Sao Paulo Reports

[Steve 9696]

First night in SP where would we go but the legendary Scandallo. And it did not disappoint. We arrived early, maybe 7:30 and of course it is not very busy then. They kept the large stage area of the club and large patio closed as it was not yet crowded.

Since the spaces in the club were limited to the small entry bar, the small garden terrace and the restaurant, my buddy Mark and I went to the restaurant. Mark is new to the game and thus was super impressed, even though only maybe 1/5 of the floor area was open and maybe 20-30 girls? But the luxury and girl quality is undeniable.

We settled in with some Jack and Coke. Before I forget let me warn you here. Jack is $16 USD and coke is $6 charged separately. So a Jack and Coke is $22. Corona is much more reasonable at $10 but we didn't figure this out till later. We ran up quite the bar tab plus cigars and entry.

Of course it is not long before we are approached and we fend off a couple girls. However one girl, Gabi is a real cutie and takes a very casual approach standing near me and engaging in light convo in her great English but never pushy. Super classy girl. Meanwhilst Mark is approached by a couple girls as well including Maria who we will return to.

We had made a pact to not take anyone the first hour. So it takes the pressure off a bit because you know you are going to settle in. At some point we decide to walk the rest of the club and that gives us a chance to chat frankly. He is smitten with my girl, Gabi, and that is great because she's a shade off my type tho super pretty.

Mark was complaining that the patio was smoky and the best way to defeat this is to smoke urself so we get a couple Monte Cristos. These are a heart stopping $40 each we find out later so bring 'them if you got 'them!

As Mark was interested in Gabi I grab her for him and the three of us get a table on the patio. It's clear those two have a connection and soon her hand is on his leg and they are laughing like old friends. Gabi is lovely to chat with and I don't feel a third wheel, but soon think I should grab a hottie as well.

I excuse myself for a minute and circle before deciding on Maria, who had engaged Mark initially. I bring her back to the table and we get another chair. Maria doesn't smoke but Gabi and Mark are sharing his cigar. It's an intimate thing to do and Maria tries mine, with me explaining how to smoke it. A lovely double date!

The great thing about Scandallo is there is no rush to the room. A quality girl there is happy to spend time "on the date" as well and will spend quite a bit of time just laughing and drinking and smoking. We prob spend at least an hour, maybe more. At some point Maria and I start making out. And like most Brasileiras I know, she can kiss like an Angel and a devil all rolled into one!

Eventually we decide to get a room and both of us have a whale of a time. Maria is a wet passionate fuck fest and Gabi who seems so classy is a very naughty minx in the room. Both Mark and I were on cloud nine. Mark came down 40 minutes over the hour if that tells you something. LOL.

We are both pretty spent but LOVE the Scandallo atmosphere. It's carnival week so the attendance is comparably light but still surely 100+ girls as the club fills up (they never did open the patio given the slow night). So we just settle in and drink and watch the future fuck partners parade.

For those that haven't been, aside from the luxe and scale of the club the girls are uniformly pretty. Mark and I agree that while we have our favorites there are only maybe 5 to 8 girls we wouldn't be happy fucking. It's all slim and fit hotties with bare midriffs, a handful of which are 9. 5's. Yowza!

I can't recall the exact sequence but Mark ends up chatting with slim hottie Laura for a very long time in the restaurant. I assume I am just cruising and enjoying the girl buffet. He doesn't intend to take her but I think I will because I hate that he chats her up so long (30+ minutes) but doesn't plan to take her.

I guess tho she worked her magic because when I check in at some point he says he plans to take her. So I quickly switch to wingman mode and say OK let me go grab a girl but I have nothing to go on but optics because of the short notice and assume I will settle, but play the good wingman role.

So I head back into the fray of the main club area and start wending my way through the body jam. I had seen this super petite cutie earlier. Maybe 148-150 cm tall with a nice chest and go and grab her. Not a lot of lead up. Just "Hi my name is Steve" and "Let's go talk in the restaurant". As I lead her back to Mark and Laura I think they are surprised I made such a quick grab but I am in wingman mode now.

Turns out I made an excellent choice. Probably the best body I've seen on a 5 foot nuthin girl. Just built out in all the right places. A fucking brick house for fucking.

