Sao Paulo Reports

[Magnum PI]

Am curious if anyone has an opinion on the quality of the experience of Cafe Photo vs Scandallo. I'm traveling to São Paulo next week, and my hotel is much closer to Cafe Photo. When I read the posts from fellow mongers, all I see are references to how great Scandallo is, so I'm super intrigued. But, Cafe Photo is roughly 10 min drive from my hotel while Scandallo is 40 min. Is it worth it to go Scandallo, or should I just go to Cafe Photo?

[The Cane]

Luckily those days are over when I first time went to Amsterdam and fucked 21 girls during 2,5 days.

Damn that's insane bro! I used to go to Costa Rica and slam fuck 25 girls in 10 days (with almost no repeats and "nut"every single time). And I thought that was something LOL!

[Nordico]

I just checked. Prices from both US coasts to Sampa are about 1200 for coach, 3500 for business and 8-12 k for first. The difference is a lotta hours with a Scandallo garota LOL.

Same thing happening with the flights from Europe. I usually have paid between $2000 and $2500 and now the same tickets cost $3500. The prices have gone up with the fuel prices and travel industry recovering from Covid. It doesn't mean I have to say no to a Scandallo girl if I like her. Luckily those days are over when I first time went to Amsterdam and fucked 21 girls during 2,5 days.

[Hobbying]

Anyone here taken a Scandallo girl for a weekend trip to Santos? Is 3000 BRL a good price for the weekend?

Not much nice beaches in Santos. In any city in BR you will find working girls, why bring sand to the beach? Only if the price is right, multi days trip I offer no more than 1 k per day. If it is an exotic destination should be almost free LOL.

[The Cane]

I just checked. Prices from both US coasts to Sampa are about 1200 for coach, 3500 for business and 8-12 k for first. The difference is a lotta hours with a Scandallo garota LOL. Reminds me of a time where I had a business colleague who would boast that he never flew coach if he had to "spend the night on the plane". Later we were flying out of BsAs and sure enough, he's in coach. What's the deal I asked. He said, Did you see the crazy prices for First? I asked him how much money you have to have so that the fare difference is immaterial. " About 10 % more than you've got".

I just found round trip flights to GRU for 155,000 miles on United. Not too long ago it was just 120,000 miles. And it was even less than that during the worst of the pandemic. Got it covered easy either way hehehe! For my next upcoming long flight (it's not to Brazil) I found First Class seats on Delta for only 90,000 miles! Damn straight I booked that flight post haste months and months ago with Delta SkyMiles! Try to do it now and they would want over twice as much in miles (Delta is the worst for this kind of gouging sometimes)! It pays to look around and book early. It really, really does!

[OJeito]

I just checked. Prices from both US coasts to Sampa are about 1200 for coach, 3500 for business and 8-12 k for first. The difference is a lotta hours with a Scandallo garota LOL. Reminds me of a time where I had a business colleague who would boast that he never flew coach if he had to "spend the night on the plane". Later we were flying out of BsAs and sure enough, he's in coach. What's the deal I asked. He said, Did you see the crazy prices for First? I asked him how much money you have to have so that the fare difference is immaterial. " About 10 % more than you've got".

For anybody looking to get back to brasil ASAP on the cheap, Copa airlines has great deals on flights right now. Round trip from San Francisco to SP was 750 usd. My research tells me to avoid the main domestic carriers at all costs. Flights both domestic and international served on United, American, delta are all ridiculously priced at the moment.

[HarvestBoi]

I just checked. Prices from both US coasts to Sampa are about 1200 for coach, 3500 for business and 8-12 k for first. The difference is a lotta hours with a Scandallo garota LOL. Reminds me of a time where I had a business colleague who would boast that he never flew coach if he had to "spend the night on the plane". Later we were flying out of BsAs and sure enough, he's in coach. What's the deal I asked. He said, Did you see the crazy prices for First? I asked him how much money you have to have so that the fare difference is immaterial. " About 10 % more than you've got".

[NapataJohn]

For a solid 10 in beauty and bed, it's a good price. Maybe 2500 plus expenses, like transportation, meals and lodging.

Thanks let me work on that, it is reasonable.

[The Cane]

Cane, I get what you are saying.

It is all about what one wants limited only by what one can afford. I estimate that I am likely in the upper middle to upper range of ISG'ers financially speaking too. But that does not mean I have unlimited finances. I wish I did, but I don't. So, what do I want to do with my spending money? Well, in order of importance to me:

#1. I like to travel 3 to 4 months per year and punt as often as I like (usually 1 or 2 times a day) when I am in one of my favorite countries.

