Sao Paulo Reports

[Anaggie]

They will gladly take your money, but could give a shit if you took your business elsewhere. It won't dent their bottom line one bit.

Great report. Pretty much agree with everything you wrote!

This line is what everyone needs to understand. Boycott it if you want but it won't affect them. The only person it affects is you since you miss out on what Scandello is.

[The Critic]

I just returned from a week-long trip to SP and spent 3 and a half nights at Scandallo. It seems a lot of BMs were also there recently. Thank you, guys for all your reports! I will be posting my thoughts and experiences at Scandallo and SP hobbying in general from my recent trip in another post.

As a big fan of Scandallo, I am intrigued by the varying opinions, praise and criticisms of this high end boate, so I will chime in with my 2 dollars (my posts are like novels).

I think the Scandallo is amazing and my favorite hobbying venue in the world, but might not be the best option for others depending on a their aesthetics, mongering patterns and preferences, time in Sao Paulo, economics, sense of value or type of preferred garotas, etc. While I think some of the criticisms of the club are valid, I think many are flawed.

Well written, many valid points of which I agree with.

[SocratesNY]

Saturday almost all boates are crowded and ratio man / woman goes 2/1.

I haven't experienced a night club with working girls for saturdays (I go to dance or concerts during weekends), but Tuesday. Friday Cafe Photo has the vibe your friend is looking for.

I second Cafe Photo fitting the bill for what you are after. It is a much calmer and smaller (both in size and amount of girls, but generally good quality) version of Scandallo. Good high end boate for a newbie to visit.

It's not for me due to the size and quantity of talent, but also a good change of pace.

[SocratesNY]

I just returned from a week-long trip to SP and spent 3 and a half nights at Scandallo. It seems a lot of BMs were also there recently. Thank you, guys for all your reports! I will be posting my thoughts and experiences at Scandallo and SP hobbying in general from my recent trip in another post.

As a big fan of Scandallo, I am intrigued by the varying opinions, praise and criticisms of this high end boate, so I will chime in with my 2 dollars (my posts are like novels).

I think the Scandallo is amazing and my favorite hobbying venue in the world, but might not be the best option for others depending on a their aesthetics, mongering patterns and preferences, time in Sao Paulo, economics, sense of value or type of preferred garotas, etc. While I think some of the criticisms of the club are valid, I think many are flawed.

Inflationary Pressures and their Target Audience:

Much of the recent complaints, including my own, about the club focus on the increase in the cover and minimum consumption for entry to the club. The increase has definitely outpaced inflation, whether in Brazil or globally. When I first visited in May of 2021, it was R150 to R200 minimum consumption (all following numbers are in real unless with dollar sign) before 7 pm and 300 (200 min consumption + 100 cover) after 7 pm. Now it is 300 min consumption before 7 pm 500 (300 min consumption + 200 cover) after 7 pm. That's an 50-100% increase in min consumption and 100% increase in the cover after 7 pm. The working girls' entry fee has also increased at a similar pace as it went from 200 to 300 to 350.

Some claims the reason for this steep increase is to keep out the lookey looks guys or to increase the standards / caliber of the girls who work there, e. G. , keep out the riff rafts. Other claim the club increased the cost of entry to recoup their renovation costs during the pandemic. Others blame it on supply chain issues and increase in cost of labor. I think there's a sprinkling of truth of to all the above, but I believe the main reason is that they do it is because they feel they can without losing their targeted demographic, which are RICH men (usually locals, but some visitors, and many celebrities, musicians and professional athletes) or businessmen with big expense accounts. You might not like to hear it, but their target audience isn't most of the folks posting on this forum. They will gladly take your money, but could give a shit if you took your business elsewhere. It won't dent their bottom line one bit.

Their ideal customers are those that come in groups and party and drink lots of high end booze, with hot, flirty and available women being the environment to encourage and help with with drinking. Sure they make money from the food, hotel and exit fees, but that's not their bread and butter. Those are ancillary services to sell their main product, which also isn't the girls. Selling high priced liquor and also collecting admission to do so in this men's paradise of an environment is their money maker.

