Sao Paulo Reports

[Nounce]

Hello Everyone,...

I figure that I need to eat more than I fuck so I stayed where it was easy to get food within walking distance. I wasn't that satisfied with sex but I was very happy with food. LOL.

I did not have luck with Abbodra but I had better luck with Miruna. I mostly went during weekend. Thais, Cecila, Nicole are good. I had a bad one who agreed to BBBJ but in the room was giving me a very long HJ instead which actually was pretty good. LOL. I got rid of her and leave the room to get another. Bruna wanted 100 more for BBBJ.

[DukesFord]

Cafe Foto: Boate.
Require fingerprint.
https://www.cafephoto.com.br/
Av. Dos Bandeirantes, 1515 - Vila Olmpia, So Paulo. SP, 04553-010, Brazil.

Lotus Club: Boate.
I heard not many girls, i do not plan to go.
http://www.lotusclub.com.br/
Av. Pres. Juscelino Kubitschek, 373 - Itaim Bibi, So Paulo. SP, 04543-010, Brazil.

Lotus Lounge: Clinic.
The girls are pretty on the ipad.
Messaged whatsapp to schedule. Not the best at responding and lied.
http://www.lotuslounge.com.br/
Are. Cabo Verde, 120 - Vila Olmpia, So Paulo. SP, 04550-080, Brazil.

From the Bourbon you could walk to Lotus Lounge Clinica and Cafe Photo

This is not the Lotus Club that is next to Bomboa right? Because I heard there is supposedly two different Cafe Photos, one renamed Lotus Club.

Also, is this the one that required fingerprint?

[DukesFord]

Yeah makes sense, but the cancellations kills me. Don't schedule if you are going to cancel. Also, when you cancel (it was very vague if she was cancelling) please for the love of god respond to me when I ask you are still coming or not, she responded 3 hours later and I didn't have time find someone else. At the time she cancelled I was in meetings and was the presenter and couldn't all of a sudden find someone. I work from hotel room and I can take a break and have sex whenever I want, well not during all my meetings. I can't find a girl last minute to come to my room when you cancel or not explicit on showing up.

Well, majority of us are on vacation and not working here so our time and your time is different. We don't have to worry about working during the day and find someone for the afternoon. We can go 11 AM or 2 PM before rush hour versus you went at 6 PM which is where majority of the Brazilian get off after work and go, even after 4 Pm it starts to get busy. And for boate girls and even clinica girls, they usually come to work 1-2 PM, because they go to boates until early morning and then sleep all day.

[FlowState985]

BOATES:
1) Cafe Photo.
--Went on a Thursday and Saturday.
--Thursday had a great selection, I don't remember the entry. Not as good or big as Scandalo.
--Saturday was DEAD.
--I took a girl home and she was a sweet and fun person to talk to. She spoke nearly perfect English.
-- Rates take out I think was 1500 for night.

This is not the Lotus Club that is next to Bomboa right? Because I heard there is supposedly two different Cafe Photos, one renamed Lotus Club.

Also, is this the one that required fingerprint?

[FlowState985]

Thanks for those who read, obviously you can tell I'm on edge with my experiences here.

1. If you are still staying at this Hotel Bourbon, there are a lot of food option around the area with short distance for lunch / dinner.

2. I stayed at Tsue Flat, it is very convenient for location but noisy due to airplanes because the window is parallel to the landing strip, which means you will hear them arriving and taking off the whole way. I did not check out the bar area, I might do it next time and we'll see.

3. As far as clinicas / spas, you can ask them for updates on whatsapp. It will have names, pics, and when they will be working that day.

6. If you preferred to get iFood for delivery, try and get a Brazilian Sim card at the mall next to the hotel and set it up that way.

"I don't know how you guys do it here. ".

Well, majority of us are on vacation and not working here so our time and your time is different. We don't have to worry about working during the day and find someone for the afternoon. We can go 11 AM or 2 PM before rush hour versus you went at 6 PM which is where majority of the Brazilian get off after work and go, even after 4 Pm it starts to get busy. And for boate girls and even clinica girls, they usually come to work 1-2 PM, because they go to boates until early morning and then sleep all day.

