Sao Paulo Reports

[FlowState985]

Based on the previous posts and PMs, I have shortlisted: Scandello, Casarao, 57 Friends boates.

57 Friends is more like bar / clinica than a boate (nightclub), you can even go in and ask for a line up like a clinica.

Clinicas: Lotus, Oro, Palms, Prime, Miruna, Tangara, Abbobara, Enjoy, Brooklin, Taj mahal.

Lotus, Oro, Palms are high end clinica and only uses tablet. Prime and the rest does presentation in person and you can just go in those places and say "apresentação" for presentation.

3. Checked google images and they don't have name*boards for Clinicas. Are they easy to find? Also if Clinicas close 9 they take last apnt at 9 or 8 ?

They are easy to find. Most girls come in around 12-1 probably leave around 6-7.

4. Will be roaming alone. Any issues with Indian ethnicity in roads, clubs and clinicas?

It is safe and I felt safe in Moema and Paulista. I was walking around 9-10 PM at night looking for food. Most people drive in SP, and people that normally on motorbike are delivery guys. If you are in downtown, it might be a different scene at night. There is a diverse ethnicity in SP so no problem for you.

6. Read about safety. Any precautions to take apart from avoiding mobile phones in streets.

The first time I was in Brazil, I used a burner phone in Rio, but after a couple days I just use my normal phone because I felt it was safer than Colombia and SP was even safer than Rio so I never use the burner phone again in Brazil. But to each his own.

7. Any suggestions for Clinicas open on Sundays? Tangara and Prime.

My suggestions is ask the clinicas using WhatsApps for daily updates. They post who is working that day and the hours. You can book appt thru whatsapp as well.

[Turgid]

Since it is so quiet here. I will add some comments.

It depends. Medellin has much larger daytime scene. The main difference to me and why SP is far superior is the service level and cleanness of the rooms when we are comparing places similar to clinicas. In most places in Medellin, you won't get DFK or kissing, BBBJ at all without an upcharge. DFK or kissing is difficult to get or not very good. The rooms are often nasty by clinica standard. I think not changing sheets between session is normal. You may not have hot water. Some higher price ones may change sheet but I could never tell. There is only one that I have been to that I saw the girl change sheet like the clinica and I have been to many but this one has a shared bathroom so still not perfect. More money may not buy you more service without upcharge. The one that charge more than clinica has the most limited service but they do have best looking girls on average. There are exceptions to the generalization of service above but the rooms are usually bad that some mongers simply won't enjoy that environment.

If you like Rio Centro, then Medellin will be paradise to you if you have enough time. The key is you need time to gain experience to get what you want while everything in Brazil is somewhat automatic.

Based on the above, I would say for short stay Brazil is better because it's far less effort for newbies. But other experienced members that I also respect have said if differently. One has to decide what is more important and I hope this will help you make an informed decision.

Medellin's only advantage is that its cheaper.

[SocratesNY]

I too go to Scandallo, but more for the atmosphere of a high end club with the possibility of bedding someone. I actually go and often spend 200 USA on drinks / food. I go thinking I won't session.

Haha. I've finally reached that same point. After 50+ trips to Scandallo, one of my recent trips there ended with me leaving with a big consumption bills (which is the norm) and empty balls (a first at Scandallo! Thank God I've recently branched out of my comfort zone and experienced Casarao, which allowed my evening and morning to end on a high note.

Friday woke up with hangover and thought I needed to take a night off. Went to a local club promising myself to drink water. An hour later. Drinking beer. Hooked up with a cutie and she promised a good time. But two other local guys convinced me to leave the place and go to another club with them. I know, sounds like a bad idea and I declined. Got one of their WhatsApp numbers and about 15 minutes after they left, got a text. Come to the club, ALOT better woman.

I had a few similar experiences with local guys, but at Scandallo rather than a local club. I passed each time, as I was either waiting on a friend or out of sense of caution. Did get some contact info. And they told me to hit them up whenever I am next in town and wanted to hang and some wingmen (they were all in groups of 3 to 5). I would have taken them up on their offer, but my subsequent trips were all with friends who took up my time.