It just comes down to the rich got richer and the poor got poorer during the pandemic and the club is looking to take advantage of this, as their clientele can afford the increase. Heck, if it wasn't for the crazy weak real, many of us on this forum, me included, wouldn't be visiting Scandallo on a regular or infrequent basis. So I thank my lucky stars for the strong dollar / euro / pound vs the real and hope that doesn't change anytime soon, as I find Brazilian women to be amazing!

While I don't like the increase in the min consumption or the cover, it's still a drop in the bucket in the whole scheme of things. We are talking about a 100 increase in cover ($20 USD) and a 100 increase in consumption, and just about anyone would spend the new 300 consumption anyway, unless you are only drinking soda or water and don't eat and maybe buy 1-2 drinks for the girls you talk to. If you are that type of spender, you aren't a valued customer to them and they don't really value your opinion or business. Even if every forum member who would have went to Scandallo boycotted the place, it would not move the needle in the club's management's view on their pricing model.

Spending $40 USD on cove and $60 on drinks and food at a club is chump change for any high end establishment in just about any big developed city in the world. And Sao Paulo is the financial capital of Latin America with the most millionaires in South America, with a diverse population. You will pay more than a $40 cover at most high end clubs at any big city around the world, from New York, LA, Vegas, Miami, London, Paris, Madrid, Barcelona, Berlin, Zurich, Tokyo, Singapore, Bangkok, Jakarta, Hong Kong, Shanghai, Seoul, Sydney, to Buenos Aires. And that's just some of the cities I've paid similar or much higher cover charge / min consumption to visit a high end club, whether it's a civilian club or one with lots of independent working girls. When looking at it through that lens, it is basically a ZERO to $20 USD increase for admission for most visitor. We've had it really good for a long time and this MINOR adjustment might be overdue. Especially if you do not discount / lump in the minimum consumption with the cover and basically claim you get nothing from the consumption.

Venue Type:

Complaints about Scandallo for NOT BEING THE VENUE TYPE THEY WANT IT TO BE, rather than ACCEPTING IT FOR WHAT IT IS. Is just illogical IMHO. I don't get pissed at clinicas for not having lots of super models. I don't get upset at not having Michelin quality meals at McDonal's. I don't get pissed off at economy class on commercial flights not having a flat bed and dine on demand meals. I also don't get pissed at lions for being carnivores.

Scandallo IS NOT a brothel or freelancer bar where the girls line up and wait on you to choose them. For that you can go to Thermae or the Maria in Bangkok, Malioboro in Jakarta, FKKs in Germany / Switzerland, countless places in Spain, etc. Scandallo is a bar, restaurant, disco where there is a high cost of admission (at least for locals) which brings together men (and a few ladies) of means with hot women who are willing to provide companionship for some paper. It might facilitate P4 P activities, but the other aspects of the venue can't be ignored, where lots of drinking and socializing are involved.

Most of the guys aren't trying to impress the girls with their drinking or socializing. They have expensive bottle of liquor and VIP booths because they enjoy drinking the good stuff and hanging with their friends, co-workers, family members, etc. While surrounded by beautiful women who are willing to offer them companionship and sex for what's in their pants. Specifically the money in their wallet. They spend what you consider "ridiculous amounts of money" to have fun. To them. It's just "money".

You might consider it a *house, but IT IS NOT. It might easily facilitate P4 P action, but the girls are independent and have free will. They can turn you down with a flat "No Thanks", reject you by quoting an insane price, not taking what they don't feel is fair to them to spend time with you, make an excuse they are waiting on a client, etc.

