Sao Paulo Reports

[Fewdie]

If the dollar falls to 2-3 R /1 USD. Would you still do 2000 R for 24 hours?

Quality like appearance or performance? When I'm in the US I only look for Brazilian girls LOL. But they usually charge at least 400 usd a hour, for 2000 R I get over 24 hrs in Brazil.

Many of us monger outside of the US not because of the price but instead not to shit in our own backyard.

[The Critic]

In the room, both of us shower and she takes a bit longer than normal. Gets into bed and we go DATY, BBBJ and BBFS. Since I came that morning, it was taking me longer than usual. So she then decided to roll over to her belly and tells me to get to top of her and fuck her that way. This time she guides me in. Straight into her ass. She turns around and asks if I like anal. I was like FUCK YES. She says that is why she took so long in the shower. To clean herself properly and now that she was fully relaxed, she was ready. That got me excited and was banging her ass and she totally enjoyed till she came and then I pulled out a few seconds later.

New food places I tried:

Leggera Pizza Napoletana ranked #83 out of the top 100 pizza places in the world. Really good. If you like pizza, you will like their pizza.

Restaurante Il Pescatore Mediterrneo their shrimp risotto was awesome and their oysters were super fresh.

Pastel Kyoto on Avenida Paulista near the Renaissance a pretty good fresh cooked pastel. L with fresh sugarcane juice.

Casa de Ostras Mercado Municipal freshly shucked oysters and they cook anything you buy from the seafood sellers. She got to try the lobster which she liked but for me it was nothing amazing. I have had better but I think it was just the place. They were too busy and they really don't have the space to take time to do it right.

G&T Gin Bar specializing in a variety of gin and tonics. Pretty cool place to chill and hangout. Not too loud so you can talk.

Well. That does it for me this year. Next trip to Brazil will be in April since American Airlines changed their status qualification timeline.

Good story / post. Looks like you had a great time. Also thanks for the Food / Restaurant recommendations.

[Vagabundo1]

Local Brazilian men hate rich foreigners hacking into their good times with their well trained hoars!

Here's the review site forumcutuca.com for Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, etc. The owner of these clinicas moved all the info there if you want to read it.

Creating account on it is a ***** thou, because the forum banned gmail, hotmail, yahoo. Basically all the free emails account that I know of, but you can read it without having to sign up.

[FlowState985]

Here's the review site forumcutuca.com for Prime, Miruna, Enjoy, etc. The owner of these clinicas moved all the info there if you want to read it.

Creating account on it is a ***** thou, because the forum banned gmail, hotmail, yahoo. Basically all the free emails account that I know of, but you can read it without having to sign up.

[Anaggie]

After the first night, we woke up too late for the hotel breakfast and instead had a good session before she left to get more clothes and take care of some personal stuff. She called her own Uber, took approx 3 hours to get stuff done and she came back. Never once asked for the Uber fares. She had told me that she might have to leave Friday evening for a few hours for some school stuff but she needed up rescheduling so I wouldn't miss the time with her.

We spent the weekend eating, drinking, walking around the hotel area, and headed to Mercado Municipal where she tried her first lobster and some exotic fruits. She is from Bahia originally so she like to eat spicy and likes to experiment with new tastes which definitely knocks her up a few points in my book. Most girls don't even want to try anything different.

Friday night was probably the best sexual session we had. After eating dinner at a new restaurant I found, we went to a gin and tonic bar to have a few drinks and talk. It was cool spot and after a few drinks, she looks at me and tells me she wants to fuck. So. Off we go back to the hotel.

In the room, both of us shower and she takes a bit longer than normal. Gets into bed and we go DATY, BBBJ and BBFS. Since I came that morning, it was taking me longer than usual. So she then decided to roll over to her belly and tells me to get to top of her and fuck her that way. This time she guides me in. Straight into her ass. She turns around and asks if I like anal. I was like FUCK YES. She says that is why she took so long in the shower. To clean herself properly and now that she was fully relaxed, she was ready. That got me excited and was banging her ass and she totally enjoyed till she came and then I pulled out a few seconds later.

Saturday and Sunday pass without any issues with her. She just loved getting fucked in the pussy and the ass. She also kept her word. Anytime I was hard, she would deal with it.

Sunday evening she left around 730 pm, paid her our negotiated price for the weekend and she called her own Uber and didn't ask for the cost. In fact, she never asked about her money. We made our deal and that was it. Nothing upfront and she didn’t even check to see if I had the cash. I paid her in the end and she put it her purse and said thanks. I told her to count it but she said that she trusts me and I don’t come across like a person who would rip people off. This has had to be the best version of IOP I have ever had in Brazil. This girl checked all the boxes for me and made sure she did her job properly and with all the gusto. Never said no to anything and just enjoyed her weekend. We talked about getting a threesome with her and my girl from Recife so let's see how that might play out. She is ok with interchanging as long as everyone has been tested. Hopefully, I might be able to schedule it for April.

