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[Sui Generis]

In my mind Moema is better than Jardins or any other locations in Sampa. It's « far » from centro only if you need to hobby down there. Bu why hobby down there? There's everything in Moema. By eveything I mean privês, swing clubs, boates. You're close to Cafe Photo or other places in the same category.

If you prefer to hobby in Vila Mariana or Novo Brooklin (as I frequently do ) you're close to these bairros.

Like Jardins, a lot of garotas live in Moema (especially in the Sonesta on Ibirapuera Blvd.).

The bairro is quiet (it's the prominent aspect of this hood). You can walk at night without danger.

The only problem is when you try to get out of the hood at rush hours.

It's a good spot to meet non pros. (My latest conquest was a book seller working near Praça dos Pombos and Nossa Senhora de Aparecida)

Of course, I'm not impartial. Sayng this I realze that I should keep my mouth shut because I wouldn't like to see too many gringos in my favorite playground. Lol...

[Albert Punter]

Will,

Attached is a file which shows location of various "bairros" mentioned by Prosal, so that you can have an idea of distances.

IMHO staying in Moema is not so dramatic as far as distances and taxi fares.
Many of the girls reside in Jardins, which is 20 R by taxi.
A ride between Moema and Centro can be 30 R and 25 minutes ?
Obviously I am considering night-time with no traffic.

Moema is an enjoyable neighborhood but rather remote ...if you stay in Moema and monger around Centro and Pinheiros taxis will cost you a little fortune. Better stay in Jardins.

You are right to have changed anyhow. Alphaville is a soulless gated condominums "city" with absolutely no options, 30 kms west !!

[Holefiller]

Ok so I understand this is not the best place to stay, but I have no choice.

Can anyone advise me as to best options for pay4play around (or within reasonable cab distance) from the Comfort Suites hotel here in Alphaville?

Brothels, clubs, massage, any help would be appreciated.

[Prosal]

Moema

Moema is an enjoyable neighborhood but rather remote ...if you stay in Moema and monger around Centro and Pinheiros taxis will cost you a little fortune. Better stay in Jardins.

You are right to have changed anyhow. Alphaville is a soulless gated condominums "city" with absolutely no options, 30 kms west !!

[Will Smith69]

Right decision to change your hotel, Alphaville is really away from everything.

Is there any special reason you decided to stay there. Maybe your business partners are located there? You may say I am curious.

Many years ago when my partners were located there I used to stay in Jardins.

I second what Bionicman suggested: Jardins and Moema are good areas.

jes exactly. Our partners have organiced this. But we can relocate so it would be better. So I understadn that if we relocate we should go for Jardins or Moema. Ok I will see if I finde a hotel there.

Thanks it is difficult to get all things sortet out.

I I am searching for the "places to go" you think I search for Jardins and Moema and I finde the right informations. Right.

So I try.

Thanks again!

[Albert Punter]

Right decision to change your hotel, Alphaville is really away from everything.
Is there any special reason you decided to stay there. Maybe your business partners are located there ? You may say I am curious.
Many years ago when my partners were located there I used to stay in Jardins.

I second what Bionicman suggested: Jardins and Moema are good areas.

Thanks for the help albert,

My problem is that I do not understand sao paulo from the geografy. I stay in alphaville but from what I understand this is far far away from everything. I have the chance to change the hotel. So what can be a good location if I want to be "at the spot". I have read the froum, but I don't know what is the best place to Wstart" from.

Any help on this would be wonderfull.

Thanks!

Will

[BionicMan]

Thanks for the help albert,

My problem is that I do not understand sao paulo from the geografy. I stay in alphaville but from what I understand this is far far away from everything. I have the chance to change the hotel. So what can be a good location if I want to be "at the spot". I have read the froum, but I don't know what is the best place to Wstart" from.

Any help on this would be wonderfull.

Thanks!

Will

Quite some locations are good, certainly not Alphaville. Moema is an area sufficently central and so is Jardins.

[Will Smith69]

Escort services or prostitutes are legal here, no problem.

Also, as far as I know all hotels are girls friendly.

Furthermore, you may explain to the reception (most likely only to male staff) what is your need and they either show you a book from where you can choose a girl of your liking or can send a girl to your room (no obligation to buy).

Otherwise, tell us what catched your attention reading the forum and someone will surely help.

Thanks for the help albert,

My problem is that I do not understand sao paulo from the geografy. I stay in alphaville but from what I understand this is far far away from everything. I have the chance to change the hotel. So what can be a good location if I want to be "at the spot". I have read the froum, but I don't know what is the best place to Wstart" from.

Any help on this would be wonderfull.

Thanks!

Will

[Albert Punter]

I now realize that amount you had paid is about USD 80.
Far too much for an extra guest.
Even if you change from single occupancy to double occupancy, probably you don't pay such extra amount.
...
No, you don't even pay a difference at Sheraton.
Try to book a single or a double at that hotel and you will see rate is in both cases USD 310.

Yes, it definately was a 150 real fee. If I can find a copy of the receipt I will post.

[Ricker]

Sampa is the largest mongering place in the world. Surely, you will find what you like at a reasonable price .

Places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa, etc.(seems a new high end place opens every week) should be shunned. Their prices outweigh the quality and the service you will receive.

