Sao Paulo Reports

[AltoBomGosto]

Gentlemen. For years I have benefitted from the forum, and it is time to give back. This is my first post, and I hope that it proves useful. With regards to the Sao Paulo Forum, the quantity of information was at first overwhelming, and it took a while to RTFF (over the course of a few weeks!) , but it was worth it. But I understand that not all of us has the time to parse through several thousand posts mining the forum for the bits of information relevant to ones situation, tastes, specific location and budget. Last year, I generated a document for my own personal use in sampa, using of course, all the material and insights from the forum (many thanks to all of you!). Below I hope the sections on neighborhoods in Sao Paulo, sightseeing recommendations, transit, taxis, getting a cell number, and getting laid at clubs, online, and private houses (brothels) is well summarized (using forum information, peppered with some of my own experiences) :

BEST BAIRROS

(best neighborhoods) in Sao Paulo for logistics, culture, hobby and safety are:

JARDINS:

Best place to stay, and best central location. Ave Paulista has the highest concentration of women working out of their apartments, normally charging R$200. There are however several regular bars where non-pro pick up is possible: Bar Balção, San Francisco, O'malleys (Alameda Itu. 1529. Jardim Paulista). I did not have any success at o'malleys, although, it is a pretty good bar. Jardins over all is a great place.

ITIAM BIBI:

Epicenter for regular non-pro nightlife, or so I read. Also includes Vila Olimpia sub-neighborhood. Recommended regular bars: Azucar Boogie, Corleonne Bar, Dublin (Entry R$40) , Show Bar, Favela, Rey Castro, Moca Bonita, and The Bar. I did like this neighborhood, but never scored there.

PINHEIROS:

Laidback, unpretentious, lively, strategically located neighbourhood. Many live music venues. Less nightlife. Oscar Freire, Bela Cintra and HLobo areas. Regular bars: Bar Mangeira, Salamandra. I actually did not like Pinheiros very much, nor did I score there.

MOEMA:

More remote and thus may require R$120 / night in taxi transit to nightlife areas. Estalagem for picking up non-pros between 5-8pm (Av Moema com Irãe). Moema has no metro, a real logistical bummer.

SAMPA SIGHTSEEING.

Estaçao the Luz, Museo the Lingua Portuguesa, Masp, Edificio Copan, Avenida Paulista, Museu do Ipiranga, Banespa, Vale do Anhangabáyou, Catedral the Sá, Estação the Luz, Pinacoteca. Personally, I went to Museo Lingua Portuguese, Pinacoteca and the Catedral de Sa and I liked them, they are worth visiting. But I was not impresed with MASP. Although the trianon park next to it is a great place to relax and recharge between sessions.

SAMPA TRANSIT.

The GRU airport arrivals exit only has pre-paid taxis. 2nd level has cheaper metered taxis. Pre-paid airport taxis (named Guaricoop) have published flat rate fees to different neighborhoods (I paid about R$135 to go to Berrini and R$165 to go to Alphaville). To save a little doe, one can take the GRU shuttle to the metro station Tiete, and take the metro to your destination from there. (which also has a large bus station.) I am a big fan of the Sao Paulo metro system. One can buy a metro card in nearly any metro station. You can load a maximum of R$200 onto the card.

As for Taxis make sure the taxi driver uses the meter. Many taxistas do not fully know SP and easily get lost. There are two taxi rates: Bandeira A (before 10pm) and Bandeira B (after 10pm). Do not take a taxi that your garota knows or insists on, as you will most certainly be over-charged.

SAMPA CELL:

Bring your passport to nearly any official TIM store, and you can obtain a SIM chip. I personally have used the TIM store on the first level of the Shopping Paulista (a mall, open sundays). The person in the store will register the SIM for you and activate your number (be sure to have your quad-band cell phone unblocked before inserting a SIM chip). The SIM chip costs about R$15. However, once you get the service, my experience was you had go to another store like Lojas Americanas or to a newstand vendor to purchase talk-time / minutes (otherwise known in Brazil as a "recarga" or a recharge). Just hand over your cell number and cash to the cashier and she will rechrage it for you, and you should receive a text message immedatiely statrting your new balance. Foreigners without a CPF can only obtain prepaid cell service. A R$50 recharge will last 6 months, after that, without a recharge, your number will expire and you have to get a new SIM chip. I am not sure if the other providers other than TIM offer prepaid service to foreigners. I can vouch for the fact that without a recharge for more than 6 months, even if you do not use all your minutes, your number will expire. Forcing you to get a new chip / number, and buy minutes.

