Sao Paulo Reports

[The Cane]

Over to you Steve and The Cane.

I've written on this many, many times before. Not going to do it again. To each his own.

[Turgid]

...In my comparison of Clinicas and Boates, I find that they are both on the same level, in terms of quality. My standards are very very very high, so I am quite surprised at what I found at these Clinica lineups. You can find talents that suit all taste just like in boates like Scandallo in Clinicas.....

Over to you Steve and The Cane.

[Nuupter]

Was in SP a week ago and just came back before the US restrictions came in place.

Got to meet up with Rovnak on a Monday afternoon and he very gladly brought me on a Clinica tour. I have never been to one because of being a skeptic, and because of seeing pictures of the talents that was posted here by some members, which always made me think It is of lower tier.

Mondays are usually slower days in Clinicas, and Rovnak has been a great guide and guy to hangout with. We went to Miruna, House 57, Abbodara, Moema Prime, Enjoy.

In my comparison of Clinicas and Boates, I find that they are both on the same level, in terms of quality. My standards are very very very high, so I am quite surprised at what I found at these Clinica lineups. You can find talents that suit all taste just like in boates like Scandallo in Clinicas. What you can't find though, are barbie dolls. Clinica's are more towards natural looking girls.

Whenever I see their whatsapp updates of who is available, I always see 2 or 3 that I would be interested in, might seem little, but 1 clinica maybe have only 7 to 10 available at a given time, as the clinica's can only fit that much.

One thing I dislike about Clinica's are their rooms, especially the one in Enjoy, which is tiny.

Price comparison to Scandallo is good too. Saw a girl in the Miruna Whatsapp announcement and decided to book her for 2 hours. Met her for 2 hours and got her whatsapp to setup time with her for another day. Wanted 600 Rs for 6 hours, which came as a surprised to me, as I'm used to paying $450-600 per hour. In Scandallo, Bomboa, Connection, she will be grabbed up pretty quickly if she were there, give that she is a 10 in the clinica and a 9 in any of those boates. Met her twice during my trip, and we had nice time exploring SP and going to restaurant. She told me boates and online escorts are very expensive, so she knows she could have asked for more.

Over the course of few days while I was there, saw a many more announcement from Whatsapp of Clinica's and there were many more 8 to 10 that I would like to meet, and is good looking enough to be Scandallo quality.

So for anyone that has never visited a Clinicas, give it another chance, these talents work in multiple Clinica's and use different names sometimes, so on your first try it might be a bad day, and they went to another Clinica to work. Clinica's will now be one of my options when I'm in SP.

Price and Quality wise, Clinica wins, logistically it loses as its not a place to hangout in except for House 57 which to me is a mini boates, and start popping in the evening. Nice place to go hangout if you don't want to pay for boates. Again, quality suits all taste.

I have to thank Rovnak for opening an option for me when I got bored of Boates. If anyone wants a guide Rovnak is the person to contact, cool and nice guy to talk and hangout with.

Also met with DukesFord and went to all the famous boates with. Scandallo on Monday, where the looks of my standard was quite lacking, as compared to Clinica's in the afternoon, Clinica's had the most that fits my scale of 10. Saw only 1 that is like a 8 that calls herself Jenny, and she drove a hard bargain, 1500 for 3 hours, as this was my first night I took it, and it was already 3 am. Discoteca was closed that day.

Next day, hit up Connection at about 11 pm, and I find that If Scandallo is open, there is no need to go to Connection. Few people, no one that suits my standards. Duke managed to find one he likes there and got a good deal from it, went to Gauguin but its closed. Found out it closes at 10 pm.

Wed night, Scandallo was at peak busy party atmosphere, saw plenty that fits my standards and for all kinds.

Thurs, took a visit with Duke to Lotus Club or former Cafe foto. It looks the same compared to the first time I went. Forgot that girls can't approach, and men have to call them to join for a chat. Sat at the dining table and this girl has been eyeing me the whole time I was there, interested in speaking with me. Duke said she is his type and motioned her to come sit with us. Had a fun conversation with her, as its not always that I want to pick a girl up, I like to just hangout and talk too. This cannot be done in FKK where you are constantly pestered into going to room, and everything they talk about is sex, money, and what they can do, and if they find you are not interested, they leave. Very business like.

That is why people who often post in Brasil saying SP is more business like etc, have not really experience what is business like until they visit FKK. In Brasil, you get to have normal conversation with them, and feel the vibe, chemistry etc, in FKK, you not interested in going to room right this instant, no one will bother talking to you, or you get to talk to them, but in every 1 minute they will ask you if you should go to room right now. So saying SP is more business like is not accurate.

