Sao Paulo Reports

[Fewdie]

Same thing with BBBJ or covered, it all depends on if people are clean or not. Anal or not, depends on the size. Gpuia is accurate up to an extent. Need lots of reviews and sample size to be more accurate. It is useful in that if 9 out of 10 reviews are saying that this person is a fraud then most likely they're a fraud.

As useful (and entertaining) as GP-Guia is, it's not always definitive. What I mean by that is that I love to go there and read reviews about girls I sessioned with to see how somebody else's experience compared to mine. Usually if I thought the girl was hot and a good provider, the other reviewer did as well. But, what I noticed is a lot of the guys saying a girl doesn't do anal when I know good and damn well I had been all up in her A-hole! LOL! So, the moral to the story is don't limit yourself based on what somebody else on GP-Guia said a girl will or will not do.

Because I'm here to give witness that I butt fucked a number of girls that several GP-Guia reviewers said the girl told them they didn't do anal. I guess you just have to catch them at the right time on the right day or something. Or maybe earlier in their short careers before the thrill to them from getting cornholed in a termas is gone LOL! Don't get me wrong. I think GP-Guia is hella useful, but don't take it as the gospel truth. If you want something (anal) then ask for it, and you just might receive. I know I did from a lot of those fine young ladies who supposedly "don't do anal". YMMV.

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[The Cane]

Gp-Guia lists which girls are willing to do what in it's reviews. It also indicates whether the girl expects an extra fee. I've found it to be very reliable information.

As useful (and entertaining) as GP-Guia is, it's not always definitive. What I mean by that is that I love to go there and read reviews about girls I sessioned with to see how somebody else's experience compared to mine. Usually if I thought the girl was hot and a good provider, the other reviewer did as well. But, what I noticed is a lot of the guys saying a girl doesn't do anal when I know good and damn well I had been all up in her A-hole! LOL! So, the moral to the story is don't limit yourself based on what somebody else on GP-Guia said a girl will or will not do.

Because I'm here to give witness that I butt fucked a number of girls that several GP-Guia reviewers said the girl told them they didn't do anal. I guess you just have to catch them at the right time on the right day or something. Or maybe earlier in their short careers before the thrill to them from getting cornholed in a termas is gone LOL! Don't get me wrong. I think GP-Guia is hella useful, but don't take it as the gospel truth. If you want something (anal) then ask for it, and you just might receive. I know I did from a lot of those fine young ladies who supposedly "don't do anal". YMMV.

[Knowledge]

Gp-guia lists which girls are willing to do what in it's reviews. It also indicates whether the girl expects an extra fee. I've found it to be very reliable information.

The price is fixed in the clinicas and the house watches the clock and you usually pay the house when you leave. In general it's GFE with BBBJ. I never mention extra payment for extra services like CIM or anal or even BFFS. It is either the girl wants to do it or not and she wouldn't expect extra payment. I don't quiz the girls on their services during the presentation, there isn't time and I'm not great in Portuguese. The locals don't either. I think 10% of my sessions end up being bad and honestly I don't worry about it. The price per session is so low, I just pick another girl up. There was a girl at prime I thought was really hot but our session sucked. I would pick her on every SP trip once to see if she improved, she never did.

In moema, 57 and MOAH and Carinas and Red are also within walking distance.

[Fewdie]

Yeah I noticed that the ones who are in their mid-20's and older are not very friendly. Pretty hard-headed and tough. I think this is universal and not just brazilians.

I have good experiences with Seeking both SP and Rio. Absolute baddies rate them 9/10, girls with huge instagram followings. I don't go over age 26 that's about my max age. They bring up money for a date / overnight / after I get their whatsapp and get to chatting. I have pics of the baddies I plan to meetup with. I speak no porto and just use translator.

Its your portfolio most likely you think you may have great pics / profile but your results are saying otherwise. The avg asking $ Reais I get is no less than 1k for a date/sex and goes up from there but I counter with 500k then negotiate from there , hits and misses the usual.

[Gabbarsing]

Everything (at least most clinicas and boates) is open as usual on Tuesday.

