sets me back)
    1) Yes I have mixed feelings about Abobora. Beautiful girls is a plus. Covered BJ is a huge minus. Girls are unrushed and friendly, and actually one slept on my shoulder for about half an hour, which was nice, that's also a plus.

    2) Steve9696, your inbox is full.

  5. #10299
    Quote Originally Posted by TommyBr  [View Original Post]
    Steve, you cannot negotiate nothing on the parade. Take the negotiation for the room, it will be more pleasant for both parties. But are $ 270 is fair for "clinica pacote". Little or no massage + BJ + intercourse + CIF or COHT.

    Above that we have Clinica Oro, Clinica Lotus, but it will cost a lot more. Fixed rate for the Clinica (250+), and a plus masseusse (200+). The installations are even more sophisticated, the girls more pretty etc etc. You have what you pay for.
    You can always ask to speak to the girl you like to see if she does what you want in a session before going with her to the room. I always do so and have never been told I couldn't speak to the girl.

  6. #10298
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Upon arrival you may be a little confused because there is no Abbobora sign. There is a Shiga sign and a long hall to what you assume is a Japanese restaurant. This is the place. Continue down the hall and the receptionist will greet you. A little Portuguese is very helpful. It's R270 payable in advance. This is high for a Clinica but completely justified by the venue, as you will see.

    P.S. I guess you can negotiate services during the parade but that seems very awkward and didn't occur to me. So the experience was as expected of a very young woman.

    We wrap things up get an Uber and on to my later adventures at Scandallo that night. Stay tuned.
    Steve, you cannot negotiate nothing on the parade. Take the negotiation for the room, it will be more pleasant for both parties. But are $ 270 is fair for "clinica pacote". Little or no massage + BJ + intercourse + CIF or COHT.

    Above that we have Clinica Oro, Clinica Lotus, but it will cost a lot more. Fixed rate for the Clinica (250+), and a plus masseusse (200+). The installations are even more sophisticated, the girls more pretty etc etc. You have what you pay for.

  7. #10297

    Great Time w Newbie at Abbobora

    So there are two principal types of venues in So Paulo: The Boate. At Night and the Clinica during the day. There are widely varying reports here on the CLnicas so I thought I best check it out. I had been to Tangar last year and while pleasant enough, my taste tends to run to the luxe side and Tangar is not that. It's very adequate facilities but nothing more.

    So I chose Abbobora as the most high end looking by web surfing standards. And it was a great choice.

    Upon arrival you may be a little confused because there is no Abbobora sign. There is a Shiga sign and a long hall to what you assume is a Japanese restaurant. This is the place. Continue down the hall and the receptionist will greet you. A little Portuguese is very helpful. It's R270 payable in advance. This is high for a Clinica but completely justified by the venue, as you will see.

    After paying we are walked back down the hall and across another small hall to where the presentation is done. Here you sit in a nice lobby and leather lounge chair where the girls are presented one by one. You need to do a bubble sort in your head as they come -- like oh I like Bianca best, next, ok still Bianca, next, still Bianca, next Ok Taina is top spot, next. And s on. Don't be too drunk it takes concentration! 😀.

    Let me tell you anyone who says you won't find someone to your liking at Abbobora is insane. Maybe I got lucky going around 6 on a Friday but I was pleasantly surprised. There were ten or so girls all doable in a pinch but I would say seven were very good and five exceptional. In the end I chose Taina.

    Taina is a young inexperienced girl and you could see that from the outset. 20 years old MAX. More likely 18. Super cute in her hot pants with just a touch of baby fat as she is transitioning from girl to woman. Definitely fresh and young. I thought this might be a fun change of pace and I was right.

    P.S. I guess you can negotiate services during the parade but that seems very awkward and didn't occur to me. So the experience was as expected of a very young woman.

