Sao Paulo Reports

[Wayne Roberts]

Bangkok and Pattaya always seemed like Sexual Disneyland to me. A Western male kind of goes there for one reason. That's not a criticism. That's just an observation.

I think some members like just posting up in one location and having everything in one place. Perhaps they also wanted a beach. Before the Help Disco in Rio was closed, Copacabana offered all that.

We're kind of trying to compare a lot of different variables. The aesthetic of Asian beauty versus the more diverse Brazilian looks with some strong Latin and Black influences. Then you have to ask do you want a beach and outdoor activities.

Don't get me wrong. Sao Paulo is a world-class city and draws many of the hottest women from all over Brazil.

I think there are a few countries that come out tops when it comes to our hobby, and its not hard to put together a top 5 that anyone could make an argument for. Thailand is Disneyland for men sure, but like every destination it has its place. Arguments could be made for Germany, Philippines or Colombia too I am sure. Most of the top destinations are going to offer something that the other places won't or can't, and then we all have our personal preferences on top.

Thailand should be compared to Brazil as a whole though. Pattaya and Bangkok should be compared to Rio and SP. Clubs should be compared to clubs. Not to get territorial or overly autistic at all, I just think that given a lot of people would be seeking information on where to plan a holiday and many have limited time with long flights, its important to be fair in these comparisons. I also think that a lot has changed post Covid, and a lot of guys are getting back on planes and planning their first trips, but the situation on the ground is quite different now and if people are relaying older information then its not going to be that accurate right now.

I can say that things in Thailand post Covid are not good at all. Prices are up, service quality is down and girl quality is abysmal it has never been this bad. There might be a few thousand girls to choose from on Walking Street in Pattaya right now, but:

The quality is bad and you are hunting for diamonds.

The top Gogos have hoovered up all the good looking girls, competition for girls is immense now.

The top gogos have drink minimums on top of large bar fines now. High salaries means girls need to sell drinks.

Bar fines are up. They don't want the girls leaving with customers, they want you there drinking to cover salary overhead.

Average total cost is going to be 1500-2000 BRL when you are done and dusted at the better gogos now. This is Pattaya, not Bangkok! These are not just Walking Street prices, this is LK Metro too.

The freelancer clubs are picking up, but rates are up too given rising gogo rates which are resetting the market. Expect to pay between 500 and 750 BRL for a club **** at around 2 am if she is a looker.

Knock shops and beer bars are Clinica prices for a session, and we are swimming in the gutters at this point you might as well be going to VM.

Freelancers off dating apps are the same stock as beer bars and knock shops mostly, similar pricing.

The exclusive BKK gents clubs are not 20 k-30 k baht by the time you are finished. Thats 3500 BRL. Thats what you should be comparting to the clubs in SP. The women in those clubs are the best Thailand has to offer at a price.

[WyattEarp]

I have spent a ton of time in Pattaya. Comparing the whole of Pattaya to Scandallo does a huge disservice to Sao Paulo, the scene there is massive. Its one club in a city full of world class options. Scandallo is like Insomnia, the largest freelancer club.

The quality of the women in Brazil smokes Thailand, its not close. Then when you consider performance, its an even bigger gap. There are some beautiful Thai women, but on average its a different league in Brazil.

Price wise, Scandallo is on the top end and not cheap but the quality is insane. Not just the women, everything about that club is world class. Nothing in Pattaya would match it, and while the high end gentlemen's clubs in Bangkok would push places like Bomboa there is nothing like Scandallo there either. Price wise in BKK these clubs will set you back the same though, easily. Same goes for Thailand as a whole, the cost of sex is not much lower than Brazil anymore and I would say its actually on par.

Don't get me wrong, I have had an amazing time in Pattaya over the years and will still visit. Its great for golf, the hotel options are amazing, a lot of good restaurants, and the best thing about is that everything is concentrated in a few walkable areas, so I can understand the appeal of that compared to Sao Paulo and even Rio. But unless you want to spend all day drinking, it gets old quickly. 4-5 days is plenty in that place, and to be honest its a bit of a dump.

Bangkok and Pattaya always seemed like Sexual Disneyland to me. A Western male kind of goes there for one reason. That's not a criticism. That's just an observation.

I think some members like just posting up in one location and having everything in one place. Perhaps they also wanted a beach. Before the Help Disco in Rio was closed, Copacabana offered all that.