She's a ton of fun in the room and ready to please. We suck and fuck forever but I am perilously hard to finish as my fifth fuck in four days. But she's a damn hard worker and good sport, smiling ear to ear throughout with plenty of ball licking and all my usual finishing tricks.

We finally go to the age old finisher of jerking off while she masturbates that gorgeous 20 year old pussy. We are at it s good long time and, at my age, my shot is maybe an inch distance on a good day. LOL So we are both shocked when I shoot a full 18" and hit her square on the thigh. Damn that was nice!

So yet another spectacular Scandallo visit and spectacular price tag as well. Girls were 1100-1500 R and not budging below that. Totally worth it of course. With drinks, girls, cigars, rooms and entry we each dropped about $800. Certainly pricey for Brasil but worth every fucking penny and fuck we were there 7 hours! Scandallo retains its status as number one girl club worldwide IMO. Just adore it. A must do for every man.

Stay tuned for the pull of a full on ten from Casarao the next day. No joke. Prettiest girl I've ever been with and that's saying something. Coming soon.

[Anaggie]

I was speaking in relative terms (uber travel times) compared to the 5-star hotels down in Morumbi / Brooklyn. That said, Casarao IS within walking distance of the Renaissance if one cares to chance it late at night. Not me, but I recall another BM posted about doing it a while back. Otherwise, it is usually a 10-to-15-minute Uber ride to Casarao and about a 20-to-25-minute Uber ride from the Renaissance to Scandallo after 9 pm when I usually head out OR a 20-minute ride to Bomboa. Compare that to the 45 minute plus Uber ride from the Hyatt to Scandallo after 9 pm or the 30-minute ride from the Hyatt to Bomboa and you see what I mean.

I probably did not make it clear in my previous post, but when I stay in Itaim Bibi at either the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Exec Hotel, two of my favorite 4. XX-star SP hotels, it is an easy, relatively safe, 2 block walk to and from Bomboa from different directions, and an Uber ride to Scandallo after 9 pm is around 20-to-25-minutes. The big difference between the big 5 stars and these 4. XX hotels are the "glitz" of the 5 stars' lobbies and depth of their buffet breakfasts. The rooms in the 4. XX's are roomy, KKK, and clean and the money difference can be as great as $100 to $125/ night. On top of that, I like their neighborhoods, so I like these two hotels and stay at them often after I run out of hotel points and voucher free nights at the 5 stars.

If anyone plans to try to make it Scandello before 7 pm from the Renaissance, leave early and I mean early. I left my room at 6 pm and ordered an Uber on the way down. The Uber came in approx 10-12 mins, and I got to Scandello with 8 minutes to spare. We had to deal with rush hour traffic and luckily we didn't have any other issues. Just something to keep in mind if you are planning to take advantage of the early entry fee.

[Robotron]

Anyone have photos of the girls they've partaked in at Scandello or any links in this thread? I'm planning to spend the next 3 months learning Portuguese on Duolingo, or if anyone has another recommended service or way to learn to at least understand some basics.

How much does the rooms upstairs cost to bring girls or are you bringing them back to your own place?

[GattoRojo]

My flight is booked, and I just secured an apartment near the Hospital São Luiz! Next week, all of this dreaming becomes a reality!

I looked at different hotels, but decided on an AirBnB because the price was so good. $70/ day! It seems like it's maybe well positioned for some walking tours of the clinicas. It's hard to know by just using Google Maps, but it feels like it's pretty well situated.

I have Google Fi and WhatsApp. It will show a US number though. Is it worth going to the trouble of getting a local SIM to get a Brazilian #?

I plan on using ATMs to withdraw BRL. But maybe at a place like Scandallo, it makes more sense to just use a card to pay instead of carrying so much cash?

Anything (other than Scandallo!) you wouldn't want to miss on your first visit to SP / Brasil? Debaucherous or not. All suggestions are welcome.

Obrigado!

[Axel Heyst]

What Boates are close to the Renaissance in Jardins?

