Sao Paulo Reports

[WyattEarp]

I have spent a ton of time in Pattaya. Comparing the whole of Pattaya to Scandallo does a huge disservice to Sao Paulo, the scene there is massive. Its one club in a city full of world class options. Scandallo is like Insomnia, the largest freelancer club.

The quality of the women in Brazil smokes Thailand, its not close. Then when you consider performance, its an even bigger gap. There are some beautiful Thai women, but on average its a different league in Brazil.

Price wise, Scandallo is on the top end and not cheap but the quality is insane. Not just the women, everything about that club is world class. Nothing in Pattaya would match it, and while the high end gentlemen's clubs in Bangkok would push places like Bomboa there is nothing like Scandallo there either. Price wise in BKK these clubs will set you back the same though, easily. Same goes for Thailand as a whole, the cost of sex is not much lower than Brazil anymore and I would say its actually on par.

Don't get me wrong, I have had an amazing time in Pattaya over the years and will still visit. Its great for golf, the hotel options are amazing, a lot of good restaurants, and the best thing about is that everything is concentrated in a few walkable areas, so I can understand the appeal of that compared to Sao Paulo and even Rio. But unless you want to spend all day drinking, it gets old quickly. 4-5 days is plenty in that place, and to be honest its a bit of a dump.

Bangkok and Pattaya always seemed like Sexual Disneyland to me. A Western male kind of goes there for one reason. That's not a criticism. That's just an observation.

I think some members like just posting up in one location and having everything in one place. Perhaps they also wanted a beach. Before the Help Disco in Rio was closed, Copacabana offered all that.

We're kind of trying to compare a lot of different variables. The aesthetic of Asian beauty versus the more diverse Brazilian looks with some strong Latin and Black influences. Then you have to ask do you want a beach and outdoor activities.

Don't get me wrong. Sao Paulo is a world-class city and draws many of the hottest women from all over Brazil.

[Knowledge]

Holy crap, 10 days is much more than I imagined. Somebody could really be stitched up over that. Information is power.

Thanks gents, yes agreed (readers should plan carefully) - to clarify my pie-in-the-sky plans. Would be to visit some "friends" in Bogota (I'm here for the coffee ha) on the way down. On the way back, there's a day time connecting flight via Bog (3 HR layover) which doesn't require YF that I took this trip.

From Avianca (exceptions): "Passengers with a connecting flight or cruise who are not leaving the terminal. The stay in the country must be less than 24 hours. ".

I was surmising that YF worry seems overkill, but I do eventually want to visit some other remote beaches, etc. When I saw the Brazil 2018/2019 YF campaign: 88% male cases, 23% fatality, median age in the 40's, mainly rural workers. Ouch, no joke..

[Nounce]

That's right man. That's how you do it. Especially when you run out of reais. ....

I did it last time last year but it's after I just landed. The girl showed up before I had a chance to get enough cash. I had everything with me at that moment so I didn't want the girl around. I paid her in USD which is more than twice I usually paid her because I know her rent was due the next day. This girl did not contact me again for a week before her money ran out. LOL.

[Nounce]

Do you need to fill out Checkmig form when you just transit trough Colombia?

If you will go thru immigration in Colombia, then you will need it. If you are flying Avianca, they may do it for you. I flied Avianca, for some reason, I wasn't asked for checkmig or YF certificate.

[Wayne Roberts]

SocratesNY, Thank you once again for an excellent summary of Scandallo. My tastes in women are almost identical to yours, although tall is less of a factor. It was because of your earlier reports, I flew from Canada to Sao Paulo to check out Scandallo for myself. It was not cheap, but it was certainly worth it. I took five girls to my hotel room. One of the girls I had an amazing connection and sex with, and spent two full days with her. Thank you again for all you have been saying about Scandallo.

That having been said, if I could only choose to go to either Pattaya or Sao Paulo, I would choose Pattaya. It is easier to connect with a Scandallo girl since the language and culture is closer to what we are used to. And as you say, the club is class, and quantity and variety of girls is superb. But Walking Street Pattaya has many more girls. In the new club XS, there are 100 girls alone. There are probably over 500 girls dancing in the Walking Street gogos on any given night when taken together..

I have spent a ton of time in Pattaya. Comparing the whole of Pattaya to Scandallo does a huge disservice to Sao Paulo, the scene there is massive. Its one club in a city full of world class options. Scandallo is like Insomnia, the largest freelancer club.

The quality of the women in Brazil smokes Thailand, its not close. Then when you consider performance, its an even bigger gap. There are some beautiful Thai women, but on average its a different league in Brazil.