We're kind of trying to compare a lot of different variables. The aesthetic of Asian beauty versus the more diverse Brazilian looks with some strong Latin and Black influences. Then you have to ask do you want a beach and outdoor activities.

Don't get me wrong. Sao Paulo is a world-class city and draws many of the hottest women from all over Brazil.

[Knowledge]

Holy crap, 10 days is much more than I imagined. Somebody could really be stitched up over that. Information is power.

Thanks gents, yes agreed (readers should plan carefully) - to clarify my pie-in-the-sky plans. Would be to visit some "friends" in Bogota (I'm here for the coffee ha) on the way down. On the way back, there's a day time connecting flight via Bog (3 HR layover) which doesn't require YF that I took this trip.

From Avianca (exceptions): "Passengers with a connecting flight or cruise who are not leaving the terminal. The stay in the country must be less than 24 hours. ".

I was surmising that YF worry seems overkill, but I do eventually want to visit some other remote beaches, etc. When I saw the Brazil 2018/2019 YF campaign: 88% male cases, 23% fatality, median age in the 40's, mainly rural workers. Ouch, no joke..

[Nounce]

That's right man. That's how you do it. Especially when you run out of reais. ....

I did it last time last year but it's after I just landed. The girl showed up before I had a chance to get enough cash. I had everything with me at that moment so I didn't want the girl around. I paid her in USD which is more than twice I usually paid her because I know her rent was due the next day. This girl did not contact me again for a week before her money ran out. LOL.

[Nounce]

Do you need to fill out Checkmig form when you just transit trough Colombia?

If you will go thru immigration in Colombia, then you will need it. If you are flying Avianca, they may do it for you. I flied Avianca, for some reason, I wasn't asked for checkmig or YF certificate.

[Wayne Roberts]

SocratesNY, Thank you once again for an excellent summary of Scandallo. My tastes in women are almost identical to yours, although tall is less of a factor. It was because of your earlier reports, I flew from Canada to Sao Paulo to check out Scandallo for myself. It was not cheap, but it was certainly worth it. I took five girls to my hotel room. One of the girls I had an amazing connection and sex with, and spent two full days with her. Thank you again for all you have been saying about Scandallo.

That having been said, if I could only choose to go to either Pattaya or Sao Paulo, I would choose Pattaya. It is easier to connect with a Scandallo girl since the language and culture is closer to what we are used to. And as you say, the club is class, and quantity and variety of girls is superb. But Walking Street Pattaya has many more girls. In the new club XS, there are 100 girls alone. There are probably over 500 girls dancing in the Walking Street gogos on any given night when taken together..

I have spent a ton of time in Pattaya. Comparing the whole of Pattaya to Scandallo does a huge disservice to Sao Paulo, the scene there is massive. Its one club in a city full of world class options. Scandallo is like Insomnia, the largest freelancer club.

The quality of the women in Brazil smokes Thailand, its not close. Then when you consider performance, its an even bigger gap. There are some beautiful Thai women, but on average its a different league in Brazil.

Price wise, Scandallo is on the top end and not cheap but the quality is insane. Not just the women, everything about that club is world class. Nothing in Pattaya would match it, and while the high end gentlemen's clubs in Bangkok would push places like Bomboa there is nothing like Scandallo there either. Price wise in BKK these clubs will set you back the same though, easily. Same goes for Thailand as a whole, the cost of sex is not much lower than Brazil anymore and I would say its actually on par.

Don't get me wrong, I have had an amazing time in Pattaya over the years and will still visit. Its great for golf, the hotel options are amazing, a lot of good restaurants, and the best thing about is that everything is concentrated in a few walkable areas, so I can understand the appeal of that compared to Sao Paulo and even Rio. But unless you want to spend all day drinking, it gets old quickly. 4-5 days is plenty in that place, and to be honest its a bit of a dump.

[BigButtDetecto]

Be careful about connecting via Colombia or Panama. You have to get a yellow fever vaccine at least 72 hours before you enter either country directly from Brazil. 60 or older are exempt.

Do you need to fill out Checkmig form when you just transit trough Colombia?