To find nice talent at reasonable pices, I suggest lower end tiers, such as Kilt, Vagao, etc. They both are located in Centro, Nestor Pestana (sp) street.
Any taxi would know these places.

I agree with this cat.

My girlfriend was out of town last week so I took a buddy of mine, new to the scene, out for a spin around Augusta.

A few places I like on Augusta: Maison, Caribe and Casarao.

These places can be hit and miss but I've found gems in all of them.
About 10R entrance and includes a beer or two.

My buddy found a pretty garota in Maison that he fell in love with.
She wanted 125R plus 20R for the room. With just a little fun and laughter, I easily got her down to 90R total for in-house service.

I met a couple cuties in Caribe, but this night I found my gem in Casarao.
Wow, she was a beautiful moreninha. Thin but curvy. Patricia.
After chatting a bit, she said she like to get 150R plus 25R for the room.
I told her, though she certainly deserved that much, I could only pay 80R plus 25R for the room. She was so pretty, I didn't even want to try and negotiate lower.
She said she was OK with that, so I paid at the front desk and up we went for fun.
Fantastic.

All in all, goes to show that in SP, you just don't have to break the bank for good fun.
Matter of fact, one of my favorite garotas I've met in all of SP was in a 1R a minute barsinho.

Boa sorte ....

[Albert Punter]

Good you want to experience SP.
I am sure you will have fun here.

As you mention your fluency in the local language, I would recommend you to select a girl from the many websites and invite her to your place. It is true that many pics are photoshopped, however this search will allow you to contact young girls with nice smile and real boobs (silicon boobs are in some way recognizable).

Other than that, I concur with Tiradentes you may want to try middle level clubs like Kilt (my favourite) or Vagao or others. You will have the advantage to see the girl in person and to chat a little bit, to see if some chemistry may develop.
Cafe Photo is full of beautiful young girls (why you got impression too old women browse there ?), however many of them feel themselves as model type, so they may not be what you look for, and are expensive too.

So I have read all the Sao Paulo reports going back to 2007. Great information and I have decided to make this my next stop.

I have been to Rio many times and I am just really tired of that scene. I have also been to Fortaleza and it is not really for me.

I am more of a big city guy. I am from NYC where I have been most of life except having lived in Paris and London for a few years each. So Big city is for me.

I speak Portuguese fairly well so language will not be an issue for me in SP.

While I don't want to spend a fortune on a girl money is less of a concern than finding the right scene for my tastes.

I do not like terma like environments I prefer my hotel or apartment.

I hate fake breasts. I really do not need model like women. I would rather have an average girl with a pretty face and nice smile.

So even after RTFF I am still confused.

The Cafe Foto type places seem to have women too old and too fake. prefer 19-24 years old with real breasts and grils who do not think they are model types.

I do not need champagne type places but also prefer not to be in the "gutter"

Any suggestions?

[Tiradentes]

So I have read all the Sao Paulo reports going back to 2007. Great information and I have decided to make this my next stop.

I have been to Rio many times and I am just really tired of that scene. I have also been to Fortaleza and it is not really for me.

I am more of a big city guy. I am from NYC where I have been most of life except having lived in Paris and London for a few years each. So Big city is for me.

I speak Portuguese fairly well so language will not be an issue for me in SP.

While I don't want to spend a fortune on a girl money is less of a concern than finding the right scene for my tastes.

I do not like terma like environments I prefer my hotel or apartment.

I hate fake breasts. I really do not need model like women. I would rather have an average girl with a pretty face and nice smile.

So even after RTFF I am still confused.

The Cafe Foto type places seem to have women too old and too fake. prefer 19-24 years old with real breasts and grils who do not think they are model types.

I do not need champagne type places but also prefer not to be in the "gutter"

Any suggestions?

Sampa is the largest mongering place in the world. Surely, you will find what you like at a reasonable price .

Places like Cafe Foto, Bomboa, etc.(seems a new high end place opens every week) should be shunned. Their prices outweigh the quality and the service you will receive.

To find nice talent at reasonable pices, I suggest lower end tiers, such as Kilt, Vagao, etc. They both are located in Centro, Nestor Pestana (sp) street.
Any taxi would know these places.

[Bobo5]

Yes, it definately was a 150 real fee. If I can find a copy of the receipt I will post.

Choose the Hilton next time.
Just a few hundred meters from the Sheraton Brooklyn. I've been there many times and can assure there is no extra fee, they'll just register the girl.

bb5

[Albert Punter]

Sometimes I do that too.
In these cases reception staff don't care a dime about the girl.

When my lady friend and I are in SP and want to bring up another guest, she or we make arrangements to meet in an area of the lobby or even outside the hotel. Never had a problem doing this. Plus you can screen guests better.

[Albert Punter]

Sorry but I cannot provide a list.
I had this experience at a aparthotel in Al.Lorena a few years back.

Also, many of the girls I had invited to my room, told me that hotels keep a book and told they would have left some of their pics downstairs.

As far as asking to hotel staff, chatting with a girl yesterday I learnt she was going to meet another guest in same aparthotel. This guest was addressed to her by restaurant manager to whom this guest asked for some "help" in finding a girl.

Which major hotels provide this service?