    So they bring me back to reception. And I ask if there is anywhere I can get a drink beforehand. They say I should spend no more than ten minutes to not keep the girl waiting but show me to the upstairs bar. Wow! Small but swanky. Leather chairs and couches marble and granite everywhere. Abbobora is luxe throughout. In retrospect I would probably do this backwards next time -- enjoy some unrushed lounge time and then pick a girl.

    I have a Jack and Coke which is R40 as I recall and Taina shows about 10 minutes later. Wowza! And I take my drink with me as she shows me to our room. Again super nice. You can see pics of the rooms and the bar and all on their website. They are spot on.

    In the room she is as shy as you might expect an 18 year old newbie to be. A little kissing because she knows she is supposed to but often burying her face in my neck and shoulder area as we sway to the music. This does not bother me as it is exactly as I expect. I will be a gentleman (always am) and go at her pace.

    She showers then I shower and we get on the bed together. I don't remember all the details. I am four girls behind on my reporting! The highlight was being very tender with her and working her very slowly by mouth, where she built up super slow. Very small noises and could tell she was enjoying it but a super slow build. So I was probably down there for ten or so minutes and decide to work her by hand. She doesn't want FIV deep but her slot is plenty slippery and I need to work her clit anyhow.

    So I use my index finger and start working her in circles and back and forth with a little up and down the slit mixed in with (love that personally). Her clit is a little buried but I find the bump by feel and figure out she likes the back and forth more. So I work this for another ten minutes maybe (it's making me very hard watching and listening!) And we work up to a good strong O. She clamps her thighs closed on my hand like a vice! I work a bit more as she shudders through it but eventually she has to move my hand as she closes it out.

    Wowzer that was fun. There is sex in a couple positions and she masturbated some more for me as I finish (again no BBBJ sets me back) but really the whole session was about making this coming-of-age young woman get off in a powerful way. It was really great and just as I hoped going in.

    We wrap things up get an Uber and on to my later adventures at Scandallo that night. Stay tuned.

  8. #10296
    So recall I'd finished a nice but not spectacular round with Micela. A real cutie with a great voluptuous body. After we part ways I head back into Bomboa. When I had exited earlier they gave me two receipt cards. One for free entry that night and one for free entry on another day in the next week.

    So when I got back they hooked me up with a new wristband number and Ricardo instantly appeared. Ever the gentleman, he informs me that Jim is not back down yet but should not be long (we had agreed to meet back up). He says the bar will be the most comfortable place to wait.

    He sets me up a Jack and Coke and I conclude it is a great place to wait. There is the bar itself but all the stools are taken. And there is a half wall between the bar and the club where you can stand and take in all the eye candy. So I sip my drink and I wait.

    I am approached by a very pleasant looking girl with great English but not my type. After chatting a bit I don't want to keep her so I say I am just waiting for a friend and not going to the room again. She is disappointed but puts her number in my phone even tho I don't ask.

    As time passes, two seats open up at the bar. I take one and this other girl takes the one next to me. Since I am not in the market (planned to go to Scandallo for round 2) I don't pay too much attention to how she looks.

    Well it turns out she looks GREAT which I discover as she engages me. She speaks very little English but has a beautiful face and dynamite smile. She got my attention by whispering to me "I love to suck" followed a few seconds later with "I want to suck you". OK not much English but she knows the important stuff! And following my CBJ disappointment my interest is piqued-- tho I still plan to bail.

    She must sense my reluctance because she puts on the full court press. The proper way IMO. She sets about seducing me. And succeeds! First she just lightly kisses my neck and ears while pressing against me. Then a full on mouth kiss with DFK. We start making out pretty good and she can kiss. She's a tall girl so mish-kissing would be on the menu if I cave.

