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  1. #16132
    You're wrong about Cuba. Prostitution is not illegal there.

    Other than Thailand, what countries were listed that is not in Latin America?

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Don't worry about the scene being ruined. Because it caters to locals mostly. And high costs will prevent the majority of foreign punters from visiting SP.

    I don't understand your sarcasm, especially about Cuba, where prostitution is illegal and options are limited. All the places you mentioned are not even in Latin America, you better brush up your geography.

  2. #16131
    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    My message to all ISG'ers is: MiamiBoy is right! Don't come to Sao Paulo! It is too fucking far and the girly prices are too high especially compared to other Latin American cities. For example: $200 US is the bare minimum you will have to pay for 1 hour with a tier 2 level girl at Scandallo or Bomboa when you add in all the incidentals and fees. So go to Tijuana, the DR, or Jaco and be happy. I have heard great things about Cuba. Truth.

    The fewer foreign punters visiting SP, the longer the scene will remain solid. I just want another 15 years of play and then I will hang up my spurs and retire to some beach in southern Thailand with a favorite girl. Don't come to SP! The hotels are very expensive too!
    Don't worry about the scene being ruined. Because it caters to locals mostly. And high costs will prevent the majority of foreign punters from visiting SP.

    I don't understand your sarcasm, especially about Cuba, where prostitution is illegal and options are limited. All the places you mentioned are not even in Latin America, you better brush up your geography.

  3. #16130
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Very few of us travel down there. Too far and girls are too expensive compared to other latin countries. Very few speak Porto. Not much to do in the city, besides dining out and fucking.
    I wish I would have known this before I booked my trip LOL. I did get the impression that there is not much to do in Sao Paulo besides dining and fucking. Has anyone visited the casinos or poker rooms there? I see they have a casino that has Texas hold' them and I'd like to play if they do.

  4. #16129
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    Very few of us travel down there. Too far and girls are too expensive compared to other latin countries. Very few speak Porto. Not much to do in the city, besides dining out and fucking.
    My message to all ISG'ers is: MiamiBoy is right! Don't come to Sao Paulo! It is too fucking far and the girly prices are too high especially compared to other Latin American cities. For example: $200 US is the bare minimum you will have to pay for 1 hour with a tier 2 level girl at Scandallo or Bomboa when you add in all the incidentals and fees. So go to Tijuana, the DR, or Jaco and be happy. I have heard great things about Cuba. Truth.

    The fewer foreign punters visiting SP, the longer the scene will remain solid. I just want another 15 years of play and then I will hang up my spurs and retire to some beach in southern Thailand with a favorite girl. Don't come to SP! The hotels are very expensive too!

  5. #16128
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Freaking me out that So Paulo is not on the first page of recent conversation. And I look and the last post was three days ago. So odd what's up here? No one having sex? Tired of debating clinica vs boate? Guys stopped over paying?.
    I think we were all taking in the positive glow from Anaggie's offer to help out a fellow member. That's what makes this forum a cool fellowship of men.

  6. #16127
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Freaking me out that So Paulo is not on the first page of recent conversation. And I look and the last post was three days ago. So odd what's up here? No one having sex? Tired of debating clinica vs boate? Guys stopped over paying? 😂.
    Very few of us travel down there. Too far and girls are too expensive compared to other latin countries. Very few speak Porto. Not much to do in the city, besides dining out and fucking.

  7. #16126

    What's Wrong?

    Freaking me out that São Paulo is not on the first page of recent conversation. And I look and the last post was three days ago. So odd what's up here? No one having sex? Tired of debating clinica vs boate? Guys stopped over paying? 😂.

  8. #16125
    Quote Originally Posted by TedFerguson  [View Original Post]
    Anyone coming to SP in the next 2 weeks? I want to buy a Whoop 4. 0 fitness tracker, which would be sent to an address of your choosing. In return, I'the be happy to give you my perspective living in So Paulo for about 4 months in the last year.
    Going to be in São Paulo from Feb 9-12. Can bring it down to you and you can pick it up at Renaissance. PM me if you are interested. Not looking for anything in return.