[SocratesNY]

I was at Gaugin Club yesterday. It was about 15 minute walk to the hotel so I figured to check it out. I walked in around 10 Pm and it was dead, looks like they are renovating as with the floor and surrounding a bit dirty. There were total about 7 girls with 4 already talking to customer and they weren't that great looking. I had this 32 yo white blonde from Minas Gerais came over and talked to me and since it was slow, I figured to talk to her and get more info. R180 for entry with R100 consumable, R100 for the room and the only option for girl is 1 hour. She quoted me R800 for her, but these are freelance so you can negotiate, she just doesn't do it for me with any amount so I aske for her number and said we'll meet outside. There is a menu for drinks, r35 for beer, r50 red label walker. I drank my consumable and then paid the r180 and left for Casarao. I stayed until about 12 am and about 4 more girls strolled in by then, nothing great. The girl I talked to said it's best to come Tuesday through Thursday, I guess Friday is bad and it is also National holiday.

Sad to hear it was a dud. Was contemplating checking it out on my next visit.

Thanks for the report.

[Pipe Layer99]

Sounds almost like a trolling posrlt, but I will reply as if it was not.
I keep crisp new notes for FX exchange. They often reject those with any deformities or are old.
..But on a few occasions I had agreed to paying a girl R1,000 for an 12 HR overnight and I didn't have enough BRL on so offered to either go to ATM in the morning or give her $200 USD (exchange rate was 5. 15) and they all chose the USD for the convenience. I lost R30 in exchange.

That's right man. That's how you do it. Especially when you run out of reais. I did it in both SP and Rio and even in Thailand. About 10 years ago in Rio, it was my last full day. I went out walking around, stopped at a lunch place near the beach for a beer. Saw a good looking lady and called out to her. We talked and since I didn't have a hotel room, we went to that short time hotel that was back near Miguel Lemos and NS Copa. Got to the room and she wanted money up front. Of course I told her I pay after. I showed her the hundred dollar bill and said she can have it after we finish. She was a little skeptical but I showed her the exchange rate. Win Win. The EX rate was about 2. 2 to 1 back then. Man, let me tell you. She gave the best performance. Great sex with mirrors everywhere. After the first session, we talk and laugh and touch, then on to round two when I was ready. She did it again. That was one of THE BEST sessions ever.

[SocratesNY]

You keep crisp euro and dollar bank notes in 100 denomination to give to girls if you run out of reales?

Sounds almost like a trolling posrlt, but I will reply as if it was not.

I keep crisp new notes for FX exchange. They often reject those with any deformities or are old.

I also carry 50's, 20's, 10's, 5's even 2 dollar bills. I am a walking ATM.

But on a few occasions I had agreed to paying a girl R1,000 for an 12 HR overnight and I didn't have enough BRL on so offered to either go to ATM in the morning or give her $200 USD (exchange rate was 5. 15) and they all chose the USD for the convenience. I lost R30 in exchange.

[CanadaWet]

SocratesNY, Thank you once again for an excellent summary of Scandallo. My tastes in women are almost identical to yours, although tall is less of a factor. It was because of your earlier reports, I flew from Canada to Sao Paulo to check out Scandallo for myself. It was not cheap, but it was certainly worth it. I took five girls to my hotel room. One of the girls I had an amazing connection and sex with, and spent two full days with her. Thank you again for all you have been saying about Scandallo.

That having been said, if I could only choose to go to either Pattaya or Sao Paulo, I would choose Pattaya. It is easier to connect with a Scandallo girl since the language and culture is closer to what we are used to. And as you say, the club is class, and quantity and variety of girls is superb. But Walking Street Pattaya has many more girls. In the new club XS, there are 100 girls alone. There are probably over 500 girls dancing in the Walking Street gogos on any given night when taken together. The gogos have different styles too. Some are smaller and very hands on (Windmill, Dollhouse), and some are bigger and more restrained. But for me the main thing Pattaya has over Sao Paulo is that it is so safe. You can walk around anywhere in Pattaya at any time of night and not have to worry about anything. Pattaya also has great international food as well as delicious Thai food. There are also more things to do in Pattaya besides mongering, and it is easy to get around. It is a much more relaxing destination on the whole.

Going forward, I'll be visiting both Pattaya and Scandallo.

From my last 3-4 trips, I've been at Scandallo every day they were open. From my observations, I would guess the normal number of girls in attendance would be approximately.

Note: (NA = wasn't there during that time):

Monday: before 6 pm 20-40,6 to 10 pm 50-80, after 10 pm NA.

Tuesday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Wednesday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+ (250+ on special live musical guest nights).

Thursday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+.

Friday: before 6 pm 30-50,6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Saturday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 60-100, after 10 pm 125+..