New food places I tried:

Leggera Pizza Napoletana ranked #83 out of the top 100 pizza places in the world. Really good. If you like pizza, you will like their pizza.

Restaurante Il Pescatore Mediterrneo their shrimp risotto was awesome and their oysters were super fresh.

Pastel Kyoto on Avenida Paulista near the Renaissance a pretty good fresh cooked pastel. L with fresh sugarcane juice.

Casa de Ostras Mercado Municipal freshly shucked oysters and they cook anything you buy from the seafood sellers. She got to try the lobster which she liked but for me it was nothing amazing. I have had better but I think it was just the place. They were too busy and they really don't have the space to take time to do it right.

G&T Gin Bar specializing in a variety of gin and tonics. Pretty cool place to chill and hangout. Not too loud so you can talk.

Well. That does it for me this year. Next trip to Brazil will be in April since American Airlines changed their status qualification timeline.

[Fewdie]

I notice in all of the photos in this forum of her that her makeup plays a big difference in her looks. Some girls look totally different with it while some girl looks better without it. The only way to find out is push her in a swimming pool and see if she comes out hot as before (jk). I personally prefer people without makeup.

My answer is no in general. The problem is how do we agree on what is the same quality? Last year I posted this same picture, and there was at least one member saying one can find 20 - 30% of girls in Scandallo that look like her. But I saw absolutely none the time I was there up to this day. That just show how each one of us see beauty differently. LOL.

It's like some unique luxury rental properties that cost a fraction of the price of US properties but can command high rental price similar to US properties. It is because it's uniqueness and in limited supply and they are only targeted to certain type of customers. These properties will be in demand as long as there are sufficient quaintly of customers even if it is small so it does not matter what general public think.

[UniversalX]

Here are a few more pics of Louise, the girl that got away. KKK.

Attractive, Oh well, in SP there are plenty the same if not better looking. Just got to find them or right place right time.

[Maelstrom]

I know this girl a little bit. KKK. Her stage name is Louise Nowak. I saw her add on Club Model in April 2022 when I was last in SP. IMHO she was one of the best lookers on that website, so I texted her. She responded quickly and seemed friendly. As our conversation continued, she sent me a zip file with 75 pics and videos of herself, and after a while we got down to business. She wanted 1500 BR which included a 500 br advance payment. In the friendliest way possible I told her I thought 1500 br was a tad high and asked if she would come down in price a little. I also told her I wouldn't send any money in advance. She took my words graciously, but she would not lower her terms or ask, so we ended the conversation on a "maybe we can get together some other time" friendly note. I mean there is no reason to be negative or insulting just because a girl and I can't come to terms. I still wanted her.

Anyway, the next day she texted me and asked if still I wanted to see her. I said I did, but I told her 1500 br was too high and this time I offered her 900 br, but sadly, she was still hung up on the 1500 BR which I wouldn't agree too. There was no mention of the 500 BR down payment. So, we left it at that although during our conversations I had told her I was an American who frequently flew down to SP on business and that if she ever changed her mind, she should call me, and we could have a good time together. I stayed in SP for 6 weeks that trip, but I never heard back from her again. Oh well, but I don't really care. I would not say that there are a ton of Scandallo girls (20% to 30%) as sexy as Louise Nowak, but there are number of high-quality lookers there (5 to 15) on any given night that can match her on looks plus talking and flirting with a super attractive Tier 1 girl in the bar is a far better way to find something good than arranging something blind over the internet. Sorry Louise, but it is true.

Here are a few more pics of Louise, the girl that got away. KKK.

She's hot I wouldve just paid without the advance of course, as you said not many that look like her.

[Axel Heyst]

My answer is no in general. The problem is how do we agree on what is the same quality? Last year I posted this same picture, and there was at least one member saying one can find 20 - 30% of girls in Scandallo that look like her. But I saw absolutely none the time I was there up to this day. That just show how each one of us see beauty differently. LOL.

It's like some unique luxury rental properties that cost a fraction of the price of US properties but can command high rental price similar to US properties. It is because it's uniqueness and in limited supply and they are only targeted to certain type of customers. These properties will be in demand as long as there are sufficient quaintly of customers even if it is small so it does not matter what general public think.

I know this girl a little bit. KKK. Her stage name is Louise Nowak. I saw her add on Club Model in April 2022 when I was last in SP. IMHO she was one of the best lookers on that website, so I texted her. She responded quickly and seemed friendly. As our conversation continued, she sent me a zip file with 75 pics and videos of herself, and after a while we got down to business. She wanted 1500 BR which included a 500 br advance payment. In the friendliest way possible I told her I thought 1500 br was a tad high and asked if she would come down in price a little. I also told her I wouldn't send any money in advance. She took my words graciously, but she would not lower her terms or ask, so we ended the conversation on a "maybe we can get together some other time" friendly note. I mean there is no reason to be negative or insulting just because a girl and I can't come to terms. I still wanted her.