Price wise, Scandallo is on the top end and not cheap but the quality is insane. Not just the women, everything about that club is world class. Nothing in Pattaya would match it, and while the high end gentlemen's clubs in Bangkok would push places like Bomboa there is nothing like Scandallo there either. Price wise in BKK these clubs will set you back the same though, easily. Same goes for Thailand as a whole, the cost of sex is not much lower than Brazil anymore and I would say its actually on par.

Don't get me wrong, I have had an amazing time in Pattaya over the years and will still visit. Its great for golf, the hotel options are amazing, a lot of good restaurants, and the best thing about is that everything is concentrated in a few walkable areas, so I can understand the appeal of that compared to Sao Paulo and even Rio. But unless you want to spend all day drinking, it gets old quickly. 4-5 days is plenty in that place, and to be honest its a bit of a dump.

[BigButtDetecto]

Be careful about connecting via Colombia or Panama. You have to get a yellow fever vaccine at least 72 hours before you enter either country directly from Brazil. 60 or older are exempt.

Do you need to fill out Checkmig form when you just transit trough Colombia?

[SocratesNY]

I was at Gaugin Club yesterday. It was about 15 minute walk to the hotel so I figured to check it out. I walked in around 10 Pm and it was dead, looks like they are renovating as with the floor and surrounding a bit dirty. There were total about 7 girls with 4 already talking to customer and they weren't that great looking. I had this 32 yo white blonde from Minas Gerais came over and talked to me and since it was slow, I figured to talk to her and get more info. R180 for entry with R100 consumable, R100 for the room and the only option for girl is 1 hour. She quoted me R800 for her, but these are freelance so you can negotiate, she just doesn't do it for me with any amount so I aske for her number and said we'll meet outside. There is a menu for drinks, r35 for beer, r50 red label walker. I drank my consumable and then paid the r180 and left for Casarao. I stayed until about 12 am and about 4 more girls strolled in by then, nothing great. The girl I talked to said it's best to come Tuesday through Thursday, I guess Friday is bad and it is also National holiday.

Sad to hear it was a dud. Was contemplating checking it out on my next visit.

Thanks for the report.

[Pipe Layer99]

Sounds almost like a trolling posrlt, but I will reply as if it was not.
I keep crisp new notes for FX exchange. They often reject those with any deformities or are old.
..But on a few occasions I had agreed to paying a girl R1,000 for an 12 HR overnight and I didn't have enough BRL on so offered to either go to ATM in the morning or give her $200 USD (exchange rate was 5. 15) and they all chose the USD for the convenience. I lost R30 in exchange.

That's right man. That's how you do it. Especially when you run out of reais. I did it in both SP and Rio and even in Thailand. About 10 years ago in Rio, it was my last full day. I went out walking around, stopped at a lunch place near the beach for a beer. Saw a good looking lady and called out to her. We talked and since I didn't have a hotel room, we went to that short time hotel that was back near Miguel Lemos and NS Copa. Got to the room and she wanted money up front. Of course I told her I pay after. I showed her the hundred dollar bill and said she can have it after we finish. She was a little skeptical but I showed her the exchange rate. Win Win. The EX rate was about 2. 2 to 1 back then. Man, let me tell you. She gave the best performance. Great sex with mirrors everywhere. After the first session, we talk and laugh and touch, then on to round two when I was ready. She did it again. That was one of THE BEST sessions ever.

[SocratesNY]

You keep crisp euro and dollar bank notes in 100 denomination to give to girls if you run out of reales?

Sounds almost like a trolling posrlt, but I will reply as if it was not.

I keep crisp new notes for FX exchange. They often reject those with any deformities or are old.

I also carry 50's, 20's, 10's, 5's even 2 dollar bills. I am a walking ATM.

But on a few occasions I had agreed to paying a girl R1,000 for an 12 HR overnight and I didn't have enough BRL on so offered to either go to ATM in the morning or give her $200 USD (exchange rate was 5. 15) and they all chose the USD for the convenience. I lost R30 in exchange.

[CanadaWet]

SocratesNY, Thank you once again for an excellent summary of Scandallo. My tastes in women are almost identical to yours, although tall is less of a factor. It was because of your earlier reports, I flew from Canada to Sao Paulo to check out Scandallo for myself. It was not cheap, but it was certainly worth it. I took five girls to my hotel room. One of the girls I had an amazing connection and sex with, and spent two full days with her. Thank you again for all you have been saying about Scandallo.