When Duke asked me how much he should offer her, I told him to jokingly put in his translator 1200 for the whole night and see what is her reaction. The joke was on me as she agreed to it, very surprisingly. Did not expect this from a boates. She is at least a 8. 5 and I thought she would have laughed and countered higher, at least 1800 and above. FYI, this was around 12 am. Her looks, she can ask for 800 an hour. All I said to duke was WOOOOWW, you better take it!! I heard he had a great time with her the next day. I went to Scandallo alone, and the place was bustling.

[Nuupter]

Hello everybody.

Soon I will visit Sao Paulo and plan to go to Scandalo and Bomboa. I speak (yes I am lucky) fluent Portuguese. Do the ladies go with you to your hotel room if you ask them? For how many hours? Is 24 hours possible? And what should be the fee and. Conversation to get them wiht you? Or is it easy and just ask?

Thanks for helping. Asking for a friend.

No they don't go to the hotel room with you no matter how much you beg them.

Max 20 minutes.

Fee? About 5 k per hour.

You need to pat them on their ass, maybe grab them by their dicks, that's all you need to do to get their attention. I might regret posting this.

Replying to the person too lazy to read with the readily available information.

[Kcrl01]

We all can have very different tastes, and that's alright. That's what makes the world spin. Not my type, but you paid for that tute, and we didn't LOL! Do what you like.

She was one of my favs back in the day.

Once when I was living in DC I flew her up from Rio for a few weeks (she had a valid tourist visa), due to a last minute scheduling conflict I had to attend an infrastructure development conference at the World Bank. Talked my client into paying her under the table as my interpreter (she speaks Brazilian Portuguese, European Portuguese & the Afro-Portuguese dialect spoken in Angola). The two of us partied our asses off (while networking) at the after conference bash. We landed one of the the contracts, she travelled with me to Angola, again my client paid her for interpreter services.

We laughed about that shit for years!

[SuperBuilder2]

Hello everybody.

Soon I will visit Sao Paulo and plan to go to Scandalo and Bomboa. I speak (yes I am lucky) fluent Portuguese. Do the ladies go with you to your hotel room if you ask them? For how many hours? Is 24 hours possible? And what should be the fee and. Conversation to get them wiht you? Or is it easy and just ask?

Thanks for helping. Asking for a friend.

[Bearsi]

Before my recent trip to SP, I would have never found this believable, but the fantasy happened to me, for the first time in my life.

A hot chick I met at a clinica sent me an unusual text, not your usual 'when are you coming back to see me'. I usually block these annoying types, but this one piqued my interest enough that I responded, and this set in motion a sequence of events that led her to spend every night at my joint for a whole week, till I left. She was very affectionate and obviously infatuated, always found an excuse to leave work early to come to my place. Always holding hands when in public, or doing the shoulder-waist combo. On my last days she insisted on spending the whole day with me, she didn't go to work. Showed me some nice places in SP.

Best part, she flatly refused my money. Tried a few times to slide her 'taxi / Uber fare' but she declined, saying the muito affection I gave her was worth all the money in the world.

She was very well mannered, obviously from a decent background. No tats or noticeable makeup, no provocative attire, just your regular hot chick giving her best to me for (apparently) nothing in return. She indicated she's been in the game for only 2 months. Can't verify such, but she seemed on the honest side.

And just to clarify, I am not a head turner, not rich, not flashy, and far from being a player. I am as vanilla as a dude can be. She spoke a few words of English, but it was 90% Google Translate. Note to self: learn Portuguese!

On a side note, the one thing I found strange was that the second afternoon she came over, the hotel reception just gave her a key to my room without even checking with me. Got me worried for a bit since I barely knew her by then, but turned out to be all good.

The whole experience felt real good. May be the best week I have had in my adult life.

Happy mongering my friends!

Glad to hear that! Was hoping lady luck would shine on me on my first trip to SP but alas it was not to be. Hopefully next time luck will be on my side!

This post gives me hope.

[Bearsi]

Staying 1 week in both cities although not as extensive as other here on the board has given me some insight that maybe other newcomers will find helpful.

(I came here beginning of Jan so C19 lockdown was in effect and most girls were on vacation / coming back from vacation; so that has to be noted while writing this).

It's hard to compare the two since they are both radically different but the scene is what we really are comparing here.

