Sao Paulo Reports

[SocratesNY]

Do you think you miss anything if you just found out about MDE now? If you only use SA, you will see the price increase earlier than most.

Perhaps I am dense, but this post like your previous post is quite cryptic and doesn't explain what is currently so unique and good about Medellin.

[SocratesNY]

I too prefer the diversity of Brazil. What is going on in Medellin in this period of time is unique, and we don't know how long it would last. The Brazilian girls will likely still be available years from now, just like the disappearance of Hope diad not change that.

What is so unique about the current hobbying situation in Medellin? Is the invasion of Venes due to the political crisis across the border providing a lot of hot women at cheap pricing? Is the recent reported sharp uptick in druggings / crimes against hobbyists all fake news? Are there new rules, regulations or lifting of prohibitions that has enhanced the mongering scene there? Are you referring to the weak COP vs. Western currency?

I am truly curious what you mean, as you seem to imply that there are unique forces at play currently that make Medellin specifically, and maybe also Colombia in general, more preferable to Brazil for mongers at the moment. Maybe I'm overlooking something when I decided to temporarily suspend plans to visit Colombia and focus all my available hobbying time and resources in Brazil until the Real strengthens a lot vs. The Dollar. FYI, I've also decided to suspend visiting European hobbying scenes from FKKs to Spanish brotherls and SE Asian venues (Bangkok, Jakarta, etc.). All of which I've visited in the past couple of years, as the degradation of their respective hobbying scenes in terms of either value / pricing and / or service levels just doesn't make them preferable to Brazil.

I've NEVER mongered in Colombia. I have friends that go down to CTG, MDE and BOG often pre-pandemic and sang Colombia's praises. They tell me there are logistic hurdles to overcome, as most hotels, especially in CTG, are not girl friendly. You would need to usually find a guest friendly Airbnb. They also say crime against hobbyist are more prevalent than other Latin American venues, from Tijuana to Mexico City to DR to Costa Rica. In certain cities (specifically CTG, you have to deal with the annoying tutes).

They also tell me that there are many hobbying venues to choose, from online options, puta / indy night clubs, strip clubs, street girls, casa, etc. They say there is a big online scene, usually Tinder, Facebook and the like. The club scene has more gringo tourist pricing and the service levels are more restrictive. The casas are usually in more seedier neighborhoods and rooms are basic and girls are sometimes from the bottom of the barrel. They tell me getting some GFE services, that are basically standard in most western hobbying venues (US, Canada and Europe), like BBBJ and DFK have to be negotiated and often times a firm "no" is still given, especially at the higher end venues. But if you take the time find the right girl (s) or spend the time weeding out the non-GFE girls, you can have a great time.

Even with all the above, they still love Colombia due to the hot Colombian and Venezuelan women, the strong dollar vs. COP. They tell me it's a great place to visit as a group of friends for hobbying, as the group dynamic negates most of the logistical obstacles, pitfalls, dangers and cons of the Colombian hobbying scene. Flights are plentiful and cheap and flight distance isn't too long from most of the US. There are lots of great places to eat that doesn't burn a hole in your wallet. And Spanish, which is more taught and known in the US, is spoken.

However, they did warn me that new solo or smaller groups traveling there will have to be more wary, as it takes more preparation, more research, etc. To have a successful trip. Colombia is not as easy to hobby in as some of the point and shoot hobbying destinations such as DR or CR (I would also now add Brazil as well, but my friends and I hadn't been there pre-pandemic), especially for a 1 week or less trip and you are used to the amenities from staying at nice hotels.

So based on the above, the significant increase in crime against hobbyists and my friends not planning to visit Colombia anytime soon (one of the reason is that they discovered Brazil during the Pandemic! I've put Colombia on hold. After discovering the wonders of Brazil, I can't imagine myself choosing to go to Colombia over Brazil as long as the BRL remains above 4. 0 vs. 1 USD.

I've found Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro to be have a huge and diverse hobbying scene. Everything that is available in Colombia is available in Brazil, but larger, more diverse, more robust and more developed. The STANDARD / BASE and AVERAGE service levels of the Brazilian garotas blow Colombian chicas away.

You don't need to do a lot of prep work and invest time in the online game in Brazil to have a good GFE session at value pricing in Brazil, but you can if you wish to, as there tons of options via online escorts, SA / MP, Tinder, Twitter, etc.