You might also not consider it to be a nightclub, but IT IS a nightclub at night. Many guys go there with ZERO intention of taking a girl to a room in the hotel or out of the cub. Quite a lot guys just go to Scandallo to drink and socialize with friends and grope, dance with, make out, look at pretty women. Some might take digits for an outside rendezvous, while others just hang and let their friends have fun. It is just a nightclub with the option of easy P4 P if you wish to partake and have the coin, which isn't the same as a *house or brothel, with set rates and few girls can say no to you.

What I love about Scandallo is that it a different venue with a different vibe at different times during the day. In the afternoon, it's more chill and you see different types of girls working there. In the early evening, it AMPS up a bit without being too louds or crazy. During late night, it can be a madhouse of debauchery.

If the above is not your cup of tea, there are countless other hobbying venues in Sao Paulo and Brazil in general for you to have your fun, and hopefully in an environment and venue that more suits your hobbying style. During my most recent trip, I went to other boates from low brow Casarao to homely Bomboa, to high end clinicas / massage places like the Palms and Oro Spa, to good value clinicas popular with the locals like Tangara and Prime and even dabbled in online escorts and SA for the first time in Sampa.

Pricing or Value of Girls:

I've seen the pricing go up from early 2021 to present day in regards to what the girls quote and are willing to accept. Hobbying inflation has outpaced normal inflation, in part due to the break many girls and clients took during the pandemic. Girls coming back to work want to make up for lost income. Guys missing out on their fun and with increased savings from not hobbying, are also willing to open their pocketbooks. With that said, I haven't found it to be too much of an increase compared to other cities I've hobbied at during and after the pandemic.

In 2021, I was getting:

Quoted:800 to 1,000 and they accepted 5-700 for 1 hour.

Quoted 1,000 to 1,500 and accepted 800 to 1200 for overnights.

In 2022, I was getting:

Quoted 800 to 1,2000 for one hour and they accepted 6-800 for 1 hour.

Quoted 1,000 to 2,000, but quickly accepted 1,000 to 1,500 for overnights.

Now in 2023, I've been.

Quoted 800 to 1,500 and accepted 600 to 1,000 for one hour.

Quoted 1,000 to 3,500 and accepted 1,000 to 2,000 for overnights.

It was mostly the ceiling that increased, as the floor prices can still be had.

I usually ignored the 3,000+ quotes, and the few I tried to negotiate with usually didn't budge so I moved on. Luckily, 90% of them weren't my type anyway. I did make one exception and it was one of the best nights I had in SP.

So from MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, the inflation wasn't that high compared to other hobbying locales, and I've mongered at FKKs in Europe, gogos, strip clubs, soapies, indy pickup bars in SE Asia and Latin America and online escorts and massage places in the US. All those places saw a 40 to 150% increase in hobbying prices.

At the end of the day, it also comes down to YMMV and what you bring to the able when it comes to negotiating prices with girls at Scandallo. They aren't clinica girls you just point and shoot and pay a set price. The prices you get quoted and what they accept depends a lot on how you present yourself in terms of looks, hygiene, personality, negotiating skills, ability to read the girl, ability to make her laugh or charm her. I am not saying that if you look like DiCaprio and don't flash much cash, that the girls will sleep with you for free or give you a super steep discount. Although, one time a girl INSISTED I take her up to the room for a free session (I still had to pay for the hotel fee) because I was not happy with how our last meeting went and she wanted to make sure she rocked my world (and she did) so I didn't think poorly of her.

I've had friends and heard stories from friends about situations where they totally got hustled on pricing, usually on their first visit, as they had the deer in the headlights look, and got taken advantage of. One personal friend paid almost 3 x more than I've ever paid at that point in time, for an overnight. When his pernoite was done, he had no regrets and he might have had gotten very good value. The girl was a nymphomaniac and they went at it all night. Past sunrise and she didn't let him rest until it was time for Sunday brunch! It was some of the best sex he ever had. Another friend of a friend paid a similar amount on his first visit for JUST ONE HOUR, and unfortunately only had a mediocre session. He ignored his friend's advice to check with him about pricing before going up to the room, but ignored his advice. He learned his lesson and is now having a blast in SP, while paying more appropriate pricing.

