Sao Paulo Reports

[Eric Cartman]

Today, all bets are off in Brasil as the country is flush with cash. Todays Brasil is not the Brasil of 10 years ago or even of 5 years ago.

In Tashkent, I spend at max 100 €/day, including accommodation, to live like a rock-star (many GFs, upscale restaurants, bottles in clubs, ect). And if I am drunk at 3 am and don't get any non-pro that night, P4P is available for 100 us$ LT for quality Russian pussy.

Uzbekistan? For vacation?

[Kopkid]

Thanks Altobomgosto for your input, managed to try Dani who is now at Redway, sweet pretty black beauty, awesome BBBJ, tight body. Bty you did mention about an outlet Asiangirls, only for asian clients, please share!

[Knowledge]

I think some guys probably have to work while they are in Sao Paulo.

That is right if you are strictly a monger and if your goal is solely to get laid once or twice a day with prostitutes (but why coming all the way to SP in this case, it's much cheaper to do it at home) , but some guys are ALSO thirsty and prodigal party-goers who want to take advantage of the astoundingly good, fun and diverse Sao Paulo's nightlife (both for pros and non-pros venues). Going to Sao Paulo, which is South America's nightlife capital, and going to sleep at 10 pm is IMO simply silly.

[Prosal]

You bet.

I used to spend 80-100 euros a day long term arrangement. Nowadays 200 euros are not enough.

That's why I moved again to the Far East.

Today, all bets are off in Brasil as the country is flush with cash. Todays Brasil is not the Brasil of 10 years ago or even of 5 years ago.

In Tashkent, I spend at max 100 €/day, including accommodation, to live like a rock-star (many GFs, upscale restaurants, bottles in clubs, ect). And if I am drunk at 3 am and don't get any non-pro that night, P4P is available for 100 us$ LT for quality Russian pussy.

Sao Paulo (and more globally Brasil) , despite all its wonders, is definitely off list for me.

[Prosal]

R$ 250, 00 / day average Av. Paulista area hotel, R$ 50, 00 per meal, garotas between R$ 120, 00 at RedWay / Vanís Way and R$ 300, 00 for an independent escort!

That is right if you are strictly a monger and if your goal is solely to get laid once or twice a day with prostitutes (but why coming all the way to SP in this case, it's much cheaper to do it at home) , but some guys are ALSO thirsty and prodigal party-goers who want to take advantage of the astoundingly good, fun and diverse Sao Paulo's nightlife (both for pros and non-pros venues). Going to Sao Paulo, which is South America's nightlife capital, and going to sleep at 10 pm is IMO simply silly.

[AltoBomGosto]

I would factor $200-250US per day for Sao Paulo hotel and prive (like Redway, Vani's, etc) action. I think this is the minimum, you can definitely spend more if you end up at the clubs like Bomboa, Connection, Scandallo, etc. For Rio, the budget is similar but you should book a rental apartment to save money. Termas will cost you $125-170 all by itself.

R$ 250, 00 / day average Av. Paulista area hotel, R$ 50, 00 per meal, garotas between R$ 120, 00 at RedWay / Vanís Way and R$ 300, 00 for an independent escort!

[Prosal]

I would factor $200-250US per day for Sao Paulo hotel and prive (like Redway, Vani's, etc) action. I think this is the minimum, you can definitely spend more if you end up at the clubs like Bomboa, Connection, Scandallo, etc. For Rio, the budget is similar but you should book a rental apartment to save money. Termas will cost you $125-170 all by itself.

This is actually a minimum. I'd say that it is even a minimum for the running costs like accommodation, food and taxis, but without any partying and mongering option. And I'm not talking about 5 stars hotels and fancy restaurants. A night at a Mercure Aparthotel costs about 100/120 €, and a diner at a mid-level churrascaria like Fogo do Chao about 60 €/person now. Add some taxis, some snacks for lunch, laundry at the hotel, ect, ect, and you easily arrive at 200/250 € per day.

Then add your budget for drinks and entrance in boites, strip bars, clubs (WHAT, some people go to Sao Paulo without stepping a foot in Love Story, the best pick up club on the planet in the history of mankind?) , ect. For me, another 300 €/day minimum (bottle at Love Story must be around 150 € now). And then add the girls.

By the way, I personally see nothing exciting in mass service joints like prives with their disgusting waste baskets full of cum-soaked tissues next to the bed. Sorry ABG. The whole point about Sao Paulo is IMO its fabulous mid-to-upper level "boites", where atmosphere is usually great and the girls gorgeous, where there is sometimes live music or at least a good DJ, where you can dance with the girls and flirt a bit before settling (or not) on a choice, where you can eat sushis or whatever, where you can watch great strip shows, and which often add to the drinking and partying pleasures architectural features that one can seldom find around the world in this kind of etablishments.

[AltoBomGosto]

[B]Now she is an independent escort :

http://www.kissclass.com/modelos/nataliamazonni.html

Have fun!

[El Greco]

Some guys don't have a clue about what is brasilian economy nowadays (rolleyes).

You bet.