Hey all,

I'm flying into SP on Tuesday and I have a long layover. I've tried to read through the forum and it seems it's going to be tough to find a place that's open. Does anyone know of a place that will be open on Tuesday?

Thanks!

[SamaRiding]

My further concern is being ripped off, while prices are described in automatic replies via Whatsapp.

Also, I can see that Prime, Miruna, Enjoy and Abbobora are in close proximity. Is it safe to walk among them if I do not like a lineup in the first place and want to check the next?

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The price is fixed in the clinicas and the house watches the clock and you usually pay the house when you leave. In general it's GFE with BBBJ. I never mention extra payment for extra services like CIM or anal or even BFFS. It is either the girl wants to do it or not and she wouldn't expect extra payment. I don't quiz the girls on their services during the presentation, there isn't time and I'm not great in Portuguese. The locals don't either. I think 10% of my sessions end up being bad and honestly I don't worry about it. The price per session is so low, I just pick another girl up. There was a girl at prime I thought was really hot but our session sucked. I would pick her on every SP trip once to see if she improved, she never did.

In moema, 57 and MOAH and Carinas and Red are also within walking distance.

[Foolish]

My further concern is being ripped off, .... which means I may need to negotiate with another girl for a cheaper price for that service?

Is it safe to walk among them if I do not like a lineup in the first place and want to check the next?

IMO, I would think about these things differently. This is Brazil, don't think of upselling for what you want. This isn't a FKK where some girls will want to upcharge you for touching them or Colombia where they want you to drop USD on them. At clinicas, the price is the price for the session (and you pay the desk for the most part). Expect to use translation, only a few staff here and there speak English. The common saying is that in Brazil, your chances of GFE are more likely. CBJ is a new plague it seems (IE Casarao).

To spell it out, IE Prime:

Go to the desk, say Hello, and ask for a presentation. Girls will come out and introduce themselves, try to just remember the one you want (you generally don't have the opportunity to check your list of things you want). Choose, get sent to your room and wash up / wait. If you don't like any one, you can wait around, but different places will have different levels of patience for this. Have a good time, get dressed and pay and leave (or wait for round 2). It's not that complicated.

Define what's a dealbreaker (to yourself) and just say that it won't work for you (unless the girl somehow exceeds your threshold for throwing $ at them). If you need to see people and have a conversation of what you like and what they are willing to do, clinicas don't always offer the best environment for this, other than places like Yankin (in the bar area) or Boates, etc. At boates / clubs, you can definitely get your tabbed escalated if you don't control the situation as everyone is a freelancer.

I felt safe in Sao Paulo (this is always relative), but you have to watch out for people taking advantage of you being glued to your phone on the street.

[Maelstrom]

After seeing a lot of positive feedback on these forums I decided to give seekingarragements.com (SA) a try, and so far I've found the experience pretty underwhelming. I got some good photos of myself and a decent profile (and I've received compliments on both my photos and profile) and a premium subscription, and I get quite a bit of attention but I find it very difficult to secure any sort of meetings.

Most of the girls I'm interested in just stop responding to my messages eventually, and many don't reply in the first place. Most of the attention I'm getting is from women that I wouldn't want to sleep with, even for free.

I get the impression that all of the girls on that website want large sums of money, but none of them want to ask for it. I don't bring up money early in the conversation because I first want to figure out if the girl is worth my time but I feel like this is where I am losing a lot of girls.

I've been searching girls in Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for the past month (so Holidays shouldn't be an issue). Have you guys experienced similar frustrations with SA?

What other websites would you guys recommend for meeting girls (both pro and non-pro) in Brazil? Out of all the dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, what ones are the most promising?

I have good experiences with Seeking both SP and Rio. Absolute baddies rate them 9/10, girls with huge instagram followings. I don't go over age 26 that's about my max age. They bring up money for a date / overnight / after I get their whatsapp and get to chatting. I have pics of the baddies I plan to meetup with. I speak no porto and just use translator.

Its your portfolio most likely you think you may have great pics / profile but your results are saying otherwise. The avg asking $ Reais I get is no less than 1k for a date/sex and goes up from there but I counter with 500k then negotiate from there , hits and misses the usual.