[DukesFord]

BOATES:

I hate negotiating, that's why i prefer FKKs and not boates. Especially since I can lose 100 euros but only lose 30 minutes, sure you can get a girl all night for 300 euros (1,500 BRLs), but you gamble on how good she is. It's not worth testing a girl at Scandallo, in my opnion for 250 Euros (part of consumables like buying a drink PLUS room PLUS her Rate) = (150 BRL + 250 BRL + 850 BRL). I'd rather pay 70 euros and then 100 to 150 euros per fuck. Weighted average cost of times I can nut is much lower in FKKs, and I can nut way more times. To be fair, not being able to speak Portuguese is a good factor in the cost/fun calculation. I can't say hey that hurts, or yeah like that....in FKKS because most speak English I can.

You may wonder why I'm here...I'm debating about cancelling my remaining trip, booking a flight this weekend to Frankfurt and then back to USA. It's like the girls here don't want to make money.

In FKKS, i would have probably spent $4000 plus in the last week (not going all day because of work) and nutted at least 25 times. Here, I've probably spent $2000 and only 7 nuts...and a lot of loss sleep with the girls staying the night.
Fkk dollar cost equals 160 per nut
Brazil dollar cost equals 285...almost double the cost and more frustration and wasted time.

1) Cafe Photo.
--Went on a Thursday and Saturday.
--Thursday had a great selection, I don't remember the entry. Not as good or big as Scandalo.
--Saturday was DEAD.
--I took a girl home and she was a sweet and fun person to talk to. She spoke nearly perfect English.
-- Rates take out I think was 1500 for night.

2) Scandalo.
--They remodeled since Feb 2021.
--More girls than Feb 2021, I went on Friday.
--I took one girl home, not great. She talked a good game about how her BJ was, but it was terrible, I couldn't even feel it.
--Amounts were outrageous for one hour. LOL no way 1,500 or 1,000 for an hour plus the room rental. I didn't have sex, I wasn't in the mood.

3) Casaro.
--I think 150 brl to go in with consumable.
--Half hour with girls cost 250.
--One hour costs 400.
--Room I 50 for 30 minutes or 100 for an hour.
--Girl take out is 100.
--Good option to find some hotties.
--I think I went on Monday and I was surprised with the selection.
--Bar / dance main floor.
--Basement has food and bar and outdoor patio to smoke.
--I had two girls, both were good not great. The 22 year old had some big old natural titties. She was cute and somewhat mechanical but not. Her BJ wasn't good, she would allow CIM, but be / see it wasn't good I couldn't.

4) Zeus. Strip club.
--Went Wednesday night, around 930 PM.
--No girls were dancing all sitting.
--works like Casaro.
--Do not recommend.
--200 brl to enter and that include consumables, for 203 I got a water bottle, jack daniels and a gin drink.

[DukesFord]

I can't figure out how to edit my post, I did it earlier but now I can't. The quoted section should have said:

-Abbodra.

-it gets busy at 6. I was behind a group of 7 dicks, literally they had just walked in. They couldn't decide, but myself and another monger who walked in before me but not part of 7 dick club, we wanted Girl AA and BB. The other monger not part of the group asked for Girl AA. But the receptionist asked the 7 dick group, who was their before myself and the monger, if they wanted Girl AA, and one guy in 7 dick club wanted her. That monger then picked someone else. The other 6 dicks were still debating, I then asked for Girl BB. Well you guessed it, reception asked the remaining 6 dicks club if one of them wanted Girl BB and one did. So I left and went to Joy who was suppose to be open, but closed.

-Abbodra.
-it gets busy at 6. I was behind a group of 7 dicks, literally they had just walked in. They couldn't decide, but myself and another monger wanted Girl A and be. The other monger not part of the group asked for Girl A. But be / see the 7 dick group was their first, the reception gave them the option to pick her first. They did. That monger picked someone else. The other 6 dicks were still debating, I then asked for Girl be. Well you guessed it, reception asked the remaining 6 dicks in the group if they wanted her and one did. So I left

[DukesFord]

Hello Everyone,

Here are some of the things I've experienced:

