Sao Paulo Reports

[Steve 9696]

I've stayed at the Bourbon Convention Hotel in Moema twice and had no problems, I think the windows are sound proofed.

+1. Stayed there and loved it. Perfect quiet. No issues at all and right in the heart of Clinica country and easy drive to Casarao or Scandallo. Even easier to Bomboa. High recommend.

[Bang Koker]

Have you left out something Bang Koker? I mean you already had 40 minutes of banging. What tripped her off?

The only thing I left out was that before the meeting I had to reschedule it by 30 minutes as I started ordering an uber a bit too late to get there on time. But when I confirmed I'm on my way she told me that's all good (and it's South America where nobody is ever on time). She didn't mention we'll have a shorter meeting bc of that. I arrived just after 18:30, at 19:11 she confirmed that we have 20 minutes left and about 5 minutes later she started the shitshow (I think I also got a little bit softer at that time but it wasn't really bad).

[Turgid]

Forgive me Father for I have sinned. And I know that, if given the chance, I will do so again. Now, airport noise can indeed be an issue in Moema. However, I know it's still possible to headquarter there while mitigating against the noise. The first time I went to Sampa, I stayed at the Mercure Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Privilege (do not recommend). That was a bad choice for me for a number of reasons, including that overhead airplane noise could get quite loud. But on subsequent trips, I stayed at the Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square (recommend) and it was totally fine with no airplane noise issues whatsoever (I do sleep heavy). Don't know why the difference, but must have something to do with the flight pattern. Some here have recommended the Bourbon Convention Hotel in Moema, and that one would indeed be quite convenient, but I've stayed away from it because you can look up and literally see the planes overhead. But bottom line I don't agree that staying in Moema isn't smart. Not only is it very convenient for hitting the clinicas but also for restaurants, bank ATMs, grocery stores, and shopping. I was even able to find a good barbershop. And a big plus for it is that it's safe too! I've been out walking around Moema at all times of day and night no problems and never felt any threats once. I think it's a matter of finding the right spot. The Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square works for me.

I've stayed at the Bourbon Convention Hotel in Moema twice and had no problems, I think the windows are sound proofed.

[Turgid]

Couple days ago I had very unpleasant meeting with a clubmodel * called Bia Castro. After about 40 minutes of our meeting she told me we have 20 minutes to go, however about 5 minutes later she started telling me to go away, being more and more angry each minute when I couldn't come for second time. I wanted to tell her in my broken Portuguese that if she shuts her mouth and continue doing her job I'll handle that situation, but I couldn't fully articulate that due to lack of language skills. So I got up and then she started shouting even more, scaring her little dog and started to push me over and pull. Not a smart move given that I'm a 100-kilogram man in his late 20's with martial arts training background. Anyway I don't use force on women so she was lucky. When I tried to go into shower she pushed me into the cabin all furious and then started to hit me with the cabin's glass door. Fair enough, I'll just wash my hands and gtfo then. But she didn't even let me wash my hands. Later there was also some force involved after I dressed up which probably damaged my t-shirt a little but nothing visible I think. And she tried to teach me something about respect LOL. Anyway out of the meeting I got got 2 x massages, 2 x BBBJs, a cowgirl, a reverse cowgirl, on the side, from behind and a story to tell so the 500 bozos weren't completely wasted.

I think I'll try scandallo for the first time soon, is it still 300 for entrance if I enter before 19 (and what about the minimum spend)? Is there any dress code? Should I decline any girl that comes to me and instead look for these I like and approach them? What might be the best day to go there?

Have you left out something Bang Koker? I mean you already had 40 minutes of banging. What tripped her off?

[Bang Koker]

Couple days ago I had very unpleasant meeting with a clubmodel * called Bia Castro. After about 40 minutes of our meeting she told me we have 20 minutes to go, however about 5 minutes later she started telling me to go away, being more and more angry each minute when I couldn't come for second time. I wanted to tell her in my broken Portuguese that if she shuts her mouth and continue doing her job I'll handle that situation, but I couldn't fully articulate that due to lack of language skills. So I got up and then she started shouting even more, scaring her little dog and started to push me over and pull. Not a smart move given that I'm a 100-kilogram man in his late 20's with martial arts training background. Anyway I don't use force on women so she was lucky. When I tried to go into shower she pushed me into the cabin all furious and then started to hit me with the cabin's glass door. Fair enough, I'll just wash my hands and gtfo then. But she didn't even let me wash my hands. Later there was also some force involved after I dressed up which probably damaged my t-shirt a little but nothing visible I think. And she tried to teach me something about respect LOL. Anyway out of the meeting I got got 2 x massages, 2 x BBBJs, a cowgirl, a reverse cowgirl, on the side, from behind and a story to tell so the 500 bozos weren't completely wasted.

