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  1. #9877
    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    Can you clarify how you wound up with Paty instead of Mel. I. E Did you see Mel live? Did you book with Mel and change your mind when you got there? Was there a lineup or was it pre book?
    If you look at the website, each garota has their own whatsapp number. I found the website before I booked and booked directly with Paty. I saw another garota that was not too attractive and heavily tatooed in the reception. She had curly hair so I would think that was Mel. Given what I saw I would probably not chance it although she has the perfect body type for a Thailandia massage. It would be good to come between those tits. Paty does not have that kind of bust. The place was not dead. There were two other customers one leaving and one arriving while I was there around two in the afternoon.

  2. #9876
    Quote Originally Posted by BigBossMan  [View Original Post]
    Rovnak and I were speculating about Mel Lisbon.

    https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/a...rtoes-id-6w7tz

    I found her at Massagens Ana Rosa.

    Are. Guimares Passos, 399 - Vila Mariana So Paulo. SP04107-031.

    I ended up sessioning with Paty Monteiro instead.

    https://ana-rosa-massagens.webnode.com/paty/

    Paty could be the one in the picture but she is heavily tatooed. It seems to be a theme in Sao Paulo.

    There was a little bit of massage involved but things quickly turned to sex. Paty is the most liberal garota that I have been with on this trip accepting fingers in both the pussy and the ass among other things.

    Cost was 200 reals for 1 hour. Bathroom is down the hall and the facilities are not that nice. It was a good experience.
    Can you clarify how you wound up with Paty instead of Mel. I. E Did you see Mel live? Did you book with Mel and change your mind when you got there? Was there a lineup or was it pre book?

  3. #9875

    Massagens Ana Rosa

    Rovnak and I were speculating about Mel Lisbon.

    https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/a...rtoes-id-6w7tz

    I found her at Massagens Ana Rosa.

    Are. Guimares Passos, 399 - Vila Mariana So Paulo. SP04107-031.

    I ended up sessioning with Paty Monteiro instead.

    https://ana-rosa-massagens.webnode.com/paty/

    Paty could be the one in the picture but she is heavily tatooed. It seems to be a theme in Sao Paulo.

    There was a little bit of massage involved but things quickly turned to sex. Paty is the most liberal garota that I have been with on this trip accepting fingers in both the pussy and the ass among other things.

    Cost was 200 reals for 1 hour. Bathroom is down the hall and the facilities are not that nice. It was a good experience.

  4. #9874

    Sauna House 2019

    Av. Brigadeiro Lus Antnio, 1278 - Bela Vista, So Paulo. SP, 01318-001.

    I went late afternoon on a weekday. When I was at Sauna House ten years ago the lineup was better but I remember going later in the evening between 8 and 11 PM. I think I remember that there was a second shift. It might be better later in the evening to see the more attractive garotas. There were only seven garotas in the lineup. The garotas were all leggy with attractive bodies but I would say average facially.

    I went with Luna. I was surprised to see her undress and the extent to which she was tatooed.

    I was disappointed that there was no massage. It was straight sex. BBBJ. French Kissing. No anal available. She is lactating if you are in to it.

    They charge 290 reals for an hour. I also had a vodka tonic. It was a big pour and a whole can of Schweppes but they charged me an additional 50 reals.

    Room has its own shower and toilet which is nice.

    I would not rule it out calling it a "no go" but I would go after 7 PM based on my old experience. I am sure it is geared towards the tourist since no local ever mentions it. They do have customers though so they must be doing something right. I think the manager hasn't changed. Back in 2004 it was my favorite clinica.

  5. #9873

    Clinicas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel123  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your help but can you suggest name of the spa. I only find one spa there with name Spa Das sobrancelhas. Are you talking about this one.
    Long time massages.

    Centro comercial. ALFAVILLE.

    Please PM me for details.

    ABG.

  6. #9872

    Fyi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel123  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for your help but can you suggest name of the spa. I only find one spa there with name Spa Das sobrancelhas. Are you talking about this one.
    Dude,

    That's a place where chicks get their eyebrows done! A little basic Portuguese might save you a rack of trouble! LMAO!