1) Hotel Bourbon Convention Center.
--Bed is hard, I'm on floor 1.
--Need Key card to get into room.
--I don't think it has heat, not a huge deal, but it's a tad chilly.
--Internet-Slow around 12 mbs, I brought Ethernet cable, but I don't think the wired outlet works.
--Bringing girls back, they allow. If you do not book room for 2, they'll charge 150 each night, but if you book for 2 then they won't.
--I think you are limited to two additional guests in one day. Example: If you booked for 2 then you, one guest are free and you can bring up to two more that day, no 5 somes to my knowledge. I haven't brought more than one girl back so this is just an assumption.
--Across the street from the mall, watch out for the clowns. They ask money for kids and it's annoying. You'll see them.
--Location is great if you want to go to clinics, it's a short walk between all. Walking about 10 minutes to Abbodora and 15-20 minutes to Lotus Lounge Massage).
--Not great for food options.
--Gym- conveniently located between two Smartfits (25 BRL for a day).
--They'll do laundry (costs).
--You can ask for iron and ironing board, but you have to return.
--Lots of people stay here, it gets somewhat busy during the day. Business related people.
--Airplane noise, not bad, not great. It hasn't woken me up at night.
--The breakfast the provide is not great

2) Tsue Palace.
--I've walked by and did notice several working girls at it and at the bars / restaurants.
--Not sure I'd stay here, but it'd be convenient.

3) Spas, not particular happy, to be fair I've had less than stellar events and it just kills my mood.
-Abbodra.
-I've gone to this one primarily.
-I can never understand names, I thought I said the correct name, but instead I got someone else. By the time we figured it out she was taken, I was pissed but not their fault.
-going forward I'm going to stand with reception and ask her to point to the name on the list of the girl as she walks in and I'll write it on my phone and mark with " the more " the higher rating.
-second best lineup, also the largest. 20-25 sometimes.
-it gets busy at 6. I was behind a group of 7 dicks, literally they had just walked in. They couldn't decide, but myself and another monger wanted Girl A and be. The other monger not part of the group asked for Girl A. But be / see the 7 dick group was their first, the reception gave them the option to pick her first. They did. That monger picked someone else. The other 6 dicks were still debating, I then asked for Girl be. Well you guessed it, reception asked the remaining 6 dicks in the group if they wanted her and one did. So I left and went to Joy who was suppose to be open, but closed.
-I asked who will be working tomorrow on whatsapp and they said same girls as today with no names. Idiots. I swear Brazilians are lazy.

-Lotus Lounge massage.
-They have pictures online with some faces and most without, when you go in they show the girls face on the tablet.
-The hottest girls, not sure it's worth the price.
-I booked a girl 20 minutes before arriving, I started to walk. The reception messaged me saying if she leaves or something happens can she message me and let me know. I said no problem see you in 10 minutes. Well you guessed it. When I got in she wasn't available. SMH, wtf. At this point I've been cancelled / postponed several times today (twitter / boate girls), and that day specifically I was suppose to have a reputable boate girl suck my dick while I was in meetings all day, we agreed the day prior she'd do it. She messaged me an hour after she was suppose to show saying she just woke and has to be at work at 7. I said no problem, let me know when you arrive. NO response. The worst part was she was sending me videos of her sucking dick and asking about lingerie / costumes and all this sexual stuff, so I was all built up. Then let down be / see she never showed. I digress. So back to the "scheduled" session at Lotus. I pick another girl but at this point I'm fuming between the "reservation" and boate girl. I get in the room lay down and I'm very cold / angry. She comes in, I don't get up and just say Hi (I don't speak Portuguese). She starts massaging, not a good massage. Eventually I turn around and she hot and sexy. I get hard she puts on a condom and rides me. I flip her over on her back and she wouldn't let me go deep, I'm not huge but bigger. I can see the pain in her face and she asks to go to doggy. At this point my mood is turning again. Well in doggy I feel like she's doing the same thing. I lose interest and 15 minutes into the session I want to leave. What a damn waste of a day. I don't know how you guys do it here. Also, it was 45 minutes not an hour.
-I did have one session with Pitty a few days prior to the above and she was great. Good Deepthroat but I felt she didn't want me to CIM.

-Miruna / Prime.
-Not worth it in my opinion.

-Joy.
-Went twice, it was closed Monday when it said it'd be open.
-When I went they had two girls.

4) ATM.
-Screw US Bank-the debit card doesn't work at Santander.
-Santander in the mall allows 3,000 BRL at a time.
-Bradesco across from the mall limits to 890.
-My Charles Schwab card worked at Santander, but I lost it and ordered a new one.