That having been said, if I could only choose to go to either Pattaya or Sao Paulo, I would choose Pattaya. It is easier to connect with a Scandallo girl since the language and culture is closer to what we are used to. And as you say, the club is class, and quantity and variety of girls is superb. But Walking Street Pattaya has many more girls. In the new club XS, there are 100 girls alone. There are probably over 500 girls dancing in the Walking Street gogos on any given night when taken together. The gogos have different styles too. Some are smaller and very hands on (Windmill, Dollhouse), and some are bigger and more restrained. But for me the main thing Pattaya has over Sao Paulo is that it is so safe. You can walk around anywhere in Pattaya at any time of night and not have to worry about anything. Pattaya also has great international food as well as delicious Thai food. There are also more things to do in Pattaya besides mongering, and it is easy to get around. It is a much more relaxing destination on the whole.

Going forward, I'll be visiting both Pattaya and Scandallo.

From my last 3-4 trips, I've been at Scandallo every day they were open. From my observations, I would guess the normal number of girls in attendance would be approximately.

Note: (NA = wasn't there during that time):

Monday: before 6 pm 20-40,6 to 10 pm 50-80, after 10 pm NA.

Tuesday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Wednesday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+ (250+ on special live musical guest nights).

Thursday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+.

Friday: before 6 pm 30-50,6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Saturday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 60-100, after 10 pm 125+..

[Knowledge]

You keep crisp euro and dollar bank notes in 100 denomination to give to girls if you run out of reales?

I've read quite a few recent posts regarding BMs having logistical issues in Sao Paulo so I figure I'the chime in and offer some guidance.

Debit Cards / ATMs:

The following involves my experience with big US financial institutions (Chase, Citi, TD and Schwab), so YMMV for other countries. Although friends with Western European bank accounts haven't had any issues either.

I've come to rely mostly on Bradesco and Santander ATMs INSIDE bank branches in Sao Paulo. I usually go to them in big or high-end shopping malls when possible. I've not encountered the poor ATM FX conversion rate of 2. 5% to 11% deficit that some have alluded to. It was always within less than 1% of the interbank currency rate. However, what rate you get depends on your HOME bank, not Santander or Bradesco. They do charge a R20 surcharge / ATM fee, but my banks refund them anyway. They usually have a higher withdrawal limit between R2,000 to R3,000, depending on branch location..

[SocratesNY]

From my last 3-4 trips, I've been at Scandallo every day they were open. From my observations, I would guess the normal number of girls in attendance would be approximately.

Note: (NA = wasn't there during that time):

Monday: before 6 pm 20-40,6 to 10 pm 50-80, after 10 pm NA.

Tuesday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Wednesday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+ (250+ on special live musical guest nights).

Thursday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+.

Friday: before 6 pm 30-50,6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Saturday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 60-100, after 10 pm 125+.

Often times they have special life musical guests (Usually on Wednesdays), usually popular local Brazilian bands or international DJs. On those nights, admission / consumption can be higher and the total can be up to R800! They also charge a R500 fee to get a table in the "disco" area where the band plays. On those special nights, I've seen 250+ girls and tons of guys. Taking a girl up to the room or taking a girl for a "saida" out of the club can result in 10-15 minutes wait on line at the hotel / saida cashier!

As beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the following is just MY PERSONAL OPINION. I generally agree with the Western and East Asian standard of beauty. I like the type of girls you generally see in Vogue, Victoria's Secrets, old SI Swimsuit Issues before they became "inclusive" or girls on high fashion billboards for LV, Hermes, Gucci and the like.

Therefore, my tastes lean toward the tall, skinny, girls with a flat stomach (doesn't need a 6 pack), long shapely legs, beautiful face, eye and smile. I am not a breast man, but prefer a nice be-see cup and don't need a big bunda, but like at least a firm bubble butt that fits their frame.

Even though I prefer tall girls, I also like a petite spinner sometimes. I also like curvy girls occasionally, as long as they have a hour glass figure with thin waist and their dimensions are proportional. I also usually prefer younger women age 29 and under.

My taste is a bit wide-ranging. It can go from a runway model to a more busty VS Vixen to a SI Swimsuit cover model to a K-pop / Asian movie star to a Telenovela actress. I also like girls of all races, hair and eye coloring, as long as they fit the above. It just depends on my mood and also our chemistry when I chat them up.

I DO NOT like muffin tops, thick thighs or cellulite around the ass / thighs. Slutty, US Porn Star look, with fake lips, tits and ass also does not really interest me.

Based on my preferences, I feel on a pure OPTICS level, I think Scandallo beats all the options in.

1) Brazil (all other venues in Sao Paulo and everything in Rio de Janeiro).

2) Western European FKKs (Globe / Aphrodisia in Zurich, Sharks / Oase in Frankfurt, Goldentime, Living Room, Oceans and Samya in NWR).

3) Madrid clubs (Vive and Pigmallion).

4) Tijuana (HK Club).

5) Thailand (The Pimp in Bangkok, clubs on / near Soi 11 like Insanity, gogos in Nana / Cowboy and Walking Street gogos in Pattaya).