I think I'll try scandallo for the first time soon, is it still 300 for entrance if I enter before 19 (and what about the minimum spend)? Is there any dress code? Should I decline any girl that comes to me and instead look for these I like and approach them? What might be the best day to go there?

[Bearsi]

The first time I went to Sampa, I stayed at the Mercure Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Privilege (do not recommend). That was a bad choice for me for a number of reasons, including that overhead airplane noise could get quite loud. But on subsequent trips, I stayed at the Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square (recommend) and it was totally fine with no airplane noise issues whatsoever (I do sleep heavy). Don't know why the difference, but must have something to do with the flight pattern. Some here have recommended the Bourbon Convention Hotel in Moema, and that one would indeed be quite convenient, but I've stayed away from it because you can look up and literally see the planes overhead. But bottom line I don't agree that staying in Moema isn't smart. Not only is it very convenient for hitting the clinicas but also for restaurants, bank ATMs, grocery stores, and shopping. I was even able to find a good barbershop. And a big plus for it is that it's safe too! I've been out walking around Moema at all times of day and night no problems and never felt any threats once. I think it's a matter of finding the right spot. The Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square works for me.

What you're suggesting is on the other side of the airplane noise area I uploaded with this response. Brooklin novo is just on the other side. Also safe and the airbnbs (if that's you're method, reader) are amazing! 24 HR pool, gym, sauna, bicycle to use and laundry. The one thing I do find annoying is how long a hotel takes to clean your clothes and how much it charges tho to be fair I know it's a bunch of logistics. After the 2nd girl over I like to wash the sheets and towels. For brooklin you would want to get an uber to hit the clinicas unless you don't mind starting at enjoy clinica and crossing the little highway to abobbora and the rest. I like brooklin novo as the airbnbs are much nicer and you get a nice view of the city with a balcony usually. The area also has nice cheap lunch spots that are great. i'm also a big fan of mirrors and there are a ton of airbnbs in brooklin novo area with a huge mirror in front of the bed or on the side for the closet. it's like a mini love motel room. that's something i do consider a must for me personally. the grand hyatt had some mirrors in the bathroom but i couldn't move them to the bed. so my only gripes with hotels but that's really a personal problem.

So dear reader it depends if you want a hotel go with the cane's advice as he has good info and intel or if you are better suited for airbnbs brooklin novo has a great amount that can't be beat.

[The Cane]

I've returned to see my apostle Saint Paul and he laid before me a city of concrete and great splendor that only one dreams of.

In my Journey, I ventured with 3 other brothers in arms, each with their own tales to tell but this one is mine.

PREFACE

There are some words of advice I'd like to bestow upon thee before I ventured any further.

LOCATION

Moema is a nice area and one would think being 5 mins away walking distance to the major clinicas would be a smart move, it is not. The problem you will find is that the airplanes constantly go over your head day and night and do not cease. I stayed in the moema area to show a new SP visitor around town and it was not worth it in his own words. I'm a heavy sleeper but still it did bug me when I just wanted to read my essential reading materials such as The Complete Calvin and Hobbes (paperback) and Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov.

There is no ideal location to stay at. You will be far from either the boates or the clinicas or something else. There is no "right spot" to stay at. I stayed in moema for the first 10 days then went to the Grand Hyatt in brooklin area. I think a good compromise is Brooklin novo. It's only 10 min ride away to the clinicas and 30 mins from bomboa, scandallo and casarao more or less. It's also a decent area which you have to remember is important because some girls will flat out refuse to come over if you're in a bad neighborhood like Repblica. They'll tell you to come to them or get a love motel and you don't want that if you can help it.