With that said, I've met girls who are level headed, not just about money and quite balanced. Many of them are so hot that they usually can find a guy to take them out of the club within a few of hours of entering the club. I've seen some of those on a regular basis and they tell me they are selective about who they choose and just want a fun time with good company. They also sometimes would charge less to those guys as they find their "job" less tiring and demanding than the "party crowd" and are forward thinking, as they are after repeat business with guys they like and perhaps hook a rich sugar daddy to take them on trips and nice dates. Some of these girls only drop by the club when they have an opening in their busy schedule, as they are usually either traveling with clients or seeing them outside the club on a regular basis or have professional pursuits that take up a lot of their time.

One constant argument about high pricing involves rolling in the cost of the cover and consumption into the cost of a "fuck". That's disingenuous, as it discounts all the value you get from paying your cover and consumption. Here is what I feel I get from my cover and consumption.

I get to be in a posh and luxurious environment to hang with friends, or if solo, a relaxed and comfortable place to meet higher quality working girls. The environment brings a lot of higher end women in one place for me to peruse and choose. Many of them are highly educated professionals or talented artists or beautiful models. I've met doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers, artists, grad students, actresses and print / commercial models. Some just work at the club infrequently, as they might be going through a bit of a rough patch, want to buy something nice for a special occasion, are single parents who need a quick boost, saving for school / new career, etc. I've even met a few who came from a silver spoon upbrining with good paying jobs and just love sex and being wine and dined. As they like to put it, "they like to spend their money on themselves on their own wants, but like to have a guy spoil them as well. " In the club, they can have the best of both worlds without any attachments or drama.

I get to see the goods up close and personal, without worrying about IG filters, etc. I can take my time and get to know them and see if we might be a good fit and whether their personality would lead to a good time. I can't do that vetting at a clinica or with an online escort or on a SA site (without spending a lot of time and energy, which I value). Scandallo brings all the girls to the yard and creates an ideal environment for me to pick and choose. I certainly see a ton of value in that and would gladly pay the 200 cover.

As for the consumption, you get what you pay for, although at an inflated price, but that's the same at any high end club. No one is forcing you to blow through 1,500 to 3,000 in consumption. If you are frugile, you can still eat just fine and drink okay with the 300 consumptions. Many of my friends are able to have a nice dinner and a few drinks on that consumption so it's not super pricey. It's not like they are charging you 300 for water.

Perhaps you get zero value from the above, but if that's the case, what are you doing in a place like Scandallo, when you can go to a point and shoot hobbying venue?

Something not praised much on the forums (which I find curious) is the amazingly beneficial value in Brazilian hooker math for pernoite / overnights. It is usually just 50 to 100% more than a 1 hour session. For at most 2 x the hourly rate, you can get up to 12 to 16 hours with a girl. Sometimes it might be as little as 2-3 hours if a girl wants to leave after you pop, but that's why it's important to define the parameters of the overnight with the girl. Most of my overnights with Scandallo girls lasted from dinner until a late breakfast in bed or brunch the next day! An overnight in most western hobbying venue would be 6 to 10 x the hourly rate for 12 hours.

Service Negotiation:

I used to use the "Go with the Flow" approach and trust my gut and people reading skills when it comes to the "vetting process". I usually buy a drink for a girl I am interested in and we shoot the breeze. I try to gauge her personality and demeanor and what I can read in her eyes (I used to pay A LOT of poker, which comes in handy) to determine if we have chemistry and would be a good fit. It worked just fine most of the time, but those few slips through the cracks did irk me and I have refined my approach.