[Steve 9696]

After seeing a lot of positive feedback on these forums I decided to give seekingarragements.com (SA) a try, and so far I've found the experience pretty underwhelming. I got some good photos of myself and a decent profile (and I've received compliments on both my photos and profile) and a premium subscription, and I get quite a bit of attention but I find it very difficult to secure any sort of meetings.

Most of the girls I'm interested in just stop responding to my messages eventually, and many don't reply in the first place. Most of the attention I'm getting is from women that I wouldn't want to sleep with, even for free.

I get the impression that all of the girls on that website want large sums of money, but none of them want to ask for it. I don't bring up money early in the conversation because I first want to figure out if the girl is worth my time but I feel like this is where I am losing a lot of girls.

I've been searching girls in Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for the past month (so Holidays shouldn't be an issue). Have you guys experienced similar frustrations with SA?

What other websites would you guys recommend for meeting girls (both pro and non-pro) in Brazil? Out of all the dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, what ones are the most promising?

It's not surprising your disappointed in Seeking if you haven't landed a date yet. What you are finding is that it's a shit ton of work. And what you hve not had yet is the benefit of that shit ton of work. I describe it as a massive pile of bullshit. And somewhere in that pile is a diamond. But you have to slog thru all of the shit ti find it. As you hve not found it yet, all you see is the shit. 😋.

I wrote s short guide on Seeking I'the be happy to send (I've dated over 50 girls on Seeking). Just hmu. But let me try to summarize a few key thoughts.

It's a numbers game. From a percentages POV prob less than 30% of girls will even respond to your message. And maybe 10% will be worth chatting further with. And then you get down to 1-3 who are worth taking on a date (bedding) and you get down to specifics and go consumate the deal. So your experience is not surprising. A few tips:

Try to mention something specific from their profile in your opener. Stay away from generic openers they've seen a zillion times.

Drive the conversation with questions. Never ever end an exchange without another question or she will just fade out.

Take things over to WhatsApp within a couple days of contact. Once you are on what's things stay more connected because the girls are not on SA 247.

It sounds like you already know not to treat them like full on pros. I like it to an online bar. Like you are picking up girls with your charm and charisma. But via text.

Never ever do the "coffee meetup". Always go for dinner and or drinks and take it to the room first night. That is when the momentum exists.

So why even bother, when you have Boates etc in So Paulo. And I generally agree with that. Seeking is best where pussy is hard to find. Like USA. That said Seekingbis just a completely different experience. It's like a real date and real feelings can get involved if you let them. Plus Sundays generally suck in South America so that's a great Seeking day. And finally you can develop really quality repeat relationships. I can fly to any of 5 or so cities and be guaranteed a quality date with a girl I adore and quality sex at the end. I have girls I've been seeing since I started Seeking in 2019.

Two final thoughts.

One. The diamonds do exist. Even in Brazil. I had a legit 9. 5 Seeking girl in Rio. She was either 400 or 500 R and we had a full 3-4 hour date. 9. 5 looks. 9. 5 personality. 9. 5 in bed. A true diamond. Right there in Rio. I had been browsing and chatting for a couple weeks and snagged her at 10 PM Sat night for a Sunday date. See point 2.

Sometimes going last minute totally works. My OPENER is "Going out for a nice dinner and drinks tonight. Join me?" This sounds so aggressive. Fuck we haven't even said Hello, yet. But this has worked for me at least five times sometimes with spectacular results.

So it's a ton of work but worth it IMO. HMU if you need any further help Or join in the chat w the rest of the Seeking enthusiasts here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements

[Murtyle]

Hey all,

I'm flying into SP on Tuesday and I have a long layover. I've tried to read through the forum and it seems it's going to be tough to find a place that's open. Does anyone know of a place that will be open on Tuesday?

Thanks!

[Sp1000]

57 does post the WhatsApp status. Abbobora sadly no. Also remember to add the Brazil phone code +55 if using a US phone.