6) Jakarta (both Malio Hotel and Maliboro Club, Classic, King's Castle, and CJ's).

7) Hong Kong (Wan Chai FL clubs and strip clubs).

I've been to all of those other venues within the last 3-4 years, often multiple times. The QUANITY, QUALITY and VARIETY, in terms of height, shape, size (I've also seen a few "little people" at Scandallo), ethnicity, and looks (innocent, cute, model pretty, slutty, sensual, etc.), in Scandallo is unrivalled.

On any given night, you can find a hot girl with Caucasian, Irish / Scottish, Germanic, Latina, Western European, Eastern European, Slavik, Asian, Mulatto, and Black Features.

On a "classy" level, I also feel Scandallo wins out. You are more likely to find professional working models, artists, professionals, graduate students, higher-end sugar babies, etc. At Scandallo than those other venues. The club is also very posh and upscale, with a large selection of top shelf liquor and a nice restaurant offering varied cuisine, as well as a good sushi bar.

I understand some of the above venues are different in terms of setup, but at the end of the day, they all have a few things in common that I find useful and important:

1) You see the girls in the person (and in some of the other venues, totally in the flesh!

2) You have the option of buying them a drink and chatting them up and vet them.

3) It's basically a point and shoot situation, as few will turn you down outright, but a few still might do so.

Some might find it more challenging to go to Brazil. Some might prefer a cheaper venue. Some might prefer a venue that has a higher percentage of darker skinned girls. Some might prefer a venue with mostly "trashier / sluttier" girls (although plenty of those in Scandallo too! Some might prefer a venue where negotiating on the "gift / donation" for the girl is less of an issue. Some might prefer a venue where more girls speak English, German, etc.

Not everyone will agree with my sentiments and that's okay. Different strokes for different folks.

For me, Scandallo is the best one stop shopping for hot P4 P action, especially if you have the funds to spend and it isn't logistically too challenging for you to get there compared to the other options.

[SocratesNY]

I've read quite a few recent posts regarding BMs having logistical issues in Sao Paulo so I figure I'the chime in and offer some guidance.

Debit Cards / ATMs:

The following involves my experience with big US financial institutions (Chase, Citi, TD and Schwab), so YMMV for other countries. Although friends with Western European bank accounts haven't had any issues either.

I've come to rely mostly on Bradesco and Santander ATMs INSIDE bank branches in Sao Paulo. I usually go to them in big or high-end shopping malls when possible. I've not encountered the poor ATM FX conversion rate of 2. 5% to 11% deficit that some have alluded to. It was always within less than 1% of the interbank currency rate. However, what rate you get depends on your HOME bank, not Santander or Bradesco. They do charge a R20 surcharge / ATM fee, but my banks refund them anyway. They usually have a higher withdrawal limit between R2,000 to R3,000, depending on branch location.

For other "combo" ATMs that you might find in the airport, hotel, gas station, etc. , I've seen a big range for ATM fees. Some charge a small ATM fee of R20, while others charge a PERCENTAGE of the withdrawal amount. All the way of up to 12.5% Thankfully, my banks have also refunded those ATM fee based on percentage of withdrawal. The highest one I've encountered was at the Grand Hyatt of $65 USD.

Make sure you DECLINE the currency conversion option. Sometimes the ATM would get "tricky" and ask if you want to really DECLINE the conversion and word it in such a way that you might say no. And accidentally ACCEPT the conversion. I've had it happen to a few friends. The conversion rate can be brutal and up to 15% less than the interbank currency rate. These ATMs also tend to have smaller withal limit between R500 to R1,500. I've seen a few that have a high ATM fee based on a PERCENT of withdrawal AND a high CONVERSION fee.

Finally, make sure your bank or account doesn't charge an international transaction fee. High end bank accounts usually do not. But TD and Schwab are the best at this as they don't require a high balance to refund all ATM fees, without any limit and don't charge an international transaction fee.

Credit Cards and Cash:

I've had very little issues with credit card usage in Sao Paulo. Unless the venue charged a CC fee (really only encountered that at termas, clinicas and some boates. Bamboa comes to mind!) Thankfully, Scandallo does not charge an CC fee for the club admission / consumption or the hotel and saida fee. They do charge a CC fee if you charge the girl's "gift / donation" So far I've not had any fraudulent charges on any of my 6-7 CCs I've used in Brazil (knock on wood).

It's also helpful to carry multiple credit cards, as some credit cards (Chase and Citi) have very sensitive fraud algorithms and might only work for a few days before they block all usage for Uber. Even if you tell them those charges are valid, the card stays blocked for Uber in Brazil for a few days. I've also encountered a few restaurants where the international card payment service they use sucks. I've had to pay cash after 3-4 different credit cards got declined. All different types (Visa, MC, Amex, etc.).

