Sao Paulo Reports

[Sui Generis]

(I don't think she does anal, but I wasn't looking for it, her pussy is super tight.)

You're right, she doesn't give anal. She's new as an escort. Only 6 reviews on a national forum, since the beginning of December. So far 6 positive reviews. I think I'm gonna check this honey in April...

[Sui Generis]

What kind of weekly or monthly rates for these apts?

It depends of different factors (the location, square feet)

here's an example for a flat in Bela Cintra with a monthly rate below 2,000R$

http://www.belacintra.com.br/PRECOS.HTM

A useful site is the following one:

http://www.aluguetemporada.com.br/sa...lo/rentals.cfm

[Sperto]

Quickly, I wanted to note my exceptional experience with Andrelly from Club Models at Hotel Lido yesterday (Saturday).

She looks wonderful.
What was her rate?

[BionicMan]

I prefer flats (apt) for different reasons. Among them I may list the following ones:

1) You can cook your own meal. I especially like to do my own breakfeast and sometimes fix a light lunch. Prosal mentionned Mercure (Excellence) which is located near Bomboa. Beside a nearby metro station (Clinicas) there's a Pão de Açucar (supermarket) on Teodoro Sampaio and another grocery store (I don't remember the name of that one) on the corner of Teodoro Sampaio and Oscar Freire.

2) Guests are allowed

3) Very large and multiple wardrobe

4) You have the feeling of being at home because there are several; rooms in the apt.

5) les expensive than an hotel but with the same services (pool, wireless Internet, TV sets, etc.)

Fully agreeing! Most of them even have an inhouse restaurant.
The "home" feeling is second to none, offers the chance to warm up in a living room environment before moving straight to bed for the action.

[Freedom3]

Here is a summary I have made from the various postings.

Cafe Foto: R$190 entrance fee, no exit fee.

Bomboa: R$180 entrance fee, $R100 exit fee (to take a lady to my hotel).

Scandallo: R$150 entrance fee, R$180 exit fee (to take a lady to my hotel).

The following applies to each club equally:

-The fees for the ladies are about $R300 for an hour or two and up.

-Some ladies may speak english, but most won't.

-The ladies range from 7s to 9s.

Anyone disagree or want to comment on the above?

[Hughdad]

I'll be posting my experiences from the past several days in SP in the next few days while I get a few few hours. And my thanks again to Sui Generis, JW Capp and Patrick here for there invaluable info. If you are thinking about a SP mongering trip go back and read their posts in this forum as a starting point (IMO). Thanks again guys.

Quickly, I wanted to note my exceptional experience with Andrelly from Club Models at Hotel Lido yesterday (Saturday). The lady is a knockout and a real sweetheart. Pure class with an infectious laugh. I was attracted to her very classy, stylish photos on Club Model. She does justice to her terrific photos and her breasts are real and spectacular. I also learned my Porto studies are taking hold as I was able to converse freely with her and hold her attention and had great laughs. (She does not speak any English.)

Lido was convenient for getting a session set up over the phone and I wanted to experience a SP love motel experience. Got a luxo hidro suite for 4 hours for R$70 and they had a special where a nice lunch was included for free. So not bad at all. (Note: subways in SP are very convenient, clean and easy to use.)

Andrelly showed up right on time at noon, 30 minutes after I checked in. I opened the door to a spectacular looking lady with a wide smile, lips made for kissing and those smoldering f' me eyes. Amazing eyes. Tight jeans and a tight white blouse with the girls bursting out. She leaned in right at the door and planted a long, hot DFK on me. Still kissing, she backed me up into the room. Right up against the bed canopy post. We ended up spending over 3 hours together. In the bed, in the shower, on the floor, against the mirror wall, at the little dining table. Highlights included her kneeling in the shower and giving me an amazingly long BBBJ which ended with CIM, her covering her breasts with the carmel sauce from the flan at lunch, and the longest 69 session I think I ever had with a new mirrored view overhead. (I don't think she does anal, but I wasn't looking for it, her pussy is super tight.) And a great conversion over lunch with me mesmerized by her natural breasts that are so firm and perfect. Ultimately super hot GFE. A great comfort level. Amazing, tireless kisser. My mouth and lips are still numb. When she cums it is a great thing to watch and feel. I'll be seeing her in early January when I am back.

http://www.clubmodel.com.br/acompanh...perfil&id=1313

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[Hobbying]

What kind of weekly or monthly rates for these apts?

[Sui Generis]

Does anyone have any experience or info. with apartment rentals for short term stay ( minimum for 1 week stay, possibly 2 or 3 week stay)?

Is it worth it or is a hotel stay better? 9 out of 10 times I usually rent an apartment when visiting Rio. But I get the impression that it is not as common in SP.

I usually prefer apartments because its more economical, and more privacy. But I would be open to staying in a hotel if it would be more practical and/or cheaper than an apartment. Not sure since I am not familiar with SP. Any thoughts, suggestions, or opinions? Thanks!