  9. #16124
    Anyone coming to SP in the next 2 weeks? I want to buy a Whoop 4. 0 fitness tracker, which would be sent to an address of your choosing. In return, I'the be happy to give you my perspective living in São Paulo for about 4 months in the last year.

  10. #16123
    Quote Originally Posted by TomDick69  [View Original Post]
    I was mostly visiting the places in Villa Mariana.

    Villa Mariana.
    Rua dos Otonis, 694: On Sat 3 pm, it was closed. I rang / knocked, after some time a man from inside told something in Portuguese. He didn't even open the door, I just heard the voice. My best guess is he said it's closed. So, maybe it is closed on Saturdays. All signs for this being a higher end place. Semi discreet place, parking lot in front, camera at the entrance.
    e.
    694 is Oyama which says it's been in business for 50 years. I messaged them a few years ago and this is what they sent me. Sounds like a high end happy ending massage place. So I never tried it. If anybody has. Let us know. It's only on weekdays.

    We offer the Relax Massage, which aims to relieve stress, tension and muscle pain. It starts with a relaxing, anti-stress massage, followed by the Thai massage, which is a more sensual massage. The duration is one hour, one hour and ten and the massage costs are $580.00 on the card or are $500.00 in cash (including the masseur's fees) We have a team of 10 masseuses, all trained in massage relaxing and the presentation of them is done through a photo gallery.

  11. #16122
    Quote Originally Posted by TomDick69  [View Original Post]

    Rua Tangara, 200:

    Rua Dr Jose de Quieros Aranha, 148:15 girls, 5 presented, rating 6-7/10. Other girls were busy or on lunch. 140/30 190/60. 10 am-10 pm, Sun 11 am-9 pm. I was told Fri 4 pm is best time visit. The receptionist guy spoke good english, and he told the owner here is same as Clinica Tangara.

    Rua Bartolomeu de Gusmao, 147: This seems to be a popular place, I have seen 5 guys in 20 minutes I was there. Hours 11 am-7 pm, Sat noon-6 pm, Closed on Sundays and holidays. 185/60, 275/90. Four hands - 310. I don't understand why this is popular. You rarely get to see the girls in person, only on photos even while you are at the location. Wait time for the girl is like 1-2 hours. I didn't want to risk choosing a girl just based on photos. For eg: Anita looks good on photos, but not when I saw in person. I appreciate if someone could explain why this is a popular place.
    .
    148 is clinica Yankin. Lots of Asian guys go here. Yankin and Tangara are the largest and best clinicas in this area IMO, which rivals moema. Daily lineups are 10-20 girls each and these places get busy. I have thought about parking myself between these two clinicas instead of my usual moema.

    https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=198312

    147 is clinica kuhunas. Heard of it but never been.

    https://www.gp-guia.net/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=41216

    Vila Mariana is also much closer to scandallo so not a bad choice to get a place here.

  12. #16121

    Sao Paulo. Jan'22

    I was mostly visiting the places in Villa Mariana.

    Villa Mariana. Centro:

    Rua Joinville, 607. Neo Zen Spa: On Fri 12:20 pm, 2 girls rating 6/10, looks age 30. Prices: Tantrica - 300, Thailand (massage with boobs) - 400, Nuru - 500. All hourly prices. Sex. Extra 300, but easily down to 200. They told 5 girls work there, and 3-4 pm is best to visit. Even their cheapest option was expensive for me, and that too with avg girl, so didn't do session.

    Avenue Conselheiro Rodrigue Alves, 920: Went on Fri 2 pm. The place has big door outside, and it was closed. I rang the bell, but no body opened.

    Avenue Conselheiro Rodrigue Alves, 925: It's opposite to the above place. The whole building is demolished.

    Rua Tangara, 200: It's a standard reliable place. 140/30 190/60. 15 girls work every day, rating 6-8/10. Hot water shower. Seems BBBJ is standard, out of 3 sessions, 2 girls did BBBJ.

