Sao Paulo Reports

[WyattEarp]

I have a whole hard drive full of Helpee fotos. When Helpee was in session you could find me in Rio 3-4 x / a year. And don't forget Terraco Atlantico (last foto), that was a whole different experience all by itself! Plus, the food was pretty decent!

That's funny. In an effort to offer a brief contrast, I actually edited mentioning the cafe in front of Help after I wrote it in my post.

There was so much talent in the cafe outside, we often never made it into the club. Damn, I miss those planter boxes.

Thanks for the photo uploads. You're right. TA had some decent steak and fish at affordable prices.

[HiddenEye]

I didn't negotiate this time, I already had a fixation with those two and had to secure one at least LOL she didn't control the time. It was longer than one hour I'm sure.

US $ 1 K for 6-8 hours with those two girls going pervert. I don't see it too expensive.

How much would that cost in Germany or the States?

Have you even tried to negotiate?

[Gabbarsing]

Anyone has map link for highend clinica in SP? I know a few in Moema area (Prima, Aborabar, Kama etc.) and places like Tingara, Lotus.

But a google map link would be nice. Love to hear any clinica recommendation that I haven't mentioned above.

[MiamiBoy1]

The third time the blonde was alone, fortunately and unfortunately because I was already decided to fuck them threesome. So I ran into her in the bar and took her to a table. We had good chemistry and she told me she liked me (I felt like blessed LOL) and that would leave with me. One hour R1500. I asked for her friend, the ninfeta, but she told me she had left the city for a couple of months because she enjoyed the beaches of Santa Catarina.

I'm glad you had a great time, but $300 for 1 HR? Ouch. These girls quote crazy high rates sometimes. Have you even tried to negotiate?

I love Brazil, but these rates keep me from coming back and make me stay longer in Colombia, because here $300 is about 1,4 million COP. You can literally have an overnight date with ANY girl you want for that price.

1000 USD pernoite is crazy high. This is not a rich world country after all.

[Kcrl01]

For us old Help aficionados....

I have a whole hard drive full of Helpee fotos. When Helpee was in session you could find me in Rio 3-4 x / a year. And don't forget Terraco Atlantico (last foto), that was a whole different experience all by itself! Plus, the food was pretty decent!

[HiddenEye]

It sounds like an old nickname, Dynamic Duo, a waiter in Cafe Photo who is my friend called them like that. Brunette and Blonde girl. The waiter is around his late 50's, once he found and saved my credit card a night I was too drunk and got me a taxi. Muito gente fina (top guy).

The brunette is super cute and looks like a ninfeta (brazilians call that girls who look young teens). Lovely and classy. The blonde drove a sport car and I knew they left to northern Sao Paulo every morning.

I saw them two times in Cafe Photo November and December last year. They always arrived together like very close friends, hand by hand, dressed with very classy cocktail dresses and the last time the ninfeta brunette was in casual clothes with a cap and playing with a lollypop in her mouth. They always left with guys who looked like very wealthy brazilians. Their threesome service was around R5000 pernoite, and did everything. Anal, bondage, lesbic, golden shower, domination, etc etc. The waiter told me all that and I was getting very intrigued because it started to sound like a sex legend.

That night they left the club when I was watching them and melting in a table. Hoping the negotiation could fall. But I was realistic, they looked like could afford any crazy request from this mad girls.

The third time the blonde was alone, fortunately and unfortunately because I was already decided to fuck them threesome. So I ran into her in the bar and took her to a table. We had good chemistry and she told me she liked me (I felt like blessed LOL) and that would leave with me. One hour R1500. I asked for her friend, the ninfeta, but she told me she had left the city for a couple of months because she enjoyed the beaches of Santa Catarina.

So we left to my hotel. She left her car in the club parking and we took a taxi. It was incredible to see her walking up the stairs to the hotel lobby in those high heels and black short shiny cocktail dress.

I've already told you guys that I don't run into 10 escorts a week like a machine gun, one or two classy girls a week are just fine for me. And I always keep some kind of memory of such encounters. Anything their pantyhose, a thong, lipstick, pictures or video whenever possible. So I can recall everything and convince myself it really happened.