Damn, struck gold. Walked in and 25 woman maybe 10 guys. I immediately spot my type of gal but just smile and promise myself to look around for 15 minutes. I like the model type body. There were at least 4 that were 8's and 1 TALL asian looking beauty I would rate a 9. Dressed in long elegant gown with heals. She was sitting with a guy so I scratched her off list. I went back to the lady dressed in a shorter leather skirt and grey high heals. Damn. Solid 8. Local guy came over and because it was his birthday I offered him first dabs on her. She told him she preffered to have a drink with me.

Next 3 hours drank vodka mixed drinks with her. Birthday guy bought a bottle and asked me to join his party.

Brazilians are such friendly people! I've drank with many groups of locals when alone at Scandallo. Some were real spenders and they happily sharing their high end bottles going for R5 K to R8 K each. Other times when I was with friends, our two groups would form a big group and drink and talk about food, women, work, our travels and of course women!

Eventually this girl is cuddling, hand holding, rubbning my back. Pure GFE without the ball rubbing pse stuff many do in the clubs. Twice I have had girls reach into my pants. So I am getting drunk and in English I say, can I lick your face. Of course she doesn't understand but says NO. I laugh and repeat it. She asks for Google translator and I type in I am joking, but can I lick your face. She replies on the translator, can I lick your balls. Party until 4 am. Back to my room for 500 to her and exit fee. She goes to bathroom and comes out in neglige, stockings, heals. Fifteen minute strip TEASE. Full on sex for over an hour. Finally nutted on her face and wanted to sleep. She wanted more sex. Blew me for another 20 minutes trying to get round two out of me. She finally says she has to go home, no kids, but two dogs. Everytime she gets partially dressed she is stopping and blowing me in different positions. She tries to take off her clothes again but I convince her to go.

So those that are not getting GFE. It's you. I have my failures but the secret sauce is to have fun and get the girl to LIKE you. If you are a pretty boy and think that's all you need to get GFE. You are dead wrong. You might be able to get the 8's and 9's, but put time into them. Treat THEM like girlfriends and get to know THEM.

So TRUE! Showing a girl a good time and showing them respect gets you that back and then some!

I've had so many girls from Scandallo just don't want to leave and keep giving me pleasure. Some of the best ones were able to get me to perform like I was 25 again. I am usually a 1 and done guy, but a few Brazilian women were able to get me a 2nd pop right after the first. One magical unicorn got me to pop 3 x back to back to back.

Oh, the tall asain gal was free shortly after I had already invited my eventual girlfriend for the night to myntable. The tall japanese looking remained free all night. Damn I'll be back.

Which club am I speaking about? Not going to disclose. Don't stick to the well known clubs. Venture out. Be a person, not a sex hound. You will get your GFE mixed with PSE.

I would normally ask this via PM, but your mailbox is full!

I know you said you won't tell, but was it Liberal Club?

That was the one club that was mentioned a few times by different groups of guys at Scandallo that I drank with. They usually go to Scandallo to hang, drink and maybe get digits. Then usually head to Liberal Club or another local club to finish the night. I always found it amusing that they used Scandallo as a pre-game for a more local club. When I would think it would be the reverse!

Side note. I am 60 plus. I can do it. You can too.

Second side note. Hopefully won't start an unitended race debate, but overheard conversation by girls when a couoke of well dressed black gentleman walked in. They both said they won't go with negroe. Not sure how the black gentleman from Europe / USA are being treated in the clubs. Clinicas girls have no choice. But maybe being shunned in the clubs?

I've heard it all from working girls at Scandallo, either overheard or from girls I know or their friends. Some won't go with locals, some don't like darker skinned guys, others don't like young handsome guys, others don't like Asians, etc. Also heard the opposite as some prefer those kind of guys. All the girls have little cliques as well. Skinny girls hang with their own, curvy girls hang together, etc. And girls gossip like there is no tomorrow. Many look down at some girls that work at Casarao and other local clubs, and there is a cross-pollination of girls among various clubs.