    Villa Mariana. North:

    Rua do Parasio, 642: The building is demolished. The corner house is -632, it has camera outside. So, I thought this could be the place, but based on the guy answer from inside, it's not a chica place. The space next to is a big empty space. I. e. -642 building is no longer there.

    Rua Vergueiro, 2339: Went on Mon 3:30 pm. 5 girls rating 6/10, looks age 30.90/30 180/ HR. I was asked to come on Friday to see more girls.

    Rua Dr Jose de Queiros Aranha, 82: This is a new place not in the maps. On Mon 4 pm, 4 girls, rating 6/10, all looks age 30.100/30,200/60. Rooms are average, with common shower, no hot water.

    Rua Dr Jose de Quieros Aranha, 148:15 girls, 5 presented, rating 6-7/10. Other girls were busy or on lunch. 140/30 190/60. 10 am-10 pm, Sun 11 am-9 pm. I was told Fri 4 pm is best time visit. The receptionist guy spoke good english, and he told the owner here is same as Clinica Tangara.

    Rua Machado de Assis, 449: It seems the building is going through construction and not being occupied. I saw 3 guys inside, seems to be construction workers. One guy gave me the above address 'Rua Dr Jose de Quieros Aranha, 148'. So, he knows why I was there and since he gave the address, I assumed the building is not occupied.

    Av. Guimaraes Passos, 399: A young girl, looks age 25, answered from inside. She told no massagem. Maybe they are discreet and said no to me.

    Rua Bartolomeu de Gusmao, 147: This seems to be a popular place, I have seen 5 guys in 20 minutes I was there. Hours 11 am-7 pm, Sat noon-6 pm, Closed on Sundays and holidays. 185/60, 275/90. Four hands - 310. I don't understand why this is popular. You rarely get to see the girls in person, only on photos even while you are at the location. Wait time for the girl is like 1-2 hours. I didn't want to risk choosing a girl just based on photos. For eg: Anita looks good on photos, but not when I saw in person. I appreciate if someone could explain why this is a popular place.

    Villa Mariana. South:

    Rua. Dos Otonis, 541: On Sat 2:50 pm, it was closed. The entrance to 2nd floor has a sign saying it's a hair saloon (barberia).

    Rua dos Otonis, 694: On Sat 3 pm, it was closed. I rang / knocked, after some time a man from inside told something in Portuguese. He didn't even open the door, I just heard the voice. My best guess is he said it's closed. So, maybe it is closed on Saturdays. All signs for this being a higher end place. Semi discreet place, parking lot in front, camera at the entrance.

    Rua Loefgren, 1438: On Sat 3:30 pm, 1 girl 7/10,3 others were busy. 250/ HR FS, 190/30 FS. I was told half of the girls will be on vacation on Saturdays. When I asked for best time to visit to see more girls, he told me come at 1 pm on Monday (or maybe any weekday). 11 am-9 pm, Sat 11 am-7 pm. He told they are open on alternative Sundays.

    Rua Loefgren, 927: Went on Sat 3:45 pm. It was closed. I rang, but no one opened. There is a sign on the side that says 'Vendo'.

    Rua Luis Gois, 820: On Sat 4 pm, closed. I rang / knocked, but no one opened. But it's still the same place, since the sign outside lists their whatsapp number which is same one in ISG maps.

    Rua Dom ANtonino Galvao, 266: Went on Sat 4:30 pm. Saw 5-7 girls, rating 6-7/10.140/30 190/ HR. A guy I met at Clinica Tangara told that this place, along with Clinica Tangara and 'Rua Dr Jose de Quieros Aranha, 148' are by the same owner. Seems he is right looking at the pricing structure.
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  13. #16120

    I know.

    What you want to say.

    I also prefer sometimes direkt booking, but only when I have a status level there and get some extra % or a coupon code on birthday etc 😁 . But sometimes I have to choose another path, and I will definetly not pay the big ones 10-30% more than necessary. Because you also surely know, that their prices (fees) have to generate a big plus to satisfy their stockholders. 😂.