  7. #9871

    Name of clinicas

    Quote Originally Posted by AltoBomGosto  [View Original Post]
    There are a few Clnicas in ALFA Ville, one is at Calada dos Lrios but I cannot remember the exact me.
    Thanks for your help but can you suggest name of the spa. I only find one spa there with name Spa Das sobrancelhas. Are you talking about this one.

  8. #9870

    Massage Mix

    R. Batataes 557 - Jardim Paulista. 8 Massagistas. Prices: are $150-are $R340. Tel: +55 11 3889-7281, Whatsapp (11) 9 8533-4050. Hours: 8:30 am to 10 pm.

    www.massagemmix.com.br https://www.facebook.com/www.massagemsaopaulo.blog.br/.

    I put it on the Map:

    https://www.google.com/maps/d/edit?h...769222967&z=12

    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    As for places that do "good massage followed by FS" I do not really go to those places. Big Boss Man said that he gets massage in Kamna (Moaci 885) in Moema. He also said he usually gets only HJ there but last time got FS. I was a bit surprised because I thought that place was always FS. I pass by it all the time but only sessioned once and just went straight to FS.

    There is a place called Mix Masagem in Jardins which may be Cat 3 . Massage and FS. It is definitely massage plus oral. I don't have time to read all the reviews but providing link:

    www.massagemmix.com.br

    http://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php...hilit=MASSAGEM+MIX&start=1870.

    Also this site is full of ads for massagistas that may or may not do FS. The problem you will have with these places is that they are not like the straight FS clinicas that we write about here, where there is a lineup and you choose. The places on this site for the most part are reservation based and you have to hope the chick is like the photo. Its not my area of expertise.

    https://www.guiademassagem.com.br/se...sagem-sensual/

    As for live music, you can find listing for music in various sites. Moema has some clubs known for blues and rock more than jazz. Bourbon Street is one such place.

    https://bourbonstreet.com.br

    Jazz is not really that popular in Brazil so if you are a real jazz aficionado you may not find any up to your standard. If you are visiting Brazil you might be better off sampling Brazilian music. Mpb or perhaps "Choro" . I personally don't know much about Choro but it has the rep of being more jazz like, instrumental and uniquely Brazilian. That would be my recommendation for a jazz buff in Brazil.

    You can read about choro and definitely find videos on youtube or music on spotifiy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choro

    This aritcle says where you can find Choro in SP.

    https://samba.catracalivre.com.br/sp...s-de-chorinho/

    Also, Bomboa the high end boate has 3 live bands nightly that play mpg, sertaneja and covers of rock. I enjoy it.

    If you had MP privileges I would meet up with you. But seems you don't.

  9. #9869

    Clinicas.

    Quote Originally Posted by Samuel123  [View Original Post]
    Hello all.

    I am a friend from India presently in So Paulo and is put up in Barueri area. Can you please recommend any clinicas nearby from here with sureshot extra services or FS.
    There are a few Clínicas in ALFA Ville, one is at Calçada dos Lírios but I cannot remember the exact me.

  10. #9868

    Clinicas near Barueri

    Hello all.

    I am a friend from India presently in São Paulo and is put up in Barueri area. Can you please recommend any clinicas nearby from here with sureshot extra services or FS.

  11. #9867
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkayel  [View Original Post]
    As for the music I know several Brazilian musicians who've told me SP is a great place to catch live music. Jazz or not I plan on spending my nights checking live music. I am open to all kinds of music and maybe I'll find some shit I never knew existed. Broaden my horizon and what not. I will check out Choro and all the links you sent. I prefer instrumental music so this sounds awesome.
    Arkayel.
    Here are some example of some choro them SP.

    https://youtu.be/s5nV47C8RiQ

    https://youtu.be/nFgPcrXK9x0

    Jib Reach is correct that there bossa nova is an option I had forgotten about. Q for Jib, is bossa nova still "thriving"or is it mostly people covering bossa nova standards?

    Another option neither of us mentioned is Brazils most famous music LOL, samba. Although as you can see some of the sites we linked have samba in their name. Others may have even more suggestions, as Brazil has many musical strands.

    Choro.

    3. 2 Samba.

    3. 3 MPB (Popular Brazilian Music).

    3. 4 Bossa nova.

    3. 5 Brazilian gospel.

    3. 6 Brazilian rock.

    3. 6. 1 Brazilian heavy metal.

