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[Dealdo]

Dealdo,

Thanks for all the recent reports giving a lot of useful information about local scene.

I am not sure hiring a car is cheaper than going by taxi, obviously that depends on how long you have to go during each day, but in my opinion is more tiring and stressful, due to traffic congestion, lack of knowledge of city and of alternative routes when blocked in a traffic jam.
Also, when travelling at night, probably safer would be to sit in a taxi with a driver who knows where to go and at which red light he can stop and at which he can't (don't forget that not stopping at red light may bring other extremely dangerous consequences).

Otherwise, I agree with you that taxi are expensive here compared to other Latin America countries. This is richest and here is the reason.
Fortunately, Real recent drop makes costs, not only for taxis, more reasonable.

You may be right Albert.. Most of the time I make life probably too spicy..
Well I should say that I only recommend it to adventurer guys..
I did save time and money big time but I manage to oriented my self well and I'm a very fast learner, For me was nice to take off anytime I wanted, pick girls up at the clubs and take them home or cruising around checking more clubs or a late restaurant before the bed action, At day time I could go to shopping malls sometimes talk to some locals take them to eat drop them home, pick them up at night, You know everything we do and can't do at home
Besides Brasilian girls love to ride on your own car more than go on taxis...
I wish it could be that easy to rent a car in the Eastern European countries..

[Mr Pinto]

had a outstanding experience at the palms massage company (clinica) that i thought would be useful to new mongers, old hats and those that have inquired about making a stop from the international airport.

clínica the palms ~ vila olímpia
rua gomes de carvalho 416 - v.olimpia
tel. 11 3044 0366
http://www.thepalms.com.br/ (site in english and port)

i flew in to sao paulo from belo at 2pm and had a planned lay over until my flight left for the states at 10:30pm. i built in the extra time to gauge this for the future.

i showed the taxi driver the address and they have published flat rates to the different barrios. he showed me the list. he said it was about 40 km. from guarulhos airport to vila olimpia the rate was $103 reals. the ride took 35minutes and i arrived at 2:35.

this is a first class place. when you enter they will ask if you have a reservation. i did not, and they sat me down in the main area and gave me a book with photos of the 20-25 girls working. they then provided me with a sheet containing a list of the girls that was in the same order as the book. the names of the girls that were available were marked. they were all 8-10's. they were all very hot!

the manager spoke english and we talked and he filled me in on the details. really funny guy. $190 for an hour which includes the room and a massage with a handjob. if you want to have sex with the girl, let her know, and it is $200 additional regardless of the girl. same price for all.

i made my selection, after a few minutes they call your name and a girl from the front desk takes you to the room. excellent rooms, clean and first class, all with a shower. i took a shower and within 5 minutes the girl i selected entered the room.

she gives you a massage, and about the time she flips you over she will ask, voce quero comigo? that's your que to say sim, and she says muito bom, and the games begin.

i enjoyed it so much and it was only 4pm when i finished, i sat on the couch in the main area, smoked a few cigarettes, looked at the book, watched the girls walking through the place and talked to the manager. were also several clients arriving that spoke english and we chatted for a bit. the manager showed me the book for their second location. it only had like 10 girls, but all were just as hot. he said the second location was just a "pitstop", but the quality was the same. i asked which was closer to the international airport, and he said the second location. something to think about in the future and check on their website which has a link to both places (you can also view the rooms on the site).

since i had plenty of time, at 5pm i went with a second chick that i had seen walking through and asked the manager her name. chantel, and wow had a great time with her. beautiful chick. i left by 6pm and they had a taxi waiting for me outside. $100 reals for the return trip to the airport. but traffic was definitely worse, taking me 1 hour 15 minutes to return. but got back in plently of time to sufffer the international departure ordeal.

i would give this 5 stars, great experience. i highly recommend it. first class place and really pleasant, especially with the manager and some of the clients speaking english (i speak pretty good portugese, but definitely a plus). good peeps. i have seen posts about "high class" ecorts etc. i would see no reason to pay more when these babes are hot as it gets. i also liked the fact this place is open during the day, no need to hit a boite late at night. perfect for the flight lay over guys. i thought it was well worth the money. hope the info was helpful.

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[Albert Punter]

Dealdo,

Thanks for all the recent reports giving a lot of useful information about local scene.