[Knowledge]

You keep crisp euro and dollar bank notes in 100 denomination to give to girls if you run out of reales?

I've read quite a few recent posts regarding BMs having logistical issues in Sao Paulo so I figure I'the chime in and offer some guidance.

Debit Cards / ATMs:

The following involves my experience with big US financial institutions (Chase, Citi, TD and Schwab), so YMMV for other countries. Although friends with Western European bank accounts haven't had any issues either.

I've come to rely mostly on Bradesco and Santander ATMs INSIDE bank branches in Sao Paulo. I usually go to them in big or high-end shopping malls when possible. I've not encountered the poor ATM FX conversion rate of 2. 5% to 11% deficit that some have alluded to. It was always within less than 1% of the interbank currency rate. However, what rate you get depends on your HOME bank, not Santander or Bradesco. They do charge a R20 surcharge / ATM fee, but my banks refund them anyway. They usually have a higher withdrawal limit between R2,000 to R3,000, depending on branch location..

[SocratesNY]

From my last 3-4 trips, I've been at Scandallo every day they were open. From my observations, I would guess the normal number of girls in attendance would be approximately.

Note: (NA = wasn't there during that time):

Monday: before 6 pm 20-40,6 to 10 pm 50-80, after 10 pm NA.

Tuesday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Wednesday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+ (250+ on special live musical guest nights).

Thursday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+.

Friday: before 6 pm 30-50,6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Saturday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 60-100, after 10 pm 125+.

Often times they have special life musical guests (Usually on Wednesdays), usually popular local Brazilian bands or international DJs. On those nights, admission / consumption can be higher and the total can be up to R800! They also charge a R500 fee to get a table in the "disco" area where the band plays. On those special nights, I've seen 250+ girls and tons of guys. Taking a girl up to the room or taking a girl for a "saida" out of the club can result in 10-15 minutes wait on line at the hotel / saida cashier!

As beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the following is just MY PERSONAL OPINION. I generally agree with the Western and East Asian standard of beauty. I like the type of girls you generally see in Vogue, Victoria's Secrets, old SI Swimsuit Issues before they became "inclusive" or girls on high fashion billboards for LV, Hermes, Gucci and the like.

Therefore, my tastes lean toward the tall, skinny, girls with a flat stomach (doesn't need a 6 pack), long shapely legs, beautiful face, eye and smile. I am not a breast man, but prefer a nice be-see cup and don't need a big bunda, but like at least a firm bubble butt that fits their frame.

Even though I prefer tall girls, I also like a petite spinner sometimes. I also like curvy girls occasionally, as long as they have a hour glass figure with thin waist and their dimensions are proportional. I also usually prefer younger women age 29 and under.

My taste is a bit wide-ranging. It can go from a runway model to a more busty VS Vixen to a SI Swimsuit cover model to a K-pop / Asian movie star to a Telenovela actress. I also like girls of all races, hair and eye coloring, as long as they fit the above. It just depends on my mood and also our chemistry when I chat them up.

I DO NOT like muffin tops, thick thighs or cellulite around the ass / thighs. Slutty, US Porn Star look, with fake lips, tits and ass also does not really interest me.

Based on my preferences, I feel on a pure OPTICS level, I think Scandallo beats all the options in.

1) Brazil (all other venues in Sao Paulo and everything in Rio de Janeiro).

2) Western European FKKs (Globe / Aphrodisia in Zurich, Sharks / Oase in Frankfurt, Goldentime, Living Room, Oceans and Samya in NWR).

3) Madrid clubs (Vive and Pigmallion).

4) Tijuana (HK Club).

5) Thailand (The Pimp in Bangkok, clubs on / near Soi 11 like Insanity, gogos in Nana / Cowboy and Walking Street gogos in Pattaya).

6) Jakarta (both Malio Hotel and Maliboro Club, Classic, King's Castle, and CJ's).

7) Hong Kong (Wan Chai FL clubs and strip clubs).

I've been to all of those other venues within the last 3-4 years, often multiple times. The QUANITY, QUALITY and VARIETY, in terms of height, shape, size (I've also seen a few "little people" at Scandallo), ethnicity, and looks (innocent, cute, model pretty, slutty, sensual, etc.), in Scandallo is unrivalled.

On any given night, you can find a hot girl with Caucasian, Irish / Scottish, Germanic, Latina, Western European, Eastern European, Slavik, Asian, Mulatto, and Black Features.