I also bring some emergency cash in crisp $100 USD and $100/$200 Euro notes with me. It's nice to have it around in case you don't have enough BRL and can give the girl USD / EURO, but you usually have to offer them a good exchange rate for their inconvenience or FX fee. You can also exchange cash at many local FX places in the city and get a very competitive rates (similar to Mexico, other Latin American countries and Asia). I've used a few near Av. Paulista and in big / high-end shopping malls.

It's also useful to carry a copy of your passport, whether it's photocopy or photo on your phone. I always keep my passport locked in my hotel safe.

Cellular Data:

On most of my earlier trips, I used my US carrier's international day pass. Obviously, it's expensive (usually $10 USD per day) so it's not a great option for longer visits. If you are only in town for only a few days or only use it for 1 day until you go to a store to get a local sim, it is an okay option.

I've also starting using Google Fi during trips the last year and half in Sao Paulo and it works pretty well. Coverage is usually via Vivo and I've not had too much coverage blind spots in Sao Paulo. Another neat feature about Google Fi is the ability to have multiple "data only" sims on one plan / line without extra charge. You can carry those data only sims for backup. Or you can use a data only sim on a cheap backup / hobby phone and not worry about losing your main phone.

AT&T also recently added almost all the Latin American countries as part of the higher end unlimited plans so you can use your plan's talk, text and high-speed data for free now in Brazil.

I hear T-Mobile's high end unlimited plans also comes with some international data, but I don't use T-Mobile so you have to research that yourself.

I can't comment on CPF or local physical SIM or eSIM as I've never bothered with them, but the effort sounds annoying. However, if you are in country for more than a week or two, that route is probably worth the trouble.

Speaking of eSIM, if you have that feature on your phone, it's highly recommended that you install / use an eSIM from your main local cellular provider. I've had friends who either lost their phone or had it stolen and they were able to easily get a replacement phone and install their eSIM and be quickly back up and running. It also is nice to be able to put in another physical sim (local, Google Fi, etc.) and swap between the two.

I've rarely relied on airport WIFI, but do often use hotel WIFI. I suggest you use a VPN when using any WIFI. NordVPN works great and I highly recommend them. Google FI also comes with a VPN installed.

Transportation:

I use Uber almost exclusively, but sometimes taxis are a competitive alternative if have a taxi in front of you and don't want to wait. Most taxis take CCs.

I use Uber black 75-80% of the time, as it's usually not much more than UberX. It can save you a ton of time, as UberX can take 10-20 minutes longer due to constant cancellations. I've even seen Uber Black be CHEAPER than UberX about 5-10% of the time. But usually, Uber Black is just a 10-20% markup when compared to UberX and I rather have my 10-20 min back!

If you aren't going too far, METERED taxi (which is 95% of the ones I've encountered) are competitive in pricing vs. Uber. I've taken taxis many times when I don't want to wait for an Uber, usually to / from Scandallo to restaurants / hotel in the Jardins, Itam Bibi, Pinhieros and Murumbi areas and the cost were the same or less than Uber.

Taxis also have the option of going on some "taxi only lanes", which can cut down on travel time, especially around Av. Paulista, which is great for avoiding traffic.

I've taken a heli-taxi one time from airport to my hotel and it was crazy expensive. You would think with so many freaking helicopters in Sao Paulo, there would be a market for cheaper helicopter taxi services. Thankfully, that ride wasn't on my own dime. You also have passenger and luggage weight restrictions if you go that route.

GF Hotel:

99% of hotels in Sao Paulo are girl friendly.

If you intend to host a girl at your hotel, book your room for 2 adult guests. Brazilian hotels often charge a lower rate due to occupancy. You can save R30-50 when booking for 1 guest vs. 2 guests. But then they will charge you a R100 to R150 "guest fee".

Some hotel night reception will still try to charge you a "guest fee" when you bring a girl back after 9/10 pm. Even if your reservation is for 2 or more guests. They either try to swindle your as they mark you for a monger or just presume you booked for 1 guest. The few times I've had this happen, I pushed back politely that my reservation is for 2 or more guests, they have apologized and relented and just made me register the girl (s) as my 2nd or 3rd guest.

[Fewdie]

I was able to register a TIM chip bought from those huts through the phone without going to the store so I don't see why esim is not able to.

Brazil does have eSim, but can you point me to an online Vivo website that I can purchase to activate when landing? Tells you to go to a store. 3rd party eSims (like Airolo) are for people to avoid wasting time getting going right away and then can get local chips / esims when convenient.