The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.
The latest numbers of a dozen clinicas around Moema are posted or look for new numbers pinned. There are two or three posts with the working wassap number.
In SP, wake up, grab my phone, start checking the clinicas wassap lineup of photos faces, names, four hands specials to plan my day for Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, Spa Moah, Chanel, Yankin, Lushness, Red visits and many more.
For Tangara and Prime clinicas I like to know the time garotas in foto lineup is supposed to show up or if she is already in the house. There is no guarantee she will show up for the day, stuff happens.
In my experience, Enjoy Clinca has one of the most flaky schedules for appointments. Enjoy 's lineup schedule for the day is flaky or bait and switch. The garotas show up damn late in the afternoon, definitely not on time, if at all. Sometimes the garota prefer to stay in the other sister clinica Miruna.
Enjoy Spa will post a deep lineup of photos.
ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.
Abbobora has a deep lineup of beautiful sun tanned, sun drenched SEXY Brancas. Dayum! And real pain-in-the-ass chica at the front desk, others already mentioned their dealings with her.

Thanks for letting me know. For Tangara, their second number in gp guia worked with Whatsapp.

I do not know how things work in clinicas. Clinica receptions can explain in English or I need to use google translator?

My further concern is being ripped off, while prices are described in automatic replies via Whatsapp.

A few posts that I remember here reported 190 including BBBJ or CIM in Tangara or Yankin and 330 including CBJ in Abbobora.

Let's say I want to include BBBJ and CIM. Prices can be way above the range of 200-300 depending on girls, which means I may need to negotiate with another girl for a cheaper price for that service?

Also, I can see that Prime, Miruna, Enjoy and Abbobora are in close proximity. Is it safe to walk among them if I do not like a lineup in the first place and want to check the next?

I feel like seeing in person instead of making an appoinment since I do not have good experiences in booking girls based on photos.

[Above Average]

After seeing a lot of positive feedback on these forums I decided to give seekingarragements.com (SA) a try, and so far I've found the experience pretty underwhelming. I got some good photos of myself and a decent profile (and I've received compliments on both my photos and profile) and a premium subscription, and I get quite a bit of attention but I find it very difficult to secure any sort of meetings.

Most of the girls I'm interested in just stop responding to my messages eventually, and many don't reply in the first place. Most of the attention I'm getting is from women that I wouldn't want to sleep with, even for free.

I get the impression that all of the girls on that website want large sums of money, but none of them want to ask for it. I don't bring up money early in the conversation because I first want to figure out if the girl is worth my time but I feel like this is where I am losing a lot of girls.

I've been searching girls in Sao Paulo and Rio De Janeiro for the past month (so Holidays shouldn't be an issue). Have you guys experienced similar frustrations with SA?

What other websites would you guys recommend for meeting girls (both pro and non-pro) in Brazil? Out of all the dating apps like Tinder, Hinge, Bumble, what ones are the most promising?

[SamaRiding]

The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.

ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.

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57 does post the WhatsApp status. Abbobora sadly no. Also remember to add the Brazil phone code +55 if using a US phone.

[JSmith80]

The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.

Under.

Acomphantes Sao Paulo.

CLnicas de Massagens SP.

The latest numbers of a dozen clinicas around Moema are posted or look for new numbers pinned. There are two or three posts with the working wassap number.

In SP, wake up, grab my phone, start checking the clinicas wassap lineup of photos faces, names, four hands specials to plan my day for Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, Spa Moah, Chanel, Yankin, Lushness, Red visits and many more.

My routine is to be knee-deep in a drunken porno, fantasy threesomes from 11 am to 7 pm each day, then uber over to Scandallo from evening to 3 am. Repeat every day for trip.

For Tangara and Prime clinicas I like to know the time garotas in foto lineup is supposed to show up or if she is already in the house. There is no guarantee she will show up for the day, stuff happens.

In my experience, Enjoy Clinca has one of the most flaky schedules for appointments. Enjoy 's lineup schedule for the day is flaky or bait and switch. The garotas show up damn late in the afternoon, definitely not on time, if at all. Sometimes the garota prefer to stay in the other sister clinica Miruna.

Enjoy Spa will post a deep lineup of photos. I Uber over there in 5 min, going from front entrance of Miruna to Enjoy's wooden door. I arrive to find only one or two or sometimes no garotas available in the place. A disappointment. The okder front desk gal is cool though. I know her from the years She worked at 57 Friends. Occasionally Enjoy will cover the cost of a taxi back to Miruna when nobody shows up at Enjoy. Your experience may vary.

ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.

Abbobora has a deep lineup of beautiful sun tanned, sun drenched SEXY Brancas. Dayum! And real pain-in-the-ass chica at the front desk, others already mentioned their dealings with her.

I did meet up with a amazing 21-year-old blond Branca outside of Abbobora. It was a slow day, she is there only two days every two or three weeks. She rides the bus back to her city which is a few hours away from SP.

Sometimes I ask the once-a-week or weekend-only garotas if they met their $$ number. We chatted, she didn't meet her. $$ goal that day. So we met up before her bus trip at my apart hotel Tsue Flats, a 5 min walk from Abbobora. What superb experience it was illusion of passion (IoP) meets illusion of money (IoM).

Later she traveled back to SP a few weeks later to hook up again.

YMMV, I still like scheduling appointments and making the presentation rounds in Moema clinicas daytime.

That's a hell of a demanding schedule. How do you keep your stamina up? I also had planned to do two clinics prior to Scandallo in the evening but never made it past one. I also opted to consume only coconut water, protein shakes and some pasta over other types of dishes to avoid lethargy during the day.

J.

[Tochka]

Is it possible to check the list of girls and their photos?

If asking by whatsapp, I guess they will only let me know the names of available girls that day.

But even for "chat via whatsapp", I cannot connect. Whatsapp says "the phone number isn't on whatsapp".

How can I do? Connecting to Yankin's whatsapp worked at least.

The wassap phone numbers are posted on gp guia net.

Under.

Acomphantes Sao Paulo.

CLnicas de Massagens SP.

The latest numbers of a dozen clinicas around Moema are posted or look for new numbers pinned. There are two or three posts with the working wassap number.

In SP, wake up, grab my phone, start checking the clinicas wassap lineup of photos faces, names, four hands specials to plan my day for Tangara, Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, Spa Moah, Chanel, Yankin, Lushness, Red visits and many more.

My routine is to be knee-deep in a drunken porno, fantasy threesomes from 11 am to 7 pm each day, then uber over to Scandallo from evening to 3 am. Repeat every day for trip.

For Tangara and Prime clinicas I like to know the time garotas in foto lineup is supposed to show up or if she is already in the house. There is no guarantee she will show up for the day, stuff happens.

In my experience, Enjoy Clinca has one of the most flaky schedules for appointments. Enjoy 's lineup schedule for the day is flaky or bait and switch. The garotas show up damn late in the afternoon, definitely not on time, if at all. Sometimes the garota prefer to stay in the other sister clinica Miruna.

Enjoy Spa will post a deep lineup of photos. I Uber over there in 5 min, going from front entrance of Miruna to Enjoy's wooden door. I arrive to find only one or two or sometimes no garotas available in the place. A disappointment. The okder front desk gal is cool though. I know her from the years She worked at 57 Friends. Occasionally Enjoy will cover the cost of a taxi back to Miruna when nobody shows up at Enjoy. Your experience may vary.

ABBBORA clinica and 57 House Friend don't post team lineups or send wassap photos of the garotas I still ask for the presentation fotos anyway and she never sends. In person only. Sigh.

Abbobora has a deep lineup of beautiful sun tanned, sun drenched SEXY Brancas. Dayum! And real pain-in-the-ass chica at the front desk, others already mentioned their dealings with her.

I did meet up with a amazing 21-year-old blond Branca outside of Abbobora. It was a slow day, she is there only two days every two or three weeks. She rides the bus back to her city which is a few hours away from SP.

Sometimes I ask the once-a-week or weekend-only garotas if they met their $$ number. We chatted, she didn't meet her. $$ goal that day. So we met up before her bus trip at my apart hotel Tsue Flats, a 5 min walk from Abbobora. What superb experience it was illusion of passion (IoP) meets illusion of money (IoM).

Later she traveled back to SP a few weeks later to hook up again.

YMMV, I still like scheduling appointments and making the presentation rounds in Moema clinicas daytime.