    She's already got me pretty worked up and she can feel my stiffy growing. No shy wallflower, she puts her hand right on it and starts surreptitiously stroking me while we make out, with her hand hidden between us. Of course I am a lightweight for this kinda stuff and start thinking about a room. Wisened up, I whisper "blowjob sem camisa" (without condom) YES BABY. And "leite na boca" (milk in mouth. CIM) OF COURSE BABY. Nice! She asks R800 and we agree R700. (NB for HB - $25 means absolutely nothing to me)

    Jim is still not back and I say we have to wait. This turns out to be great because we just make out like teenagers while waiting. Eventually all the cock rubbing takes its toll and I say Jim can take care of himself. Let's go! Exit fee this time is R150 for two jack and cokes and an appletini for Rafaela.

    Hotel check-in is the same and R190 fee. Oh this reminds me. I had used a private card to charge the earlier Bomboa tab and it's listed on my card as a Churrascaria! S that's a nice touch.

    In the room she is way more girlfriendy than Micela. Some great kissing and then offers a joint shower. Like Micela, she had been hiding a huge natural set behind a bustier. Don't know why they do that but a set of spectacular natural DeeCup tits spill out when unleashed.

    This reminds me. Both Micela and Rafaela are from Rio -- just like the famous Thifany. I don't know what they are doing up there but they should keep fucking and producing babes like this! This I think also speaks to the demise of the Rio scene. Why would these showstopping hotties commute to So Paulo otherwise?

    After the shower she puts me on my back on the bed and straddles me while kissing me deeply. Her pussy perilously close to my junk in a tantalizing way. Well it's no lie that she loves to suck because she goes down and does a great job, sem camisa, of course. Not the best ever but very credible and gets me worked to a good state.

    One of the most indelable images from our time together is her riding cowgirl. It's either the top one or two cowgirl visuals in my mental slideshow (Fortune being the other). She has her hands on my chest as she rides and those magical tits are pushed together in the most alluring way. And she's moaning and sighing with her gorgeous lips slightly parted. Hair cascading everywhere. Nice!

    When we switch to Mish it's really really good. Great pussy feel and lots of mish-kissing. She seems to really be into it as we can't always kiss because she is going "oh oh oh oh" in time with my thrusts, her mouth a perfect oval of perfect lips with a little teeth showing.

    Honestly I've found of late that one of the best ways to cum during a busy week of girls is to focus on her mouth when in cowgirl and Mish. Sure enough just watching her ohohohohoh as I thrust is just somehow gorgeous and sure enough I cum in Mish.

    Again joint shower. And she asks where I am staying. My hotel is just a few blocks from where she stays so I say I will walk her home. This is very nice as we walk hand in hand up the street for several blocks where I bid her goodnight. Sweet sweet girl and darn naughty with a banging body. Would repeat.

    Stay tuned boys. Three more girls in SP and an epic multi day event in BA still to come...

  9. #10295
    Quote Originally Posted by DreamCarnarvon  [View Original Post]
    Great report Steve, makes me feel like I'm actually there myself (well, almost). Lots of info for me to digest. I can't wait to check it out when I return to SP! Can you clarify a few things in your report?

    1) Are you always assigned a maitre'd or can it be refused?

    2) Which days are the best to go? Would there be more girls on Thursdays and Fridays than Mondays and Tuesdays?

    3) Is the hotel you mentioned a part of the boate? Can I take the girl to my own place and skip that hotel?

    I'm pretty sure this Micela girl would've given you a BBBJ if you repeated with her. But with hundreds of girls to choose from, its nothing to lose sleep over with. The good thing is BBBJ is the norm rather than the exception in Brasil.

    Looking forward to your next report.
    I wasn't assigned a maitre'd when I visited Bomboa.

  10. #10294

    Scandallo question

    Hey,

    Just wondering what day would be best to go to Scandallo during the week. I want there to be a good amount of girls but at the same time not crowded with guys.

  11. #10293
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    So I did start at Bomboa which is quite nearby. On arrival I paid the R270 fee and got my numbered wristband. They said "English?" and I said yes and they assigned me an English speaking maitre D and he was awesome the whole night.