Have you been to Euphoria? There are no closets. Funny fact, we couldn't even get a bottle opener (gamer girl called the desk). We ordered a blanket and they gave us a sheet.

F.

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[Kute Guy]

First trip to Brazil/Sao Paulo and I really enjoyed my time there. TLDR: Thanks to everyone for their reports and helpful PMs.

I didn't think I'd need to rehash some of these details, but literally a few posts down, some BMs were struggling with some practical issues. Here's how I approached them:

RTFF, I read about 100 pages of SP & Rio and the Reports of Distinction. If you have questions, probably have better ones if you sort of get what the different places are about and different BM's styles of the hobby. I wanted to get a broad view of the scene as I was solo for this one.

CPF: Took 2 business days to get it. Free and online, no reason not to get as Brazil is notorious for the difficulty in getting a SIM "chip" card w / o a CPF. No tax implications unless you become a resident or overstay (verify this info for yourself).

Flight: coming overnight from the great white north is definitely not my preference, but I wanted to not waste time and flew direct (but likely will fly daytime connections via Colombia layovers in the future).

Airport Wifi / ATMs: Free GRU wifi for Uber (I used eSim as below), but have to watch a 20 second ad. Didn't grab cash, but lots of combo 24 HR machines (probably with high fees). Had backup USD cash on hand for emergencies (make sure crisp and clean otherwise cambios won't deal).

Hotel: Mercure SP Ibirapuera Privilege. Definitely in the flight path and noisy, but didn't bother me after a few days, although would probably stay out of "the path" (as Bearsi posted), in the future. GF friendly as far as I could tell (they mention a guest fee of approx 100 BRL, but I was able to bring a lady over directly to the elevator a few times, but she didn't stay overnight), I didn't like the included breakfast. Thanks to SocratesNY for setting me straight on the GF priority (I had initially booked a nice place but wasn't GF friendly, which is rare in SP). Decent Wifi and clean. Used self-serve laundry.

Cash / ATMs / Credit Cards: walked over to the Bradesco or Santander and they didn't give a conversion option (maybe a CAD thing), but the exchange rate was consistently 2. 5% lower than market rate. I got charged the classic 1 time fee (20 BRL) as I do anywhere that's not my bank brand. Took out 2000/2500 BRL at a time. One surprise was that 2 of my 3 CCs generally did not work anywhere. That's probably the biggest gotcha (I didn't carry all my CCs at once and the banks / CC insisted no issues with card). I always tried to have 2000 BRL cash on hand to mitigate.

Sim: Vivo from the mall (3. 50 BRL+plan), they were really friendly even though I don't speak Porto. But definitely give yourself time as set up takes forever (and for some reason they couldn't figure out long distance) and their system went down, so I had to return the next day. Apparently this plan doesn't expire. Pay as you go.

ESim: I use Airolo (a bit expensive) for first time country visits to avoid dealing with lack of data. Backup is roaming with my telecom provider. Google FI doesn't work in CAD unfortunately (some border town folks have gotten it to work). I generally set esim on iPhone to low data mode and never really have issues.

Uber: From GRU airport to Moema, approx 75 min at noon time to Mercure Moema Privilege (30 min in the middle of the night). Only used Uber throughout the trip, pretty inexpensive, but as many have mentioned, sometimes takes a while for UberX. Use Black if in a rush.

Sao Paulo. I really liked the vibe, I guess I'm a big city kinda guy. Never felt any sort of danger, but didn't walk around late at night on my own. I enjoyed the park, all the great coffee shops and restaurants. Locals were really friendly even for my non-Porto. I always had my canned Portuguese lines and Gtranslate ready and this was never an issue.

Wingman:

I met up with WonderWhy a couple of times during the trip and I was joking that I'm not really a checklist guy, but I did try a little bit of everything (other than PA / Online GPS). Good guy to chill with and share stories.

Girls:

After going to Vivo, I started the trip at Clinica Prime (av Irai, 511). So not really having met too many Brazilian women before, I wasn't sure what to expect, as so many have mentioned the famous bunda. Like Axel mentioned also recently, I really like the ladies on the taller side and slim / natural. I wasn't disappointed, ha. Fernanda was at the desk and went over everything, and called for a presentation. There were a few other guys in and out of the lobby, so didn't feel rushed at all. There were at least 3 spinner types that I liked, but ended up going with Agatha (so hard to remember the other many names on little sleep). Guessing 5'5"/115 lbs brunette morena clara with some gravity defying "be" to "see" cups. Pretty good session, soft lips for kissing, DATY / BJ and generally pretty chill. 1 HR, 250 BRL. Clinica, check. Also could have gone with Gabriela, curly hair brunette, pretty and good service according to gp-guia (didn't do extensive research beforehand there).