I just don't pay them no mind. It's human nature. Everyone has their preference in terms of looks, etc. Some girls are more tactful and educated or well-mannered enough to keep those thoughts to themselves, but once they get comfortable with you, they let all those thoughts all hang loose! As I aint trying to marry them, I just shrug it off.

[SocratesNY]

Five months in South America. November '22 thru March '23.

These are simply my experiences and viewpoints. Your or others experiences may be completely different...

Great post man! I don't have much to add. For once you left me speechless!

Your sentiments regarding SP pretty much echoes my own. For my situation and hobbying style, SP is #1 for me though.

I get the same vibe about RJ as you, although like you, I've only had limited time there.

No comments on Medellin as I've never been there but I hear lots of great things from friends that have.

However, the time sink factor, to get similar service that I get with ease from Brasileras (whether pros or non-Pros), is one of the many reasons that I keep postponing my Colombian trips. I've found good GFE / PSE to be pretty much default among Brazilian women.

Your very balanced and descriptive post and similar hobbying outlook has made me read up on your previous adventures! Great reads!

[SocratesNY]

Hi, I am an Indian living in the US and visiting SP for 1 week for the first time. I have mongered in Hong Kong, Macau, Thailand, US and India.

Based on the previous posts and PMs, I have shortlisted: Scandello, Casarao, 57 Friends boates.

Clinicas: Lotus, Oro, Palms, Prime, Miruna, Tangara, Abbobara, Enjoy, Brooklin, Taj mahal.

Can you please help me with the following*?

Normally, I would not reply to your post as all the info. Have been covered by posters within the last 6 months to year. But you have obviously done a bit of RTFF to come up with some options that fits your style. I know it can be daunting to go through lots of pages of find the info. You want, but here are some tips for searching, as well as some concise answers to your questions. For more in-depth answers, you will have to do more research / RTFF.

Searching:

1) Read the reports of distinctions thread. It has lots of great contributions by BMs.

2) Search by posts by specific posters that have posted things that you find useful / agree with (as that means you have similar tastes / hobbying styles).

I know I've personally covered most, if not all, of your questions in my previous posts, sometimes in my reports, sometimes in sort of mini-guides / overall take ways from a trip. Same has been done by countless other BMs.

Even if you just quickly scan / scroll through the posts, you can easily find more detailed posts that fits those two criterias and stop and jot down notes.

1. Planning to use Google Fi sim. Is it reliable?

Yes.

2. Always use Uber. Anything to be aware of?

Use Uber black to save time.

3. Checked google images and they don't have name*boards for Clinicas. Are they easy to find? Also if Clinicas close 9 they take last apnt at 9 or 8 ?

Usually closing time is closing time so 1 hour before if you want an 1 hour session. But sometimes they do take last appointment at closing time. Send them a whatsapp to inquire.

4. Will be roaming alone. Any issues with Indian ethnicity in roads, clubs and clinicas?

My Indian friends didn't notice much ethnic bias during their travels. In fact, most thrived in SP and had experiences that most would kill for. With that said, YMMV. It depends on how your present and carry yourself. Also depends which part of town, which club and which clinica or girl. Too general of a question to answer.

5. No portuguese. Is a translator*app enough?

Yes. But again YMMV. Depends on the part of town, the venue, the girl, etc. But knowing even know simple greetings and common tourist questions can go far. It shows respect toward the place and people are you visiting. And usually you get the same respect back.

6. Read about safety. Any precautions to take apart from avoiding mobile phones in streets.

Avoid sketchy parts of town, pay attention to your surroundings, Uber from place to place, avoid walking alone at night, etc. But even all of those precautions can still get you pinched. Just part of life. You can take extra precautions by carrying a hobby phone you don't care about, don't carry too much cash, and carry just 1 ATM card and 1 CC.

