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  1. #16558
    I am sorry you had an underwhelming experience. I don't think there is any place in this world where you can be guaranteed "X". Also, particularly so because that definition of X is very different from person to person. This hobby is such. Very subjective. And, to make things even more complex, we, the hobbyists, change our preferences / kinks as we age.

    Please don't conclude so quickly on BR. Do speak to few members, research a bit more and allow yourself to learn from your own failures and adventures. I am sure, you will fall in love with the beautiful country and it's people.

    Finally, personally for me, the fact that this hobby involves unexpected and unpredictable outcomes each time makes me interested to pursue this. If it were exactly 10/10 (whatever that means) each time, I will probably get bored and give up.

    Quote Originally Posted by LatamHunter  [View Original Post]
    My recent sao-paulo trip was underwhelming not quite the quality or bang for buck I get even in the states with SA.

    I tried a combo of lists and also went to scandallo.

    The main thing that I noticed is that in So Paulo the girls always try to rush and call it good after one shot. Even the high end list girls too they don't put any effort.

    I think some of the lists are also the same agents that are running PA too.

    I had a situation twice where the girl (agent) offers a service through the phone. I get there and they say, "oh I don't do that" or "not for this price".

    I said yeah if not I'm out.

    I get out to leave and the agent talks to me directly with the girls supposed number.

    Gave me all kinds of threats and said I had to pay the girl for wasting her time. That they know where I am staying and the like.

    Just keep in mind that all these girls are working for an agent and when you message them they are working as a intermediary. Only once you meet them can you see them cutting out the middle man.

    But even then after sampling like out here I am not too impressed.

    For the price of comming out here and the inflated prices these girls are charging I would go elsewhere.

  2. #16557
    Quote Originally Posted by AboveAverage  [View Original Post]
    So I just finished booking my flight from Sao Paulo to Rio De Janeiro and it was probably the most frustrating flight booking experience of my life. I'm kicking myself for not booking the flight earlier because the shorter term flight prices are completely out of control. The flight I booked was for April 22nd, but I wanted to fly on April 20th.

    It usually costs under $50 USD to fly from SP to RJ but everything for the next 8 days has skyrocketed to the $400 dollar range. Even if the booking company says they have some flights available for $100, I will fill out all the info and then it will tell me that the price is now $700.

    The LATAM website is also another entity that can go fuck itself. The price changes dramatically if you are using the Brazilian website, or the international version (about 4 x more expensive). As a foreigner trying to book a flight on the Brazil website, it only tells me that the selected flight is now full.

    Is this typical behaviour for Brazilian airlines? Is there any point in waiting to see if the prices go down at all, or do they pretty much only go up?
    Just take the bus for $20-$25 and 6 hours travel.

  3. #16556

    First time in SP!

    Currently my plan is to arrive early on Sunday the 23rd. Staying in the Hilton Morumbi (I know this is sub optimal location but it's one of the few hotels approved by my company). My hope is to hit a clinicas around mid morning. Is that even possible on a Sunday's? I have narrowed it down to palms, pro, lotus, and Prime. That evening I'the like to go to casarao because it's open Sunday. Will it be dead on Sunday? The rest of the week I hope to pull in an escort from a site for overnight and try scandello. Please let me know if I am missing anything!

    This site has been incredibly helpful!

  4. #16555

    Abg

    Quote Originally Posted by RudyMuller888  [View Original Post]
    I keep seeing the acronym and I cannot for the life of me figure it out! Thanks!
    It's for the username Alto Bom Gusto.

    He led many forum users to good times and good girls.

    Seems he's dead.

  5. #16554

    What is ABG?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge  [View Original Post]
    ABG was a great guy, a legend. I ahd some good times with him at the old Vani's Way back around 2010.
    I keep seeing the acronym and I cannot for the life of me figure it out! Thanks!

  6. #16553
    Quote Originally Posted by LatamHunter  [View Original Post]
    My recent sao-paulo trip was underwhelming not quite the quality or bang for buck I get even in the states with SA.

    I tried a combo of lists and also went to scandallo.

    The main thing that I noticed is that in So Paulo the girls always try to rush and call it good after one shot. Even the high end list girls too they don't put any effort.