Forgive me Father for I have sinned. And I know that, if given the chance, I will do so again. Now, airport noise can indeed be an issue in Moema. However, I know it's still possible to headquarter there while mitigating against the noise. The first time I went to Sampa, I stayed at the Mercure Sao Paulo Ibirapuera Privilege (do not recommend). That was a bad choice for me for a number of reasons, including that overhead airplane noise could get quite loud. But on subsequent trips, I stayed at the Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square (recommend) and it was totally fine with no airplane noise issues whatsoever (I do sleep heavy). Don't know why the difference, but must have something to do with the flight pattern. Some here have recommended the Bourbon Convention Hotel in Moema, and that one would indeed be quite convenient, but I've stayed away from it because you can look up and literally see the planes overhead. But bottom line I don't agree that staying in Moema isn't smart. Not only is it very convenient for hitting the clinicas but also for restaurants, bank ATMs, grocery stores, and shopping. I was even able to find a good barbershop. And a big plus for it is that it's safe too! I've been out walking around Moema at all times of day and night no problems and never felt any threats once. I think it's a matter of finding the right spot. The Mercure Sao Paulo Moema Times Square works for me.

[Bearsi]

I've returned to see my apostle Saint Paul and he laid before me a city of concrete and great splendor that only one dreams of.

In my Journey, I ventured with 3 other brothers in arms, each with their own tales to tell but this one is mine.

PREFACE

There are some words of advice I'd like to bestow upon thee before I ventured any further.

LOCATION

Moema is a nice area and one would think being 5 mins away walking distance to the major clinicas would be a smart move, it is not. The problem you will find is that the airplanes constantly go over your head day and night and do not cease. I stayed in the moema area to show a new SP visitor around town and it was not worth it in his own words. I'm a heavy sleeper but still it did bug me when I just wanted to read my essential reading materials such as The Complete Calvin and Hobbes (paperback) and Pale Fire by Vladimir Nabokov.

There is no ideal location to stay at. You will be far from either the boates or the clinicas or something else. There is no "right spot" to stay at. I stayed in moema for the first 10 days then went to the Grand Hyatt in brooklin area. I think a good compromise is Brooklin novo. It's only 10 min ride away to the clinicas and 30 mins from bomboa, scandallo and casarao more or less. It's also a decent area which you have to remember is important because some girls will flat out refuse to come over if you're in a bad neighborhood like Repblica. They'll tell you to come to them or get a love motel and you don't want that if you can help it.

AIRBNB and HOTEL

I used Airbnb and my host had it written down that I had to check in every guest that I had coming in. It really made it annoying some days. Eventually I just went pass the front desk but this can be a problem if the building sees this as a problem and can kick you out. If a host says you can't have visitor or you have a limit I'd take that into consideration and look for something else. I'd ask them what the method is to get in the building as some places you get a keyfob or they use face scanner to let you in and you just bypass security or times you need to talk to the front desk every time and that's when you have a problem usually.

Also take into consideration of hotels. Some girls will only go to a guys place if it's a hotel. I had some scandallo girls tell me this and online girls. Since this is my 6th rodeo I had some girls who I had a repeat with come to my airbnb but that's because they knew I was 300 like the romans (300 = CCC = cool, calm, collective).

I stayed in the Grand Hyatt at their presidential suite which is their best suite and it was a delight. I was there during lollapalooza festival so it was extra interesting as some of the artists were staying on the same floor and security was extra tight as there was a ton of fan girls waiting to see their favorite artists walk by. I'm sure some were for me as well but I didn't pay them no mind.

Things to take note of is that the maximum registered guests you can have for your stay is 3 people. Anything over that you have to pay R150. The rooms is big enough to have 6-8 people over so really it's up to you if you want to pay that extra cost for an 4 some or more. Before 7 pm they don't really care about you bringing a girl or 2 or 4 over because they know you have friends that will want to come over but after 7 pm they have a security guard at the front who will guide you to the front desk to sign in your guests because they assume anyone coming in after 7 pm might stay the night and they don't want a fiesta happening in your place without getting a piece of that sweet action. Once a girl leaves make sure to sign them out so you have two guests available to come still. The front desk might try to squeeze you like a Heinz EZ Squirt Purple ketchup bottle and say you already used up your 2 guest spots and now you have to pay R150 for any new visitors. That's not how it works. It's any two guests at any given time. As long as you signed out any previous guests you don't have to pay unless you go over the room limit. It's usually a different front desk person so they might be confused so just politely tell them you are within the limit and clear up the confusion.