Now when I "interview" a girl, I do what I usually do, but when I believe we are a good fit and I would be willing to "pull the trigger" and take her out of the club (I prefer pernoite over 1 hour "test run" sessions), I would tactfully and deftly ask some service oriented questions. I don't ask outright whether you do service A, be, see or the. Instead, I usually ask her what she likes in bed as I want to respect her boundaries and that mutual respect is important, which I believe as well. I don't want a girl grudgingly doing a service they don't enjoy or just outright lie and then reneg.

Usually they would either act shy or say they like everything and likes to please. This usually leaves me with an opening and allows me to say, "since you are shy and really don't want to say. Or that sounds too general and I want to make sure we have a good time, I'll make it easy for you and let you know what I like". I then let them know what I like and want in bed and then I ask them whether they are okay with the services I like / want (DFK, BBBJ, have high energy / stamina, like lots of foreplay and massages, CIM, etc.). As I am generally after a high energy / stamina oriented GFE experience, and don't have any crazy fetishes, they are almost always okay with my service requests. Only 1 or 2 girls every said no, and that was to BBBJ so I cut her loose. On a few occasions, I've even broached the subject of BBFS with a girl that I feel a great connection with and also feel she is "clean". I usually ask her if she has been recently tested or willing to get tested and explain to her that I have recent tests, take PreP and is clipped.

So I don't see a fault in either approach. Whether it's go with the flow or ask in a respectful and / or deft manner. However, I wouldn't go up to a girl at Scandallo with a pre-printed list of service questions in Portuguese and ask her to answer them. I think that would 1) put her on the defensive, 2) have her either say no when it could be a yes when asked the right way or 3) lie outright and give you either the minimal definition of the service or lie and not provide it at all in the room.

I am a firm believer in that if you treat the girls with respect and a person, you GENERALLY will get the same treatment back, especially when a lot of the local Brazilian men (or so I'm told by most of the Scandallo girls I've been with) are basically super macho and treat them like pieces of meat. Afterall, most of us are just after a mutually beneficial relationship / transaction with someone whose company we enjoy. Anything to further that goal is a win-win for both parties.

At the end of the day, I am not trying to tell anyone what is the best way for them to hobby. There are so many options in Sao Paulo. You should do what best works for you! However, it's also unrealistic, a bit arrogant, a little silly to think that those from this forum have much of an impact on how a club like Scandallo functions. Best advice I can give is my opinion on how best to navigate THIS SPECIFIC hobbying environment / venue and extract the best value and experiences you can from such a wonderful (to me) establishment.

[Axel Heyst]

So I am with my friend in Brazil and he has never mongered or been to a boaete or even strip club. He is interested in going (we only have this Saturday night in Sao Paulo and I think he would be most comfortable in a quieter club atmosphere. Definitely not Casarao where I went before. He probably won't session but wants to just talk to girls and feel the vibe in a relaxed place. Which places would you recommend? I didn't make it out to scandallo and I may want to save that for when he is more comfortable. I have done mostly the clinicals here. Suggestions?

Saturday may turn out to be your lucky night, RonhinC, because Saturday nights in SP are usually slower and quieter than Wed thru Friday nights. Therefore, I think Scandallo will be perfect for you guys. There will still be plenty of attractive girls all around, but it will feel like a more relaxed environment with fewer people and semi private little spaces in the courtyard to "talk to the girls and feel the vibe. " KKK.

This as opposed to the usual Thursday or Friday nights at Scandallo when the place is near capacity, and it really rocks.

[HiddenEye]

Saturday almost all boates are crowded and ratio man / woman goes 2/1.

I haven't experienced a night club with working girls for saturdays (I go to dance or concerts during weekends), but Tuesday. Friday Cafe Photo has the vibe your friend is looking for.

So I am with my friend in Brazil and he has never mongered or been to a boaete or even strip club. He is interested in going (we only have this Saturday night in Sao Paulo and I think he would be most comfortable in a quieter club atmosphere. Definitely not Casarao where I went before. He probably won't session but wants to just talk to girls and feel the vibe in a relaxed place. Which places would you recommend? I didn't make it out tonscadallo and I may want to save that for when he is more comfortable. I have done mostly the clinicals here. Suggestions?