Next day was checking out some sites / food and messaged WW and he happened to be staying nearby. We grabbed a drink and he took me to Tangara. Was a Saturday afternoon and it was packed, so many guys. Ended up not sessioning and WW had to meet his overnight.

Napped and around midnight headed to Casarao (R Augusta, 791). Grabbed my bar tab card (50 BRL entry) and walked around. To be honest, I haven't been in a night club environment in a long time. It was too loud in the dance floor area, but the back hall / lounge and downstairs smoking / bar / booths were more my speed. Probably 80-100 girls and lots of guys. It got pretty packed, so I just hung out on the corner just before the back lounge area to watch girls move around for a while to get a good look. Had a few girls approach, but the ladies were not aggressive. Overall I probably saw 5 girls that I was interested in that night. One pretty morena (in a spangly gymnasty outfit) only did CBJ for 500 BRL, another would only stay 3 hrs for 1000 BRL and not overnight, one tiny branca was pursued before I could get to talk to her (but didn't see her again). There was a bubbly tall moreno with big hair and energy, but she didn't really seem into me, so didn't really pursue (also has bigger T&A than I usually like).

Around 2:30 am landed on Gaby, a super slim morena from Rio (said she comes every so often for the last 2 years). She was dancing with a friend and could definitely move her hips. Had to grab her dancing and after we met, she went straight to the bar for a drink (red flag? Danced / hugged for a while with her butt up against me for quite a while with our drinks. Eventually went downstairs to talk. She wanted 600 BRL per HR (and wouldn't do overnight), ended up countering and went for 500 BRL. Now for the waiting: time lining up to exit (about 30 minutes, ended up with a 200 BRL tab), and then next door another 45 minutes of her sitting on my lap in the hotel lobby waiting for the room (50 BRL? As an aside, she was definitely more conservative than other girls (in dress and demeanor). For instance, in one of the booths downstairs, a guy with bottles literally had a girls boobs out and was massaging them pretty aggressively. In the hotel lobby, one of the girls was basically naked coming down the stairs and probably drunk / high and fell into the couple beside us. When we got to the room, cleaned up and finally time for action. She was potentially the smallest lady I have ever been with. 5'2", maybe 80-85 lbs, "be" cups, pretty smile with a nice cushy bum. I started with a massage (or rather continued as we were body to body for almost 1. 5 hrs already). Not ultra passionate, but definitely more of a massage girl experience in terms of movement (if that makes sense). Good DATY / BJ. Once she got on top, it was an amazing view and she turned on the sultry. Good session, no rush. Got back to the hotel at approx 6:30 am and I was pretty exhausted. Boate, check. It was pretty wild on the streets at 6am, but wasn't dangerous per se. Just a lot of drunken party people. I did accidentally get in the wrong Uber, luckily didn't get in a fight with the other guy ha.

Woke up super late and checked out Ibirapuera park. Some nice eye candy going on runs or other activities. There was an event going on and I couldn't get an Uber until I walked about 20 min away. Crazy traffic. Met up again with WW again at Clinica Yankin (R. Dr. Jos de Queirs Aranha, 148). This place isn't mentioned too much, but I would describe it as split into 2 halves: When you ring in, the left room is a longer room with the "reception" and a whole bunch of couches to meet the ladies during the presentation. The other half is more squarish with a bar and tables and chairs. More on this as we ended up leaving to grab food.

Seeking: Was registered for a few years, but decided to check out the membership for messaging ability. Got a discount code ($87 USD for 30 days) and fired it up a couple of weeks before landing. Thanks Steve 9696 for the no-nonsense guidance via PM (if you're into great novel / Penthouse letters, give his, DramaFree, Elvis and others' Seeking reports a read). This is all down to personal style how you like to experience the ladies. I have been to FKKs and smashed 6 girls in an evening, but definitely not my speed any more (but not due to age / fitness LOL). I definitely prefer longer dates and no rush in the bedroom w / some chemistry. There is literally something for everyone here. Obviously photos can be generous (much like agencies / online) and you have to usually take the worst angle / photo and make that your expectation. Won't go into too much mechanics as others have good guidance there. A pretty brunette branca with fake T&A wanted 2 k BRL!! For a session after some dinner / drinks, some other younger types were asking 900 BRL with some restrictions. Messaged a few really pretty negras, but didn't get that far in the conversation. I wasn't specifying too strict of a time, generally a few hours and see how things go. I ended up messaging a branca gamer / anime girl, who responded on Whatsapp when WW and I were eating (my other option was a pretty ruiva MILF). Long story short, it was a rollercoaster. Did a video chat and got a good vibe. She wanted cash (900 BRL), but also a gift and then later, eventually wanting help fixing her phone. I know this sounds crazy and most would not want to deal with this. But I went with the flow (I'll probably post a long version in the Seeking thread) and be / see she was super late (from far out of the city), we couldn't even address the phone cost estimate as I didn't commit (we got to the mall just at closing, but everything had closed hours earlier, which I figured would happen). But, I convinced her to check out a love hotel with me (and basically an overnight). As she moved the target, so did I, LOL. Seeking check, Pernoite check, love hotel, girlfriend-esque drama, check ha.