7. Any suggestions for Clinicas open on Sundays? Tangara and Prime.

Both are open as well as Miruna. Tangara is especially popular on Sundays and have a big roster on Sundays it seems. As it caters to more blue collar locals and bargain hunters.

[ThisOneFs1]

Hi, I am an Indian living in the US and visiting SP for 1 week for the first time. I have mongered in Hong Kong, Macau, Thailand, US and India.

Based on the previous posts and PMs, I have shortlisted: Scandello, Casarao, 57 Friends boates.

Clinicas: Lotus, Oro, Palms, Prime, Miruna, Tangara, Abbobara, Enjoy, Brooklin, Taj mahal.

Can you please help me with the following*?

1. Planning to use Google Fi sim. Is it reliable?

2. Always use Uber. Anything to be aware of?

3. Checked google images and they don't have name*boards for Clinicas. Are they easy to find? Also if Clinicas close 9 they take last apnt at 9 or 8 ?

4. Will be roaming alone. Any issues with Indian ethnicity in roads, clubs and clinicas?

5. No portuguese. Is a translator*app enough?

6. Read about safety. Any precautions to take apart from avoiding mobile phones in streets.

7. Any suggestions for Clinicas open on Sundays? Tangara and Prime.

[KcDark]

One has to decide what is more important and I hope this will help you make an informed decision.

This is profound to me. I like this statement.

For me, the culture of SP and probably Brazil at large fits my style. We can appreciate that a place may not be to our liking based on so many factors and go with it. As an example, some guys LOVE Montreal to hobby, while others prefer Germany, etc. And that is all okay. At the end of the day, you have to go with what makes you satisfied with the experience you invested in.

[Nounce]

...Daytime talent. SP has Medellin beat hands down on daytime places to visit.....

Since it is so quiet here. I will add some comments.

It depends. Medellin has much larger daytime scene. The main difference to me and why SP is far superior is the service level and cleanness of the rooms when we are comparing places similar to clinicas. In most places in Medellin, you won't get DFK or kissing, BBBJ at all without an upcharge. DFK or kissing is difficult to get or not very good. The rooms are often nasty by clinica standard. I think not changing sheets between session is normal. You may not have hot water. Some higher price ones may change sheet but I could never tell. There is only one that I have been to that I saw the girl change sheet like the clinica and I have been to many but this one has a shared bathroom so still not perfect. More money may not buy you more service without upcharge. The one that charge more than clinica has the most limited service but they do have best looking girls on average. There are exceptions to the generalization of service above but the rooms are usually bad that some mongers simply won't enjoy that environment.

If you like Rio Centro, then Medellin will be paradise to you if you have enough time. The key is you need time to gain experience to get what you want while everything in Brazil is somewhat automatic.

Based on the above, I would say for short stay Brazil is better because it's far less effort for newbies. But other experienced members that I also respect have said if differently. One has to decide what is more important and I hope this will help you make an informed decision.

[Nounce]

The Casarao doorman often insisted I should stay inside the club gate while calling an Uber. He meant if I stood out on the pavement working my Samsung Z-fold it would soon get snatched.

That are is not unsafe because there are business open all night. The phone snatchers are usually on bicycle so that is what one has to look out for no matter where you are. It has happened to me near Repulbica twice on sidewalk. Once late at night, once at busy daytime hour right in front of the large Bradsco branch office. They would try to surprise you and snatch something even when there is nothing obvious they can take.

[XXL]

... Casarao is the only one of the big three that presents any danger, and even then it is minimal. I've found that the street around the club is pretty wild, and Ubers will often drop off or pick up on the opposite side of the street, potentially leaving you exposed.
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The Casarao doorman often insisted I should stay inside the club gate while calling an Uber. He meant if I stood out on the pavement working my Samsung Z-fold it would soon get snatched.

[HiddenEye]

Great report Jet69, congrats for the long trip.

Any place will show its true colors after the third consecutive visit, and of course they are women and men from the night life. Heavy vibe is common.