I am not sure hiring a car is cheaper than going by taxi, obviously that depends on how long you have to go during each day, but in my opinion is more tiring and stressful, due to traffic congestion, lack of knowledge of city and of alternative routes when blocked in a traffic jam.
Also, when travelling at night, probably safer would be to sit in a taxi with a driver who knows where to go and at which red light he can stop and at which he can't (don't forget that not stopping at red light may bring other extremely dangerous consequences).

Otherwise, I agree with you that taxi are expensive here compared to other Latin America countries. This is richest and here is the reason.
Fortunately, Real recent drop makes costs, not only for taxis, more reasonable.

.....
And last tip.. If you guys are brave enough to drive I definitely recommend it.. I saved a lot of money in taxis,, they run with the meter.. but the rate is a total rip off in my opinion.. If you do not know the city they take always the longest way also... Get a GPS and you can go almost to any clinica or prive during the day.. BUt first google the map to know how far is from your hotel and what part of the city is.. DO NOT intent to go to the perimeters when is dark and you will be fine..

[Albert Punter]

On a saturday I would recommend you to leave at least 2,5 hrs in advance, so you are sure to be at airport between 2 and 1,5 hrs before take off time.

Thanks for the reply Sui Generis and Italy74, very much appreciated!
Speaking of traffic in Sp which is notoriously crazy, if I have a flight say at 2pm leaving from GRU and if I were to say near Avenida Paulista, how long in advance should I leave the hotel on a Saturday morning? Would 2 hours be sufficient?


Thanks again for all for their feedback.

[Dealdo]

Thanks for the reply Sui Generis and Italy74, very much appreciated!
Speaking of traffic in Sp which is notoriously crazy, if I have a flight say at 2pm leaving from GRU and if I were to say near Avenida Paulista, how long in advance should I leave the hotel on a Saturday morning? Would 2 hours be sufficient?


Thanks again for all for their feedback.

Plenty of time bro,, Saturday morning is a good day for traffic.. half of the offices are close, not a regular work day... I get there in less than an hour, but take your time just to be safe..

[Dealdo]

Dealdo, i would like to hear more about your driving in SP, How far did you drive and what times.

Funk, I drove all over the city..even to both airports..
But I was is Sp many times before.. So i was some familiar with the city..
But one think you have to take in consideration whem making your daily schedule is the prime time for traffic..
8AM to 10:00 is crazy but nobody wakes up that early on vacations.
At lunch time is bad but not to bad to be a metropolis 5PM to 8:00Pm you better have some rest and getting ready for the night If yoy want to see somebody at your place at that time better call her at least 2 hours before so she can make it on time..
During the day are good prives and clinicas in Brooklyn, Moema, Bella Visa Pinheiros, Consolasao etc ,, So you don't need to go too far.
GPs are most of the time base on Jardins and Moema,, very easy to get there during day time..
At night is Ok to drive but try to go with at least one more friend and DO NOT go to the favelas or near by for any reason..
the "casas" are in safe places .. you can go to Connection, Bamboa, Cafe Photo, and even Bacos that is located in Sao Bernardo out side of SP but you take the highway and is OK, no need to go trough the colonias, Sao Bernardo is a safe city comparing to SP.
You can drive by the Augusta before 2 AM no problem.. if you miss the route the program will make a new one for you right away to take you to your destination.. good luck..
One more thing: DO NOT stop at the red lights when is dark and looks empty the streets, especially if you are in an unknown area of the city..

[Sprite13]

Thanks for the reply Sui Generis and Italy74, very much appreciated!
Speaking of traffic in Sp which is notoriously crazy, if I have a flight say at 2pm leaving from GRU and if I were to say near Avenida Paulista, how long in advance should I leave the hotel on a Saturday morning? Would 2 hours be sufficient?


Thanks again for all for their feedback.

[Dealdo]

Yesterday, the São Paulo Tribunal da Justicia acquitted Oscar Maroni, the former owner of Bahamas. They were unable to proove that Bahamas was a brothel.

Can we hope for a reversal of the trend in Sampa in 2009? No more raid and witch hunt against garota de programe and customers....

http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/SaoPaul...5-5605,00.html

They were unable to prove that Bahamas was a brothel? Well, is not surprising, Money is the strongest law in our planet.. unbelievable the level of hypocrisy our society has reached.. Remember the Guy how was force to quit in NY over a scandal for using an escort service?? Nobody really cared what he tried to do good putting an stop to the Wall Street lords, I don't like politicians but I did like that guy, and not because he was a fella monger hehehe
Well, something good about the closing of Bahamas and Milenum was that GPs finally came to their senses and you were able to find a decent 9 for almost half price you spend at Bahamas.. I did score even a couple of them in Augusta and that never happened before ,, Some of them still working in cheaper casas and many are online .. So I was Ok with the house down...