THE "PROGRAMA" aka "FS"

Some advice I learned from the sampa forum (and I can vouch for its accuracy, as I learned the hard way) : Never pay more than R$200 (2011) for 90min for incall, if that is your thing. As for the clubs, Avoid the garotas that aggressively go after higher end drinks, in fact, get rid of them immediately if they down their drink within 2 minutes, asking for another. Just be a dick, get rid of her, cut your losses for the drink and try to find a less aggressive garota, you will thank yourself later. Better yet, insist on negotiating for FS before hand, and then buy her a drink.

CLUBS. At clubs and freelance bars, where there are many garotas eyeing you as an opportunity, it is best to take the "costarriquense" approach I learned in Costa Rica, which means that, determine what the fee for an hour of FS should be using the pricing insights of the forum and dictate that amount to the garota that approaches you during your negotiation process with her, and don't budge. In Latin America, you are the man, and thus you are the boss. In Costa rica, I learned that you just tell the girl that you only have X amount to spend (X amount being reasonable or average) , and that is the end of it. If she pouts and leaves. Don't feel bad, it is actually a good thing, as the other garotas will see that you are not some dumb floormat that'll pay anything, and guarantees that the next garota that comes your way will be more flexible after witnessing what just happened. Sort of like dealing with car salesmen, if that make sense?

MP (Massage Parlors). Be careful at some MP's, as the cost for the massage can be separate from the cost of FS. Check beforehand on the services included. Many of these sites have "binders full of women" LOL, literally (photos included in the binder with price) , to choose from.

PRIVÊ. Private houses. Just ring the doorbell to enter upon arrival. These are brothels with multiple garotas available inside a private residence. This is my preferred venue. Less complicated, a known and predetermined price, you see the options before you during an initial presentation of the garotas immediately after your entry and you pick, she takes you to a private room with a bed for fucking. Several of them offer you a beer upon entry. What could be better?

RUA AUGUSTA.

There is a place (or rather a street) called Rua Augusta, that is accessible from the Consolacao metro station. There are Approximately 20 clubs (I have read that there are more) clustered around a point about 8 blocks northeast from the metro. Most open at 5pm, but don't bother arriving until 10pm (when the garotas are present). Virtually all have rooms onsite, but not all, so you should ask at the door. This area is a little seedy yet safe and populated area at night. Recommended for the high concentration of FS opportunities in such a compact area.

-Below are my personal experiences (chronologically ordered) with a number of the FS places already discussed in the Sao Paulo forum-

1. NAME: Antares

TYPE: CLínica (massage parlor with FS extras)

ADDRESS: Ave Bosque the Saude. 268

NEIGHBORHOOD: Praça the Arvore

HOURS: Mon-Sat / 12pm-8pm

PRICE: R$180 / hr w / FS.

This place use to originally charge R$150, but now they are at R$180. Although the street outside seems not-so-clean or safe, the facilities are excellent and reception is very helpful. They provide a binder to browse through during your garota selection. Unfortunately, I chose someone who had not updated there pictures in a while, and got a garota who had gained a lot of weight. The massage and session was mechanical and not worth the money spend. Upon exiting, I saw better looking garotas waiting in the waiting area. This place only has garotas of european descent, if that is your thing. I never went back.

2. Bangkok

CLínica Pça Monteiro dos Santos 65

Vila Mariana

Daytime

R$100.

This place seems closed permanently.

3. Center

CLínica

Rua Atlântica 600

Jd. Paulista

MSa / 12-9

R$140

Was presented with 4 options of garotas, none of which impressed me. There was one garota that was pretty good looking, but was younger than my tastes and had braces, so I passed and left.

4. Cherry

CLínica

Rua Rascal 2019

Campo Belo

Day

R$130, R$190 in 2011.

My belt-notching documentation says that I went here, but I don't remember. Damn, must be alzheimers or that this place did not offer anything memoriable.

5. Eu e Elas

Terma

Rua Pires the Mota 494 (34yrs)

Liberdade.

MSa / 3-9

R$150 Qty:20 Qly:7 E/ção:R$80 incl buffet. Qrto:R$40. Great for Voyeurs.

I never went here, but I plan to go the next time in town. It is a legendary place thats been in business for eons and caters to those with voyeuristic tastes. Definitely seems worth a try at least once.

6. Fanisex

Privê

Rua Loefgreen 934

Vila Mariana.

MSa / 12-9

R$110

I went to the address, but this place seems closed or moved elsewhere.

7. New Time

CLínica

Rua Nilo 395

Paraíso.