Something that nobody mentioned or only happened to me in Scandallo. I shared drinks with a transexuals / ladyboy few years ago in a Scandallo table.

I called her / him to my table because she / he was tall and had this impresive athlete model type body. But the donkey jaw and the apple in the throat while talking, so I left after a few minutes.

And I can prove it by PM!

Five months in South America. November '22 thru March '23.

Scandallo opens much earlier and is less expensive to enter early. I have read the reports of amazing talent at Scandallo. Initially that first moment is WOW. That will wear off after a dozen visits. The number of girls on site at peak time is in the 100's. But there will usually be as many men on site. I have seen fat, ugly and fat and ugly woman walking around. Not all are goddesses. With that said, you should find your type. After dozens of visits it got old for me. As others have said you go for the "experience". Can't agree more.

[HappyGoLucky13]

I like to thank everyone who contributed to this forum for helping me with my trip back to Brazil.

After being away from Brazil for 15 years I had a wonderful experience seeing people.

I have not seen in 15 years or had any contact with them and meeting people for.

The first time and the country itself going back down memory lane.

Why did it take me 15 years to get back to a country that showed me so much love is a question that should be answered.

And I will if the ISG will allow me to when I share my experience about traveling.

Around the world playing this lovely game we called SEX I first like to give back to what was so freely given to me.

I like to share my experience in São Paulo. I was there for two weeks I originally was planning to be there for three weeks.

But I stayed longer in Rio because I needed to see some people I have not seen or contacted in 15 years.

The time I was in São Paulo I went to scandals everyday and visited Casarao one day and left and went to scandal and one day went to café photo.

And left and went to scandals so what I have to contribute to this magnificent forum is my SCANDAL experience.

I left São Paulo March 20, I'm still coming down from my experience in Brazil please forgive me but not all the information.

I received in Brazil was good information because I lived in Brazil for 5 years and some of the information I received about people who I.

Love and loved me are not here with us today so please give me just a little time to share with me my Scandal experience.

I like to thank the ISG forum again for your excellent service on helping me return to Brazil.

[JZeleznik]

My plan is to mostly go to clubs but given I am avoiding alcohol and don't have anyone else to go to clubs with.
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I am staying for a month in an Airbnb so looking for overnights as well.

Is it safe to do it at Airbnbs?

As someone who travels alone most of the time, typically I actually prefer it. Groups of guys tend to invite groups of girls, which means you can get stuck talking to someone you don't want. I'd also imagine women are less likely to come down on price in front of their peers. I enjoy drinking with friends, but picking up women isn't something I like to mix with that. Also while I don't get sloppy drunk at the clubs, I've never felt uncomfortable having 3-4 drinks while I hangout.

The large clubs are very safe, and even the small ones tend to be in my experience. At Scandallo and Bomboa you are picked up and dropped off in a secure spot. Casarao is the only one of the big three that presents any danger, and even then it is minimal. I've found that the street around the club is pretty wild, and Ubers will often drop off or pick up on the opposite side of the street, potentially leaving you exposed.

For your Airbnb, like another poster mentioned as long as you have a desk it should be very safe. Best of luck!

[Jet69]

Five months in South America. November '22 thru March '23.

These are simply my experiences and viewpoints. Your or others experiences may be completely different.

Background so it puts things in perspective. Well traveled and well experienced in our sport. Wrong side of 60, I do not speak conversational Spanish and speak almost no Portuguese. I stay in Airbnb's that allow guests. I have been traveling to Colombia for (guessing) 10 years. I have made 3 extended trips to Brazil in the past year. Spent 2 two months in Medellin, then flew to Sao Paulo for 2 months, then back to Medellin for 3 weeks. I prefer to spend time with my dates rather than the 1 hour quick appointments. I don't disregard the quick smash altogether, but longer encounters are my preference.