[Sui Generis]

Yesterday, the São Paulo Tribunal da Justicia acquitted Oscar Maroni, the former owner of Bahamas. They were unable to proove that Bahamas was a brothel.

Can we hope for a reversal of the trend in Sampa in 2009? No more raid and witch hunt against garota de programe and customers....

http://g1.globo.com/Noticias/SaoPaul...5-5605,00.html

[Sui Generis]

Since I will be leaving town the next day, I would want to stay close to GRU. I heard from friends in SP that the area near the international airport is not that nice and safe. Any truth to that?

Can you recommend a good hotel, nothing fancy, just a good reliable one within proximity of the airport and to a at least a clinica?

By the way, is Clinica Kin still open and how far is it from the GRU airport? If I were to stay in central SP, near Avenida Paulista, how far is that from the GRU airport by taxi?

Will there be any clinica open on that Friday of Carnaval or is everything closed that weekend?

1) Nice and safe?

Guarulhos is not nice. There's a couple of favela (such as Itapejica) near that bairro. The worst site is, when your on the Dutra, to see all those cheap motels.

There was a time when Guarulhos was worst in terms of safety. For example there were 804 murders in 2002 and only(!) 487 in 2006.

http://jornalismoexperimentalfaria.*...guarulhos.html


2) Hotels in Guarulhos
http://www.hoteis-pousadas.com.br/gu...mguarulhos.htm

3) Some Clínicas and action spots near GRU Airport

GLAMOUR : (11) 6422-1986 / 7622-4191
R$100 for an hour
http://www.clubg.com.br/

There's a new privê (it opened November 26th 2008) near GRU
TAJ MAHAL : 101 Rua Conde Raul Furquim
From 10h00 am to 10h00 pm
R$30 for 1/2 h and $R60 for an hour.
Phone: 7858-2044

There's another privê in that region.
180 Rua Francisco de Paula Francisco
$R30 1/2hr R$50 for an hour.

There's also the Café Monik.

A garota de programa wokrs in that area
Bianca Dantas (she has at least half a dozen more names)
http://www.brunaguarulhos.********.com/
R$200 for an hour. 15 postive TD, 8 negative and 1 medium

There's many more options but nothing in Guarulhos is exceptional. Maybee it's better to go downton Sampa

4) Is Clínica Kin still open?

Yes, it is.
http://www.clinicakin.com.br/


5) If you want to take a taxi, take one from the Co. Guarucoop.

(11) 2440 7070
http://www.radiotaxiazulebranco.com.br/eng/index.html

The reason is simple. They have a fixed-rate airport depending on the district you want to go. It's almost the same rate as a taxi with a meter. However, when you come back to the airport you will notice a difference because while a taxi from another fleet will charge you the run plus half the price (because they have to go back empty to the city) the Guarucoop taxi will still charge a flat rate.

[Italy 1974]

I don't know if Clinica Kin is still open but I guess it is.

Clinica Kin is located near Avenida Santo Amaro that -if my memory helps- is close to the Congonhas airport but 20 km far from GRU.

I think it doesn't worth to stay in a hotel close to GRU: it isn't a nice area at all and about safety I wouldn't put my bet on it.

Best choice is to stay in central Sao Paulo which is a 20 km trip from GRU.

By taxi you may need from 20 minutes to more than 1 hour depending on which time of the day and traffic jams.

My suggestion: for the night Club Bomboa (not so far from the Avenida Paulista); for the afternoon I suggest you Clinica Shangri-La that is located in Avenida Pompeia (Perdizes) not so far as well from Avenida Paulista. I've been there now and then and I've always found nice girls providing good service.

I hope this can help.

Italy 1974

Hello fellow hobbiest,
I will be spending a day in SP (my first time in Sampa) on the 20th of Feb, the day of the start of the SP Carnaval. I have a few questions for the connoisseurs of SP.

Since I will be leaving town the next day, I would want to stay close to GRU. I heard from friends in SP that the area near the international airport is not that nice and safe. Any truth to that?