I was speaking in relative terms (uber travel times) compared to the 5-star hotels down in Morumbi / Brooklyn. That said, Casarao IS within walking distance of the Renaissance if one cares to chance it late at night. Not me, but I recall another BM posted about doing it a while back. Otherwise, it is usually a 10-to-15-minute Uber ride to Casarao and about a 20-to-25-minute Uber ride from the Renaissance to Scandallo after 9 pm when I usually head out OR a 20-minute ride to Bomboa. Compare that to the 45 minute plus Uber ride from the Hyatt to Scandallo after 9 pm or the 30-minute ride from the Hyatt to Bomboa and you see what I mean.

I probably did not make it clear in my previous post, but when I stay in Itaim Bibi at either the Grand Mercure SP Itaim Bibi or the Marriott Exec Hotel, two of my favorite 4. XX-star SP hotels, it is an easy, relatively safe, 2 block walk to and from Bomboa from different directions, and an Uber ride to Scandallo after 9 pm is around 20-to-25-minutes. The big difference between the big 5 stars and these 4. XX hotels are the "glitz" of the 5 stars' lobbies and depth of their buffet breakfasts. The rooms in the 4. XX's are roomy, KKK, and clean and the money difference can be as great as $100 to $125/ night. On top of that, I like their neighborhoods, so I like these two hotels and stay at them often after I run out of hotel points and voucher free nights at the 5 stars.

[The Critic]

And there is no comparison in neighborhoods. The area around the Hilton / Hyatt / JW is just not very interesting while the area around the Renaissance in Jardins is one of the best in SP for walkabouts and restaurants, not to mention, it is much, much closer to the boates. There is a big hill in Jardins that you have to walk up and down walking to and from the Renaissance to Av. Brasil, but it is all part of the scenery. If this is your 1st visit to SP, I recommend the Renaissance or the Intercontinental over the Hyatt, Hilton, or JW.

I also really like Itaim Bibi for similar reasons and there is no big hill to climb. KKK. Incidentally, the neighborhood in between Av. Brasil and Av. Nove de Julho ie in between Jardins and Itaim Bibi is tree lined and full of beautiful city mansion / estates making it great for walkabouts.

What Boates are close to the Renaissance in Jardins?

[Nounce]

Nice report, thanks as always. Can you explain the TIM chip situation? How did you activate it? I thought you had to go to a store and show your passport? Or did you have CPF already?

You only need passport. The easiest method is to buy a TIM chip (sim) from the newsstand. The go to a Tim store to have them help you activate it with your passport. If they don't know how, you can just ask them to connect you using your phone to an online person who speaks English then you can take over and provide the information asked, like address and passport info.

You can search for Loja TIM on google map to find the stores near you. Usually you can find one in shopping center.

When you run out of data, you can go to a drugstore, ask a few and you will find out that does, or convenience store like Americanas to recharge it. They only take cash for this.

[DonMoscow]

I had a short stopover at Sao Paulo recently. I got 2 TIM chips, each for a month, for the next two months. According to the seller, I can use the second SIM after my first SIM expires in 30 days. I am still not sure if the seller understood what I was trying to do. She told me to make 1 phone call each day for the first 2 days to keep the second SIM active. I will find out next month to see if my second SIM will give me another 30 days or not.

Nice report, thanks as always. Can you explain the TIM chip situation? How did you activate it? I thought you had to go to a store and show your passport? Or did you have CPF already?

[Axel Heyst]

I didn't see you make any posts specifically about the JW but it looks like their lounge is open 24/7. How is it for walkable stuff compared to the Renaissance in Jardins? And how about girl friendliness. Ie, bringing two girls is OK? I was never questioned once in the Renaissance and am debating how much I want to go there vs. JW which seems a bit nicer.

I never posted specifically on the Sao Paulo JW because I never stayed there and there are 2 reasons why. 1) Every time I was looking to make hotel reservations & loaded up with Marriott points and free night vouchers, the Renaissance offered better deals. A lot better deals. 2) As I posted previously, I greatly prefer the Jardins and Itaim Bibi neighborhoods over Morumbi / Brooklyn for daytime walkabouts as well as their closer proximity to my favorite boates.

That said, I am looking forward to my upcoming stay at the Sao Paulo JW. I made the reservation a few weeks ago by chance when I logged into my Marriott account and surprise, surprise, the JW was offering a significantly discounted week's stay in points, much lower than the Renaissance ask, so I jumped on it. The JW used to be a 4 Seasons Hotel, so I am pretty sure it is a more luxurious hotel than the Renaisance, but at this level of hotel quality that alone does not make much difference to me. What counts in my book is location, location, location, and price.