There's not much to add to Prosal's excellent answer. His description of the different barrios is quite accurate.

To his suggestion of Mercure flat/hotels I may add the following flats services that are also excellent.

Travel Inn flat service
http://www.travelinn.com.br/redehoteis.asp

Transamerica Flat services
http://www.transamericaflats.com.br/...A57A8&navid=40

Riema Flat Services
http://maps.google.ca/maps/place?hl=...64711093313827


I prefer flats (apt) for different reasons. Among them I may list the following ones:

1) You can cook your own meal. I especially like to do my own breakfeast and sometimes fix a light lunch. Prosal mentionned Mercure (Excellence) which is located near Bomboa. Beside a nearby metro station (Clinicas) there's a Pão de Açucar (supermarket) on Teodoro Sampaio and another grocery store (I don't remember the name of that one) on the corner of Teodoro Sampaio and Oscar Freire.

2) Guests are allowed

3) Very large and multiple wardrobe

4) You have the feeling of being at home because there are several; rooms in the apt.

5) les expensive than an hotel but with the same services (pool, wireless Internet, TV sets, etc.)

[Prosal]

I have been using the search tool to get some info. on apartment rentals in SP. But it is very limited in this forum. Does anyone have any experience or info. with apartment rentals for short term stay ( minimum for 1 week stay, possibly 2 or 3 week stay)?

Is it worth it or is a hotel stay better? 9 out of 10 times I usually rent an apartment when visiting Rio. But I get the impression that it is not as common in SP.

I usually prefer apartments because its more economical, and more privacy. But I would be open to staying in a hotel if it would be more practical and/or cheaper than an apartment. Not sure since I am not familiar with SP. Any thoughts, suggestions, or opinions? Thanks!

Mercure Apartments are definitely the way to go in Sao Paulo. They are about 2x cheaper than in Rio, and usually offer good weekend and long-stay discounts.

There's some 20 branches all over Sao Paulo. The hardest thing is to choose your bairro; Moema, Pinheiros, Jardins and Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia are the best choices. Moema is on a refreshingly human scale compared to most other parts of town. The Mercures (3 or 4 branches in Moema) are near to a big mid to upperscale shopping mall (Shopping Ibirapuera), and beside the Ibirapuera Park which is huge, nice, and very clean. There's also many good restaurants in Moema. The only minus of the neighborhood is that it's very remote from Centro P4P nightlife options, and taxis are rather expensive in SP. Pinheiros is an unpretentious and friendly bairro, closer to Centro, with many lively pubs, bars, live music venues, ect and IMHO the best area to stay for a "party-goer", as it is halfway between Republica and Itaim Bibi/Vila Olimpia. Also the Mercure is located on the same street as Bomboa, which is definitely a plus !. Itaim Bibi and adjacent Vila Olimpia are the epicenter of Sao Paulo regular nightlife, with literally hundreds of venues, and you can't be wrong by staying there. Jardins is the equivalent of Leblon in Rio, with lots of posh stores, nice trendy terraced cafes, ect, but few nightlife. Nonetheless it's an enjoyable neighborhood to stroll around during the day, and it's also rather central, which makes it a good option to stay. Another interesting location,where there's also a Mercure, is Bela Vista, which is the new neo-bohemia "in" bairro that goes up, and that have the big advantage to be very central near Paulista (MASP) and Republica (Love Story, Augusta and N.Pestana strip bars, ect) neighborhoods.

http://www.accorhotels.com.br/mercure/

As for exploring SP, remember that you can hit one different great P4P place every night, 7 days a week and during 3 monthes without even begin to discover all that the city has to offer. And I'm not even talking about regular nightlife, which is undoubtedly the most various and active on the planet. To chime in the below discussion, compared to Sao Paulo, Rio is a joke.

[Mangera]

I have been using the search tool to get some info. on apartment rentals in SP. But it is very limited in this forum. Does anyone have any experience or info. with apartment rentals for short term stay ( minimum for 1 week stay, possibly 2 or 3 week stay)?

Is it worth it or is a hotel stay better? 9 out of 10 times I usually rent an apartment when visiting Rio. But I get the impression that it is not as common in SP.

I usually prefer apartments because its more economical, and more privacy. But I would be open to staying in a hotel if it would be more practical and/or cheaper than an apartment. Not sure since I am not familiar with SP. Any thoughts, suggestions, or opinions? Thanks!

[Sui Generis]

I hear what you're saying - though apart from the generalised personality trait differences between paulistinas and cariocas, I think I'd probably disagree with everything in your post you've said about Rio. Valid enough as a sort of SP viewpoint, but enough to get you ostracised in the beautiful city of RJ. If anyone is seriously unable to find much to do in RJ please PM me- and I assure you I'm no 'redneck' lol.