    3. 6. 2 Brazilian folk / folk-rock.

    3. 6. 3 Brazilian psychedelic rock.

    3. 7 Sertanejo.

    3. 8 Northeastern Music.

    3. 9 Gaucho music (Southern music).

    3. 10 Music of Salvador: Late 60's to mid-70's.

    3. 11 Frevo.

    3. 12 Sambass.

    3. 13 Funk Carioca.

  12. #9866
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkayel  [View Original Post]
    Thank you so much Rovnak for taking the time to provide me with some great info. This is perfect information for what I'm looking for. I'm excited to try different things, different experiences and enjoy things as they come. It seems there's a million ways to monger and enjoy the city so I plan on checking different things out. I appreciate the Massagem websites I will check them out. Sounds like I got some great places to start and Kamna is a 7 minute walk from my place so I'm sure I'll go there.

    As for the music I know several Brazilian musicians who've told me SP is a great place to catch live music. Jazz or not I plan on spending my nights checking live music. I am open to all kinds of music and maybe I'll find some shit I never knew existed. Broaden my horizon and what not. I will check out Choro and all the links you sent. I prefer instrumental music so this sounds awesome..
    Couple of notes on jazz in Brazil. First, it is fantastic! Rovnak has pointed you toward a New Orleans style jazz bar that is very good, but Brazilian jazz, often based in Bossa Nova, is awesome. A few other places to look into.

    Samp Jazz Bar - http://www.sampajazzbar.com.br/index.php.

    Madeleine Jazz - http://www.madeleine.com.br/.

    Jazz nos Fundos (probably the best in Sampa for the down and dirty jazz fan) - http://jazznosfundos.net/home.php.

    Raiz Bar is a very interesting place. It is in the basement of another restaurant. It is cool and you may be treated to all variety of music there. They have an insta page https://www.instagram.com/raiz.bar/?...qY8OcRGhk5lYSk.

    The Fasano has a jazz bar. . . . it is good, but lounge like and carries Fasano prices.

    There are literally hundreds of others and once you hit one, you just need to ask around. Oddly (or perhaps not), you will find a substantial number of fans speak some English as many of the musicians have come to the US to study, play and learn.

    Jib Reach.

  13. #9865

    Thank you so much Rovnak!

    Thank you so much Rovnak for taking the time to provide me with some great info. This is perfect information for what I'm looking for. I'm excited to try different things, different experiences and enjoy things as they come. It seems there's a million ways to monger and enjoy the city so I plan on checking different things out. I appreciate the Massagem websites I will check them out. Sounds like I got some great places to start and Kamna is a 7 minute walk from my place so I'm sure I'll go there.

    As for the music I know several Brazilian musicians who've told me SP is a great place to catch live music. Jazz or not I plan on spending my nights checking live music. I am open to all kinds of music and maybe I'll find some shit I never knew existed. Broaden my horizon and what not. I will check out Choro and all the links you sent. I prefer instrumental music so this sounds awesome.

    I plan on mongering during the day. I'm not a nightclub fan, don't drink, so don't think the boates will be for me.

    I don't know what MP privileges means. I just officially signed up for an account a few days back after being anonymous for a long time. Don't have the paid account.

    All I know is you've been beyond a big help to me and appreciate your advice, leads and recommendations.

    May can't come soon enough!

    All the best.

    Arkayel.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rovnak  [View Original Post]
    As for places that do "good massage followed by FS" I do not really go to those places. Big Boss Man said that he gets massage in Kamna (Moaci 885) in Moema. He also said he usually gets only HJ there but last time got FS. I was a bit surprised because I thought that place was always FS. I pass by it all the time but only sessioned once and just went straight to FS.

    There is a place called Mix Masagem in Jardins which may be Cat 3 . Massage and FS. It is definitely massage plus oral. I don't have time to read all the reviews but providing link:

    www.massagemmix.com.br

    http://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php...hilit=MASSAGEM+MIX&start=1870.

    Also this site is full of ads for massagistas that may or may not do FS. The problem you will have with these places is that they are not like the straight FS clinicas that we write about here, where there is a lineup and you choose. The places on this site for the most part are reservation based and you have to hope the chick is like the photo. Its not my area of expertise..