With the presidential suite you also get free breakfast, usually that means downstairs on the first floor but you can also get it sent to your room complimentary. You have to use the hotel's website to order your breakfast combo and add it to your room charge and schedule it but once you check out it will be noted as complimentary and you don't pay. A buddy of mine who has been there many many time never knew this and always missed breakfast. With the jacuzzi and it's view of the city it's really the best spot in SP. Your girl will go wild.

CASH IS KING

I recommend getting a charles schwab debit card so you don't have to pay any ATM fees. The grand hyatt notoriously has a high ATM fee, something like 30% of whatever you're taking out. Its crazy. Sometimes you will get a POS ATM situation like this so the CS debit card will save you some brain cells and dollars. I like using the bradesco atms as they work with international debit cards and they have a 2500 BRL withdrawal and some let you pick what type of bills you get. There are some 24 HR ATM machines located in supermarkets and express stores but they only let you take out 1000 BRL.

Always keep cash with you as it can save you alot of money and stress down the road. I mainly use my credit card to get those points but when you pay the girl it's always best to pay by cash as some places will charge you 10%-30% to pay them with card. Some girls have machines but they will also charge you or their machines won't work and now you have to find a ATM at 3 am and that's never fun.

HEALTH

You should get on PREP before you head out. Takes about 2 weeks to be effective and you will have some peace of mind. Most Health insurance covers it. You can buy good skyn condoms at the pharmacies and you can get sildenafil or Tadalafil (generic Cialis) there as well. Its pretty cheap. Get some mouth wash as well. Scandallo has tons in their mens bathroom but the girls don't so I've had some funny encounters where the girls will ask me to sneak them some out of the mens bathroom because they can't go in. I know some guys like to make out with their girls hardcore but make sure to wash that mouth right away because some girls aren't as hygienic as others. They will clean their pussy and ass but only a few times I've seen a girl brush her teeth or get mouthwash.

If you start to feel sick go to the pharmacy and get some meds for sore throat / coughing right away. Once you get sick you won't have the strength to do anything let alone girls. I had a friend ignore my advice and he was out of action for a good 5 days which could have easily been dealt with. If you feel bad enough go to a clinic and get some stronger meds just in case. Once you're out of commission you might as well be on your outgoing flight because you're gone.

CELLPHONE

I'm a tmobile customer and tmobile gives its MAX Magenta user 5 gb free international data so as soon as I landed I was up and running. You can also get Google Fi and it does the same thing for $20 or so. You can also use the airport's WIFI and get an uber straight to the nearest mall where you will be staying at and get a sim card from TIM but I helped a friend do that and went with him and it took about two hours before it became active so it's kind of a hassle if you don't need to do this.

BUDDY SYSTEM

for sao paulo i would recommend you come with a buddy or meet other members there. Sao Paulo is great but doing the boates alone really is a wretched experience especially when you have done it with a group of buddies before. you can really relax and take your time to soak it all in and get some more insights from your buddy as you only have two eyeballs and two heads with one doing most of the decision making. In my experience, every guy has their own tastes and there usually is very little crossover. I, myself, am very fond of pale redhead with blue/green eyes and my buddies were into the exact opposites. they knew my type and could easily point a girl out that i would like faster than i did at times. you can't visit all the places and be there at the same time so they can get you some important info about the kind of talent one place has and so on. sao paulo really in essence is going from one building to another to another with lots of uber rides in between so it's better with company during those times. i would highly recommend you stay in the same building if you're doing Airbnb or the same hotel. it really saves time and when you're in need of help they are only a few floors away and not blocks. I ran out of condoms once and money with two girl over and my friend was able to come up to my floor and drop off a box and some cash.

[Nounce]

...Beside mongering, if you don't mind eating beef.

No problem if one does not eat beef, try a Pernil sandwich that is made of pork and one can easily get 24 hrs a day. I think Pernil is more local, while what you had is more international.

[HombreIndio]

Hi, I am an Indian living in the US and visiting SP for 1 week for the first time. I have mongered in Hong Kong, Macau, Thailand, US and India.

Based on the previous posts and PMs, I have shortlisted: Scandello, Casarao, 57 Friends boates.