My POV is probably outdated. In fact, the last time I spend in Rio was in 1986. I know (or knew) the city fairly well at that time (I lived there two years from 1982 to 1984). But already then I had problems with the amount of tourists that were invading the city and the fun spots.

Maybe times have changed but then I was unable to cope anymore with hords of drunken gringos trying to have a session with a garota and unable to utter a simple word in Portuguese.

I think that on this aspect Rio may be worst than before.
But I may be mistaken.

[Jan 156]

I hear what you're saying - though apart from the generalised personality trait differences between paulistinas and cariocas, I think I'd probably disagree with everything in your post you've said about Rio. Valid enough as a sort of SP viewpoint, but enough to get you ostracised in the beautiful city of RJ. If anyone is seriously unable to find much to do in RJ please PM me- and I assure you I'm no 'redneck' lol.

I'm glad to read this remark on this forum.

When it comes to hobbying, Rio is a lot more expensive (and homogeneous) than São Paulo.

In Rio you'll find mainly garotas (mulatas) coming from the poorest parts of Brazil. You'll have a hard time if you're looking for a bloonde with a white complexion or a ruiva (redhead) with blue eyes). Basically, you'll find the same type of garotas : B' girls. That's about it.

The configuation, the selection is different in São Paulo. The garotas are more diversified, classier and, in general more educated and goodl-mannered.

The other difference is in the price. Beside Help and Termas (with their 45 minutes session!) there's not too much to do in Rio (expect the beaches which are Rio's biggest asset). (I'm puzzled when I consider the fact that there's virtually no hobbyists from this board reporting sessions with garotas in boates like Barbarella, for example) Rio is for tourists and the prices are for tourists also...

In São Paulo you can have a decent GFE session (full hour) with garotas in the 8, 9 or (oh lucky bastard!) 10 range. It happens in some privês. If you push your luck, you can even end up with the cell number of the garota and be able to combine a night (or something else) with her for the ridiculous price of 200R$ (compare with the 300R$ for 45 min in a Terma).

There are plenty of things to visit in São Paulo. Bookstore, theaters, shopping center, restaurants are everywhere.

If you feel for a dip in the sea, just take a bus (Jabaquara station) and go to São Vincente, Guaruja or Santos. It's only a 45 minutes ride...the time of a session with an expensive garota in Rio!!!!

[Sui Generis]

in the bottom a scene that's so extremely low and trashy that even I wrinkle my nose. Ed Itatiaia, R d Andrades 69, BJ-cinemas and streetwalkers so ugly that they give you goose bumps.

I've been in São Paulo many times, but I could never stand the city for more than one week. It's so huge and people stress like they do back home.

In these respects you're damn right.

A couple of years ago I did a trash tour with local friends (the report is on one of the national forum) down there. They made fun of me because I was looking so disgusted. In Rio you have (or had?)the same thing in the streets near Cinêlandia and Praça Maua. Garotas so ugly that you even don't wish to see your worst ennemy sleeping with them.

What is a real pain in the ass in Sampa is the traffic and the weather. This week it's raining cats and dogs.

I've come to terms with the dimension of the city but not with the bad weather.

[Sperto]

The other difference is in the price. Beside Help and Termas (with their 45 minutes session!) there's not too much to do in Rio (expect the beaches which are Rio's biggest asset). (I'm puzzled when I consider the fact that there's virtually no hobbyists from this board reporting sessions with garotas in boates like Barbarella, for example) Rio is for tourists and the prices are for tourists also...

I agree that São Paulo has much more to offer than Rio when it comes to P4P, but Rio also has a decent P4P-scene in Centro which isn't directed to tourists. R$ 1/minute-casas, lots of casas de massagem and VM close by. What I find impressing in São Paulo is the wide range of P4P. At the top the places where GK hangs out, and in the bottom a scene that's so extremely low and trashy that even I wrinkle my nose. Ed Itatiaia, R d Andrades 69, BJ-cinemas and streetwalkers so ugly that they give you goose bumps.

I guess São Paulo beats Rio in all aspects except when it comes to beauty of the city, beaches and easygoing cariocas. I've been in São Paulo many times, but I could never stand the city for more than one week. It's so huge and people stress like they do back home.

[Ricker]

... Don't go at Love Story at 1am. It's a morgue. Better hit one of the N.Pestana strip clubs (Kilt or Vargao) until 2am. Then LS is a 5/7 mn walk, no problems to do it late at night.

Cool video, thanks. It perfectly shows the mood of partying in Love Story, with is undoubtedly the best disco on the planet in the history of mankind, bar none.

Just too bad it doesn't get going til soooooo late (for me anyway).

By the way, I like to hang sometimes at the place across from Kilt, called My Love. I find it much more relaxed and friendlier than Kilt, not to mention less expensive for drinks.

Also, has anyone else happened upon a little free-lance club near the area of these above mentioned strip clubs??

I bumped into a garota, I had met before in one of the strip clubs, walking to this free-lance club and she had me accompany her on her walk to work.