MFi / 12-5

R$100

The mamasan is very friendly and helpful, but in the end I didn't session here due to the absence of a decent looking garota, mostly fatties. Turned the options down during the presentation and left.

8. Redway

Privê

Rua Machado de Assis 449

Vila Mariana (metro Ana Rosa)

Mon-Sat / 10am-10pm, closed sun.

R$120 / one hour.

This is by far my favorite in Sao Paulo and second favorite in all of Brazil (Fascinacao in Belo Horizonte is my favorite). The management (Vani and Patricia) is very nice, helpful and competent. The service and facilities are impeccable, everything is clean and all the garotas smile and seem happy. There is normally always an abundance and nice variety of garotas to choose from, and most are in the 7 range. One or two 8s, one of two 6s. This is by far the best known bargain in terms of chica quality and price. The owners nearly always provide a beverage and occasionally barbeque. This is where I had to pleasure to meet ABG in person. As for the selections, I would recommend Renata, Ana, Sueli, Rebecca, Carla, and Isidora. They were all really good.

9. Vanis Way

Privê

Rua Dom Antonio Galvão 266

Saúde (got to use metro station Santos Imigrantes, and then walk 15 minutes or take a taxi south to the second shell gas station on the right)

Mon-Sat / 12pm-9pm

R$100

This was probably my second most visited haunt in Sao Paulo, after Redway, but only becuase they had one garota that I really liked, although they did have a couple of other nice options, some of whom also work at Redway. The facilities are clean enough and comfortable, and the service is good. But the quality of the selection goes down just a notch, as you are only paying R$100 (end of 2012). But still, definitely worth visiting.

10. Balneario

Boate (nightclub with rooms)

Rua Augusta.

Nights. 9pm. Whenever.

This place had a fairly inconsistent quality range, with skanks to some decent talent (7) , though, it is not that clean. I did session here, but it was only OK, nothing memoriable. The service was friendly. I don't remember the entry fee. One interesting thing. While waiting for a beer after the session, a garota asked me if I could put money into the jukebox to listen to some song, and when I refused politely in portuguese, she screamed at me and left very rudely. Interesting. I suppose she was trying to illicit some kind of response. Maybe she was on drugs, donno, anyway, I looked at her if she was crazy, shrugged if of, laughed, and never came back.

11. Nighthouse

Boate

Rua Augusta 723

Rua Augusta

Open after 9 or 10pm

This place was pretty good, it did have some fairly good talent, offering reasonable prices on beer and garotas (although you still have to negotiate down a little bit). I was happy with it, and could return, but I did not session here as I was too drained from Redway earlier in the afternoon.

There are some other locations described in the forum that some members seem to be fine with some, but are way out of my price range or have inconsistent or bad reputations (according to some reports in the forum of course). So to simplify the mongering selection options, I eliminated the following from my personal destination list:

Avoid: Bahamas (price) , Bomboa (price) , Bon Vivant (price) , Blue Night (lack of quality) , Café Photo (price) , Carribbean (rip-off) , Connections (distance) , Donna (too late) , Emmanuelle (rip-off) , Gauguin (price) , Love Story (noise) , Palms (price) , Romanza (rip-off) , Tieta (quality) , WE (price).

Kilt seemed to be a interesting place go go, but was closed during my second to last trip. (It is similar to Casarao). However, when I was in Sampa, I read an article in a magazine that it had reopened.

Best of luck in Sao Paulo. It is an enormous city with nearly unlimited affordable mongering options. I hope this post helps, if any information is incorrect, please feel free to correct. Special thanks to ABG who gave me a lot of insights, thanks man. Obrigado

Dear Mathey.

You did a real good "areésumé" of Sampa.

It was a pleasure to be with you.

Redway is the place to go!

Vaní now has a brasilian / japonese co mamager, Takuma is his name, speaks english and japonese. Upon arrival ask him and tell him you are an ISG member and was recomended by ABG.

The garotas at Redway are "free lancers", best days to go there are Tuesday till Friday.

I know a bunch of famous brasilian mongers. As Redway has a back pateo with a churrasqueira, we promote a churrasco party, so the majorioty of the garotas will arrive. We espect some 20 garotas!

Today we will do a churrasco, it's going to be R$ 50, 00 per person entrance fee, meet and beer all you can eat/drink.

Some of our fellow mongers bring their own booze. Fell free to do it also! I suggest to bring some sparkling wine, the garotas love it!

Starts 4 PM. I´ll be there from 3 PM and on!

Asd this is a private party, please PM me and advise of your participation so I can put your name on the list.