RIO.

Termas (Suana House / FKKs) / Boates (Clubs) / Prives ("Massages") Acompanhantes (Barras VIP, Private55, etc).

Never been to a Terma or FKK so interesting new experience. It's decent but I was expecting them to be a bit more luxurious. Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaraus, 4 x4 all follow the same format of 2nd floor being the bar area where the girls hang out, 3rd is where rooms are. You change in the 1st usually with a locker to store your stuff. The Bar area is always small so once you enter all eyes are on you especially if you're the only guy there which happened to me a few times. I like to sit down, drink a bit and scan the room and see my options but that's hard to do when all the girls are ready to pounce on you to get you to go with them. You have to be a bit jaded and straightforward with them if you're not interested. I learned that most if not all termas don't let the girls have their phones with them when they are on the job so they really are bored sometimes because all they can do is sit and stand and wait til someone talks to them. Also from talking to some girls there outside the termas some girls only get one guy or 2 on their 8 hour shift so that's like 230 to 460 BRL so getting their number to do more stuff is the key as sometimes they don't get any guys at all some night so they like to get what they can get. Rooms are small and just ok so best to get their number to go to a better love hotel or your hotel / airbnb. Centaurus seems to have the best looking girls but all the girls I talked to wanted a drink but were generally friendly. Also they have a girl escort you upstairs so you have a guide to show you the ropes which is nice. It's the most expensive out of all the termas it's like 600 BRL for entrance, room and a girl for 40 minutes and then 400?BRL for girls and room after that, something like that. They charge an extra 120 BRL if you use a card as well so best to bring cash. Got a girls number here and she was super friendly so good girls here. I personally liked Solarium /4 x4 the best for the price and quality of girls.

Didn't go to any Boates here but heard it's a mixed bag so you just have to try your luck.

Prives seems to be the cheapest out of all the options and seems to be ok. 200 BRL for an hour on average. Similar to Clinicas in SP but you can tell these don't get much traffic as the SP clinicas do.

You get a decent massage included.

Would check out for the cheap price and line up is ok.

Acompanhantes here is easy to find as most are in barra in the transamerica hotel. Good selection but the girls are constantly rotating (the ones I found more interesting) so it's hard to find your girl if you have someone in mind sometimes. There are some regular girls here of course but some girls appear for a few days and disappear so you have to be ready to strike when you get your chance. 300 to 600 BRL is the asking. If you're in barra and they are in copa (or vice versa) they will ask for UBER which I find understandable as it is a 35 min drive. If you stick to the trust worthy sites you should be fine I didn't get burn once using barras vip or private55.

SAO PAULO.

Clinicas ("massage"/ Incall escorts) / Boates (Nightclubs) / Online girls (Private55, MClass, etc).

Clinicas are the best value I've seen so far. Miruna, Abbobora, Carinas, enjoy spa are all within walking distance so if you don't like one line up you can walk a few blocks and find another. 230 BRL is the average with 460 BRL for 2 girls. Line ups are usually good with a 8+ girls usually in rotation. Rooms are medium size and decent. Always best to get a girls whatsapp if you're interested. The girls here also have alot of passion which makes it all the more worth it.

Boates I've went to was scandallo and loved it! It definitely is one of / if not the top clubs in the world. It is very luxurious and is really like fantasy movie. 300 BRL to enter with 150 BRL of that going towards food or drink of your choice. Girls can range from 500 to 1000 BRL so it's really how good of a negotiator you are. Room is 230 BRL with a mega room being 260 (never saw that room but for 30 more I would check it out) if you take two girls you have to pay double for your room. Stupid I know. So you're looking at 1100 BRL if you do everything right. Pretty expensive compared to the clinicas where you can get a 3 some for 460 BRL. I will say though, the food and drinks are good and extensive and so are the girls. When you go up the elevator to the 2nd floor there are tons of girls there. There is usally 50+ girls on any given night. Asians girls, brancas, loiras, ruvias, spinners, tall, short, skinny, thick (very few black girls tho) so really it's just a nice diverse crowd. Girls don't approach you, you have to talk or wave them to you. So no one is pressuring you, you can just eat, drink and scan for the right girl. The girls also don't seem to ask for drinks which is cool. I didn't speak any portuguese but they all tried their best to keep the conversation going. You really get to get a sense of their personality which is a real big plus. I'm used to luxurious incall places in Montreal or Barcelona and I find this fantasy nightclub one step further which just enhances your experience. You feel like ryan gosling or george clooney picking up a hot chick who just wants to bang you. It is expensive compared to anything in Brazil but it definitely sells you a one of a kind experience you won't ever get anywhere else (unless you're super hot and rich, then carry on).

