Sao Paulo Reports

[JSmith80]

Sky is most definitely attractive and she is on my to-do list, but I have never had the pleasure. I wonder how she looks in person. One of my 2 repeat favorites, name to be withheld, KKK, is a brunette spinner. Her pics are prominently displayed in Palm emails and on their web page. IMHO, she looks better in person than in her promos. My other favorite is never posted in Palm emails or on their web page. You will only see her pics if you go into the casa or Whatsapp Palms directly and ask who is available. Apparently, she values her privacy and has enough loyal customers to suit her goals.

AxH,

Would this happen to be Katrina? She has quite the kegel muscle.

J.

[JSmith80]

I don't remember Palms has a bar. The greeting area is small but it has the most luxurious and largest rooms on average among the ones that I have visited. Lotus is the only one that I remember has a bar.

At Palms, there is a bar but it must only be for show as when I asked for a beer they said they don't serve alcohol. There is no MGC (Meet Greet and Chill). It is all business but let's just say it's all good business. Palms was one of my most favorite visits.

J.

[Nounce]

...Is Palms/Taj similar with a bar/relax area pre-game?

I don't remember Palms has a bar. The greeting area is small but it has the most luxurious and largest rooms on average among the ones that I have visited. Lotus is the only one that I remember has a bar.

[Septimius]

That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.

I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.

There is a waiter at Bomboa. He was a good guy and was always there when I needed a drink. He asked me for a tip when I checked out to leave. I was paying the girl and he came over and asked if I could give him a tip as well. I did. It was no big deal. I never tipped anywhere else in Brazil except for the Uber drivers.

...So, if you find yourself in a no tipping culture it is best not to tip. Let's not turn SP and RJ into BKK and Pattaya. I hope you know what I mean. And let's not piss of the local customers who by their tolerance allow us to play in their playground ie their Boates, Clinicas, and Termas...

When I returned to Bomboa on my 4th trip, I immediately asked Marcos to be my waiter again, and he said, of course, but asked me what the problem was with the new guy, and I told him. Well, that was the end of that. Marcos spoke to the new waiter in front of me and the new guy apologized, and guess what, he never pestered me for a tip again and we got along respectfully my 5th & 6th trip. I hold no grudges. The new guy saw me as a gringo, and he took his shot. No Bomboa waiter ever dares to ask a local customer for a tip.

I confess, however, that I do break Federation rules with Marco. I always hand him a hundred to a hundred & fifty BR on my last night in Bomboa for the 6 or 7 weeks of excellent level of personalized service he provides. I am sure some well-heeled Brazilians do the same from time to time.

On your other question concerning shorts in clinicas: Wear what you like. Nobody cares what you wear in a clinica and long as your clothes are clean and do not stink although I would never wear a Marlon Brando wife beater t-shirt in SP, but that is just me. KKK.

Thank you all for the advice and suggestions. Hey Alex I remember reading your post about this a few days ago while trying to catch up on the thread. I could not remember who wrote it but it's actually one of the reasons I posted the question in the first place. Good to know though.

[Axel Heyst]

Hello there. I've never been to Brazil but I'm planning a trip and have been reading the Rio and San Paulo forums along with General info and places to stay. My questions are pretty general and I was wondering about the clothing thing. I'm a shorts guy and hate wearing jeans. While the nicer establishments like Scandallo require a nice shirt and a pair of jeans how about some of the clinicas? Will I stick out like a sore thumb wearing shorts just walking around town? I'm always hot and unless it's below 40 degreesF, I'm good.

My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT service? If so what's a normal rate?

I recommend that all of us follow the Federation's general rules of Starfleet Command Section 1:

Starfleet crew will obey the following with any civilization that has not achieved a commensurate level of technological and / or societal development as described in Appendix 1.

No identification of self or mission.

No interference with the social, cultural, or technological development of said planet.

No references to space, other worlds, or advanced civilizations.

So, if you find yourself in a no tipping culture it is best not to tip. Let's not turn SP and RJ into BKK and Pattaya. I hope you know what I mean. And let's not piss of the local customers who by their tolerance allow us to play in their playground ie their Boates, Clinicas, and Termas.

When I 1st started visiting the clinicas and boates I would look for some kind of sign, after a session was over, from the girls indicating they were expecting a tip. There never was any indication, so I quickly realized the girls were not expecting any kind of tip, so I stopped thinking about it. A no tipping culture means nobody expects a tip. They don't even know it exists, so let's not give them any ideas.

On my 3rd trip to SP, Marcos, the head waiter at Bomboa, passed me on to his new apprentice waiter. The new guy was just as capable a waiter as Marcos was, but every time I went to pay my tab, he hit me up for a friggin' tip. I told him I would take care of him before I left town, so he should not bother me for tips anymore. He said he understood, but the guy did not get it, and he continued to pester me. So, I gave him nada.