All ISG are wellcome!

ABG

[Jan 156]

Towards mid-July I will arrive in Sao Paolo for a seven week work assignment. I will have a lot of free time on my hands and looking to meet several ladies while I am there. Usually I like to start out strong and see six to eight ladies in the first two weeks and then settle in to seeing the same two for the balance of my time. I understand that there is be a crop of new ladies nearly weekly but many have been around for a while and have good reputations. What is unclear to me is who are say the top five ladies? I understand person taste can determine that but I also find that usually three girls appear on everyones list consistently. I also would like to understand if there is a big difference between seeing one of the ladies at Redway or Red Massage and pay $130. $175 VS pay a bit more like $225. $300 with a private girl?

Also, I see several hotties listed as working in Santos. Will they travel up to Sao Paolo and are they worth it?

Also where is Litoral Paulista? Is that a barrio of SP?

Any and all help and advice is welcomed and appreciated as it has been some 15 years since I was last in Sao Paolo.

Thanks.

Errrmm. You do realise that SP is now the biggest city in the southern hemisphere? As in, several million people can pass through a single Metro station in one day.

If you go outside of SP (eg to Santos) I'd think of it as a major trip. I don't know what it was like 15 years ago but depending on the day and time now I guess you could probably fly to Rio with less hassle than getting to Santos.

[Mathey]

Gentlemen. For years I have benefitted from the forum, and it is time to give back. This is my first post, and I hope that it proves useful. With regards to the Sao Paulo Forum, the quantity of information was at first overwhelming, and it took a while to RTFF (over the course of a few weeks!) , but it was worth it. But I understand that not all of us has the time to parse through several thousand posts mining the forum for the bits of information relevant to ones situation, tastes, specific location and budget. Last year, I generated a document for my own personal use in sampa, using of course, all the material and insights from the forum (many thanks to all of you!). Below I hope the sections on neighborhoods in Sao Paulo, sightseeing recommendations, transit, taxis, getting a cell number, and getting laid at clubs, online, and private houses (brothels) is well summarized (using forum information, peppered with some of my own experiences) :

BEST BAIRROS

(best neighborhoods) in Sao Paulo for logistics, culture, hobby and safety are:

JARDINS:

Best place to stay, and best central location. Ave Paulista has the highest concentration of women working out of their apartments, normally charging R$200. There are however several regular bars where non-pro pick up is possible: Bar Balção, San Francisco, O'malleys (Alameda Itu. 1529. Jardim Paulista). I did not have any success at o'malleys, although, it is a pretty good bar. Jardins over all is a great place.

ITIAM BIBI:

Epicenter for regular non-pro nightlife, or so I read. Also includes Vila Olimpia sub-neighborhood. Recommended regular bars: Azucar Boogie, Corleonne Bar, Dublin (Entry R$40) , Show Bar, Favela, Rey Castro, Moca Bonita, and The Bar. I did like this neighborhood, but never scored there.

PINHEIROS:

Laidback, unpretentious, lively, strategically located neighbourhood. Many live music venues. Less nightlife. Oscar Freire, Bela Cintra and HLobo areas. Regular bars: Bar Mangeira, Salamandra. I actually did not like Pinheiros very much, nor did I score there.

MOEMA:

More remote and thus may require R$120 / night in taxi transit to nightlife areas. Estalagem for picking up non-pros between 5-8pm (Av Moema com Irãe). Moema has no metro, a real logistical bummer.

SAMPA SIGHTSEEING.

Estaçao the Luz, Museo the Lingua Portuguesa, Masp, Edificio Copan, Avenida Paulista, Museu do Ipiranga, Banespa, Vale do Anhangabáyou, Catedral the Sá, Estação the Luz, Pinacoteca. Personally, I went to Museo Lingua Portuguese, Pinacoteca and the Catedral de Sa and I liked them, they are worth visiting. But I was not impresed with MASP. Although the trianon park next to it is a great place to relax and recharge between sessions.

SAMPA TRANSIT.

The GRU airport arrivals exit only has pre-paid taxis. 2nd level has cheaper metered taxis. Pre-paid airport taxis (named Guaricoop) have published flat rate fees to different neighborhoods (I paid about R$135 to go to Berrini and R$165 to go to Alphaville). To save a little doe, one can take the GRU shuttle to the metro station Tiete, and take the metro to your destination from there. (which also has a large bus station.) I am a big fan of the Sao Paulo metro system. One can buy a metro card in nearly any metro station. You can load a maximum of R$200 onto the card.