#2. I want to shag the prettiest, sexiest girls available. I don't care how much they cost as long as what they are asking me is in the ballpark price range for the venue and quality of girl I am fooling around with. That means I will pay market price for a Scandallo tier 1 girl anytime I want a tier 1 Scandallo girl and I will pay market price for a clinica girl anytime I want a clinica girl and I will do any girl in between if I want her.

#3. Given I have adequate cash set aside for #1 and #2 (my highest priorities), I prefer to stay in 5* hotels and then 4* hotels. I have various hotel CC's and Gold and Platinum memberships with Marriott, Hyatt, Hilton, so I get a lot of breaks on price with these boys like free point nights and free voucher nights plus these chains usually upgrade my reservation upon check-in to Excecutive class rooms and throw in free breakfasts. For example, I stayed at the SP Hyatt for 6 nights gratis in May and they upgraded my reservation to their 1 bedroom suite. It was a great deal.

On my upcoming 6 week SP trip this fall I have booked 6 nights at the Renaissance, 5 nights at the Hyatt, and 4 nights at the Hilton all on points. That still leaves a lot of nights unaccounted for and unfortunately, SP hotel rates have gone through the roof since I was last in town and I am not willing to shell out $200 to $300 per night on a 5 star hotel room. No problem, I have made reservations at some very nice 4 star hotels for around $100 per night. There is nothing wrong with my 4 stars. In fact, the rooms are quite nice and spacious and they have balconies which comes in handy on those nights when I am entertaining one of my sexy marijuanitas or she is entertaining me. KKK. Anyway, I think I made my point. I cut back on non-necessary expenses when I have to. If money were no object, I wouldn't care what the Renaissance or the Hyatt were charging and I would stay there.

#4. Plane travel: this is where my budget really hits the fan. I can't afford to do all that I want to do with #1, and #2 without being frugal on airfare. I like 1st class and business class especially on 24 hour flights to Thailand and the PI. But I can't afford everything on my list so no 1st class or business class for me. I do have miles with the big 3 US carriers and therefore I can usually fly coach for free except that extended legroom is a necessity for me, so I always pay cash for the upgrade. BTW, I hate flying and I especially hate flying coach, but flying 1st class would mean cutting back on #1 the length of my trips or # 2 the quality or quantity of my girls which is out of the question. Ha Ha.

So, that is how I prioritize my travel expenses based on my preferences and constrained only by my finances. I never spend more than I can afford to pay off on the due date. Nobody has exactly the same preferences or the same constraints. So, we all plan differently, but we all want to have the best time that we can afford.

Nor do I have unlimited finances. So, we all have to make choices right? I'm not crazy about flying either, but we all have to do it, especially if we want to travel internationally. I try to be as comfortable as I can, especially on those long flights. So, I'm almost always angling for the class of air travel with the most space that I can get and afford. But where I try to cut back is on my hotels and other expenses associated with the trip. So, typically I will choose a 3-star hotel, and sometimes a 4. I never rent cars and always take the least expensive means of local transportation available for getting around as long as it's not too inconvenient (not going to inconvenience myself to save an insignificant sum). That means usually relying on public transportation and / or relatively inexpensive taxis depending on where I am. In fact, I try to make sure my hotel choices are strategically placed to allow easy access to trains, subway stations, buses, plentiful taxis, etc. (I really need to start using Uber more).

I like to enjoy an occasional nice meal here and there, but I mostly keep meals cheap and inexpensive. And all so that I can have more cash on hand to do the #2 (shag the prettiest girls per my personal tastes)! But, our posts show how we're all different, even if we might be of similar economic means. You like to go for the higher end hotels and cut back on the air travel costs. On the other hand, I cut back on the hotel quality and spend more on the air travel portion. And then I do all sorts of other things to control my costs (as you and most others do) so that I have the money I'll need for lots of anal sex with lots and lots of Brazilian girls who I find to be very attractive LOLOLOL! And remember. If I'm getting that cuzinha 70% of the time? I'm bashing that buceta 100% of the time! OK? Hahaha! Carry on!

[Fewdie]

I think I see what went wrong with the one on Friday and the one that you mentioned is "cold". Its not your fault or hers. Its more of the language barrier because Brazilians express themselves and communicate different in portuguese than in English. They use a lot of slangs and expressions when they speak with lots of humor while in english it's more straight forward. Many of them can speak basic english but they are like a completely different person when its in English or in Portuguese. Similar to speaking with the french, we have to be FRENCH FLUENT to have a great conversation with them or else they arent that interested. Also know that 2 days is actually a very long time. Unless you have a lot of activities aligned, the conversation will get dry very quickly.

Following up on my plan to try Scandallo as it was meant to be experienced, I showed up just before 7 pm on Thursday night (which various girls have said to be the most popular). While walking around the club, I finally saw a girl which triggered my "go" instinct. We had a good conversation, then went up for my first room experience at the club. Overall it was ok. She was hot by my standards (maybe 8. 5) but the experience itself was methodical and clinical mostly despite the good conversation and initial chemistry. We exchanged contact information.