That white ass and pulling her silky blonde hair (she asked for it) doing a powerful doggy style makes me maaaaad! Jajajaja.

Thank you Santa Claus!

[WyattEarp]

And yes, Scandallo I will do this week too. Sounds like what Help once was in Rio, so, need to go before that closes too.

Yes, comparing Scandallo to the old Help Disco is fair in terms of the sheer volume of freelance girls. Scandallo is certainly more coin (pricier) and classier.

For us old Help aficionados, you couldn't beat cheap drinks, low / no cover and no exit fee. It was kind of a casual, blue jeans type of place with no pretension. If you had been to Help, you know what I mean.

[Nounce]

I... I have long come to the conclusion that money isn't a guarantee for results. Like I saw yesterday, had a really good time for 150, a bit far off, but the clinicas in Moema are same price,....And again it doesn't matter the price, splove, clubmodel super expensive, and pointless because you never get what you hope for. With few exceptions. ....

We know you have tried the 150 but the good one seems to be the exception. Did you try clubmodel to come to the same conclusion? I am going to say it based on my personal experience. The odds will be better if money is not an issue.

[Agpov]

who sadly lost both her kidneys to the fucksine bullshit.

Say WHAT now?

[DreamCarnarvon]

My initial reaction after reading stinky squid's post was the same as Axel Heyst, Steve and MaxLee88. But you have to give credit to him for taking the effort to sift through 95% poo in order to try and find that 5% gold. Its not a knock. I did the same thing squid did back in 2019, looking for those rare diamonds in the rough on photoacompanhantes. Some encounters I had:

#1 A lady who was about 30 years older than her photos she posted on her ad. 50 some BBW mature. Fortunately she was still attractive enough for me and being a BBW lover, we had an incredibly memorable session. Total GFE and she did everything to try and please me. She was so good that later on I hit her up to set up a threesome.

#2 Mid 20 girl working out of a rundown apartment. She was the girl in the photos, except 50 pounds heavier. Chubby but not fat fat. She was still hella cute for me. She was passive and service was meh. But she had a friendly personality. Had my portuguese been as good as it is now, I definitely would've went back and groomed her into a GFE.

#3 Straight bait and switch in a flat in the Bela Vista neighborhood. The girl was actually decent looking. She locked the door and blocked it. So I couldn't get out until I gave her the money (half of what she charged).

#4 Another straight bait and switch in a flat in the Consolação neighborhood. She turned out to be a mulata instead of a morena. I learned from #3, turned around and bolted like Usain Bolt.

#5 A residental house on the outskirts of SP. The girl was exactly as the photo, nice and thick. Face was tolerable as well. Service was above average but was a bit rushed. Very friendly personality. Again, had my portuguese been better, probably would've been able to gotten more GFE out of her.

#6 Bait and switch but she was a 7 on my scale. Met her in my airbnb and decided to let her stay. Beautiful tall curvy fit body. Unfortunately she was full of frescuras. Ended the session within 5 minutes, gave her the money and told her to leave.

#7 A lactating girl in her mid 20's. Cute, girl next door type. Body matched the photos, tall and slim. She was quiet as a mouse. I had her twice and we barely spoke to each other in person. But she was a real gem! Super GFE sem frescuras. I still remember bits of details of our hot and sexy sessions.

#8 Another lactating girl in her late 20's. Completely different from the one above. Super outgoing and fun. Loved to talk. Ironically, she was terrible in bed, not experienced at all. She tried to get me to take her out on a date but I ignored her as she was terrible in the bed.

#9 A third lacating girl in her mid 20's. Similar to #7. Again body matched the photos. Due to my then almost nonexistant portuguese, we barely talked. But our chemistry was pretty decent. Second session was not as good as the first session.