[The Cane]

Prices have gone up but not to this magnitude; you can't compare the prices to those in US; girls in the US are not affordable for most american and its illegal. You should compare it to Colombia or Peru where its much much cheaper for the same service.

There's just one problem with your statement. I've never been to Peru but the service in Columbia is not the same. For my purposes and needs service is Brazil is superior. I know both countries very well and have zero desire to monger in Colombia ever again when I know I can go to the best place in the world to monger for me, which is Brazil. I would even go to Germany before going to Colombia.

[BigButtDetecto]

There's always been Scandallo detractors. Don't let some recent chatter from a few members spook you.

If one has mongered in North America and anywhere else in the world recently, you know that prices for escorts has gone up like everything else. It is what it is.

Prices have gone up but not to this magnitude; you can't compare the prices to those in US; girls in the US are not affordable for most american and its illegal. You should compare it to Colombia or Peru where its much much cheaper for the same service.

[RonhinCruz]

So I am with my friend in Brazil and he has never mongered or been to a boaete or even strip club. He is interested in going (we only have this Saturday night in Sao Paulo and I think he would be most comfortable in a quieter club atmosphere. Definitely not Casarao where I went before. He probably won't session but wants to just talk to girls and feel the vibe in a relaxed place. Which places would you recommend? I didn't make it out tonscadallo and I may want to save that for when he is more comfortable. I have done mostly the clinicals here. Suggestions?

[Axel Heyst]

Jesus imagine having this conversation hahaha, I could not imagine a bigger mood killer.

Our hobby can be hit and miss sometimes, but you cannot force chemistry or human connection either and they regular women outside of their line of work. Its up to you to gauge them beforehand too mate. You are not buying a can of beans off a shelf. Its one thing to negotiate services, but to do it using threats and warnings is next level.

MiamiBoy & Anaggie, I have to agree with WR on this. It is a mood killer without a doubt and frankly I wonder why you guys think negotiations with a boate girl is necessary or even productive. I never pre negotiate or make specific requests. I always flirt with the girls I am interested in and I always offer these girls a drink, and I always test drive the girl (you guys know what I mean) before we talk about going upstairs.

If or when a girl passes the audition is when it is the time to find out how much she wants. I already know her ballpark figure before she tells me. If a girl quotes me 1000 br or less I usually counter offer 600 br. She can accept it or say no. They almost always accept. If we are still only 100 BR apart I usually accept her offer. If a girl asks for something north of 1000 BR I counter with half her offer and I am prepared to pay her half + 200. This is assuming the girl is a Tier 1 looker so I anticipated she would be asking large before I even said OI, but if she is a Tier 2 girl and asking more than a 1000 BR then she is clearly out of her mind. KKK. And I will move on unless she comes to her senses fast.

My results: I never had a bad session in a SP Boate. Some girls are as good as I thought they would be. Many girls are even better than I thought they would be. And a few girls are adequate, but nothing to write home about, but they still did what they needed to do to show me a decent time and it was just for one reason or another that we did not click and set off 4th of July firecrackers. It happens occasionally, even in Brazil because not all girls can be superstars in bed. But I never had a boate girl who did not give me passionate & wet DFK's, a good BBBJ, and covered vaginal sex in multiple positions. Then once in a while, I will have a girl who wants me to cum in her mouth. Once in a while I have a girl who will bareback. Occasionally I have paid 100 BR to 200 BR extra for BBFS. And, once in a while a girl will offer anal sex which I usually turn down unless it is with no additional charge, and I am in the mood.

So, I will conclude my take on this discussion by simply saying why would I want to fuck around with a winning strategy 30 years in practice globally. I am already 95% confident of having a very good boate session based on the girl's attitude and the vibe during the audition stage of the evening before we even get down to talk price let alone head to the elevators. Spelling everything out beforehand removes all the spontaneity and to what end. I don't get it. Surprise me baby. Let's see what you got! My experience thus far in Brazil is that a large majority of my Brazilian girls live up to or exceed my expectations in bed. They seem to want to fuck passionately and have as good a time as I do. So, I am not going to change a thing. But YMMV. Good luck.