    At the time I entered the club -- maybe 830 - probably 50 girls and way less guys. All pretty in their own way but I have a certain type. By midnight I'd say there were over a hundred girls there.

    So off Micela and I go to the hotel. It is literally 30 ft away. We stop for a smoke break which is nice and casual. Then up the stairs and pay the R190 hotel fee. Nice rooms. Big clean beds. Mirrors everywhere. Shower of course. Nice high end facility.

    That is OK. My next girl turns out to be every thing Micela was not. Still had a nice time and left plenty satisfied. Stay tuned.
    Great report Steve, makes me feel like I'm actually there myself (well, almost). Lots of info for me to digest. I can't wait to check it out when I return to SP! Can you clarify a few things in your report?

    1) Are you always assigned a maitre'd or can it be refused?

    2) Which days are the best to go? Would there be more girls on Thursdays and Fridays than Mondays and Tuesdays?

    3) Is the hotel you mentioned a part of the boate? Can I take the girl to my own place and skip that hotel?

    I'm pretty sure this Micela girl would've given you a BBBJ if you repeated with her. But with hundreds of girls to choose from, its nothing to lose sleep over with. The good thing is BBBJ is the norm rather than the exception in Brasil.

    Looking forward to your next report.

  12. #10292
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    So I landed late evening and the plan was to do both Bomboa and Scandallo. I'd have dinner at Bomboa and then hit Scandallo at midnight when it peaks. But as usual the best laid plans.


    She showers alone (again a little disappointing) and I shower and we pack up. I do write her a little note on Google translate and say to have a girlfriend I see multiple times I need BBBJ. She says OK it was just this first time. From now on without. But she's kinda already killed my infatuation with the fact she went covered and would not back off. Do no plan to repeat with her.

    That is OK. My next girl turns out to be every thing Micela was not. Still had a nice time and left plenty satisfied. Stay tuned.
    Well, some girls in "boates" are kinda smarty ass. You have to negotiate and negotiate. And be firm about that.

    And, about GFE in "boates" occur more in the 2nd or 3rd encounter.

  13. #10291
    Quote Originally Posted by Jbj64  [View Original Post]
    Ok I found a very cute one sasha in Jardins, actually loads but only messaged one and she wants 400 Real an hour so about $100 usd but she is so hot. It seems expensive for SP but wow so I will think about it.
    Not expensive, since you go to her place (flat). It's the price.

  14. #10290
    Quote Originally Posted by HarvestBoi  [View Original Post]
    But 700 for CBJ? Dude, you are losing your edge. I paid 600 for full on GFE including photos with my mulatta. I'll give you a mulligan because those garotas can cause a guy to lose his equilibrium, especially since you just got off the plane. Like you I'the just assume a girl would provide full GFE services. That she semi-scammed you, along with Ricardo's act makes me think Bomboa is seeing more than it's share of tourists.
    The key is to ask for what you want up front (which he said he did not do) and negotiate. If the girl is all for it, great! And if not, then you have to decide how much you want her, and how much you're ready for some specific thing, such as BBBJ / CIM, anal, etc.

  15. #10289
    Steve,

    Yeah that maitre'd is a bit of a pain in the ass. I had much the same experience and I was always a bit suspicious about giving him a tip in the kitchen or john but at the end of the day he was semi-useful and does make you feel like a baller. Next time at Bomboa I'd say nao obrigado tho.

    But 700 for CBJ? Dude, you are losing your edge. I paid 600 for full on GFE including photos with my mulatta. I'll give you a mulligan because those garotas can cause a guy to lose his equilibrium, especially since you just got off the plane. Like you I'the just assume a girl would provide full GFE services. That she semi-scammed you, along with Ricardo's act makes me think Bomboa is seeing more than it's share of tourists. The cheesy Top 40 cover band is another tip off. Still I liked the overall vibe of the place and will return.

    Look forward, as always, to your reports on Scandallo.

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