#10 A gem in her mid 20's. We met at a motel. Arrived on time, considering her being a brazilian kkk. Beautiful and friendly with an amazing curvacious body. Face was attractive as well. Told me she had just come back from working in Europe where she was charging the clients a lot more. Service was a 9/10! Her BBBJ still remains to this day top 5. Looking back, I regret not repeating with her.

#11 A thick mulata somewhere in her 20's. Never got to see her in the nude. Face was tolerable. This turned out to be a weird encounter. We orginally met at a motel close to her way out in zona leste. But the motel wouldn't accept a digital photo of my passport. So she agreed to meet me the next day in a motel closer to me over whatsapp. But then she ghosted me.

#12 A true BBW like the ones in Plumperpass, working out of a private flat. Beautiful face. Unfortunately she was cold and I could tell she didn't like her job. Body 10/10 but service 3/10.

#13 Another BBW but not as plump as #12. Private flat in the Republic neighberhood. Body matched the photos. Face was decent. We had great chemistry in spite of my nonexistant portuguese. Service was great and not rushed. Got her number afterwards but never did repeat with her.

#14 A lactating mulata in her mid 30's. Body was out of shape and below average. Face was bit below average. She talked me into doing a threesome with her prima. The photos of her prima she send me definitely didn't matchup. She was barely lactating and her prima was slight better looking than her. But both of them were nice and friendly and tried hard to get me to cum. They invited me to join them for lunch but I declined.

That's all I can remember off the top of my head. 6 out of 14 positive sessions I think is a decent number. The thing is you have to go into photoacompanhantes with low expectation and with a effecient strategy to avoid the fakes. And having at least an intermidate level of portuguese would greatly help improving the odds of receiving GFE sessions. Even so, I haven't tried photoacompanhantes since then. Wouldn't mind giving it another go but only as a supplement to the clinicas.

[Stinky Squid]

It's because I have been fooled by this photoacompanhante stuff for too long. I got some real gold there, but the vast majority is crap. I have indeed never ventured to the venues like clinicas, or rather, I only stumbled into them now. When staying in SP was always around centro bela vista, and Moema always seemed off. But then I went down there anyway, just never to these renowned clinicas. Frankly, I haven't even read a lot of the forum here, despite (or because) I have lived on and off for over a decade in Brasil. And no, my budget isn't small, funny thing is, my first Brazilian hooker I ordered in over 12 years ago cost 350 reais, same as today, with a vastly worse forex rate. I have long come to the conclusion that money isn't a guarantee for results. Like I saw yesterday, had a really good time for 150, a bit far off, but the clinicas in Moema are same price, so. And yes, Scandallo I will do this week too. Sounds like what Help once was in Rio, so, need to go before that closes too. I certainly was too focused on this online site stuff, but really I now know that that's almost futile. And again it doesn't matter the price, splove, clubmodel super expensive, and pointless because you never get what you hope for. With few exceptions. Going to see my porn starlet "friend" Gi Paes, who sadly lost both her kidneys to the fucksine bullshit. That girl I found through photoacompanhante and boy was she real and good. The sweetest thing up for anything, and also not cheap. So what I found about price is that expensive is no guarantee, but someone who is good and in demand does move her prices up. But just because she asks a high price is of no significance. Some of the girls here really like what they are doing.

[KcDark]

The only question I have after reading your report is why would you want to waste your time with all this bullshit when there are so many respectable clinicas, great boates, and genuine high class call girl sites in SP?

I am sorry SS, but there is nothing I see of value in your report. I have been to SP 4 times which cumulatively comes to roughly half a year in the city of women, and I was never tempted to follow the path you outlined. Why would look for shit when there is gold all around you?

Hey, can you recommend any of the high class call girl sites? I'll be there in March and want to sample what is considered "high class" in SP.

[MaxLee88]

So I'm going to guess you have a very low budget. Like 200 R or something? Otherwise you would go to Casarao or someplace and meet hot girls face to fCe and do the deed. But even with a tiny budget why in the world are you exploring all these crap venues that are known to be crap and stated as such here? Why not just go to Tangara which is cheap and well respected and you see the girls face to face and decide? Why the dick deathwish?

