Sao Paulo Reports

[Krilimag]

Hello fellow mongers,

I will be in SP in about a month and would like to sample the local talents. Wanted to know if any have used splove https://splove.com.br/.

They have a great videos of the ladies. Wanted to know if these are clinicas or do they also do outcall to your hotels? Any reports is greatly appreciated.

TY.

[Turgid]

.....Jakarta of all the various destinations in SE Asia, perhaps most resembles Sao Paulo, but there are key differences to its venues. Malio Club / Malioboro, a longtime favorite high-end honky tonk of mine.......

I sometimes try to decide on the best mongering trip I've ever made and Jakarta comes out at the top. One month in 2015. Malio Club / Malioboro is the major reason why I rate it so highly. Also Classic with hundreds of hot Indo girls contributes. For me Indonesian women are the most beautiful in SEA.

[SoberHans69]

I've never visited Jakarta as I've read quite a few posts on this forum from regular posters that the Classic and Travel hotel are Mafia run and the girls there are basically controlled by them. Not sure how true this is but personally I'm not going to knowingly go to somewhere like that.

Been going to Pattaya for years and its rubbish compared to what it used to be. Soi 6 is mainly a drinking street now and the town is just full of overpriced Go Go's. 99% of the women in the Gentleman clubs I wouldn't fuck for free. There is still good value online but online mongering bores the sh1 t out of me. Most Thai girls suck in bed too (no pun intended), especially compared to the Brazilian girls.

In terms of mongering, nowhere can compete with Brazil imo.

[The Cane]

So, I dig Jakarta. I tend to think of Jakarta as the SP of SE Asia because it is set up in a similar fashion with everything kept low key behind closed doors as opposed to the out in the open circus circus atmosphere of BKK and Pattaya and everything in Jakarta is spread far apart. Combine Jakarta with a 3 week stay in LOS divided equally between BKK and Pat and maybe add on a week side trip to Phnom and you will have it made; a GREAT SE ASIAN TRIP! And afterwards decide for yourself the rankings of your favorite bordellos and how they compare to Scandallo and how Indonesian girls compare to Brazilian girls.

I don't want to spend much more time here talking about places other than Brazil, but I have to ask. How are the Indonesian girls when it comes to anal? Hehehe! I mean that's a legitimate inquiry if you're going to be holding them up to the Brazilian girls LOL! And I heard that traffic is worse than Manila's even. That's hard to imagine!

[Steve 9696]

Thanks Axel for the epic post. I admit I have not been to Jakarta and have no reason to go. But now I'm going to make one! Two clarifications / augmentations to Axels post.

For those not familiar his use of LOS means Land of Smiles aka Thailand.

And he is 100% spot on that the neon and zillion bar girls trying to drag you into their club and the nearly unlimited quantity of gogos and hot girls is epic in Thailand. If a man is to plan a complete life he must do Scandallo, FKK, and Thailand (I prefer Nana plaza to Cowboy these days). And apparently Jakarta as well. I will start planning! Thanks Axel.

[FlowState985]

What's the deal with Tangara?

They have so many women on shift but the hot ones are always taken. I sometime spot one and would be told someone has booked her. The available ones are 5's, I have yet to pop there. Would be wanting to try Lily there.

Prebook thru whatsapp like most of the local do.

[Axel Heyst]

Warning: I dig Asian girls! I also dig Brazilian girls! And I don't know a thing about European bordellos and do not care. 555.

I will break it down like this: currently I have 2 favorite mongering destinations where I enjoy spending a lot of time (more than a month in each place per visit): Brazil & LOS, more specifically I like SP, BKK, and Pattaya.

Note: if any of you South American aficionados have not been to Thailand, GO before it is too late! Sooner rather than later / take my word for it. Because no place on Earth has the volume and quantity of girls, bars, massage parlors, FL's, SWs, and you name it, they got it from 11 am to 5 am. And it is all out in the open. Just roll out of your hotel and you are in the thick of it. It is fucking amazing! It changed my life 30 years ago!

Girls:

There are a number of worthy SE Asian destinations that I like almost as much as Brazil & LOS, but I wouldn't want to spend more than 2 weeks in many of these cities on any one trip. Currently post covid, I am thinking mostly about going back to Jakarta & Phnom Penh, but if looks and performance count as it does in my book, I give the edge to Jakarta over Phnom narrowly.

Jakarta girls usually come with pretty SE Asian faces, well-endowed natural ta ta's and they usually have slender bodies with few tats or surgical work unlike Thai girls. They are also more active and less spoiled in bed than Thai girls although not as GFE inclined as Khmer or Filipina girls. Kind of like the Asian equivalent of Brazilian girls. Ha Ha. Kind of.

Jakarta Bars & Clubs:

It is hard to compare various venues because of the differences between them from destination to destination. I consider Scandallo to be the benchmark. It is one of the best bordellos in the world, but it is unique because as a Boate it is essentially a FL bordello nightclub, bar / restaurant with live entertainment, a hefty consumable entry fee, hotel rooms, and if you want a reasonable girly take away fee.