Clinicas: Lotus, Oro, Palms, Prime, Miruna, Tangara, Abbobara, Enjoy, Brooklin, Taj mahal.

Can you please help me with the following*?

1. Planning to use Google Fi sim. Is it reliable?

2. Always use Uber. Anything to be aware of?

3. Checked google images and they don't have name*boards for Clinicas. Are they easy to find? Also if Clinicas close 9 they take last apnt at 9 or 8 ?.

Hello fellow Indian,

No ethnicity issues in Latin America. We Indians blend right in because of our complexion.

Yes, clinicas don't announce their names on boards but they are super easy to find. Especially Tangara which is my favorite place to go. Don't know if they are open on Sundays or not.

Uber is my preferred way of transportation but I have experienced Uber drivers selecting the ride and then cancelling it due to traffic / weather. Expect delays getting picked up.

Beside mongering, if you don't mind eating beef, do have a Mortadella sandwich in Mercado Municipal. Usually my first stop in Sao Paulo.

[HiddenEye]

At first I thought it was a bad idea when Alexa introduced the blond girl with channel hair cut. She looked like boring and a normal figure and I was really thinking of calling the production.

I was so wrong. She had very long legs, ultra high heels and a juicy ass. She really knew how to interact with the camera.

For photo / video tips, always glad to answer your questions by PM.

Note: One pic always to show it was really SP where this took place and Alexa on the far right.

[HiddenEye]

Few words about the wisdom of taxi drivers.

Important to mention that old labor unions of Taxi are still active, they rule the Ponto Taxis (taxi stations with white taxis in SP). Getting one place as a driver, required an important investment, some drivers told me they paid an entrance fee of 10 K-15 K US dollars, in reales of course. Drivers get commissions from bars to bring clients (Uber and ponto taxis do the same). That was the way I got to Zeus bar, but that's another story. Remember current government loves labor unions.

In cities of the interior only (the bast majority of such big country) there are official Moto-Taxis as transport. These guys in particular were very close to working girls as you may imagine. One of these motoboys brought me a GP to my road motel at noon!! It was maybe a woman in her mid 30's I would give her a 6 in beauty, but I took her 'cause I was already feeling like Duran Duran. Hungry like the wolf LOL. F**king at 35 see (95 F) and 90% humidity, the ceiling fan at full throtle because the motel did not have cooling system. My body sliding on her because of the amount to sweat, that woman made me ask for mercy with her moves on top and all the dirty words she said in portuguese. After drying my body from the warm shower, I ran to a lanchonete to buy a cold beer and fire a smoke to bring back my soul to my body. There was a killer sun outside. The GP at the end left the motel and took a bus right in front.

Our friends from India will feel like at home, I suppose jajajaja.

This motoboy brought a physical album of pics so I could choose! That was insane guys, fat women, tall, short, redheads, mulatas, mostly 5's and few 6's for the quality of pics because most girls were in doggy showing the crotch or legs wide open. They had also other albums I did not dare to browse. That was really some wild popular pussy and visual impacting, I can say.

Even the interior of Sao Paulo will have these motoboys. They are great source of popular fun. I also like to taste popular from time to time, there can be incredible surprises, or hidden gems as you call.

Note: I don't post this info on the Cuiaba threat becasue that's a dead part of the forum.

[SoberHans69]

Just noticed two fraudulent charges on my credit card today and I've only used it in Brazil. Pretty much only used that card for contact less payments but not sure where they got my details.

[XXL]

I am also Indian and have been going to Brazil regularly for the last 20 years for work. My answers to your questions are:

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2) Uber black. Usually the same price. Nothing to worry about.
...

I stopped using Uber black ever since one of them stayed in traffic jams on purpose in a long trip to Zona Leste. Uber blacks get paid for time on top of the basic price while UberXs get paid the price that shows up when you order the ride.

[ElPostino]

My Indian friends didn't notice much ethnic bias during their travels. In fact, most thrived in SP and had experiences that most would kill for. With that said, YMMV. It depends on how your present and carry yourself. Also depends which part of town, which club and which clinica or girl. Too general of a question to answer.

You are spot in 'how you carry and present yourself". As long as you respect and treat them well and present yourself well including wearing nice, not necessarily fancy, clothes.