Sao Paulo Reports

[Bearsi]

Staying 1 week in both cities although not as extensive as other here on the board has given me some insight that maybe other newcomers will find helpful.

(I came here beginning of Jan so C19 lockdown was in effect and most girls were on vacation / coming back from vacation; so that has to be noted while writing this).

It's hard to compare the two since they are both radically different but the scene is what we really are comparing here.

RIO.

Termas (Suana House / FKKs) / Boates (Clubs) / Prives ("Massages") Acompanhantes (Barras VIP, Private55, etc).

Never been to a Terma or FKK so interesting new experience. It's decent but I was expecting them to be a bit more luxurious. Monte Carlo, Solarium, Centaraus, 4 x4 all follow the same format of 2nd floor being the bar area where the girls hang out, 3rd is where rooms are. You change in the 1st usually with a locker to store your stuff. The Bar area is always small so once you enter all eyes are on you especially if you're the only guy there which happened to me a few times. I like to sit down, drink a bit and scan the room and see my options but that's hard to do when all the girls are ready to pounce on you to get you to go with them. You have to be a bit jaded and straightforward with them if you're not interested. I learned that most if not all termas don't let the girls have their phones with them when they are on the job so they really are bored sometimes because all they can do is sit and stand and wait til someone talks to them. Also from talking to some girls there outside the termas some girls only get one guy or 2 on their 8 hour shift so that's like 230 to 460 BRL so getting their number to do more stuff is the key as sometimes they don't get any guys at all some night so they like to get what they can get. Rooms are small and just ok so best to get their number to go to a better love hotel or your hotel / airbnb. Centaurus seems to have the best looking girls but all the girls I talked to wanted a drink but were generally friendly. Also they have a girl escort you upstairs so you have a guide to show you the ropes which is nice. It's the most expensive out of all the termas it's like 600 BRL for entrance, room and a girl for 40 minutes and then 400?BRL for girls and room after that, something like that. They charge an extra 120 BRL if you use a card as well so best to bring cash. Got a girls number here and she was super friendly so good girls here. I personally liked Solarium /4 x4 the best for the price and quality of girls.

Didn't go to any Boates here but heard it's a mixed bag so you just have to try your luck.

Prives seems to be the cheapest out of all the options and seems to be ok. 200 BRL for an hour on average. Similar to Clinicas in SP but you can tell these don't get much traffic as the SP clinicas do.

You get a decent massage included.

Would check out for the cheap price and line up is ok.

Acompanhantes here is easy to find as most are in barra in the transamerica hotel. Good selection but the girls are constantly rotating (the ones I found more interesting) so it's hard to find your girl if you have someone in mind sometimes. There are some regular girls here of course but some girls appear for a few days and disappear so you have to be ready to strike when you get your chance. 300 to 600 BRL is the asking. If you're in barra and they are in copa (or vice versa) they will ask for UBER which I find understandable as it is a 35 min drive. If you stick to the trust worthy sites you should be fine I didn't get burn once using barras vip or private55.

SAO PAULO.

Clinicas ("massage"/ Incall escorts) / Boates (Nightclubs) / Online girls (Private55, MClass, etc).

Clinicas are the best value I've seen so far. Miruna, Abbobora, Carinas, enjoy spa are all within walking distance so if you don't like one line up you can walk a few blocks and find another. 230 BRL is the average with 460 BRL for 2 girls. Line ups are usually good with a 8+ girls usually in rotation. Rooms are medium size and decent. Always best to get a girls whatsapp if you're interested. The girls here also have alot of passion which makes it all the more worth it.

Boates I've went to was scandallo and loved it! It definitely is one of / if not the top clubs in the world. It is very luxurious and is really like fantasy movie. 300 BRL to enter with 150 BRL of that going towards food or drink of your choice. Girls can range from 500 to 1000 BRL so it's really how good of a negotiator you are. Room is 230 BRL with a mega room being 260 (never saw that room but for 30 more I would check it out) if you take two girls you have to pay double for your room. Stupid I know. So you're looking at 1100 BRL if you do everything right. Pretty expensive compared to the clinicas where you can get a 3 some for 460 BRL. I will say though, the food and drinks are good and extensive and so are the girls. When you go up the elevator to the 2nd floor there are tons of girls there. There is usally 50+ girls on any given night. Asians girls, brancas, loiras, ruvias, spinners, tall, short, skinny, thick (very few black girls tho) so really it's just a nice diverse crowd. Girls don't approach you, you have to talk or wave them to you. So no one is pressuring you, you can just eat, drink and scan for the right girl. The girls also don't seem to ask for drinks which is cool. I didn't speak any portuguese but they all tried their best to keep the conversation going. You really get to get a sense of their personality which is a real big plus. I'm used to luxurious incall places in Montreal or Barcelona and I find this fantasy nightclub one step further which just enhances your experience. You feel like ryan gosling or george clooney picking up a hot chick who just wants to bang you. It is expensive compared to anything in Brazil but it definitely sells you a one of a kind experience you won't ever get anywhere else (unless you're super hot and rich, then carry on).