Anyway, the next day she texted me and asked if still I wanted to see her. I said I did, but I told her 1500 br was too high and this time I offered her 900 br, but sadly, she was still hung up on the 1500 BR which I wouldn't agree too. There was no mention of the 500 BR down payment. So, we left it at that although during our conversations I had told her I was an American who frequently flew down to SP on business and that if she ever changed her mind, she should call me, and we could have a good time together. I stayed in SP for 6 weeks that trip, but I never heard back from her again. Oh well, but I don't really care. I would not say that there are a ton of Scandallo girls (20% to 30%) as sexy as Louise Nowak, but there are number of high-quality lookers there (5 to 15) on any given night that can match her on looks plus talking and flirting with a super attractive Tier 1 girl in the bar is a far better way to find something good than arranging something blind over the internet. Sorry Louise, but it is true.

Here are a few more pics of Louise, the girl that got away. KKK.

[Hobbying]

Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?

Quality like appearance or performance? When I'm in the US I only look for Brazilian girls LOL. But they usually charge at least 400 usd a hour, for 2000 R I get over 24 hrs in Brazil.

Many of us monger outside of the US not because of the price but instead not to shit in our own backyard.

[Nounce]

..I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels..

I think one can still weed out the bad ones in the club. There are other factors that influence service. It is not obvious in this forum but it is more obvious in Medellin forum where members will discuss preparation like food, drinks, music, popcorn. Personally I just gave in because the girls were hot.

What is missing in this post is that if it is someone else who does not last long, that person can ask for two pops as he said she promised the world.

6) Scandallo. ... Did get a price though. She opened with 1000, I got her down to 400, which she accepted. She promised the world, including anal. I know this is apparently a great deal at Scandallo these days, but LOL, nope. She probably thinks I am a 10-min guy with her thing for Asians (I can easily go a full hour) ...

I think two tier pricing has always existed as long as the club does not regulate it. Last year, I was paying 500 but some members were posting much higher prices. I think the current pricing just added a layer of dishonesty. A girl I went with for 500 last year now wants 1000 but went down to 500 automatically and the exchange last year was at 5. 3. Basically I guess all regulars that I know like Bianca can be had at old price that is 50% off. The less attractive ones are more honest and start with 500.

I have the most sessions with Scandallo girls but the best sessions I have are at Tangara. That is by far the best place for me and ironically it is the least expensive. The place is a little rundown. What make me go back are the number of girls they have and the new girls they have are just unmatched by any clincas. The best BBBJs, the best camel slides all are from Tangra. I still remember the girl teasing me repeatedly while doing came slide, do you want condom? do you want condom?; I kept answering NO NO NO. LOL. Just to add more context, I went to Prime almost every week but I left empty handed most of the times and always ended up in Miruna.

[Nounce]

Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?

My answer is no in general. The problem is how do we agree on what is the same quality? Last year I posted this same picture, and there was at least one member saying one can find 20 - 30% of girls in Scandallo that look like her. But I saw absolutely none the time I was there up to this day. That just show how each one of us see beauty differently. LOL.

It's like some unique luxury rental properties that cost a fraction of the price of US properties but can command high rental price similar to US properties. It is because it's uniqueness and in limited supply and they are only targeted to certain type of customers. These properties will be in demand as long as there are sufficient quaintly of customers even if it is small so it does not matter what general public think.

[Fewdie]

Would you pay more for a Brazilian girl than one in the US with same quality?

[Hobbying]

Interesting observations. I noticed similar trends. An uptick early this year and the hotter girls asking for more.

From my personal experiences, tier 1 girls generally settle for 800 to 1000 and tier 2 girls settle for 500 to 800 for ST / HR). The funny thing is that the few girls who won't take 1000 for ST / HR (usually insist on at least 1200 to 1500 for ST / HR) and thus consider themselves Tier 1 or upper Tier 1, I only consider them to be tier 2 level. So it was easy for me to walk away. Just goes to show different strokes for different folks and everyone has a different sense of beauty.

It seems most of the girls also consider LT differently than I do. Most of the girls see no difference between 2-3 hrs at my hotel vs. A pernoite until the morning. They just charged the same for leaving the club "Saida", whether it's for a few hours or an overnight until the morning.

For LT, I've found most tier 1 girls will open at 2000 to 3000 and accept a 1200 to 1500 counter right away, especially if they know you are not a newbie as 1) know the general pricing of the club and 2) is a potential repeat client. The tier 2 girls I've found will take 800 to 1200 for a pernoite.