Jakarta of all the various destinations in SE Asia, perhaps most resembles Sao Paulo, but there are key differences to its venues. Malio Club / Malioboro, a longtime favorite high-end honky tonk of mine, is set up a little different than Scandallo or other SP Boates being that the girls either work for the club or work for a mamasan in the club and there is no girly take away fee except at prohibitory prices. Hotel Alexis, another great Jakarta bordello, which used to be my all-time favorite in terms of quality and quantity could easily rival Scandallo, but again it was not a takeout place and its girls worked for the house. I think of Hotel Alexis as an RJ Terma on steroids. Too bad it got busted and shut down in 2018 on account of having a few underage girls. Its replacement club, 1001 Pool, is just not as good IMHO, but they still have a large number (over 100) of girls on any given night.

But let's not forget Classic Hotel which resembles an inexpensive RJ Terma on super, super, super, steroids. Come to think of it, Classic is more like Casaro in this respect. But imagine 3 floors with hundreds and hundreds of young Indonesian girls on each floor and with the cost of a girl less than at Casaro. I mean seriously this is a must-see joint! You are either going to love it or hate it. It ain't like Scandallo, no way, but I will bet good money, you will love it.

Then there are the 5-star Jakarta Hotel FL pick up bars like CJ's and Bats. These bars resemble Scandallo too, but in a different way. A lot of FL girls show up at these bars every night. CJ's, the larger and better one, usually has at least a 100 girls most nights by 11 pm standing between the VIP section and the rest of the bar all dressed up really nice and sophisticated like waiting for Mr. Customer, but CJ's has no rooms unless you happen to be staying at the 5 star Mulia Senayan hotel (which houses CJ's on the 2nd floor) for a couple of hundred dollars / night. In any case, these high class FL pickup bars have a one drink minimum, but no barfine or girly exit fee. There are just high-class pick-up joints with "live" entertainment, drinks, and food. Find a girl you like and leave or stay, drink, party / fool around all night with your girl or girls and then leave.

So, I dig Jakarta. I tend to think of Jakarta as the SP of SE Asia because it is set up in a similar fashion with everything kept low key behind closed doors as opposed to the out in the open circus circus atmosphere of BKK and Pattaya and everything in Jakarta is spread far apart. The CGK bordellos are in the north, the 5-star hotel pick up bars are in the south and you will need Bluebird taxis to get around. I highly recommend this city for a 2-week visit.

Combine Jakarta with a 3 week stay in LOS divided equally between BKK and Pat and maybe add on a week side trip to Phnom and you will have it made; a GREAT SE ASIAN TRIP! And afterwards decide for yourself the rankings of your favorite bordellos and how they compare to Scandallo and how Indonesian girls compare to Brazilian girls.

[DonMoscow]

What's the deal with Tangara?

They have so many women on shift but the hot ones are always taken. I sometime spot one and would be told someone has booked her. The available ones are 5's, I have yet to pop there. Would be wanting to try Lily there.

[DonMoscow]

I think the majority of hobbyist would agree that the FKK / Romanian girls on average can't compete with Scandallo / Brazilian women in terms of service quality.

Out of all the Romanian women I've been with, only one is was true gem.

Out of all the Brazilian women I've been with, only one is was true suck.

[Balboa]

I also like Vive Madrid which is waaaaay smaller than Scandallo but same basic idea and all South American girls.

Great post!

Vive, however, does not have all South American girls.

Lots of them, true.

[The Cane]

Destinations (based totally on personal preference):

1. Brazil.

2. Germany.

3. Spain.

4. Costa Rica.

5. Thailand (number 1 if you're into Asian chicks).

Clubs (based on total years of experience going to each):

1. Scandallo (Sao Paulo).

2. Quatro por Quatro (Rio de Janeiro).

3. Oase (Frankfurt).

4. Artemis (Berlin).

5. Palace (Frankfurt).

You'll notice that I don't have popular FKK Sharks on my list. There's nothing particularly wrong with Sharks that I can point to. It's just not a club that has ever really worked for me. Can't put my finger on why. It just doesn't. Not for me. And these top 5 lists are only just scratching the surface. There are so many countries to visit and clubs to see where you can have a good time! My experience is light in Asia mainly because I'm really not attracted to most Asian women. ISO, I can't justify spending money going to Asia to monger a lot. But the Philippines is another must-do destination if you're a monger. Does not make my top 5 destination list, but if I liked Asian women more it would be number 2 right after Thailand. Yes sir it would! Dubai is another one. The place offers the best diversity in the world (last night I doggy fucked a Russian blonde, tonight I'm fucking some exotic Turkmen pussy, and tomorrow night going to Ratsky to get me a Filipina spinner. And York has Ethiopians, Chinese, and Turks)!

[The Cane]

So given the difficulties with China / Russia I'the prob say the top five after Scandallo for me are:

Globe FKK.

Sharks FKK.

Oase FKK.

Casarao (sure that will be debated but I like it).

Vive.

I can't rank order them. It's like rank ordering your children. 😜.