And there is no comparison in neighborhoods. The area around the Hilton / Hyatt / JW is just not very interesting while the area around the Renaissance in Jardins is one of the best in SP for walkabouts and restaurants, not to mention, it is much, much closer to the boates. There is a big hill in Jardins that you have to walk up and down walking to and from the Renaissance to Av. Brasil, but it is all part of the scenery. If this is your 1st visit to SP, I recommend the Renaissance or the Intercontinental over the Hyatt, Hilton, or JW.

I also really like Itaim Bibi for similar reasons and there is no big hill to climb. KKK. Incidentally, the neighborhood in between Av. Brasil and Av. Nove de Julho ie in between Jardins and Itaim Bibi is tree lined and full of beautiful city mansion / estates making it great for walkabouts.

I have stayed a few times at the Marriott Exec Hotel. The Marriott Exec is not really a 5-star hotel, more like a 4. 3 star, but I really like its little neighborhood adjacent to Ibirapuera Park to the East and 2 blocks from Bomboa to the west. There is a friendly local steakhouse and very good sushi restaurant worth checking out for lunch nearby in this neighborhood.

All these hotels are girl friendly. I have personally had 2 girls up to my room in a true lesbian menage a trois, at the Hilton, but on the advice of my main girl in the enterprise, we did it one at a time ie my main girl arrived 1st and I brought her up to my room and then 5 minutes later her girlfriend texted us that she was arriving, and I went down, met her as she was getting out of her uber, and escorted her up to my room. No security check whatsoever.

The Marriot Exec is also very loose. The max number of girls I have brought back to this hotel is only 2 girls at a time, but the front desk didn't bat an eye, so I assume you can bring as many girls as you like back to the Marriott Exec. KKK. The Hyatt and the Renaissance have sometimes insisted on a security checks for my girls and sometimes they have not. There is a back door to the Hyatt elevators through the garden / pool area into the dining room which might prove useful if you are planning to have more than one girl at a time at the Hyatt. The Hyatt like the Renaissance usually has a FL'er or two hanging out in the lobby. They are easy to spot, but very, very expensive. I highly recommend bringing a girl back from one of the boates instead.

[Nounce]

I had a short stopover at Sao Paulo recently. I got 2 TIM chips, each for a month, for the next two months. According to the seller, I can use the second SIM after my first SIM expires in 30 days. I am still not sure if the seller understood what I was trying to do. She told me to make 1 phone call each day for the first 2 days to keep the second SIM active. I will find out next month to see if my second SIM will give me another 30 days or not.

I had some unfinished business in Vila Mariana. I was in the area, so I went to Yankins. There lineup was poor in the morning. I picked one that the manager told me was very good, so I skipped the interview. I was given room #2 upstairs. It must have been remodeled recently. It looked new and spotless. That was why I walked into the shower glass door without seeing it was closed. Fortunately, I did not break it and I was fine. The girl and I both got a good laugh. I realized that I may have made a mistake when the girl tried to put the condom on for oral. Haha. I asked the girl nicely with a "please", she changed her mind and gave me a BBBJ instead. The BJ was excellent and she DP it so much that I thought she must enjoy it. This made me wonder what the CBJ was about.

There were more girls present when I was leaving, and I saw one that I like. I went back several hours later to find her but she was not available. I asked for a lineup. I picked the first one without seeing more. I asked her if she did oral without, she whispered in my ear "Eu chupo sem camisinha" so I don't think I need to see more. LOL. I was assigned room #2 again. I finished with CIM and I did not fuck her. I have been getting BBFS for the last few months and I know it's going to be a struggle to finish with condom because it was difficult in the morning session.