When I returned to Bomboa on my 4th trip, I immediately asked Marcos to be my waiter again, and he said, of course, but asked me what the problem was with the new guy, and I told him. Well, that was the end of that. Marcos spoke to the new waiter in front of me and the new guy apologized, and guess what, he never pestered me for a tip again and we got along respectfully my 5th & 6th trip. I hold no grudges. The new guy saw me as a gringo, and he took his shot. No Bomboa waiter ever dares to ask a local customer for a tip.

I confess, however, that I do break Federation rules with Marco. I always hand him a hundred to a hundred & fifty BR on my last night in Bomboa for the 6 or 7 weeks of excellent level of personalized service he provides. I am sure some well-heeled Brazilians do the same from time to time.

On your other question concerning shorts in clinicas: Wear what you like. Nobody cares what you wear in a clinica and long as your clothes are clean and do not stink although I would never wear a Marlon Brando wife beater t-shirt in SP, but that is just me. KKK.

[GattoRojo]

As I am researching Clinicas, I ran across this site (https://melhoreskamas.com/) that had listings for a few places I'd already identified. Are they all just owned by the same group? I have seen reviews for a few of the places here, so I feel like they are probably legit, though some of the associated sites blur faces, which is always a red flag.

[GattoRojo]

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That is my choice: 360 BR (or less) vs. 750 BR (or less) vs. 1440 BR (or more) or various combos of the 3.

This is an amazingly helpful breakdown of the range available in SP. Thank you! I've been plotting out spots on a map to try to pick a hotel, and I'm going to color code them now.

[Steve 9696]

Unless things have changed there is a nice little bar upstairs at Abbobora. But once you pick your girl they want you to rumble so you can't really relax with a drink. So if you have a wingman and want to have a pregame warmup drink seems best to have that before calling the girls for lineup. Others with boots on the ground (soon!) may have an update or other advice.

Is Palms/Taj similar with a bar/relax area pre-game?

[Nebulousity]

The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the highend boutique clincias in SP. Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue which is created mainly because there is no line up in the high price boutique clinicas, only phot shopped pics from which to make a decision, so not all the high end boutique girls that I end up in bed with are the equal to tier 1 or tier 2 Scandallo types and sometimes I have a girl at these boutique casas that is no better in the looks department than a slightly above average girl at Prime or Abboboro, but sometimes I hook up with a real looker and a keeper. That is the gamble when I go to these high-end casas. And the reverse is true as well. Sometimes I have gotten lucky and met a regular clinica girl that is as good as, as attractive as most Bomboa girls and I wonder why she is working in a regular clinica fucking maybe 5 guys a day and getting only 200 BR per session. I don't know.

Another bonus of the high end clinicas is that it's a little easier to see who will be there by their websites, decide if one particular person is a fit for your tastes, and make an appointment a day in advance via WhatsApp (with the caveat that the appointments will fall through at least 25% of the time). Also early appointments (10 or 11 am even) are possible if you're morning oriented, whereas the other clinicas don't really get going until around 1 or 2. After much time in SP one can get particular about a type so it's a little more of a sure thing to work in advance, instead of waiting for the day of WhatsApp updates of the other Clinicas. That said the surprises at Boates and clinicas with lots of new people, like Tangara, can also be super fun.

[Axel Heyst]

The odds are much better at Palms because 1. The owner will give you information about the girls. 2. the rooms seem more consistent and better or you can ask for it. 3. You can reject the girl ONCE and make a different pick in the room.

Would one of the girls named Sky, a petite blonde spinner? Oops, I just gave away one. Haha. I understand your thinking, but the girls are just there for the taking, it's not like others don't know where to meet these girls.

Sky is most definitely attractive and she is on my to-do list, but I have never had the pleasure. I wonder how she looks in person. One of my 2 repeat favorites, name to be withheld, KKK, is a brunette spinner. Her pics are prominently displayed in Palm emails and on their web page. IMHO, she looks better in person than in her promos. My other favorite is never posted in Palm emails or on their web page. You will only see her pics if you go into the casa or Whatsapp Palms directly and ask who is available. Apparently, she values her privacy and has enough loyal customers to suit her goals.

[Robotron]

Nothing comes close in terms of luxe vibe and number of legit hotties. Imagine the nicest club you have ever been to, with live band and party atmosphere. Add a huge terrace. Add a 3. 5 star hotel attached. Add that every girl in the club wants to fuck you. Voila. Scandallo.

While websites are often misleading, Scandallo's is spot on. This virtual tour will give you an idea.

http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/

Note that its interactive and u can virtually walk around the club.

I don't speak spanish and don't club so have to step my game up and learn fast.

I was going to budget 5000 USD total to spend 2 weeks in Colombia since it seems the girls average 20 to 85 USD there. Whats the average here in reals for normal or street girls plus the min / max range to spend on a Scandallo girl?

Is it preferred to use the hotel in the club for those hookups? Couldn't find the room rate.

Thanks.

[Nounce]

...Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue ....