I would do the clinicas in the day time and after 10 pm which is when you would want to go to scandollo I go there. A good mix of fun.

Online girls I've found to be all over. They would appear and disappear on and off. It seems the rate was 400 to 600 BRL. I had some luck with MClass, private55 and SPLove. It's really just checking up everyday to see if the girl you want appears or not. Clinica girls usually settle for 300 BRL so honestly if you're looking for something consistent I would go that route. I would luck it out tho you can definitely find some great talent you just have to put the work in and you will be rewarded. Don't use photoacompanhantes they always do a bait and switch. You can still fuck the switch girl but it's never the same girl and it's just being lied to that makes it all scummy. Use the 3 sites I listed to not get scammed out of your time and money.

CONCLUSION.

I found that I liked the SP scene a bit better. The no commitment / entrance fee line ups at the clinicas mixed with the luxury fantasy land of scandollo (plus daytime-clinicas nighttime-scandollo) scenario really makes it a solid play. Plus SP has tons of Luxury high rise AirBNBs that are listed for $40 a night makes it a really top notch experience.

BUT.

There is almost nothing to do in SP (unless you guys can recommend some fun things to do) except eat and shop. Its a huge metropolis so you really have to look.

The girls here seem to be really business minded. Never got to meet a girl for fun or pernoite so was a bummer. I know it happens so I just may have to wish for better luck next time.

I found RIO to be a much better relaxation / vacation location with good girls. You can't beat the views and activities you can do here. Hiking, swimming, sailing, paragliding, etc. You can find a diverse bunch of girls here (not much spinners but black girls for sure than SP) and they are much friendlier and playful. You definitely can spend a whole day with a girl here and have a good time without having sex which says a lot about the city.

BUT.

Not a fan of the small spaces of the termas.

Not many luxury airbnbs in copa / Ipa (there are a ton in barra but that's a 35 min drive plus they are usually not by the beach).

I will come back again and most likely do another week in both cities because they both offer their unique pros which I like and don't want to miss out.

Just my 2 cents if I'm missing anything let me know.

[The Cane]

Say what you must, to each his own. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. At the end of the day I still prefer them short and compact.

Cheers.

We all can have very different tastes, and that's alright. That's what makes the world spin. Not my type, but you paid for that tute, and we didn't LOL! Do what you like.

[Golfinho]

She was about 1. 52 cm and 65 kg at the time. Granted these photos are about 10 yrs + old. Say what you must, to each his own. One man's garbage is another man's treasure. At the end of the day I still prefer them short and compact.

Match up to body type. If you're as wide as you are tall, that one could be the perfect fit.

Personal preference derived from years of statistically significant sample size is 7:4 weight ratio.

[WyattEarp]

The problem with a woman built like that is she might get an offer from Tampa Bay or Kansas City at any moment and you would never see her again.

I think she would fit in with the Queefs more so than the Fuckaneers.

[Exec Talent]

True that. But would she be a wide receiver or a tight end? .

She was about 1. 52 cm and 65 kg at the time. Granted these photos are about 10 yrs + old. Say what you must, to each his own. One man's garbage is another man's treasure.

At the end of the day I still prefer them short and compact (preferably, drunk, naked, & wet in my bed)!

Cheers.

I need to still be able to hear the music when they are sitting on my face.

Most of the women I prefer are those in which my Brazilian friends have no interest. As a result, when we are out, we never fight over women which makes its all good. I am not much into getting women drunk either. I prefer that they are fully cognizant of all the pleasure they are about to receive. Like you said, to each his own. Thanks for sharing.

[Kcrl01]

The problem with a woman built like that is she might get an offer from Tampa Bay or Kansas City at any moment and you would never see her again.

True that. But would she be a wide receiver or a tight end? .

She was about 1. 52 cm and 65 kg at the time. Granted these photos are about 10 yrs + old. Say what you must, to each his own. One man's garbage is another man's treasure.

At the end of the day I still prefer them short and compact (preferably, drunk, naked, & wet in my bed)!

Cheers.

[Exec Talent]

This is Carmem Helena, sorry posted report w / o the foto.

The problem with a woman built like that is she might get an offer from Tampa Bay or Kansas City at any moment and you would never see her again.

[Turgid]

This is Carmem Helena, sorry posted report w / o the foto.

Hope her husband does not see this.

[Kcrl01]

This is Carmem Helena, sorry posted report w / o the foto.

[Kcrl01]

On a side note, the one thing I found strange was that the second afternoon she came over, the hotel reception just gave her a key to my room without even checking with me. Got me worried for a bit since I barely knew her by then, but turned out to be all good.