5) Twitter / Boate girls.
-I'll send more details later. Be PREPARED to be cancelled on many times. Just writing this I am getting mad with all the cancellations from these twats. Literally schedule the night before and they cancel. The dick meeting girl said she had to work, then messaged me that night saying she was feeling bad and didn't want to go to Scandallo, but would like to reschedule the next time? What, did you have to work or not feel good? LIARS!
-Message me if you want names. I don't have many
-twitter handle: Httmolinaa Micaela Molina this girls deepthroats and loves it. I recommend. God damn it was hot.

6) Ubereats
---no longer available
---iFood require Brazilian number
---Rappi I can't figure out why they keep declining when i checkout. It has nothing to do with my CC or Paypal.
---This is a huge let down. B/c I can't get ubereats (I work during the day), I now need to figure out what to do for lunch/dinner. An unforseen obstacle.

7) OVERALL FEELINGS
---I'm not loving it here. The girls are hot and good sex, but overall this trip I've only nutted like 7 times (if I was in FKKs, i'd probably nutted 25 times). Oh one of the boate girls was the worst sex I've ever had, good person but terrible sex. I love the fkks for all the reason i hate it here. I would write more, but I have a meeting i need to prepare for. The stress of scheduling/not speaking portuguese and the time to go from one place to another. Not worth it.
Thanks for those who read, obviously you can tell I'm on edge with my experiences here.

[UniversalX]

I don't like the fingerprint BS on general principals. It seems like a huge invasion of my privacy plus I can't think of any other bordello in the world that requires it, but what actual harm can it cause? What is the worst possible downside?

I concur.

Prospective Harm / Downside, unknown but IMHO it exists. Therefore I will avoid.

[HiddenEye]

I went to Bomboa, I refer to that house as Bombo, and had a special experience.

There was a woman in her late 40's I suppose, Brazilian, classy, and she didn't look like and escort, nor was dressing as one. When I finally approached, she was polite and her accent educated. She told me she was not an escort.

She was simple and straight. "I love girls and I'm looking for one". I told her it was a great place to find one, 'cause there are lots of girls who offer their company to couples and women. She said thanks and went to the bar.

When I was on the way to my hotel in the taxi, great place for philosophy in the back seat, I spent few minutes to think of it.

Big stake of the escort market may be required by other women. This is not a "social issue" created by males only, as feminists want to make us believe.

Oh yeah, but they are very discreet I'm sure.

[HiddenEye]

Hi Hobbying, yeah you're partly right, regular cars are required to have two plates. I didn't check regulations for sport cars, but from my photos of the Salao do Automovel, I guess sport cars have special treatment.

And be sure if road police stops you with such a car, and maybe woman company, you'll have another treatment.

I don't know about Germany or Switzerland, but Brasil (with an S) is a very different place.

Note: sorry, cars and gorgeous women are my weakness.

Photo not in Brazil then, none of those cars have Brazilian plates. Plus they are required to have front plates.

[Hobbying]

Even if you are required to have front plate, I wouldn't put a front plate on a nice Lambo, I would just take a ticket and move on. A front plate on a junker, but a nice lambo? Hell nah.

I was referring to all the cars in the photo. Plates in Brasil look like Euro plates elongate and they have tamper proof locks on the them so people can't just remove them. Point is I call BS, photo of girl was not in Brasil.

[Axel Heyst]

Cafe Photo, I have not seen a confirmation but if they still fingerprint I will pass on this Boate.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2719771

I went last week and they still have fingerprint.

I don't like the fingerprint BS on general principals. It seems like a huge invasion of my privacy plus I can't think of any other bordello in the world that requires it, but what actual harm can it cause? What is the worst possible downside?

[DukesFord]

I went last week and they still have fingerprint.

Thanks, I was hoping you were going to Name A Brand New Boate Unknown to the forum. The address change has been mentioned numerious times during and after COVID (COVID is not over yet you know what I mean regarding timeline).

Cafe Photo, I have not seen a confirmation but if they still fingerprint I will pass on this Boate.

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2719771

[UniversalX]

I recall reading about good quality love hotels that have GPS usually present and waiting around, I would like to know which are still good. I arrive back in Sao Paulo in late September.

Sao Paulo Specific Link.
https://www.guiademoteis.com.br/sao-paulo
You can email or call to find out. If you find one please let us know.

I have no knowledge of SP Love Hotels with in-house GPs present or GP viewing catalog.