As for Taxis make sure the taxi driver uses the meter. Many taxistas do not fully know SP and easily get lost. There are two taxi rates: Bandeira A (before 10pm) and Bandeira B (after 10pm). Do not take a taxi that your garota knows or insists on, as you will most certainly be over-charged.

SAMPA CELL:

Bring your passport to nearly any official TIM store, and you can obtain a SIM chip. I personally have used the TIM store on the first level of the Shopping Paulista (a mall, open sundays). The person in the store will register the SIM for you and activate your number (be sure to have your quad-band cell phone unblocked before inserting a SIM chip). The SIM chip costs about R$15. However, once you get the service, my experience was you had go to another store like Lojas Americanas or to a newstand vendor to purchase talk-time / minutes (otherwise known in Brazil as a "recarga" or a recharge). Just hand over your cell number and cash to the cashier and she will rechrage it for you, and you should receive a text message immedatiely statrting your new balance. Foreigners without a CPF can only obtain prepaid cell service. A R$50 recharge will last 6 months, after that, without a recharge, your number will expire and you have to get a new SIM chip. I am not sure if the other providers other than TIM offer prepaid service to foreigners. I can vouch for the fact that without a recharge for more than 6 months, even if you do not use all your minutes, your number will expire. Forcing you to get a new chip / number, and buy minutes.

THE "PROGRAMA" aka "FS"

Some advice I learned from the sampa forum (and I can vouch for its accuracy, as I learned the hard way) : Never pay more than R$200 (2011) for 90min for incall, if that is your thing. As for the clubs, Avoid the garotas that aggressively go after higher end drinks, in fact, get rid of them immediately if they down their drink within 2 minutes, asking for another. Just be a dick, get rid of her, cut your losses for the drink and try to find a less aggressive garota, you will thank yourself later. Better yet, insist on negotiating for FS before hand, and then buy her a drink.

CLUBS. At clubs and freelance bars, where there are many garotas eyeing you as an opportunity, it is best to take the "costarriquense" approach I learned in Costa Rica, which means that, determine what the fee for an hour of FS should be using the pricing insights of the forum and dictate that amount to the garota that approaches you during your negotiation process with her, and don't budge. In Latin America, you are the man, and thus you are the boss. In Costa rica, I learned that you just tell the girl that you only have X amount to spend (X amount being reasonable or average) , and that is the end of it. If she pouts and leaves. Don't feel bad, it is actually a good thing, as the other garotas will see that you are not some dumb floormat that'll pay anything, and guarantees that the next garota that comes your way will be more flexible after witnessing what just happened. Sort of like dealing with car salesmen, if that make sense?

MP (Massage Parlors). Be careful at some MP's, as the cost for the massage can be separate from the cost of FS. Check beforehand on the services included. Many of these sites have "binders full of women" LOL, literally (photos included in the binder with price) , to choose from.

PRIVÊ. Private houses. Just ring the doorbell to enter upon arrival. These are brothels with multiple garotas available inside a private residence. This is my preferred venue. Less complicated, a known and predetermined price, you see the options before you during an initial presentation of the garotas immediately after your entry and you pick, she takes you to a private room with a bed for fucking. Several of them offer you a beer upon entry. What could be better?

RUA AUGUSTA.

There is a place (or rather a street) called Rua Augusta, that is accessible from the Consolacao metro station. There are Approximately 20 clubs (I have read that there are more) clustered around a point about 8 blocks northeast from the metro. Most open at 5pm, but don't bother arriving until 10pm (when the garotas are present). Virtually all have rooms onsite, but not all, so you should ask at the door. This area is a little seedy yet safe and populated area at night. Recommended for the high concentration of FS opportunities in such a compact area.

-Below are my personal experiences (chronologically ordered) with a number of the FS places already discussed in the Sao Paulo forum-

1. NAME: Antares

TYPE: CLínica (massage parlor with FS extras)

ADDRESS: Ave Bosque the Saude. 268

NEIGHBORHOOD: Praça the Arvore

HOURS: Mon-Sat / 12pm-8pm

PRICE: R$180 / hr w / FS.

This place use to originally charge R$150, but now they are at R$180. Although the street outside seems not-so-clean or safe, the facilities are excellent and reception is very helpful. They provide a binder to browse through during your garota selection. Unfortunately, I chose someone who had not updated there pictures in a while, and got a garota who had gained a lot of weight. The massage and session was mechanical and not worth the money spend. Upon exiting, I saw better looking garotas waiting in the waiting area. This place only has garotas of european descent, if that is your thing. I never went back.