    I think some of the lists are also the same agents that are running PA too.

    I had a situation twice where the girl (agent) offers a service through the phone. I get there and they say, "oh I don't do that" or "not for this price".

    I said yeah if not I'm out.

    I get out to leave and the agent talks to me directly with the girls supposed number.

    Gave me all kinds of threats and said I had to pay the girl for wasting her time. That they know where I am staying and the like..
    Sorry this happened to you. I thought my trip was going to go the same as yours after selecting a girl in Scandallo who had a great body but was not worth it, and I was afraid it would represent my trip. While I was disappointed with her performance, I decided to go through this site again, and check out reviews of girls on review sites (which is what I would do if I was in the USA Before seeing a girl). Taking that extra time to research did help and each girl I booked moving forward was progressively better than the next. I know this won't do much to solve your current frustrations, but there are some good and great options in SP.

  7. #16552
    So I just finished booking my flight from Sao Paulo to Rio De Janeiro and it was probably the most frustrating flight booking experience of my life. I'm kicking myself for not booking the flight earlier because the shorter term flight prices are completely out of control. The flight I booked was for April 22nd, but I wanted to fly on April 20th.

    It usually costs under $50 USD to fly from SP to RJ but everything for the next 8 days has skyrocketed to the $400 dollar range. Even if the booking company says they have some flights available for $100, I will fill out all the info and then it will tell me that the price is now $700.

    The LATAM website is also another entity that can go fuck itself. The price changes dramatically if you are using the Brazilian website, or the international version (about 4 x more expensive). As a foreigner trying to book a flight on the Brazil website, it only tells me that the selected flight is now full.

    Is this typical behaviour for Brazilian airlines? Is there any point in waiting to see if the prices go down at all, or do they pretty much only go up?

  8. #16551
    My recent sao-paulo trip was underwhelming not quite the quality or bang for buck I get even in the states with SA.

    I tried a combo of lists and also went to scandallo.

    The main thing that I noticed is that in São Paulo the girls always try to rush and call it good after one shot. Even the high end list girls too they don't put any effort.

    I think some of the lists are also the same agents that are running PA too.

    I had a situation twice where the girl (agent) offers a service through the phone. I get there and they say, "oh I don't do that" or "not for this price".

    I said yeah if not I'm out.

    I get out to leave and the agent talks to me directly with the girls supposed number.

    Gave me all kinds of threats and said I had to pay the girl for wasting her time. That they know where I am staying and the like.

    Just keep in mind that all these girls are working for an agent and when you message them they are working as a intermediary. Only once you meet them can you see them cutting out the middle man.

    But even then after sampling like out here I am not too impressed.

    For the price of comming out here and the inflated prices these girls are charging I would go elsewhere.

  9. #16550

    Underwhelming

    My recent sao-paulo trip was underwhelming not quite the quality or bang for buck I get even in the states with SA.

    I tried a combo of lists and also went to scandallo.

    The main thing that I noticed is that in São Paulo the girls always try to rush and call it good after one shot. Even the high end list girls too they don't put any effort.

    I think some of the lists are also the same agents that are running PA too.

    I had a situation twice where the girl (agent) offers a service through the phone. I get there and they say, "oh I don't do that" or "not for this price".

    I said yeah if not I'm out.

    I get out to leave and the agent talks to me directly with the girls supposed number.

    Gave me all kinds of threats and said I had to pay the girl for wasting her time. That they know where I am staying and the like.

    Just keep in mind that all these girls are working for an agent and when you message them they are working as a intermediary. Only once you meet them can you see them cutting out the middle man.

    But even then after sampling like out here I am not too impressed.

    For the price of comming out here and the inflated prices these girls are charging I would go elsewhere.

  10. #16549

    Travel plan to Sao Paulo

    Quote Originally Posted by SexIsLove  [View Original Post]
    I think this campaign may be true since I heard recently of a foreign seaman in one of the ships visiting Brazil has been in prison already for 10 days for harassment, touching a security woman's butt at the dock and flirting with her.
    Thanks for the reply. This is little bad news of this campaign. Normally if someone is mongering with freelancer or hanging out with girl outside club / clinicas, there can be some disagreement / argument and lady can take advantage of such laws / campaign. Normally I like to bring girls to my Hotel room or Motel. Please suggest if this campaign has distributed any mongering scenes in Sao Paulo or Sao Paulo is still rocking.