  14. #9864
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkayel  [View Original Post]
    Hello all,

    Sorry for all the questions but after reading over 60 pages I'm still unsure of these few things (I'm sure there's more). And if anyone has any favorite places for live music (especially jazz!) I'the love to hear!

    Thanks for any feedback.

    Arkayel.
    As for places that do "good massage followed by FS" I do not really go to those places. Big Boss Man said that he gets massage in Kamna (Moaci 885) in Moema. He also said he usually gets only HJ there but last time got FS. I was a bit surprised because I thought that place was always FS. I pass by it all the time but only sessioned once and just went straight to FS.

    There is a place called Mix Masagem in Jardins which may be Cat 3 . Massage and FS. It is definitely massage plus oral. I don't have time to read all the reviews but providing link:

    www.massagemmix.com.br

    http://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php...hilit=MASSAGEM+MIX&start=1870.

    Also this site is full of ads for massagistas that may or may not do FS. The problem you will have with these places is that they are not like the straight FS clinicas that we write about here, where there is a lineup and you choose. The places on this site for the most part are reservation based and you have to hope the chick is like the photo. Its not my area of expertise.

    https://www.guiademassagem.com.br/se...sagem-sensual/

    As for live music, you can find listing for music in various sites. Moema has some clubs known for blues and rock more than jazz. Bourbon Street is one such place.

    https://bourbonstreet.com.br

    Jazz is not really that popular in Brazil so if you are a real jazz aficionado you may not find any up to your standard. If you are visiting Brazil you might be better off sampling Brazilian music. Mpb or perhaps "Choro" . I personally don't know much about Choro but it has the rep of being more jazz like, instrumental and uniquely Brazilian. That would be my recommendation for a jazz buff in Brazil.

    You can read about choro and definitely find videos on youtube or music on spotifiy.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choro

    This aritcle says where you can find Choro in SP.

    https://samba.catracalivre.com.br/sp...s-de-chorinho/

    Also, Bomboa the high end boate has 3 live bands nightly that play mpg, sertaneja and covers of rock. I enjoy it.

    If you had MP privileges I would meet up with you. But seems you don't.

  15. #9863
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkayel  [View Original Post]
    Hello all,

    First time poster here.

    Making my first trip to SP May 5 for 2 weeks. Staying a few blocks from Shopping Ibirapuera in Moema. Walking distance to many clinicas and an Uber ride to many others. Actually mostly going to check out the live music scene, jazz clubs, and symphony orchestra. Figure it's a great mongering musician's destination.

    I have RTFF and searched TFF but I still have a few questions.

    1. Massages. From what I understand these clinicas may advertise massage, but it's essentially a brothel. That's cool and all, but coming from massage parlors, I like a massage, even mediocre for a good 30-40 minutes before the flip and the action begins. It always feels weird and uncomfortable to me to jump right into the action. A massage gets me in the mood and ready to go. Years of MP training I guess. Are there places like this, or is any clinica like this if I ask for a massage first. Any places known for a great massage before the action? I don't know if this is unusual. I'the rather get a massage and a screw with a 7 then jump right into it with a 9. A little strange maybe but that's always been my thing. I'm excited for the GFE / DFK with beautiful ladies part of SP but hoping to get some good massages too.

    2. Freelancers. I've read the weekends are different at some clinicas. Freelancers. Does that just mean a different or better lineup? Are there different prices for different girls or same rates as weekdays for all the girls? Not sure how that works..
    Good job, good q's.

    1. there are 4 types of clinicas.

    - therapeutic: massage only.

    - sensual massage (called tantra sometime): massage with flip and happy ending.

    - FS massage: massage and then FS (seems to be what you want.

    - FS with optional massage but in reality the ladies are not trained in massage because customers that want massage don't really go to these places. The ladies will gladly try to give you a massage but it is unlikely to be good unless coincidentally the woman had previously worked at one of the other places above.

    Most places discussed here are in last category. We can look into giving you some names for cat 3.

    2. "Frees" yes on weekends at a few places. Not necessarily prettier or better, just additional choice. The pay structure is no different for the frees, you pay house, house pay lady. Same price for all, no negotiation.

    3. fidelity cards: for a short time visitor the only realistic option is TG and RW, the houses of Vani. Those places do not require a post on gp-guia, net for visit credit. But those places are cat 4.

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