Ps I am sure some Rio enthusiasts will chime in but I was very underwhelmed by 4x4. I found Monte Carlo Terma great for pretty girls and great service. But we are talking 10 girls not 100 so not sure it counts.

Brazil and Germany are my two favorite countries for mongering (I like Spain a lot too but not as much these days due to decreased value delivery for the money). So, I don't have a real issue with your list except for Globe in Switzerland. The cost of mongering there (girls, transportation, lodging, food, etc.) is all way, way, way too high. Zurich is consistently ranked as one of the most expensive cities in the world. For anyone who is a "budget monger" (I'm not one) it's totally out of the question as an option. When it comes to pussy you can get the same girl optics and service level in Germany for half the price. That's been my experience. Now, should every man experience Globe at least once if he can? Yeah. But go there on any kind of regular basis? Naw! Not unless you just happen to live there and you really can't get away. As far as the Rio termas go they will always get a big thumbs up from me. But I can see why you were underwhelmed. My last experiences with them weren't nearly as good as when I first started going in the early 2000's, even at the world famous 4 x4. I found a girl there I liked and had a good session, but the place had really fallen off in terms of talent. It used to be loaded with hotties delivering PSE sex in the room. We all just need to remember that it all works in cycles. The place that was hot last time is not this time, and vice versa. But, there's always next time. So here's hoping for the future!

[Steve 9696]

Wow that's impressive, what would be your top 5 adult clubs worldwide?

Fwiw I agree with pretty much everything Socrates said. I suppose the key point is there is a big drop off after Scandallo. Nothing comes close for the combination of number of girls, luxe atmosphere, and good GFE experience (on balance your average brasileira is more sexually engaging than any other country imo). So honestly if I was going to go somewhere else it might just be Casarao. Yes a major step down but packed with people and plenty of hot girls. So it would prob make my top five. Or maybe Bomboa or Cafe Photo could be argued for the list. I hope to hit all of the major SP clubs in the next few months and will be sure to compare and contrast here.

As Socrates says FKK is a very different experience and something every man must do. My buddy Blue Moon just fucked 10 chicks this past week in an epic FKK tour. Very doable thing! And XXL has the lineup right. Globe is prob the best FKK in the world for guaranteed service. Zurich. And Sharks has the glitz and glam more like Scandallo but down a notch in class ones for sure and the girls are very pushy.

I also like Vive Madrid which is waaaaay smaller than Scandallo but same basic idea and all South American girls.

Manhattan in Shanghai was amazing with tons of Viets but China is cracking down so not 100% sure it's as good. As with SP I plan to disambiguate this later this year!

And Penthouse or Aurora or Angels in Moscow might get the nod if you could travel there. So given the difficulties with China / Russia I'the prob say the top five after Scandallo for me are:

Globe FKK.

Sharks FKK.

Oase FKK.

Casarao (sure that will be debated but I like it).

Vive.

I can't rank order them. It's like rank ordering your children. 😜.

Ps I am sure some Rio enthusiasts will chime in but I was very underwhelmed by 4x4. I found Monte Carlo Terma great for pretty girls and great service. But we are talking 10 girls not 100 so not sure it counts.

[SocratesNY]

FKK Sharks, Darmstadt.
FKK Globe, Zurich.

Comparing FKKs to a Brazilian boate is a bit like comparing oranges to tangerines.

One has a sauna / spa like atmosphere with amenities to fit, while the other is a luxurious nighttime club, restaurant and lounge.

Both FKKs you listed aren't even close to Scandallo in the most important thing for a hobbyist. The girls. This is especially true and the gap has only grown post-pandemic.

Sharks might compete occasionally with Scandallo with regards to the amount of girls present. But in terms of quality and service of the girls, Scandallo wins easily.

Taste in women is subjective, but I think the majority of hobbyist would agree that the FKK / Romanian girls on average can't compete with Scandallo / Brazilian women in terms of service quality.

In the past, you could argue that you could get more value / bang for your buck at FKKs, but with the increase in FKK pricing and the weak real, that's no longer the case.

I have been going to FKKs for over a decade, as I travel to Europe for work often. I used to visit them almost daily / nightly on my trips. In my last few trips since the pandemic, I've soured on them so much after my initial visit of the trip, I've not returned on subsequent days.

I think the only areas that I now consider FKKs to be superior are: 1) if you prefer naked girls walking around over girls in revealing dresses 2) you prefer the Romanian or Eastern European look (although those can be found in Scandallo too) or 3) you enjoy watching public sex (FKK Gkobe only).

With that said, I think all hobbyist should visit a big or well known FKK at least once in their life. It is a sight to see. And who knows, FKKs might be their preferred hobbying venue.

[BartSimpson5]

Seriously. I have been everywhere. Nothing can touch Scandallo worldwide for the number and talent level of the girls, nor honestly the scope and luxury of it. Def baddest chick venue on the planet. And they are all Brasileiras! Baddest chicks on the planet attitude wise. It's the mega win. Will be boots on the ground soon and def report out.

Wow that's impressive, what would be your top 5 adult clubs worldwide?