Back to the last day in Brazil of my previous trip, I had a session here with a pregnant girl. It was unremarkable except she was pregnant with a baby bump on her stomach. I was thinking checking out Taj and to a no name restaurant that I walked pass when I had session at Sharon as it seemed popular with locals. I decided to go to Tangara first because I had not been there for a long time. I ended up trying to wait for a girl to finish lunch but unfortunately an Asian guy was waiting by the stairs and got her first. When I was waiting, I got hard sitting there watching another girl sitting across me who was chatting with a couple of locals for a long time. I talked to her and chatted a bit, then we went to the room. The session was memorable because she was friendly and unspoiled that I told her to ignore the bell, and stayed in the room as long as we want just talking about stuff. She is a very good story teller with a very attractive voice that I will always remember. My Portuguese is poor but we shared some common interests like diving, and Brazilian food so I was able to comprehend more than usual. She taught me a new word maconha. This is a girl that I really miss but as it was my last day, I did not get her number and I never see her in Tangara's WhatsApp lineup. By the time I got to the restaurant, it was after 3 PM and closed but I made it this trip.

The picture is the stair at Tangara, the bar is downstaris where the girls ate that day. The chair was where I sat while waiting. The girl I took sat across me.

[Dobandun22]

1. Wrong, most Marriott Exec Apartment rooms are smoke free.

2. Check out my recommendations in the hotel thread. I have stayed in all the places I write about.

3. Five Star and Four-Star SP hotel prices are going through the roof. You can still find deals occasionally, but you must start your search early and keep searching on a weekly basis until you find something reasonable. I do not consider paying $250/ night and above for the Renaissance, Hilton, or JW Marriott, reasonable, but if you do, the more power to you, in which case you might be interested in Hotel Fasano Jardins or Hotel Fasano Itaim Bibi which are both priced well above $500/ night. I once stayed at the Fasano Ipanema during Omicron back in 2021 for around $125/ night. It was a pretty good hotel. KKK. The hotel restaurant was phenomenal. P.S. I once took an SP MClass escort, my "centerfold," to the Fasano Jardins Hotel restaurant and the tuna dish I ordered was fucking amazing!

4. The way I get around this hotel $$$ issue is by having / using travel Credit Cards that offer annual free night benefits and hotel points. There are some incredible bonus offers for signing up for one of these CC's.

5. On my next trip planned for June / July a good portion of my stays will be at the Hyatt, JW Marriott, and Intercontinental free on points and vouchers. The rest of my SP nights will be spent at comfortable and convenient 4.5 stars for around $100 to $125/ night. I do not know of any SP hotels which are not girl friendly, but always make reservations for 2 persons to avoid any possible issues. As I said, you have to search for these quality hotels early and often if you want a reasonable price. Check out the traveler ratings on Expedia. I have found that any hotel with an 8. 8 overall traveler rating or higher is pretty damn good. I prefer Itaim Bibi and Jardins neighborhoods, but the Berrini area is ok too.

I didn't see you make any posts specifically about the JW but it looks like their lounge is open 24/7. How is it for walkable stuff compared to the Renaissance in Jardins? And how about girl friendliness. Ie, bringing two girls is OK? I was never questioned once in the Renaissance and am debating how much I want to go there vs. JW which seems a bit nicer.

[Anaggie]

I have a person who delivers to my hotel and he gives a pretty good rate. Last week, the exchange rate was 4. 96 and he delivered at 4. 90 to my hotel. If you want his WhatsApp, I can PM the number. I usually text him a day before I arrive into SP. He only speaks Portuguese so you will have to use google translate.

[Axel Heyst]

Seattle travel used to have the best exchange rate, no passport needed.

Seattle is the best of the lot and easy to get to, but the best fx exchange rate is only available with the Schaab no fee ATM card. It is a true travel game changer. I only bring emergency / backup US $$$ with me now.

[XXL]

Hello fellow Vets.

Where do I exchange money in the Sao Paulo?

Usually in Caribbean, Mexico and Colombia I can exchange with small shop inside Colmado/Supermercado in a popular tourist area.

Can I reload / buy data for Claro SIM?

If they don't have claro not sure if a tourist can buy a SIM on Passport.

Thank you Very Much for suggestion / advice.

Seattle travel used to have the best exchange rate, no passport needed.

https://www.encontrajardins.com.br/r...gens-e-cambio/

You can get a Tim SIM complete with data showing only your passport.

[JSmith80]

Has anyone done an extended stay at the Lush Motel? It looks pretty cool and will obviously be girl friendly.

J.