The boates and termas in Brazil blow the night clubs / strip clubs in Colombia out of the water (according to my friends who have been to both). They don't have the same gringo tourist trap vibe, as the ones in Brazil mostly caters to the local, both white and blue collar. They tell me any of the top 5 clubs mentioned in this forum (Scandallo, Caf Photo, Bomboa, Connection and Casarao) are better than those found in Colombia.

The clinicas / massage scene is also more robust than the casa scene in Colombia. You can go from cheap prive to normal clinicas to high end massage place in Brazil, all with higher average service level than Colombia casas and at the high end place in Brazil, you will receive a near guaranteed GFE level of services with top end girls.

I won't compare the hotness of Brazilian women vs. Colombian / Venezuelan women, as that's highly subjective. I'll just say that I find top end women from all 3 countries to be super hot! However, Brazil definitely has more diversity due to its immigration history, as you can find girls with Irish, Germanic, Nordic, Western and Eastern European, Slavic, Italian, Asian, Latin African and Indian / Indigenous looks pretty easily in Sao Paulo. It's almost like Dubai in a way, but the talent is generally local to Brazil, rather than imported from abroad.

I also love that 99% of the hotels in Sao Paulo are girl friendly, from the cheap places up to luxury 5 star hotels. That is not the case in Colombia, especially in Cartagena. That makes overnights at your own place challenging unless you get a guest friendly Airbnb, which lacks many of the amenities, convenience and safety elements provided by hotels. They also love the diverse love motel scene in Sao Paulo with high end places like Lush, Asturias and others.

One of the most important considerations for most hobbyist is the cost and value of the hobbying scene in the country they plan to visit. With the Real so weak vs. Western currencies, pricing is very comparable to Colombia, which also is weak vs. Western currencies. The caveat is that while both are weak, Colombia has had a higher inflation rate over the last 4-5 years compared to Brazil. The COP also has been weak vs. Western currencies for what seems like forever. The weakness of the Brazilian real is pretty recent and might not last.

You can currently find cheap $15-25 USD fucks in Brazil at Prives / clinicas just like you can at casas in Colombia. The club girls in Colombia seems to ask for $75 to 125 USD for a ST fuck and $150 to $300 for LT / overnights. Same as you can find in Brazil. I'm sure some will say their regulars are cheaper, or if you put in the time, you can find better bargains / value, but that can be said of both countries. In any event, I am going by what my friends tell me the current rate is and also from what I've seen posted when I check the Colombia boards semi-regularly. They also say that the online options have very comparable in pricing. One other comment they made is that the gringos / tourists actually have more of an impact on the mongering pricing and the availability of girls in Colombia as compared to Brazil, especially in Cartagena, which has either balanced the two countries and sometimes even tipped it in Brazil's favor, especially with the weak Real.

They do say food is a little cheaper in Colombia and Colombian hotel prices hasn't gone up post-pandemic at the same rate as SP and RJ.

But probably the most important thing for me is the service level of the girls. They all say they were blown away by the near universal passion and love making skills of Brazilian women. They all claim that on average, Brazilian women beats Colombian and Venezuelan working girls in the bed room. Sure, the best of the best from all 3 countries could be a tie or close to each other, but we are talking about average or general expected service level. You rarely have to negotiate regular GFE service (DFK, BBBJ, DATY, etc.) in Brazil and anal is often offered and requested by the girl without you asking. All without a surcharge! After over 125 punts with over 75 different Brazilian women, I concur whole heartedly. I've not had the same high average level of service anywhere else in the world and I've mongered in Canada, US, Mexico, most of Western Europe and some of Eastern Europe, SE and East Asia and Australia, and many of those spots within the past 3-4 years. Brazilian women are a killer combo of hot and diverse looks (especially that incredible bunda from the slim all the way up to the curvy an) and amazing service in the sack.

As I said, I've never been to Colombia, so these are the opinions of my friends who are experienced in Colombia and finally discovered Brazil during and post pandemic. Almost all of them would now choose Brazil over Colombia.

For a newbie or short term visitor, I don't see how the current situation in Colombia beats Brazil when everything is considered. The only advantages I see are 1) flight time 2) flight cost 3) You speak Spanish and 4) you take month + long trips or is a digital nomad and plan to spend lots of time in country and prefers Airbnbs to hotels.

Therefore, TLDR: What is so unique about Medellin at the moment to make it better than Brazil? I actually think it's the reverse, as the extremely weak Real vs. Historical norms make Brazil the UNIQUE situation and you should go before that goes away. The Colombian women and the historically weak COP will still be there down the road.