A. H.

[Anaggie]

I think what he does is great. Eliminates a lot of uncertainty. BTW, he is not forcing her to do anything, it is completely up to the girl to decide if she is okay with whatever he wants or not. She can always say "no, thanks" and move on. He is a paying customer and needs to be sure he will get what he pays for. And I agree, this kind of conversation might be a turn off, but when I'm paying top dollar I want to have a great session, not a mediocre one. I would not expect much from a $50 clinica girl, but I expect top notch service from a $300 hooker.

Exactly. These girls aren't new to the game. They have heard everything and more. What I am saying is innocent stuff. We hammer out a simple verbal contract and then move forward to the playtime. Either she can accept the terms or move on and vice versa. If she insisted on CBJ, I am out. There are plenty of girls and guys for that matter.

[MiamiBoy1]

Jesus imagine having this conversation hahaha, I could not imagine a bigger mood killer.

Our hobby can be hit and miss sometimes, but you cannot force chemistry or human connection either and they regular women outside of their line of work. Its up to you to gauge them beforehand too mate. You are not buying a can of beans off a shelf. Its one thing to negotiate services, but to do it using threats and warnings is next level.

I think what he does is great. Eliminates a lot of uncertainty. BTW, he is not forcing her to do anything, it is completely up to the girl to decide if she is okay with whatever he wants or not. She can always say "no, thanks" and move on. He is a paying customer and needs to be sure he will get what he pays for. And I agree, this kind of conversation might be a turn off, but when I'm paying top dollar I want to have a great session, not a mediocre one. I would not expect much from a $50 clinica girl, but I expect top notch service from a $300 hooker.

[KcDark]

I have reported before two girls were playing with little guy of a local on the sofa fully dressed. Everyone looking can see he had an erection and the girls kept it that way. LOL. You need to be clear and definitely do not want to be shy about what you want, otherwise you will be taken advantage of. If after an hour of screening, she can still scam you, then you have met a very good actress. That is my take on it. You can simply ask about kissing politely, Do you like kissing? Ask her to show you if she says yes. It should be full on without reservation.

Definitely. I am firm in the states so I should be firm in my wants here especially at the price being asked. Live and learn.

[IsaBahn]

I would suggest you to go to any other luxury boate at the 300 BRL pricepoint (apart from Bahamas which is a shithole).

Casaro in rua Augusta is also good. You need to be vaccinated before you go there almost. You need to ignore the fact that that group there in the corner with 5 guys is clearly the top branch of a local drug cartel, not every night is good. But for a 30/50 BRL entry fee you can go there 10 different days before you reach Scandallo prices. And in Casaro you find that girl that doesn't know what she is doing, that just arrived to So Paulo, and is a true diamond in the rough. Act quickly though, because others also realise that.

Hi,

Everyone talking about Scandallo good or bad. Now I hear of Casaro. Is there a good list and recommendation to other places in Sao Paulo to find good working girls? Can you please share some pointers?

Best,

Aviv.

[Nounce]

She bounced in between being cool and being flirty. I didn't think about making out with her or start feeling her up because I didn't see anyone else feeling anyone up or making out. I'll know better for next time...

I have reported before two girls were playing with a local's little guy on the sofa by the entrance fully dressed. Everyone looking can see he had an erection and the girls kept it that way. LOL. You need to be clear and definitely do not want to be shy about what you want, otherwise you will be taken advantage of. If after an hour of screening, she can still scam you, then you have met a very good actress. That is my take on it. You can simply ask about kissing politely, Do you like kissing? Ask her to show you if she says yes. It should be full on without reservation. The chance to take a bad one is very low.