2. Bangkok

CLínica Pça Monteiro dos Santos 65

Vila Mariana

Daytime

R$100.

This place seems closed permanently.

3. Center

CLínica

Rua Atlântica 600

Jd. Paulista

MSa / 12-9

R$140

Was presented with 4 options of garotas, none of which impressed me. There was one garota that was pretty good looking, but was younger than my tastes and had braces, so I passed and left.

4. Cherry

CLínica

Rua Rascal 2019

Campo Belo

Day

R$130, R$190 in 2011.

My belt-notching documentation says that I went here, but I don't remember. Damn, must be alzheimers or that this place did not offer anything memoriable.

5. Eu e Elas

Terma

Rua Pires the Mota 494 (34yrs)

Liberdade.

MSa / 3-9

R$150 Qty:20 Qly:7 E/ção:R$80 incl buffet. Qrto:R$40. Great for Voyeurs.

I never went here, but I plan to go the next time in town. It is a legendary place thats been in business for eons and caters to those with voyeuristic tastes. Definitely seems worth a try at least once.

6. Fanisex

Privê

Rua Loefgreen 934

Vila Mariana.

MSa / 12-9

R$110

I went to the address, but this place seems closed or moved elsewhere.

7. New Time

CLínica

Rua Nilo 395

Paraíso.

MFi / 12-5

R$100

The mamasan is very friendly and helpful, but in the end I didn't session here due to the absence of a decent looking garota, mostly fatties. Turned the options down during the presentation and left.

8. Redway

Privê

Rua Machado de Assis 449

Vila Mariana (metro Ana Rosa)

Mon-Sat / 10am-10pm, closed sun.

R$120 / one hour.

This is by far my favorite in Sao Paulo and second favorite in all of Brazil (Fascinacao in Belo Horizonte is my favorite). The management (Vani and Patricia) is very nice, helpful and competent. The service and facilities are impeccable, everything is clean and all the garotas smile and seem happy. There is normally always an abundance and nice variety of garotas to choose from, and most are in the 7 range. One or two 8s, one of two 6s. This is by far the best known bargain in terms of chica quality and price. The owners nearly always provide a beverage and occasionally barbeque. This is where I had to pleasure to meet ABG in person. As for the selections, I would recommend Renata, Ana, Sueli, Rebecca, Carla, and Isidora. They were all really good.

9. Vanis Way

Privê

Rua Dom Antonio Galvão 266

Saúde (got to use metro station Santos Imigrantes, and then walk 15 minutes or take a taxi south to the second shell gas station on the right)

Mon-Sat / 12pm-9pm

R$100

This was probably my second most visited haunt in Sao Paulo, after Redway, but only becuase they had one garota that I really liked, although they did have a couple of other nice options, some of whom also work at Redway. The facilities are clean enough and comfortable, and the service is good. But the quality of the selection goes down just a notch, as you are only paying R$100 (end of 2012). But still, definitely worth visiting.

10. Balneario

Boate (nightclub with rooms)

Rua Augusta.

Nights. 9pm. Whenever.

This place had a fairly inconsistent quality range, with skanks to some decent talent (7) , though, it is not that clean. I did session here, but it was only OK, nothing memoriable. The service was friendly. I don't remember the entry fee. One interesting thing. While waiting for a beer after the session, a garota asked me if I could put money into the jukebox to listen to some song, and when I refused politely in portuguese, she screamed at me and left very rudely. Interesting. I suppose she was trying to illicit some kind of response. Maybe she was on drugs, donno, anyway, I looked at her if she was crazy, shrugged if of, laughed, and never came back.

11. Nighthouse

Boate

Rua Augusta 723

Rua Augusta

Open after 9 or 10pm

This place was pretty good, it did have some fairly good talent, offering reasonable prices on beer and garotas (although you still have to negotiate down a little bit). I was happy with it, and could return, but I did not session here as I was too drained from Redway earlier in the afternoon.

There are some other locations described in the forum that some members seem to be fine with some, but are way out of my price range or have inconsistent or bad reputations (according to some reports in the forum of course). So to simplify the mongering selection options, I eliminated the following from my personal destination list:

Avoid: Bahamas (price) , Bomboa (price) , Bon Vivant (price) , Blue Night (lack of quality) , Café Photo (price) , Carribbean (rip-off) , Connections (distance) , Donna (too late) , Emmanuelle (rip-off) , Gauguin (price) , Love Story (noise) , Palms (price) , Romanza (rip-off) , Tieta (quality) , WE (price).