    And yes, on that platform you have to register before you can see the prices, because thei are (in average, not every time of course) so low in comparison to the average travel industry prices, that they are now allowed to show directly (according the so called RateParityAgreement between the hotels and the big portals. If you have heard of that) . E. g in Vegas, in the top notch hotels I saved very very often hundreds of $$ booking with them 😎.

    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    Nitro, I have been playing this game a long time and I learned to only book with the hotel sites themselves and a handful of reputable internet booking sites like Expedia, Booking, and Agoda. 90% of the time I get the lowest rate possible although occasionally I see an extremely attractive, low ball, hotel price from some internet outfit that does not have the best reputation or online reviews and you know what? I don't even consider the offer because it is risky and I don't like risky when it comes to my hotel reservations. With direct corporate hotel reservations and with reservations on sites like Expedia et al, I know my reservation will be honored exactly as stated and I know I will get a refund if one is necessary. With these lowball sites I don't know anything.

    But I am glad travel-4-less.com worked for you. I checked out their website and they shunted me off to locktrip.com. Now I don't know who these guys are or how reliable they are, or what their track record is, but I played along to see just how low their prices really were. But I hit a dead end at the next step because the locktrip would not show me its hotel prices without my giving them my email address which I did not feel like doing. Stalemate. But like I said, I am aware of several lowball travel websites and I don't do business with them because their overall consumer reviews vary from good to terrible.

  14. #16119
    Quote Originally Posted by Nitro2000  [View Original Post]
    It is not necessary to pay that amounts for hotels if you know how to do it the right way.

    For Sao Paulo, I often book the hotels directly with them (If they have a rewards program) during the cyberweek in November (big discounts), if I already know when I want to go the following year.

    If not possible, I book via travel-4-less.com and can safe often a small fortune (that I can spend then for other expenses).

    Use WWVRY as an extra 5% for first booking, but no guarantee. For me it worked (few months ago).
    Nitro, I have been playing this game a long time and I learned to only book with the hotel sites themselves and a handful of reputable internet booking sites like Expedia, Booking, and Agoda. 90% of the time I get the lowest rate possible although occasionally I see an extremely attractive, low ball, hotel price from some internet outfit that does not have the best reputation or online reviews and you know what? I don't even consider the offer because it is risky and I don't like risky when it comes to my hotel reservations. With direct corporate hotel reservations and with reservations on sites like Expedia et al, I know my reservation will be honored exactly as stated and I know I will get a refund if one is necessary. With these lowball sites I don't know anything.

    But I am glad travel-4-less.com worked for you. I checked out their website and they shunted me off to locktrip.com. Now I don't know who these guys are or how reliable they are, or what their track record is, but I played along to see just how low their prices really were. But I hit a dead end at the next step because the locktrip would not show me its hotel prices without my giving them my email address which I did not feel like doing. Stalemate. But like I said, I am aware of several lowball travel websites and I don't do business with them because their overall consumer reviews vary from good to terrible.

  15. #16118
    Quote Originally Posted by AxelHeyst  [View Original Post]
    During Covid, demand for hotel space was at an all-time low. I booked the Renaissance for $110/ night and the only other hotel guests I saw at breakfast were airline personal. Now all real 5 stars are priced over $150/ night and many like the Renaissance, Hilton, Intercontinental are over $200/ night. The JW Marriott is over $350/ night and Fasano is over are over $400/ night which is crazy except that it is a case of supply and demand.

    So, I have adapted. I have no problem staying at quality 4-star hotels priced between $75 and $125 depending on the room and the dates. I prefer a large room with balcony for doobie smoking with my favorite girls, a separate bathtub for my favorite girls again, an outdoor swimming pool, and a good location. The inflated prices you are seeing at the Double Tree may have something to do with Formula 1 week. Look / see what hotel prices are for the weeks and months following F1.
    I had a similar experience with my usual go to hotel during the height of covid, hotel cadoro in SP. 39 usd in December 2020!! Today the same room will set you back 93 usd!!

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