On a "classy" level, I also feel Scandallo wins out. You are more likely to find professional working models, artists, professionals, graduate students, higher-end sugar babies, etc. At Scandallo than those other venues. The club is also very posh and upscale, with a large selection of top shelf liquor and a nice restaurant offering varied cuisine, as well as a good sushi bar.

I understand some of the above venues are different in terms of setup, but at the end of the day, they all have a few things in common that I find useful and important:

1) You see the girls in the person (and in some of the other venues, totally in the flesh!

2) You have the option of buying them a drink and chatting them up and vet them.

3) It's basically a point and shoot situation, as few will turn you down outright, but a few still might do so.

Some might find it more challenging to go to Brazil. Some might prefer a cheaper venue. Some might prefer a venue that has a higher percentage of darker skinned girls. Some might prefer a venue with mostly "trashier / sluttier" girls (although plenty of those in Scandallo too! Some might prefer a venue where negotiating on the "gift / donation" for the girl is less of an issue. Some might prefer a venue where more girls speak English, German, etc.

Not everyone will agree with my sentiments and that's okay. Different strokes for different folks.

For me, Scandallo is the best one stop shopping for hot P4 P action, especially if you have the funds to spend and it isn't logistically too challenging for you to get there compared to the other options.

[SocratesNY]

I've read quite a few recent posts regarding BMs having logistical issues in Sao Paulo so I figure I'the chime in and offer some guidance.

Debit Cards / ATMs:

The following involves my experience with big US financial institutions (Chase, Citi, TD and Schwab), so YMMV for other countries. Although friends with Western European bank accounts haven't had any issues either.

I've come to rely mostly on Bradesco and Santander ATMs INSIDE bank branches in Sao Paulo. I usually go to them in big or high-end shopping malls when possible. I've not encountered the poor ATM FX conversion rate of 2. 5% to 11% deficit that some have alluded to. It was always within less than 1% of the interbank currency rate. However, what rate you get depends on your HOME bank, not Santander or Bradesco. They do charge a R20 surcharge / ATM fee, but my banks refund them anyway. They usually have a higher withdrawal limit between R2,000 to R3,000, depending on branch location.

For other "combo" ATMs that you might find in the airport, hotel, gas station, etc. , I've seen a big range for ATM fees. Some charge a small ATM fee of R20, while others charge a PERCENTAGE of the withdrawal amount. All the way of up to 12.5% Thankfully, my banks have also refunded those ATM fee based on percentage of withdrawal. The highest one I've encountered was at the Grand Hyatt of $65 USD.

Make sure you DECLINE the currency conversion option. Sometimes the ATM would get "tricky" and ask if you want to really DECLINE the conversion and word it in such a way that you might say no. And accidentally ACCEPT the conversion. I've had it happen to a few friends. The conversion rate can be brutal and up to 15% less than the interbank currency rate. These ATMs also tend to have smaller withal limit between R500 to R1,500. I've seen a few that have a high ATM fee based on a PERCENT of withdrawal AND a high CONVERSION fee.

Finally, make sure your bank or account doesn't charge an international transaction fee. High end bank accounts usually do not. But TD and Schwab are the best at this as they don't require a high balance to refund all ATM fees, without any limit and don't charge an international transaction fee.

Credit Cards and Cash:

I've had very little issues with credit card usage in Sao Paulo. Unless the venue charged a CC fee (really only encountered that at termas, clinicas and some boates. Bamboa comes to mind!) Thankfully, Scandallo does not charge an CC fee for the club admission / consumption or the hotel and saida fee. They do charge a CC fee if you charge the girl's "gift / donation" So far I've not had any fraudulent charges on any of my 6-7 CCs I've used in Brazil (knock on wood).

It's also helpful to carry multiple credit cards, as some credit cards (Chase and Citi) have very sensitive fraud algorithms and might only work for a few days before they block all usage for Uber. Even if you tell them those charges are valid, the card stays blocked for Uber in Brazil for a few days. I've also encountered a few restaurants where the international card payment service they use sucks. I've had to pay cash after 3-4 different credit cards got declined. All different types (Visa, MC, Amex, etc.).

I also bring some emergency cash in crisp $100 USD and $100/$200 Euro notes with me. It's nice to have it around in case you don't have enough BRL and can give the girl USD / EURO, but you usually have to offer them a good exchange rate for their inconvenience or FX fee. You can also exchange cash at many local FX places in the city and get a very competitive rates (similar to Mexico, other Latin American countries and Asia). I've used a few near Av. Paulista and in big / high-end shopping malls.