I would do the clinicas in the day time and after 10 pm which is when you would want to go to scandollo I go there. A good mix of fun.

Online girls I've found to be all over. They would appear and disappear on and off. It seems the rate was 400 to 600 BRL. I had some luck with MClass, private55 and SPLove. It's really just checking up everyday to see if the girl you want appears or not. Clinica girls usually settle for 300 BRL so honestly if you're looking for something consistent I would go that route. I would luck it out tho you can definitely find some great talent you just have to put the work in and you will be rewarded. Don't use photoacompanhantes they always do a bait and switch. You can still fuck the switch girl but it's never the same girl and it's just being lied to that makes it all scummy. Use the 3 sites I listed to not get scammed out of your time and money.

CONCLUSION.

I found that I liked the SP scene a bit better. The no commitment / entrance fee line ups at the clinicas mixed with the luxury fantasy land of scandollo (plus daytime-clinicas nighttime-scandollo) scenario really makes it a solid play. Plus SP has tons of Luxury high rise AirBNBs that are listed for $40 a night makes it a really top notch experience.

BUT.

There is almost nothing to do in SP (unless you guys can recommend some fun things to do) except eat and shop. Its a huge metropolis so you really have to look.

The girls here seem to be really business minded. Never got to meet a girl for fun or pernoite so was a bummer. I know it happens so I just may have to wish for better luck next time.

I found RIO to be a much better relaxation / vacation location with good girls. You can't beat the views and activities you can do here. Hiking, swimming, sailing, paragliding, etc. You can find a diverse bunch of girls here (not much spinners but black girls for sure than SP) and they are much friendlier and playful. You definitely can spend a whole day with a girl here and have a good time without having sex which says a lot about the city.

BUT.

Not a fan of the small spaces of the termas.

Not many luxury airbnbs in copa / Ipa (there are a ton in barra but that's a 35 min drive plus they are usually not by the beach).

I will come back again and most likely do another week in both cities because they both offer their unique pros which I like and don't want to miss out.

Just my 2 cents if I'm missing anything let me know.

[The Cane]

Say what you must, to each his own. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. At the end of the day I still prefer them short and compact.

Cheers.

We all can have very different tastes, and that's alright. That's what makes the world spin. Not my type, but you paid for that tute, and we didn't LOL! Do what you like.

[Golfinho]

She was about 1. 52 cm and 65 kg at the time. Granted these photos are about 10 yrs + old. Say what you must, to each his own. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. At the end of the day I still prefer them short and compact.

Match up to body type. If you're as wide as you are tall, that one could be the perfect fit.

Personal preference derived from years of statistically significant sample size is 7:4 weight ratio.

[WyattEarp]

The problem with a woman built like that is she might get an offer from Tampa Bay or Kansas City at any moment and you would never see her again.

I think she would fit in with the Queefs more so than the Fuckaneers.

[Exec Talent]

True that. But would she be a wide receiver or a tight end? .

She was about 1. 52 cm and 65 kg at the time. Granted these photos are about 10 yrs + old. Say what you must, to each his own. One man's garbage is another man's treasure.

At the end of the day I still prefer them short and compact (preferably, drunk, naked, & wet in my bed)!

Cheers.

I need to still be able to hear the music when they are sitting on my face.

Most of the women I prefer are those in which my Brazilian friends have no interest. As a result, when we are out, we never fight over women which makes its all good. I am not much into getting women drunk either. I prefer that they are fully cognizant of all the pleasure they are about to receive. Like you said, to each his own. Thanks for sharing.

[Kcrl01]

The problem with a woman built like that is she might get an offer from Tampa Bay or Kansas City at any moment and you would never see her again.

True that. But would she be a wide receiver or a tight end? .

She was about 1. 52 cm and 65 kg at the time. Granted these photos are about 10 yrs + old. Say what you must, to each his own. One man's garbage is another man's treasure.

At the end of the day I still prefer them short and compact (preferably, drunk, naked, & wet in my bed)!

Cheers.

[Exec Talent]

This is Carmem Helena, sorry posted report w / o the foto.

The problem with a woman built like that is she might get an offer from Tampa Bay or Kansas City at any moment and you would never see her again.

[Turgid]

This is Carmem Helena, sorry posted report w / o the foto.

Hope her husband does not see this.