[Nounce]

What's going on in Medellin right now that is unique? Apart from the prices going up and tons of gringos in town?

Do you think you miss anything if you just found out about MDE now? If you only use SA, you will see the price increase earlier than most.

[MiamiBoy1]

I too prefer the diversity of Brazil. What is going on in Medellin in this period of time is unique, and we don't know how long it would last. The Brazilian girls will likely still be available years from now, just like the disappearance of Hope did not change that.

What's going on in Medellin right now that is unique? Apart from the prices going up and tons of gringos in town?

[Nounce]

I wish I could monger more in Brazil, but I don't speak Porto, Brazil is more difficult and expensive to get to, the cost of living, especially in SP and Rio is higher, and summer time is too hot and humid. This is why I prefer cooler parts Colombia. But from a pure mongering perspective, Brazil wins. Hotter girls of all types and shapes, and better performance in bed (YMMV though).

I too prefer the diversity of Brazil. What is going on in Medellin in this period of time is unique, and we don't know how long it would last. The Brazilian girls will likely still be available years from now, just like the disappearance of Hope did not change that.

[Rahsta]

Are spots open in Sao Paulo during Easter weekend (Friday, Saturday)? I plan on going on around Easter.

[JZeleznik]

I tipped my host R50 before I left, but was surprised to see a 15% service charge on the bill. As SP doesn't have a tipping culture, I wonder if they also do that to the locals. I mentioned I already took care of my host with a cash tip, but they still insisted as this service charge was for the whole service staff team.

I'm honestly very surprised to hear that based on my experiences. The first time my host asked about the tip and suggested numbers of 10%, 15%, or 20% as examples it was very much phrased as a question. After that first time he always brought up the tip when settling the bill, but never again mentioned any specific numbers. As I mentioned in his case the money was well earned, but it definitely felt optional.

[Rahsta]

Is Easter big holiday in Brazil? I plan on going on around Easter.

[Rahsta]

Have a look. You can see a pool table in one of these and some games in another. Also some garotas who aren't atypical for Scandallo:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xOb...ist=LL&index=2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdhY...ist=LL&index=3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJuV...ist=LL&index=1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEV5...st=LL&index=10

Ok, Thats new. It wasnt there a year ago. Pinball machines are a different look.

[MiamiBoy1]

MB1 has been to both places and has very selective taste, where does he monger now?.

I wish I could monger more in Brazil, but I don't speak Porto, Brazil is more difficult and expensive to get to, the cost of living, especially in SP and Rio is higher, and summer time is too hot and humid. This is why I prefer cooler parts Colombia. But from a pure mongering perspective, Brazil wins. Hotter girls of all types and shapes, and better performance in bed (YMMV though).

[Nounce]

You mean in not checking out what Columbia is like today? Perhaps you are right, but I am enjoying my trips to Brazil so much that I can't seem to find the initiative to go anywhere else at the moment, not even to return to my beloved BKK, Phnom Penh, and Jakarta. ....

You are describing your state of mind that you had your regret. It's not a guarantee and it takes some time commitment and effort so I am not advising it.

I had plan to go to Asia but decided to stay put in SA again. I had enough SEA during Covid. I tapped into local scenes and I often got the first dip of new girls. I went to a hotel, and the agent let me see every room to interview to pick the girl while other can only see one assigned room at a time.

... I am also thinking of taking a 2 to 3 week road trip with Valerie, my Scandallo favorite girl....

Why only take one when you can take 2 or 3 and probably for free. hehehe.

[RonhinCruz]

I leave Brazil on a late flight today. Last weekend I made a second quick trip to Tangara and saw Carla. Shorty, curvy morena. She had a great attitude and provided good service. I would recommend. $R140 for the hour. Brazil. Spent the week in Camboriú and Curtiba but didn't session. I wish I had gone to Evidence in Curtiba based on a recommendation from someone I met in Tanagra. Also, funny. In Tantara there was a 85 year old guy with a walker and whom I assume with his son there to get serviced. Nice.

Last night I decided to make one last run and my friend ultimately decided he didn't want to go anywhere. So I decided to just quickly hit Casarao. With two trips there it feels pretty familiar at this point. It was close to where we were staying near Sumaré metro. I had a bit of reals left to burn but set myself a $R500 limit that included anal and with a girl I wasn't settling for. Relatively easy parameters for Casarao.