It's also useful to carry a copy of your passport, whether it's photocopy or photo on your phone. I always keep my passport locked in my hotel safe.

Cellular Data:

On most of my earlier trips, I used my US carrier's international day pass. Obviously, it's expensive (usually $10 USD per day) so it's not a great option for longer visits. If you are only in town for only a few days or only use it for 1 day until you go to a store to get a local sim, it is an okay option.

I've also starting using Google Fi during trips the last year and half in Sao Paulo and it works pretty well. Coverage is usually via Vivo and I've not had too much coverage blind spots in Sao Paulo. Another neat feature about Google Fi is the ability to have multiple "data only" sims on one plan / line without extra charge. You can carry those data only sims for backup. Or you can use a data only sim on a cheap backup / hobby phone and not worry about losing your main phone.

AT&T also recently added almost all the Latin American countries as part of the higher end unlimited plans so you can use your plan's talk, text and high-speed data for free now in Brazil.

I hear T-Mobile's high end unlimited plans also comes with some international data, but I don't use T-Mobile so you have to research that yourself.

I can't comment on CPF or local physical SIM or eSIM as I've never bothered with them, but the effort sounds annoying. However, if you are in country for more than a week or two, that route is probably worth the trouble.

Speaking of eSIM, if you have that feature on your phone, it's highly recommended that you install / use an eSIM from your main local cellular provider. I've had friends who either lost their phone or had it stolen and they were able to easily get a replacement phone and install their eSIM and be quickly back up and running. It also is nice to be able to put in another physical sim (local, Google Fi, etc.) and swap between the two.

I've rarely relied on airport WIFI, but do often use hotel WIFI. I suggest you use a VPN when using any WIFI. NordVPN works great and I highly recommend them. Google FI also comes with a VPN installed.

Transportation:

I use Uber almost exclusively, but sometimes taxis are a competitive alternative if have a taxi in front of you and don't want to wait. Most taxis take CCs.

I use Uber black 75-80% of the time, as it's usually not much more than UberX. It can save you a ton of time, as UberX can take 10-20 minutes longer due to constant cancellations. I've even seen Uber Black be CHEAPER than UberX about 5-10% of the time. But usually, Uber Black is just a 10-20% markup when compared to UberX and I rather have my 10-20 min back!

If you aren't going too far, METERED taxi (which is 95% of the ones I've encountered) are competitive in pricing vs. Uber. I've taken taxis many times when I don't want to wait for an Uber, usually to / from Scandallo to restaurants / hotel in the Jardins, Itam Bibi, Pinhieros and Murumbi areas and the cost were the same or less than Uber.

Taxis also have the option of going on some "taxi only lanes", which can cut down on travel time, especially around Av. Paulista, which is great for avoiding traffic.

I've taken a heli-taxi one time from airport to my hotel and it was crazy expensive. You would think with so many freaking helicopters in Sao Paulo, there would be a market for cheaper helicopter taxi services. Thankfully, that ride wasn't on my own dime. You also have passenger and luggage weight restrictions if you go that route.

GF Hotel:

99% of hotels in Sao Paulo are girl friendly.

If you intend to host a girl at your hotel, book your room for 2 adult guests. Brazilian hotels often charge a lower rate due to occupancy. You can save R30-50 when booking for 1 guest vs. 2 guests. But then they will charge you a R100 to R150 "guest fee".

Some hotel night reception will still try to charge you a "guest fee" when you bring a girl back after 9/10 pm. Even if your reservation is for 2 or more guests. They either try to swindle your as they mark you for a monger or just presume you booked for 1 guest. The few times I've had this happen, I pushed back politely that my reservation is for 2 or more guests, they have apologized and relented and just made me register the girl (s) as my 2nd or 3rd guest.

[Fewdie]

I was able to register a TIM chip bought from those huts through the phone without going to the store so I don't see why esim is not able to.

Brazil does have eSim, but can you point me to an online Vivo website that I can purchase to activate when landing? Tells you to go to a store. 3rd party eSims (like Airolo) are for people to avoid wasting time getting going right away and then can get local chips / esims when convenient.

Have you been to Euphoria? There are no closets. Funny fact, we couldn't even get a bottle opener (gamer girl called the desk). We ordered a blanket and they gave us a sheet.

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