I used to spend 80-100 euros a day long term arrangement. Nowadays 200 euros are not enough.

That's why I moved again to the Far East.

[Almotu]

If I want to rent a hotel for 12 days, see about 12 providers and visit some places like night clubs, nude clubs, red district, and swinger clubs.

How much should I have at least? I really don't have any idea about the life cost here.

Consider I will live for free some days and things I can do them in the home like food, laundry. Etc.

Thanks so much again.

I would factor $200-250US per day for Sao Paulo hotel and prive (like Redway, Vani's, etc) action. I think this is the minimum, you can definitely spend more if you end up at the clubs like Bomboa, Connection, Scandallo, etc. For Rio, the budget is similar but you should book a rental apartment to save money. Termas will cost you $125-170 all by itself.

[Prosal]

I have to respectfully disagree with you. Knowledge.

I don't think that R$300 for 1h 1/2 is really to expensive for a city like São Paulo.

+1. Rs300 is normal (and even rather cheap) for a world-class city flooded by money as Sao Paulo. Some guys don't have a clue about what is brasilian economy nowadays (rolleyes).

[Prosal]

We are talking about Sao Paulo.

According to Mercer 2012 survey (Cost of Living worldwide rankings) , Sao Paulo (12) and Rio de Janeiro (13) are the most expensive cities for expatriates across both North and South America. New York is 33rd. Furthermore, there is in SP a very very high concentration of local businessmen with outrageously high incomes. It would logical to deduce that "escorts" adjust their tariffs accordingly.

[Knowledge]

my opinion is everybody should pay as much as they want. i think we probably agree about that. i find it funny how often the subject of prices in north america and europe come up in south america, asia, and europe forums. it don't make no sense to me but i always laugh.

so anyway, my comment about r$300 was all about sao paulo and nowhere else. r$300 is awesome price in new york, paris, but what difference that make. we talking about sao paulo.

i have to respectfully disagree with you. knowledge.

i don't think that r$300 for 1h 1/2 is really to expensive for a city like são paulo. if we do quick maths here it is less than 150$ for 1h1/2. (canadian and us even if cdn$ worth more than us$).

where can you find these prices in canada or in the us with good looking girls like that? in europe it is even more expensive.

for me r$300 is the threshold price and i don't like to pay more than that because i respect the law of the market. in rome do like the romans.

this is the reason why i don't spend my evening in tourists traps where girls ask sometimes between r$500 to r$700. but this is a free market and i respect the choice (whatever the reasons behind these choices are) of those who are ready to pay these prices.

for years i sticked to an advice that was given to me by my mentor gringo aposentado: "never pay more than r$200". but it was more than seven years ago. now if i keep up with the market (and the inflation) i think that nowadays r$300 is a realistic and fair price for some (here i'd like to stress the term "some") gdp.

on the other hand there is what i can call a "trashold price" (a contracted form of trash threshold price) : it is around r120 in a privê or r$200 in a nice clinica. what is good in these venues is that you can ask garotas their private phone numbers and make a deal with them in order to meet them outside the privê and the clinica for a very fair price. this is there where hobbying becomes a sport: you need to be an expert in negotiation to obtain the best deal possible.

what is even more interesting (and cheaper) than gdp is to have a date with a non-pro. what are the best places to find them? in the happy hours spots near avenida paulista, sales clerk in the numerous shopping center that are rep001tered over the city (my favorite hunting ground is the ibirapuera shopping center).

[Sui Generis]

this should be deleted because of the price alone!

i have to respectfully disagree with you. knowledge.

i don't think that r$300 for 1h 1/2 is really to expensive for a city like são paulo. if we do quick maths here it is less than 150$ for 1h1/2. (canadian and us even if cdn$ worth more than us$).

where can you find these prices in canada or in the us with good looking girls like that? in europe it is even more expensive.

for me r$300 is the threshold price and i don't like to pay more than that because i respect the law of the market. in rome do like the romans.

this is the reason why i don't spend my evening in tourists traps where girls ask sometimes between r$500 to r$700. but this is a free market and i respect the choice (whatever the reasons behind these choices are) of those who are ready to pay these prices.

for years i sticked to an advice that was given to me by my mentor gringo aposentado: "never pay more than r$200". but it was more than seven years ago. now if i keep up with the market (and the inflation) i think that nowadays r$300 is a realistic and fair price for some (here i'd like to stress the term "some") gdp.

on the other hand there is what i can call a "trashold price" (a contracted form of trash threshold price) : it is around r120 in a privê or r$200 in a nice clinica. what is good in these venues is that you can ask garotas their private phone numbers and make a deal with them in order to meet them outside the privê and the clinica for a very fair price. this is there where hobbying becomes a sport: you need to be an expert in negotiation to obtain the best deal possible.

what is even more interesting (and cheaper) than gdp is to have a date with a non-pro. what are the best places to find them? in the happy hours spots near avenida paulista, sales clerk in the numerous shopping center that are rep001tered over the city (my favorite hunting ground is the ibirapuera shopping center).

[BionicMan]

This should be deleted because of the price alone!

Ah ha ah, a good reason indeed.