Euphoria Motel: downloaded the guiademoteis app (good map function and last minute deals, IE book just before arriving) and got a hidro room for under 200 BRL for 12 hrs. Had a slight issue checking in (because I registered under my stage name and it didn't match my passport copy haha, also make sure girl has ID). Also, the room's jacuzzi / hidro wasn't working (like an HR into it), but got switched to a smaller but functional room. It was fun to check out (they even have BDSM stuff), but we ended up sort of freezing our butts off after the action (hotel gave us an extra sheet, but no blankets available and I wasn't really planning overnight). Could have used the hair dryer WonderWhy, LOL.

Anyway, to the action. Gamer girl came dressed in a school girl outfit (conservative as I requested) with small blinking LED headphones and edgy makeup, wherever we went she got looks. 5'6", 90 lbs natural "be" cups. Great experience. Endless kissing, soft mouth BJ, DATY, digits, etc. Man, she could ride. I don't think any girl has ridden me cowgirl this long, ever. Different hip movements, varying the tempo / speed. I recall in some of the threads some guys either not being able to finish or finishing too quickly as being "problems" in this hobby. I think with Vitamin see (tadalafil), I enjoyed this never ending ride immensely. Each session, she must have rode me for at least 40 minutes straight in cowgirl with an intense stare, tons of kissing (amongst other positions), no complaints. Soft moans, she had a different sex voice for sure ha. Ended up face smashing with CIMSW. The next morning, grabbed breakfast / coffee and figured out the rest of the "deal" as we went along. Once we figured out some of the other stuff, could have cut her loose with some cash, but ended up getting her the gifts / fix phone and ended up being a 24 HR thing. No regrets, but would definitely do things differently. Even though it sounded like she was a shark, she was lovely and it was super IOP / girlfriend (her English is quite good) and went all over town to explore, drink / eat and smash more. I would probably take her to some beach area where P4 P is lacking and make a multi-day deal in the future. Or, grab another (so many options, Seeking or otherwise). Hopefully after the Porto lessons (from Mr E's youtube teacher), when I return, will be passable and be able to enjoy with more girl options.

Next day, returned to Clinica Yankin. While the lineup may not be as subjectively good as Prime, I enjoyed drinking and hanging out there. I even did work stuff. I was tempted to do a Zoom training while getting action, but even I have my limits to the shenanigans ha. Anyhow, I was enjoying hanging out with the ladies & Patricia came along and was short on battery. I had a bank and lent it to her. Morena, cute with braces, but not my fave body / type (probably 5'5", 135). She was sweet to chat with and we actually had a lot of good laughs. So the downside, she was only the 2nd girl to only offer CBJ & no DATY. Ouch. Went for a session anyway and it was it was pretty intense. Good DFK, CBJ (ok), didn't match rhythms so well on sex. So ended up doing a lot of DFK while she was stroking me and I was eventually putting my fingers everywhere. Didn't finish, but had a good time. 1 HR 190 BRL.

Overall, had a blast, was going to check out Rio for a few days with WW, but plans changed for both of us. I was actually going to go to Scandallo after one of my dinners, but life happens. Will add it to the ongoing checklist! Thanks also to Jimmy Boy 99 for getting me on the WA group for Rio (even though I couldn't make it).

Already convinced another wingman to go down, probably next winter. There are so many options day and night in Brazil, will have more action than I could possibly handle in couple of weeks.

After reading so many reports here and in the Colombia thread, Bog / MDE will probably be more layover visits than destinations for now.

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Nice one Foolish! I had similar experiences also with tge the prives in Moema. I would highly recommend everyone to stay in the area (but there is a lot of airplane noise as the airport is just 5-8 minutes away.

I lived in SP for a month and then lived in RJ for 4 months. The options in SP are endless to meet women, enjoy our hobby. RJ is non-existent in that area. But I loved the lifestyle of RJ.

If coming to Brazil just for mongering, I would say totally avoid RJ. Other cities with gorgeous women are Belo Horizonte and Florianópolis, but no mongering scene at all.

I didn't try seeking here, but I am off to London next and very tempted to try it there.

Good move on the CPF (and I also set myself up with PIX) - made things so much easier. I just plan to keep my Brazilian SIM active till my next trip which will most likely be end of year.