    Also, in my past trips I was hanging out with ABG as I know very basic Portuguese. Any one in the forum who can guide me like wingman ABG. He was legend and very good person and I had very good time with him in Sao Paulo.

  11. #16548
    Quote Originally Posted by TheCane  [View Original Post]
    ... any time I brought a girl back we just walked straight for the elevators no questions asked.
    And working girls are working out from it too.

    Quote Originally Posted by UniversalX  [View Original Post]
    ...
    Given "reasonable" usage how long would 5 GB of data last?? ....
    ...
    It goes down to slower speed after 5GB. I use it more like a spare and I prefer to get local SIM even though I have two numbers with me. Local SIM has much faster speed.

  12. #16547
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    Yeah I don't see the appeal in DFK either. Im not there to make love, Im there to have my fun.
    My guess is all men are different. DFK gets me harder faster than anything else including BBBJ.

  13. #16546
    ABG was a great guy, a legend. I ahd some good times with him at the old Vani's Way back around 2010.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackob54  [View Original Post]
    Hi everyone. Need your suggestion / advise on below.

    I intend to travel Sao paulo in few weeks for holidays of 11 days. Last I visited Sao paulo was before covid in year 2019. I plan to stay in Mercure moema times square. I beleive this is girl friendly Hotel. Please advise me. Mainly I intend to visit clinicas and boates like Scandallo, casarao, bamboa as discussed in forum. I have gone through last 100 pages of this forum and was quite beneficial. I know very basic Portuguese and cannot speak Portuguese. Last time I visited, I hanged out with ABG (Alto bom gosto), So did not face any language issue. IS it safe to monger alone with very little or no command in Portuguese language? Also, Should I include Rio de Janerio on my mongering plan as I have never visited there. Any suggestion will be most welcome.

    One thing I have been reading in news that now a days there is campaign going on in Brazil against sexual harrasment of women. Any information on if it has harmed mongering scenes in Brazil. Following is the link:

    https://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/en/...rassment-women

  14. #16545

    If they ban your guest it's because you want it

    The thing goes like this.

    You are an adult traveler and you have made a reservation for two pax in one double room. They can't ban her.

    If you bring a second guest during the same day / night, that's another story, hotel has the right to charge extra or make a new reservation.

    If your reservation is a single room for one person, then you made a bad choice.

    * * * * * *.

    I remember a hotel in Chile suggested that I could not "enter the hotel with a pro*t*ute" and I got mad and said "are you telling my girlfriend is a pr*ti**te?

    When the girl left the hotel one hour later, I got a phonecall from the reception "Hey sir, your girlfriend just left the hotel" and I replied "oh yeah, we have argued" LOL.

  15. #16544
    Quote Originally Posted by Jackob54  [View Original Post]
    Hi everyone. Need your suggestion / advise on below.

    I intend to travel Sao paulo in few weeks for holidays of 11 days. Last I visited Sao paulo was before covid in year 2019. I plan to stay in Mercure moema times square. I beleive this is girl friendly Hotel. Please advise me. Mainly I intend to visit clinicas and boates like Scandallo, casarao, bamboa as discussed in forum. I have gone through last 100 pages of this forum and was quite beneficial. I know very basic Portuguese and cannot speak Portuguese. Last time I visited, I hanged out with ABG (Alto bom gosto), So did not face any language issue. IS it safe to monger alone with very little or no command in Portuguese language? Also, Should I include Rio de Janerio on my mongering plan as I have never visited there. Any suggestion will be most welcome.

    One thing I have been reading in news that now a days there is campaign going on in Brazil against sexual harrasment of women. Any information on if it has harmed mongering scenes in Brazil. Following is the link:

    https://agenciabrasil.ebc.com.br/en/...rassment-women
    I think this campaign may be true since I heard recently of a foreign seaman in one of the ships visiting Brazil has been in prison already for 10 days for harassment, touching a security woman's butt at the dock and flirting with her.

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