Casarao as a vibe is really not my scene so I tend to want to just get in, find a girl and get out. I treat it almost like a CLínica but insist on a drink with the girl first to check the vibe. As soon as I entereted and wandered downstairs for my G&T I had one girl approach but not my type or standard. It's important to just politely decline and they move on fast. Two more girls approached and same thing. I am not seeing anything that I like but the girls circulate fast and it's only just before midnight. Lots of new arrivals. I make a couple of rounds and hang out by the door hoping to maybe just jump on a a new (re) entering girl. Nothing. Back downstairs. And a girl that had caught my attention on the way up because she looked like a serious gym girl is still there. She is wearing skin tight white pants and a halter top that show off her athletic physique. I decide to take a closer look. Sure enough she has the arms of someone that spends regular time in the gym and the stomach is flat and flawless. I offer her a drink. She gets coconut water. Because she explains she is a serious gym girl. She has video of herself squatting and deadlifting that create the ass she wasn't born with. The only thing I don't like are the bolt-ONS. I really prefer natural girls no matter the size. She circulates between Connections, Scandallo and Casarao. I could see that. She isn't the model type but she puts in the work. She is probably busy at Casarao and Connections and finds some people at Scandallo from time to time who want a toned girl. She is fine with the patter but definitely wants to get to the room. Ok I don't want to hang in Casarao either. I ask her price. $R700. I counter with $400 willing to settle for my $R500 with anal. She says $R500. Ok with anal. No anal is $R650. I order a second drink. I know she wants to go to the room. I make. My offer again $R500 with anal. She accepts immediately. We finish our drinks.

Only a short wait in the line. I think I have the best looking girl there at the moment. We chat some more which as others mentioned gives an opportunity to work on the vibe just a little. Take advantage. The girls are people and a bit of warming up and connection go a long way. I always want to just be their favorite customer of the night.

In the room the clothes come off and yeah she is a gym girl. Attitude is warm. I give her a couple of pointers about what I like, order etc. I find with these girls who see customers regularly it's best to just lay out any preferences. It helps everything go smoothly and if you have a girl who wants to please you are helping her out so she doesn't have to guess. (I do this differently with SA girls or infrequent semi-pros etc.).

Two things were great about the session. I like DATY with a girl that relaxes into it. I know when they are faking most of the time and I know it takes some time. She was one of my top DATY experiences in a long time. She had this amazing clit that just went erect and was super sensitive. You can't fake that. It was a playground. I burn 20-30 minutes no joke on it and am happy to do so. She looks down and says "it's so big" multiple times, referring to her clit in a refreshing twist in the normal use of the phrase. She orgasms twice maybe 3 times. She wants to fuck and she just goes straight for the ass with her in top. And after she gets warmed up she is just pounding me with her ass using those toned legs of hers. This is clearly an easy leg day for her. Only the sight of her fake tits were less than perfect. I am lasting a long time in her ass after the warm up but she is determined to get me to nut in her ass. She succeeds. I am happy. I was planning on getting a nice blow job for the second nut but time is sort of coming up and my friend had decided to wait up for me. So I call this a win. She heads back down to clearly find another client. I head out with about $150 spent doing two things I love with a 24 yr gym girl. Casarao. Brazil.

[Axel Heyst]

Is it possible you are repeating the same mistake? You know what I mean. Hehehe.

You mean in not checking out what Columbia is like today? Perhaps you are right, but I am enjoying my trips to Brazil so much that I can't seem to find the initiative to go anywhere else at the moment, not even to return to my beloved BKK, Phnom Penh, and Jakarta. I keep putting off my return trip to SE Asia in favor of more time in Brazil. My latest travel idea is a 3-month super trip from MIA to GRU to BKK to CGK to MIA. I am also thinking of taking a 2 to 3 week road trip with Valerie, my Scandallo favorite girl, up the Brazilian coast. I think that trip would be a lot of fun, but first I want to see how she does on our 2nd road trip, this time to Ilhabela in May.

[Nounce]

. In fact, my only regret looking back was that I did not check out Brazil in the 1980'...

Is it possible you are repeating the same mistake? You know what I mean. Hehehe.

[Axel Heyst]

Waste of space. I liked it back when they had the lounge / seating area there.

Yeah, me too. I liked that couch. I auditioned some of my favorite girls on it, but I also like the adjacent bar / outdoor courtyard except on chilly rainy nights.