Clinicas in Moema all have good variety and attractive girls that you can see in a lineup right in front of you face to face with prices from 150 are and at night as steve said head to Casarao and scandello. Why anyone uses online agencies with all the scams and fotoshopping I have no idea. Can't wait to my return trip last week of March.

[Steve 9696]

Hi fellas. After a disappointing experience in Thailand, I am finally back in Brazil. Arrived in So Paulo. Full of inflated expectations from scavenging the photoacompanhantes, I spent about 2 days to check and double check the scams and frauds. My estimation is that 90% of what appears in the photoacompanhantes is total fraud and bullshit. There are certain addresses that keep appearing, including:

* Avenida Ceci 729, Vila Mariana. Been there before, total disappointment and I walked away, but one user on Twitter reports that he felt threatened by a dude in there, and escaped assault or kidnapping.

* Rua Concelheiro Furtado 745, Liberdade. Everyone reporting disappointment, scam.

* Rua Frana Pinto 601, Vila Mariana. Been there twice now, disappointment every time, but I have some second thoughts.

* Rua Chui 19, Paraiso. The usual fraudulent ads, but there might be potential if they were just honest instead of lying.

These addresses, I think, are what you would call "clinicas", I. E. , they are normal residential houses or (former) small guest houses, with 3 or more rooms per floor, rooms of the size of residential bedrooms, one shared bathroom. They are not cubicle style or massively retrofitted super small rooms.

The problem with those is that they advertise non existing girls (or 10 year old fotos) promising everything under the the sun, and faking that you talk with the girl but you don't really, they have a shared number or whatever they do.

However, it's not all black and white. Just stupid. Once we adjust our expectations and disregard those photos, there could be utility in just visiting these places and ask for whatever available options and pick. Frana Pinto 601 for example, I went there to see a preggy. And while there were two ads for same address (so improbable) there actually was a preggy there, after some waiting she showed up. And while totally not what's in the photos or age promise, wasn't to bad, I would have gone for it, but she was super cold and avoided any contact, that I declined after all this waiting. But, more importantly, while I was waiting I saw at least one girl I would have chosen if I wasn't so focused on the preggy. That other girl seemed young-ish and decent looking and nice to talk to and probably could have been nice to play with.

At Rua Chui 19, Paraiso, I was waiting for one who, who knows if she exists or not. Was greeted by a passable other one, and while waiting in the room in came one super cute (in my view) girl, who I would have taken on the spot, if only she would have been a little warmer. And since these things depend a lot on the chemistry and if she likes us, it was a near-miss.

Yesterday I was in a Clinica "My Lady" way out there in Osasco Butant, Av. Escola Politecnica 4561. That place was likely fake too, but since I was already on my way exploring, I figured I would check them out. Again, the ads were misleading, I had wanted a dupla, hoping they would be like bi-lesbian things with girls kissing going on, what I got was total disorganization, despite informing of my arrival over an hour and staying in contact, I arrived on time to random scheduled and occupied girls. Only one of my two were available, I decided to go ahead anyway, and when I met her, I was not overwhelmed, but since I decided, I was going to make the best out of it. At 150 reais, what could go wrong. We had to wait for a half hour for a room to be ready. This allowed me to relax on the sofa, had a little small talk, I just had my hand on her. And it felt OK. When we finally got into the room, I gave the receptionist another 150 saying if the other girl was going to be ready soon-ish, she should send her in.

When the two of us started, the girl I was with was actually quite sweet (to my surprise, as our initial waiting time had not been so great). I rate that as 100% better than what I had experienced in Thailand. There was a real little connection going on. She seemed to have been having some fun too. It took me only 30 minutes to finish, which was good. And the nice thing was, the girl just enjoyed hanging out together the rest of the time, no hurry to get out. When we were like 10 min before end of the hour, the other one came in. And I was sort-a spent already, but I liked what I saw, and she seemed nice. So, I think I will go back soon to see her.