Medellin: Yes, it's changed dramatically over the past 10 years with the influx of tourist and like minded hobbyist. I see the criticisms of Medellin and certainly agree with many. Medellin now takes a bit more effort than it did in years prior, but should hardly be passed over as a destination. The first time visitor may initially be disappointed with the immediate availability of talent. However, with effort on Facebook, there is a treasure trove of young talented woman. There are still many point and shoot options in Medellin, but not nearly as many as before. Not looking for any arguments, but in my opinion, Medellin is the place to go if you are searching for the more part-time 18-25 year old talent.

My current Facebook ({which is dedicated to Medellin only) has me at 3700 "friends". I have accumulated those over the past 10 years. I have around 5 male friends and the rest are. Talent. I have no idea how many of those are still active. But my point is, amass a friends list and the talent you will be rewarded with will be outstanding. No, I won't share my Facebook with anyone.

Medellin is also, in my opinion, much less expensive than Sao Paulo. I have not experienced enough of Rio yet to give a complete comparison point of view. Rio was initially off my list, but after a brief visit in February, I will return!

I spent most of my time with a 21 year old over the months I was in Medellin. Met her on Facebook of course. Had no other gringo "friends" on Facebook. For those that like the big butts, big boobs, she would not be your type. Other than having the typical Colombian look, I would describe her as having more of an Asian (Thai) body. The girl loves to give head. We'll be out in a restaurant or mall and she'll say in English, I want to suck you. Oh, and yes, she is attractive in my opinion. Very attractive. For comparison, I spent a lot of time in Sao Paulo. I have spent many nights in the top clubs. She would easily be in the top 10% of the talent pool at Scandallo.

Bottom line, if you are not getting the performance you want in Colombia, you are not putting in the effort. You will not get the GFE / PSE performance of the hard core workers, but the hidden talent is amazing. I suspect with some effort and after a few trips you too will have a talent pool worth returning to over and over.

Sao Paulo: I was there in January and February. Met some decent like minded travelers but didn't get to hang out with them much.

I have a lot to say about Sao Paulo but will keep it brief. I again prefer the longer "dates".

First, Sao Paulo (SP from now on) is much more expensive than Medellin.

The talent pool in SP is wide a varied, however in MY experience the talent is both thicker in body type and mostly 25 and older. YES, there are younger and thinner gals, but overall that's my viewpoint. In fact the woman on twitter often post work out routines and they include squatting. They tend to want the thicker upper legs and thicker butts.

Daytime talent. SP has Medellin beat hands down on daytime places to visit. However, walking into these places does not guarantee you finding a gal of your taste. SP is a big city and with that there many guys in these places. Often the roster will have 10-15 girls working, with only a few available at any given moment. Daytime places can be inexpensive, but you will need to hunt. Someone mentioned Club 57 recently. In my opinion the girls were average at best. Never saw that girl I had to have. Was always approached by the aggressive ones. Hard to get rid of at times. Never sessioned there but hung out some nights just to have an early evening beer. Beers were about $6.00 USA.

Night time clubs generally get going around midnight.

Scandallo opens much earlier and is less expensive to enter early. I have read the reports of amazing talent at Scandallo. Initially that first moment is WOW. That will wear off after a dozen visits. The number of girls on site at peak time is in the 100's. But there will usually be as many men on site. I have seen fat, ugly and fat and ugly woman walking around. Not all are goddesses. With that said, you should find your type. After dozens of visits it got old for me. As others have said you go for the "experience". Can't agree more.

Casarao It's actually, what I was told, was the first night club of it's type in SP. I visited often because of it's low entrance fee. Through out the night the ratio of men to woman would vary. The girls will dress a bit more conservative (less formal). I suspect those guys that visit the place on a two week or less time span will see what they like. I however totally disagree with the ratio of men to woman. Frequently I saw the ratio of men to woman greater than 3-1, men to woman. I went on a Saturday night and at 1 am the place was packed with easily 5-1 men to woman. Granted, there are guys that just come in groups to have a beer and clog up the place, but they are still occupying the girls with small talk.

I hit several other clubs, all of which have been mentioned over and over. Prices are negotiable in the night time clubs.