Kilt seemed to be a interesting place go go, but was closed during my second to last trip. (It is similar to Casarao). However, when I was in Sampa, I read an article in a magazine that it had reopened.

Best of luck in Sao Paulo. It is an enormous city with nearly unlimited affordable mongering options. I hope this post helps, if any information is incorrect, please feel free to correct. Special thanks to ABG who gave me a lot of insights, thanks man. Obrigado

[Sui Generis]

What is unclear to me is who are say the top five ladies? I understand person taste can determine that but I also find that usually three girls appear on everyones list consistently. I also would like to understand if there is a big difference between seeing one of the ladies at Redway or Red Massage and pay $130. $175 VS pay a bit more like $225. $300 with a private girl?

Also, I see several hotties listed as working in Santos. Will they travel up to Sao Paolo and are they worth it?

Also where is Litoral Paulista? Is that a barrio of SP?

Thanks.

Quick answer:

The top five ladies? I don't believe in this kind of marketing pitch anymore. Expect to pay more if they know that they are among the top five. At the end it doesn't Worth it. You'll learn that's not the garota at the top that are the best but those who are beginners and want to have customers. The more they stay in this business the less they are « natural ».

I used to believed. Until very recently that there were a difference between Redway and Red Massagem. I used to go often to RedMassagem because it was located in my own turf: Moema. The only reason I would go back there is for a dupla. Now that I'm located in Liberdade it is easier to go to Redway (or Vani's Way) and believe me I was there tonight and the garotas were simply exceptionnal, out of this world. In this hobbying it is not only the look that counts but also the attitude, the way to please men and the garotas I saw tonight could write a book about this art.

The good thing with privê garotas it is that you can INTERVIEW them before going out. You'll already have a hint if she is for you or not. You cannot do this in a clinica and with a free-lance garota: it's like playing dice, you can easily win or loose. Simple as that.

Santos? What the heck? Some of them travel the distance. I think in particular of Deyse Loira. I cannot say more.

Litoral paulista: it is the sea shore located at approximately 60km of São Paulo.

[Il Duca]

Towards mid-July I will arrive in Sao Paolo for a seven week work assignment. I will have a lot of free time on my hands and looking to meet several ladies while I am there. Usually I like to start out strong and see six to eight ladies in the first two weeks and then settle in to seeing the same two for the balance of my time. I understand that there is be a crop of new ladies nearly weekly but many have been around for a while and have good reputations. What is unclear to me is who are say the top five ladies? I understand person taste can determine that but I also find that usually three girls appear on everyones list consistently. I also would like to understand if there is a big difference between seeing one of the ladies at Redway or Red Massage and pay $130. $175 VS pay a bit more like $225. $300 with a private girl?

Also, I see several hotties listed as working in Santos. Will they travel up to Sao Paolo and are they worth it?

Also where is Litoral Paulista? Is that a barrio of SP?

Any and all help and advice is welcomed and appreciated as it has been some 15 years since I was last in Sao Paolo.

Thanks.

[Ricker]

Many thanks for your kind words SG.

Yo've done al the report work, I went Td with Nina, the small mulata, I've posted her " performace" on a previous TD.

As was told yesterday, we are organising a churrasco at Redway tomorrow, If someone from the ISG wants to participate, please contact me by PM.

We espect to have 20 to 25 GDPs at this churrasco! Starts 4 PM!

Just by luck, I'll be in SP amanha (tomorrow)!

A little nap, and I should make the churrasco.

Obrigado ABG. 👍👍

[AltoBomGosto]

I hardly have time to write my reports.

I have so many things (professional and personal) to do and people to visit that I'm late in my reports.

Yesterday there was a problem of communication between me and ABG. I thought that we were supposed to meet at Vani's Way at 4, hPM. I took the metro at São Joaquim up to Santos / Imigrantes. I walked the distance on Ricardo Jaffet between the metro station and Vani's Way: a 15 to 20 minutes walk. This is one of my resolution this year: to walk long distance instead of taking taxis. I realized how we are slave of our automobile in our daily life. As I have few extra pounds to loose (maybe 15lbs) this is prtobably the best way to loose them.

When I arrived at Vani's Way there were already a couple of garotas on duty: the lovely Juliana (she's kind of cute but unfortunately she's not my type: she's got a belly pot) , Anny, Yume (the mestiça) , Nina (ABG's little doll) , Monique and Manú.

Julia told me that ABG was on the phone and expecting me at Redway's! He said that he was going down to Vani's Way to meet me.