Can you recommend a good hotel, nothing fancy, just a good reliable one within proximity of the airport and to a at least a clinica?
By the way, is Clinica Kin still open and how far is it from the GRU airport? If I were to stay in central SP, near Avenida Paulista, how far is that from the GRU airport by taxi?
Will there be any clinica open on that Friday of Carnaval or is everything closed that weekend?

I thank you all for your replies, they are very much appreciated!

Valeu!

[Sprite13]

Hello fellow hobbiest,
I will be spending a day in SP (my first time in Sampa) on the 20th of Feb, the day of the start of the SP Carnaval. I have a few questions for the connoisseurs of SP.

Since I will be leaving town the next day, I would want to stay close to GRU. I heard from friends in SP that the area near the international airport is not that nice and safe. Any truth to that?

Can you recommend a good hotel, nothing fancy, just a good reliable one within proximity of the airport and to a at least a clinica?
By the way, is Clinica Kin still open and how far is it from the GRU airport? If I were to stay in central SP, near Avenida Paulista, how far is that from the GRU airport by taxi?
Will there be any clinica open on that Friday of Carnaval or is everything closed that weekend?

I thank you all for your replies, they are very much appreciated!

Valeu!

[Dealdo]

Italy thanks again .. I will look for Camila next time.. I think I saw her..
And now talking about abuse of photo shop from Mclass our friend Hulk was talking about I will post this kind of bad experience..
I called Juliana, as you can see her pictures are striking.. Garota is nice and very friendly over the phone..
In person is even more nice and always ready to party and please you ..
The only problem is that I barely recognize her... she has nice lips and eyes but I don't know, you can't say she is drop dead gorgeous like the pics ..
Her body is super slim and petite.. besides she smokes to much and her pussy doesn't smell too good either..
She did her best but I was kind of uncomfortable and only was thinking to finish to take a shower..
The BJ is with out "it" and she claims to do "speak" Greek,, I did not use the option of course..
Probably had a bad day or was her last service,, I do not know,, I just know I wouldn't repeat..
http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mcl...etorno=0&lin=1

[Italy 1974]

You're welcome Dealdo.

Ragarding you questions, Camila from Bomboa is a slim white girl with dark brown hair; she is 18 years old and she has very nice legs. Definitley you can recognize her from her long legs that she likes to show wearing short dresses.

I think you can ask to some of the staff tought she doesn't come to Bomboa everyday: in the weekedns your chances to find her there are much bigger than during the week.

By the way, I think that Bomboa richt now is one of the best places for hunting. I have benn there also in my last trip (in December I have been 3 days in Sao Paulo) and I found good quality girls and fair prices.

About Camille from Mclass, I can not say anything precise about her age but she is surely under 30. She is tall (1. 80) but not fat. Nice bunda and really big (silicone) tits.

About Fabiana, she looks great. As you wrote, when a girl poses for a magazine like Playboy, this is always a guarantee!

Only downside (but it's just a little one conidering the level of my porn experience with her.) is that anal is not on her menu.

Regards,

Italy 1974

Thank you Italy I'm reading in between lines lately. Busy working at the same time you know. I was at Bamboa this time as well. Can you describe Camila? You say she is real good? And how is Camille from Mclass? I did not trust her pictures for some reason besides most girls when they say are 25 in reality are 30 at least, one more reason I never have called her.

Fabiana looks good, I know that Coelhinhas are in good shape most of the time. I have been with some of them. Fabiana says was in Playboy on October 2007 and destaque in Sexy magazine on December 2008. Is a guaranty when they posse for some of this magazines in my experience.

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[Hard 1986]

I think you misunderstood a little bit.

CAMILA is a girl I picked up at Bomboa.
CAMILLE is the girl my friend choose for himself at www.mclass.com.br.
FABIANA is the girl my friend choose for me from www.mclass.com.br and she is the girl who was on Playboy whose picture you can find on mcclass website at the following link: http://www.mclass.com.br/scripts/mcl...etorno=0&lin=1
The Camila you wrote about isn't related in any way with "my" Camila whom I picked up, as I wrote, at Bomboa.

Italy 1974

Very interesting. Can you help me a little bit with some advices. During the next months I will go to Brazil.

I'm Italian, I try to send you an Mp but you have disable private messaging. Can we find a way to comunicate via mail or cell phone in Italian?

Please help me.