As with the ST examples, a few won't budge and want at least 2 to 3 k for a pernoite. With one only going from 4500 down to 4000. Almost all of those girls, I don't even consider Tier 1 caliber so I just moved on.

The above also just goes to show that everyome have different tastes. I am glad that is the case or we would all be fighting for the same girls!

Most Asians seem to gravitate towards lighter skinned, cute and innocent gazelles. White Gringos are usually more varied. Locals Brazilians usually tanned, tall, slutty with big Ts and As. That's based on both my observations of which girls are sitting with which clients. And also what girls I spent time with tells me.

The last girl I spent time with on my most recent trip was a young, lightly tanned cute and pretty petite English speaking Brazilian girl with amazing natural the's. Perfect for "Russian"! Those large natural breasts on such a small and thin frame makes her stand out and is an unicorn in my eyes. She tells me few local guys go for her, but white Gringos and Asians (both locals and visitors) make up 80%+ of her client base.

I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels. I just pay what I am comfortable paying, even if it might be on the higher end of what locals and others tell me are the prevalent club rates. I also compare what regular / high end clinicas, other boates and online girls charge and make additional adjustments based on that info.

Inflation for the girls also, it now cost them 300 R to enter if they don't go 5 days a week. So between uber and their cost to go to work it could easily cost them 500 that night and they have no choice but to bump up their prices as well.

Quality control is why they bumping the price for girls to enter, this way they ensure the girls don't freelance and come to work 5 days a week and the weed out lower tier girls. Girls that can't commit to going will end up going to other boates where they have less restrictions or high fees to enter.

This gives them even more reason to prefer to talk to gringos since they know the guy is there to fuck and spend money.

[SocratesNY]

Inflation 2: Scandallo girly prices: Last year all the girls were happy with 500 br to 600 br. In April / May 2022 I noticed a two-tier system had evolved in Scandallo. Tier 1 girls or model quality girls were asking anywhere from 1000 br to 2000 br and Tier 2 girls or pretty girl next door types were asking under 1000 br. And I found this simple formula usually settled the issue: take the girls asking price divide by 2 and add 200 br. Every girl accepted my counter using this formula. Examples: 2000 br Tier 1 always accepted 1200 br and a 900 br Tier 2 always accepted 650 to 700 br. I am talking ST. LT is different, but I never do LT until a girl and I have some history together. Interestingly this 2-tier system does not exist at Bomboa where all the girls seem happy with 700 br or a little less.

Interesting observations. I noticed similar trends. An uptick early this year and the hotter girls asking for more.

From my personal experiences, tier 1 girls generally settle for 800 to 1000 and tier 2 girls settle for 500 to 800 for ST / HR). The funny thing is that the few girls who won't take 1000 for ST / HR (usually insist on at least 1200 to 1500 for ST / HR) and thus consider themselves Tier 1 or upper Tier 1, I only consider them to be tier 2 level. So it was easy for me to walk away. Just goes to show different strokes for different folks and everyone has a different sense of beauty.

It seems most of the girls also consider LT differently than I do. Most of the girls see no difference between 2-3 hrs at my hotel vs. A pernoite until the morning. They just charged the same for leaving the club "Saida", whether it's for a few hours or an overnight until the morning.

For LT, I've found most tier 1 girls will open at 2000 to 3000 and accept a 1200 to 1500 counter right away, especially if they know you are not a newbie as 1) know the general pricing of the club and 2) is a potential repeat client. The tier 2 girls I've found will take 800 to 1200 for a pernoite.

As with the ST examples, a few won't budge and want at least 2 to 3 k for a pernoite. With one only going from 4500 down to 4000. Almost all of those girls, I don't even consider Tier 1 caliber so I just moved on.

The above also just goes to show that everyome have different tastes. I am glad that is the case or we would all be fighting for the same girls!

Most Asians seem to gravitate towards lighter skinned, cute and innocent gazelles. White Gringos are usually more varied. Locals Brazilians usually tanned, tall, slutty with big Ts and As. That's based on both my observations of which girls are sitting with which clients. And also what girls I spent time with tells me.

The last girl I spent time with on my most recent trip was a young, lightly tanned cute and pretty petite English speaking Brazilian girl with amazing natural the's. Perfect for "Russian"! Those large natural breasts on such a small and thin frame makes her stand out and is an unicorn in my eyes. She tells me few local guys go for her, but white Gringos and Asians (both locals and visitors) make up 80%+ of her client base.

I know I don't haggle too aggressively, as I don't want to go too low and potentially impact service levels. I just pay what I am comfortable paying, even if it might be on the higher end of what locals and others tell me are the prevalent club rates. I also compare what regular / high end clinicas, other boates and online girls charge and make additional adjustments based on that info.