I went with Manú because she looks like a real safada. Very slim, small tits but a beautifull bunda. Her body his covered with tattoes and percing and I like that « badgirl look »

I had fun with her in the room: very receptive and she gave a real PSE service (plus CIM).

The funny part of the session was when she realized that a part of her clit piercing was gone! We looked everywhere in the room and couldn't find it! As a joke she said that maybee I swallowed it during the DATY (by the way she have beautifull pussy lips and the contrast between the pink of her wet * and the bronze of her skin was very exciting). Natural lubrification.

After that I went with ABG to Redway's. Mein Gott! The house was packed with new beauties. I almost went crazy. I was very happy to meet old friend like MVBILL and Bettinho. I was greeted by Vani's.

Later ABG, BEttinho and me went to eat a pizza in Higienopolis. It was anice evening. Many thanks to ABG for his hospitality. He's the man!

Many thanks for your kind words SG.

Yo've done al the report work, I went Td with Nina, the small mulata, I've posted her " performace" on a previous TD.

As was told yesterday, we are organising a churrasco at Redway tomorrow, If someone from the ISG wants to participate, please contact me by PM.

We espect to have 20 to 25 GDPs at this churrasco! Starts 4 PM!

[Sui Generis]

I hardly have time to write my reports.

I have so many things (professional and personal) to do and people to visit that I'm late in my reports.

Yesterday there was a problem of communication between me and ABG. I thought that we were supposed to meet at Vani's Way at 4, hPM. I took the metro at São Joaquim up to Santos / Imigrantes. I walked the distance on Ricardo Jaffet between the metro station and Vani's Way: a 15 to 20 minutes walk. This is one of my resolution this year: to walk long distance instead of taking taxis. I realized how we are slave of our automobile in our daily life. As I have few extra pounds to loose (maybe 15lbs) this is prtobably the best way to loose them.

When I arrived at Vani's Way there were already a couple of garotas on duty: the lovely Juliana (she's kind of cute but unfortunately she's not my type: she's got a belly pot) , Anny, Yume (the mestiça) , Nina (ABG's little doll) , Monique and Manú.

Julia told me that ABG was on the phone and expecting me at Redway's! He said that he was going down to Vani's Way to meet me.

I went with Manú because she looks like a real safada. Very slim, small tits but a beautifull bunda. Her body his covered with tattoes and percing and I like that « badgirl look »

I had fun with her in the room: very receptive and she gave a real PSE service (plus CIM).

The funny part of the session was when she realized that a part of her clit piercing was gone! We looked everywhere in the room and couldn't find it! As a joke she said that maybee I swallowed it during the DATY (by the way she have beautifull pussy lips and the contrast between the pink of her wet **** and the bronze of her skin was very exciting). Natural lubrification.

After that I went with ABG to Redway's. Mein Gott! The house was packed with new beauties. I almost went crazy. I was very happy to meet old friend like MVBILL and Bettinho. I was greeted by Vani's.

Later ABG, BEttinho and me went to eat a pizza in Higienopolis. It was anice evening. Many thanks to ABG for his hospitality. He's the man!

[AltoBomGosto]

At this moment I received a call from Alice, she and Juliana are on the premises now!

Did any ISG member go to RW today afternoon?

[AltoBomGosto]

Have a look here.

http://www.gpmovel.com.br/

, only for those knowing Portuguese

Beware, this is an advertising site and not a forum!

[BionicMan]

I don't do anyhting strange, just writing url and website appears.

Browsing inside sections or pages doesn't pose any difficulty either.

This happens wherever I am, Brazil or abroad.

Since I enter that website I changed 3 laptops, or maybe 4, and I always had full access.

I recall from time to time forum members report this situation, which fortunately I never experienced.

Maybe I am just lucky.

It is true, sometime GP Guia doesn't work from abroad and looks like one is sort of banned. But then a day later it works normally. But have something to do with IP's or some thing like that.

[Albert Punter]

Have a look here http://www.gpmovel.com.br/, only for those knowing Portuguese

[Albert Punter]

I don't do anyhting strange, just writing url and website appears.
Browsing inside sections or pages doesn't pose any difficulty either.

This happens wherever I am, Brazil or abroad.

Since I enter that website I changed 3 laptops, or maybe 4, and I always had full access.
I recall from time to time forum members report this situation, which fortunately I never experienced.

Maybe I am just lucky.

Please tell us how do you do it.

[AltoBomGosto]

At this moment I received a call from Alice, she and Juliana are on the premises now!

[Torgoch]

There is another good forum here :

www.forumsd.com.br

Good source of information for garotas "free"

There is also www.forumx.com.br As well (mainly covers Rio)