The odds are much better at Palms because 1. The owner will give you information about the girls. 2. the rooms seem more consistent and better or you can ask for it. 3. You can reject the girl ONCE and make a different pick in the room.

Would one of the girls named Sky, a petite blonde spinner? Oops, I just gave away one. Haha. I understand your thinking, but the girls are just there for the taking, it's not like others don't know where to meet these girls.

[SamaRiding]

I can only speak with statistical accuracy of Boate, Clinica, Terma and high-end Escort girls and sadly 90% of the girls I have been with have insisted on CFS at least on our 1st time together with only 1 in 30 (3%) of the no's willing to accept a 100 to 200 tip offer to go bareback. BBBJ's are still the default, however. This is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. If you are like some of my pals over in the Asian ISG forums, then Brazil is not for you.

I second this. Almost all girls will refuse BBFS if you ask even offering a tip. I think the easiest way to NOT get BBFS is to ask the girl for it. For me, 5-10% will be a great session and the girl will just do it when she gets in the mood. More likely to get it with repeats with regulars, about 30%.

[Axel Heyst]

That is how the pricing work in high end clinicas. I won't go to Lotus lounge because there is no consistency and even water costs twice as palm, LOL. It's a gamble. You may get a room and a girl like a low price clinica. It's not worth it. I would just to go Scandallo.

The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the highend boutique clincias in SP. Sometimes there is a grey area in quality issue which is created mainly because there is no line up in the high price boutique clinicas, only phot shopped pics from which to make a decision, so not all the high end boutique girls that I end up in bed with are the equal to tier 1 or tier 2 Scandallo types and sometimes I have a girl at these boutique casas that is no better in the looks department than a slightly above average girl at Prime or Abboboro, but sometimes I hook up with a real looker and a keeper. That is the gamble when I go to these high-end casas. And the reverse is true as well. Sometimes I have gotten lucky and met a regular clinica girl that is as good as, as attractive as most Bomboa girls and I wonder why she is working in a regular clinica fucking maybe 5 guys a day and getting only 200 BR per session. I don't know.

But I like both types of clinicas and the boates. That is the choice part of the equation. Here is a rough breakdown of the situation: Abboboro, my favorite regular place is 360 BR on the credit card of which the girl gets 200 BR. I believe it is the most expensive of the regular clinicas. I like it because I can usually find a girl that looks doable to very pretty and the sex is ALWAYS real damn good. I have had some wild times in Abboboro and Prime that's for sure.

The Palms, Taj Mahal, Sharon, & Lotus make up the high-end boutique clinicas. The full price is 640 BR (Sharon & TAJ) and up to 750 BR (the Palms) on the credit card of which a Palm girl gets 350 BR. Don't ask me to identify my 2 favorite Palm girls because I won't. KKK. I put in the leg work and made the $$ investments, won some and lost some, KKK, so I will not share my hard-earned results except to say my 2 favorite Palm girls are top caliber in looks and performance and they could easily pull in 700 BR or 800 BR maybe more per session in Scandallo.

So, for me the most important question of the morning after I enjoy my coffee, juice, and breakfast at my hotel buffet is; do I feel like getting it on in the early afternoon or do I want to wait until 9:30 pm. Ha Ha. If I am in the mood for afternoon sex, the next question I ask myself is; do I want to have real good sex with a down to earth SP girl for 360 BR max or do I want to have real good sex with a potentially upscale boate quality girl at one of these expensive boutique clinicas, or do a sure thing with one of my repeat high end clinica favorites) in the afternoon for twice the price of a regular clinca girl, which is also half the price of a quality boate girl (700 BR+500 BR (consumable)+240 BR (room) minimum) in the evening.

That is my choice: 360 BR (or less) vs. 750 BR (or less) vs. 1440 BR (or more) or various combos of the 3. I also have the option of calling one of my favorite boate repeat girls like Valeria and inviting her over to my hotel for the evening (5 to 7 hours / multiple shags / no sleepovers) for 900 BR not including wine, weed, and dinner. What a life! I am happy when I am in SP.

[SamaRiding]

Fellow mongers and others wanted to run this by you all for your thoughts. I am planning a clinica visit and started the WhatsApp chatter. I got into a clinica named Lotus Lounge great looking chicas but when the pricing comes on the responder is quoting me for: 380 reales for the room plus another 400 reales for the therapist. Total of 780 reales for one hour. Is this the norm? Or Lotus Lounge not a clinica?

Meanwhile I have been corresponding with Dubai Spa and also not bad selection of chicas and the pricing scheme is 300 reales for cash or 330 reales for card for the hour. No additional room charges.

Would you experts shed some light into this.

Seems that if there are two charges (girl + room) in clinicas, then it is almost up there like Scandallo.

Any body used Lotus Lounge before?

TY in advance.

Lotus is high end clinics. Search the forum for "high end clinicas" and you find many SP posts describing these. There many cost levels in this mega city and quite a few establishment that would rival the costs in the USA. Many rich Brazilians willing these prices and a lot more. Search for pink sheet girls.