What I learned from that is that these houses gather lots of bad experiences because of their lying and the communication and scheduling nightmare, but with expectations adjusted to reality, and ready to explore what's there, it can lead to pleasant encounters.

I will now search for more reports on "clinicas" and try some others.

Then there are the bloody dammed "agncias", those are old hags or guys talking on whatsapp also, of course, fraudulent ads, and when you actually move forward with an encounter, they shuffle to quickly assign you to someone, and she then is not only not the person of the fotos, but also you never talked to her and she doesn't know, much less agree to, what was promised. This scam is so wide spread that you can't really tie it down. These agncia scams fall into two parts: residential flats and motel encounters. Examples of residential flats are:

* Rua Avanhandava 459, Bela Vista.

* Rua Genebra 296, Bela Vista.

But then the motel scams can be anywhere. The one who shows up will probably not have talked to you aside from being probably not quite as described. One example was my last encounter before I left Brazil 8 months ago. The other was on my first day of exploring back here. One told me to meet at.

* Hotel Lido Plaza, with "freelancer" ad.

But me being clever, I said I won't take the room but meet in front. Showed up and immediate disappointment said so and we parted ways. I might have handed her 30 reais for the "Uber" that was really the transport dude. Bullshit.

I was also looking for a dupla in Jardins, Alameda Campinas 675. I had little hope, but kind-a in the mood of exploring and just discarding shit. The two women I met were about 10 years past age of whatever fotos and, stupidly not well kept. Then turned out to be quite "chatas" as we say here, starting with their voices. Voice is a good indicator, therefore, I like it when they give away short voice messages, this allows to assess age. The metallic screechyness and the annoying affectation ("estamos no ceeeentro t? This "t?" with raised voice, is so annoying, and shows a horrible attitude.) You know then you are either talking with a phone operator or an annoying woman.

Another thing to be able to see these scams for what they are is to contact many at once. Then check the replies. When you receive more than one response that is exactly the same, could be an automatic message or just an "Oiii", and if the person is constantly online and responds without even considering your question (I had one responding "Oiii" and "estou disponivel" several times. Then you know this is one of those bloody agencias and you can just forget it.

But even with these freelancers and flat dwellers, there is not all black and white. Sometimes you do have a decent girl show up, but you have to talk first, before agreeing to anything, to re-hash (or hash for the first time for her) what you want. And have no qualms of sending her back.

IMO, punters should make the cost of lying and scamming much higher by sending them back and walking away every time, so these girls stop the lying and stop participating with the scammer dudes. I think there might even be a protection racket going on, where these scammer dudes beat up real freelancers in order to later offer her protection if she participates in the scam op.

Finally, "photos verificadas" on photoacompanhante means nothing.

Higher price is no guarantee of better quality.

Having positive TDs only means something if it is more than one and not something obviously of a scam ring.

So, over all, the cost of following all these bad leads is pretty high. Definitely just sitting down in a Gogo Bar drinking beer in Pattaya is much easier. But then again, I find Brazilian girls much more delicious and having no language barrier, I can negotiate my way to something decent and worth repeating much easier.

So I'm going to guess you have a very low budget. Like 200 R or something? Otherwise you would go to Casarao or someplace and meet hot girls face to fCe and do the deed. But even with a tiny budget why in the world are you exploring all these crap venues that are known to be crap and stated as such here? Why not just go to Tangara which is cheap and well respected and you see the girls face to face and decide? Why the dick deathwish?

[Axel Heyst]

So, over all, the cost of following all these bad leads is pretty high. Definitely just sitting down in a Gogo Bar drinking beer in Pattaya is much easier. But then again, I find Brazilian girls much more delicious and having no language barrier, I can negotiate my way to something decent and worth repeating much easier.

The only question I have after reading your report is why would you want to waste your time with all this bullshit when there are so many respectable clinicas, great boates, and genuine high class call girl sites in SP?

I am sorry SS, but there is nothing I see of value in your report. I have been to SP 4 times which cumulatively comes to roughly half a year in the city of women, and I was never tempted to follow the path you outlined. Why would look for shit when there is gold all around you?