I found my two favorites and paid them $200 USA For the night. Spent many days / nights with both. I used to like "the hunt". Now I prefer dinner, drinks, Netflix and that morning shag.

There are some "locals" clubs in the seedy areas of the city. I don't have names or addresses at hand, but if you have a wingman who speaks Porto, worth exploring. Just Uber to the front door and Uber out the front door. One club not mentioned much anymore is Connections. It's a long ass Uber ride at night so I never went. Next trip I will get a hotel close by and spend the night in the area. Heard it's owned by same person as Scandallo, so may have some hidden talent from the local area.

Did a side trip to Iguazo Falls. Spent three nights to do the tourist thing. I didn't think there would be any decent talent in the local clubs and waited until the last night to visit Crystals Club. There are 2 other clubs in the smaller city per an Uber driver. I arrived at Crystals around 9 if my memory serves me. 20-25 woman and 2 or 3 guys. Got approached by of course the less attractive gals but damn, there were 2 or 3 hot gals in the club. I was smitten and I had just spent tow months in Medellin and a month in SP. I was in the mood to do some drinking and partying so ended up doing just that with a few of the talent. Never got around to sampling anything. One girl topped anything in Scandallo. She made her availability known to me on several close encounter walk-bys, but I was usually engaged with another. Two or 3 spoke English. They have an amazing outside area with a pool to take your prospect out to and drink / negotiate. On Saturday's they have "pool" day where the girls apparently are in swimwear.

I strongly considered flying back for a few days but never did. The ratio of men / woman never got over 2 woman for every 1 guy. Much better than anything in SP. I certainly could have gotten lucky on my one visit to the place with the talent being outstanding. So if you happen to go, it was just the one visit.

Rio. I only spent two nights there right after the Carnival ended. It was peaceful and a fantastic change from the big urban cement city of SP. I will return to explore. I actually took my favorite gal from SP to Rio. Wanted a (pretty) wingman to do the tourist stuff. Paid her $100 USA Per day plus food / drinks / tourist crap of course. Worth every cent. She is considered thin in Brazil, model type body. Tall and without curves. Long legged like I like. Her body type is far and few in SP.

Bottom line. My opinion. For shorter trips and with some effort Medellin is still the go to place. SP is that much more time to get to and much more expensive. I saw guys throwing some serious cash around in Medellin and they certainly had the talent paying attention. My gut feeling is Rio has a lot more to do during the day when you are not chasing tail. Darker skinned gals are more available. Was having my morning coffee at Starbucks and an obvious working girl was observed leaving an apartment next door. A drop dead 10. Dark skinned, model thin, gorgeous. OMG hot. Rio is high on my next trip.

I am open to private messages. I don't often check the website so forgive me if I don't answer quickly.

Please, I'm not looking for arguments. It's about each of our experiences. You may be Bratt Pitt in appearance with a boat-load of cash. I care for myself but can't reverse the aging process. I have enough disposable cash to enjoy almost any of the talent in any of the places.

Excuse any typos or grammatical errors please.

[WyattEarp]

My plan is to mostly go to clubs but given I am avoiding alcohol and don't have anyone else to go to clubs with.

I am staying for a month in an Airbnb so looking for overnights as well.

Is it safe to do it at Airbnbs?

Going to the clubs by yourself can be a great experience. Many are forced out of their comfort zone. You focus your attention on interacting with the girls and watching the scene.

Now that's not to say, it isn't fun to hang with other guys at a boate (club). However, with my crew that tends to break down as soon as we start heading to the rooms. As the evening progresses we're totally engrossed in the women and scouting out more. One time my buddy said, it's our last night. Let's have a nice dinner, relax and hang before we pursue women. That plan went to shit when the first hottie came over and started flirting with one of our crew.

As far as safety of an Airbnb, I would say you should focus on booking a place that has a reception desk in the building. Nobody goes in without being invited by a resident. That's very common in Sao Paulo. When you're in your place with the girl, you have to exercise common sense as you would anywhere in the world. Don't leave valuables out, etc.