Similar thing happened to me a few years back in Rio. During the Help / Terraço Atlantica days I used to stay at the same flat on Rua Bolivar & Avenida Atlantica. I was there so often the little old lady down the hall thought I lived there. Few times I helped her carry her bags home from the mercado. Anyway, once I was coming back from a day at the beach. The porteiro buzzed me in, he was all animated, smiling from grinning from ear-to-ear (imagine your dog when you come in the house and it's been home alone all day). Thought that was a tad odd, but then the porteiro struck me as being a kid who rode the short yellow to Special Ed class.

I get upstairs, one of my regulars in my flat. She's wearing lingerie, lounging on the sofa and watching Seinfeld dubbed in Portuguese. There was a baked chicken in the oven, black beans, rice in warming on the range, and a humongous bowl of grapes, sliced mangoes, papaya, and watermelon in the fridge. Also a bottle of Vinho Verde in the freezer. She stayed for a few days. Later, I asked the porteiro why he let her in, he said, "she said, she was your girlfriend. " Normally I'd of complained to the flat manager but I let it slid, the chick was actually one of the cooler ones.

Any of you OGs remember Carmem Helena? She got married and lives with some rich Italian guy in Niteroi.

[Kib123]

Yes, it seems Brazilian working girls can be "genuinely" into you. I think they are very into having fun in the moment with whoever and wherever which makes for a great vibe and great sex. Lastly, it's not so unusual for an attractive young Brasilian working girl to partner with an affluent foreign man. Many have friends or acquaintances living in Europe and North America with husbands or boyfriends. Yes, it's the "Pretty Woman" dream.

Before my recent trip to SP, I would have never found this believable, but the fantasy happened to me, for the first time in my life.

A hot chick I met at a clinica sent me an unusual text, not your usual 'when are you coming back to see me'. I usually block these annoying types, but this one piqued my interest enough that I responded, and this set in motion a sequence of events that led her to spend every night at my joint for a whole week, till I left. She was very affectionate and obviously infatuated, always found an excuse to leave work early to come to my place. Always holding hands when in public, or doing the shoulder-waist combo. On my last days she insisted on spending the whole day with me, she didn't go to work. Showed me some nice places in SP.

Best part, she flatly refused my money. Tried a few times to slide her 'taxi / Uber fare' but she declined, saying the muito affection I gave her was worth all the money in the world.

She was very well mannered, obviously from a decent background. No tats or noticeable makeup, no provocative attire, just your regular hot chick giving her best to me for (apparently) nothing in return. She indicated she's been in the game for only 2 months. Can't verify such, but she seemed on the honest side.

And just to clarify, I am not a head turner, not rich, not flashy, and far from being a player. I am as vanilla as a dude can be. She spoke a few words of English, but it was 90% Google Translate. Note to self: learn Portuguese!

On a side note, the one thing I found strange was that the second afternoon she came over, the hotel reception just gave her a key to my room without even checking with me. Got me worried for a bit since I barely knew her by then, but turned out to be all good.

The whole experience felt real good. May be the best week I have had in my adult life.

Happy mongering my friends!

[The Cane]

Cafe Photo (name only) is to open at a new location, date ***, you can follow them on instagram for updates.

Lotus Club is the newly branded club in the same location as the old Cafe Photo.

From what I heard the prior owners of Cafe Photo split up.

One owner retained the old name and will open new club with old name in new location. Av. Dos Bandeirantes, 1515.

The other retained the old location, now open but rebranded with new name, Lotus Club -t Av. Pres. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373.

Neither are to be confused with Lotus Lounge a pricey clinica. Nor any of the other variations on Lotus in SP.

Confusing but true.

Chhers.

Thanks for the clarifications Rovnak.

[Messiah69]

Lotus club raised the cover from previous 120 to 170 with no consumption now. Scandallo charges 150 plus consumption 150 I guess. As I went from Lotus to Bomboa I can say there were way more girls and clients. All sofas busy with clients, some girls even standing. I like the intimate atmosphere though. Take out fee was 150 if I remember correctly. I will definitely go there again soon.

So Scandallo, Bomboa and Connection are open for business now? In spite of the partial lockdown that kicked off on Monday?

I know Casarao has closed since Monday.

[Safado007]

Lotus club raised the cover from previous 120 to 170 with no consumption now. Scandallo charges 150 plus consumption 150 I guess. As I went from Lotus to Bomboa I can say there were way more girls and clients. All sofas busy with clients, some girls even standing. I like the intimate atmosphere though. Take out fee was 150 if I remember correctly. I will definitely go there again soon.

[Member #4732]

Did Cafe Photo just do a name change, or did it move to a new location, and the old place became Lotus?

Cafe Photo (name only) is to open at a new location, date ***, you can follow them on instagram for updates.

Lotus Club is the newly branded club in the same location as the old Cafe Photo.

From what I heard the prior owners of Cafe Photo split up.

One owner retained the old name and will open new club with old name in new location. Av. Dos Bandeirantes, 1515.

The other retained the old location, now open but rebranded with new name, Lotus Club -t Av. Pres. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373.

Neither are to be confused with Lotus Lounge a pricey clinica. Nor any of the other variations on Lotus in SP.

Confusing but true.

Chhers.