I had a nice chat with a guy from Miami on a business trip (the social highlight of the evening). And then found the girl I sessioned with 3 x last week (the cold, hot one). She was mildly warmer as my Portuguese improved and I decided to take her up the rooms as well because I wanted another go before going home. Again, hot, but methodical and clinical. I actually asked why she was cold, and she said that's just her way while working and she wouldn't be with her boyfriend (when she has one). Respectable choice, albeit unprofessional.

What's the conclusion? Unless you've had a few drinks or the girl is not hot, the hot ones seem to be mediocre experiences. I did not leave particularly satisfied. I suspect the guys who rave about the performance here are either drinking or not going after the hot girls.

Another notable observation is that after coming down around 10:30-11 pm, the club had changed completely. People were no longer outside drinking and smoking, but inside at the party area. There were also way more women, including some very hot (but blonde) ones with smoking bodies. Maybe these are the girls who actually provide good service and are hot? Will come back on a later day to test this theory out.

Encouraged by my good conversation with the first girl, I invited her to my hotel on Friday. This was the best conversation and best sex so far with a Scandallo girl. I decided to book her for the next two days, which turned out to be a big mistake. While we hit up some good restaurants on Saturday, she became progressively more bored (using Instagram more often) and put less effort into sex or conversation. Maybe I'm getting older but it seems Instagram is a plague on a person's personality, either making them utterly bored with normal conversations or care about meaningless crap memes.

It didn't matter that I was interested in her life, trying to understand what she wanted and offering what ideas I had that might help. She was dead bored (20 years old) and I ended up letting her go early on Sunday morning after she decided she didn't like kissing. I also made the rookie mistake of paying her for both days on Sunday morning (before the second day was over). Both the girls I saw at Scandallo, despite being hot, generally failed to put in much effort to the experience. It reminded me of the kids who didn't like being at school, just showing up and getting by with as little effort as possible. Probably the mindset of a lot of escorts.

I ended up scheduling with a girl from a sugar dating site, and she flaked. Then I scheduled a second girl from the same site, and she was completely different from her pictures. Great conversation (the best of any girl) but she was quite average and enthusiasm never makes up for that (for me). Basically the rest of the day was a disaster However, I'm doing a new thing now where I tell them to send me a 5-10 second video where they say Hi to me using my name. I'm hoping this will weed out some of the fake accounts and fake pictures. We'll see. I've tried to do video calls before but these turn into as much of a production to schedule as the date itself to the point where it's not practical.

I have another sugar date scheduled for tomorrow and likely one for Wednesday. If these don't work out, I'll use Scandallo as a backup (or Bomboa, which is now walking distance from my Airbnb). Sampa continues to provide so many options, it's hard not to love it here.

[Fewdie]

All of the McDonalds in Brazil are a lot fancier, cleaner, and higher end than the ones in the US. I still would never pay 40 reais for a Big Mac when its 2. 5 dollars in the US. With 40 reais, you can get a really good healthy quality meal.

[Fewdie]

No, the market and inflation are not even close to that level yet. 1 k for the whole day and if they don't agree, I can find someone else at the same quality / level / whatever or even better who would agree. Whether at Scandallo or other venues / clubs / bars / sites / etc. No I'm not talking about clinicas level and will never go to places like that. I don't get that "fear of missing out" because I know there are so many that would. Once the market moves up there then yes I would.

If you can choose any girl you want in Brazil, is there a girl you will pay 1500 BRL/hr for?

[Axel Heyst]

Cane, I get what you are saying.

It is all about what one wants limited only by what one can afford. I estimate that I am likely in the upper middle to upper range of ISG'ers financially speaking too. But that does not mean I have unlimited finances. I wish I did, but I don't. So, what do I want to do with my spending money? Well, in order of importance to me:

#1. I like to travel 3 to 4 months per year and punt as often as I like (usually 1 or 2 times a day) when I am in one of my favorite countries.

#2. I want to shag the prettiest, sexiest girls available. I don't care how much they cost as long as what they are asking me is in the ballpark price range for the venue and quality of girl I am fooling around with. That means I will pay market price for a Scandallo tier 1 girl anytime I want a tier 1 Scandallo girl and I will pay market price for a clinica girl anytime I want a clinica girl and I will do any girl in between if I want her.

#3. Given I have adequate cash set aside for #1 and #2 (my highest priorities), I prefer to stay in 5* hotels and then 4* hotels. I have various hotel CC's and Gold and Platinum memberships with Marriott, Hyatt, Hilton, so I get a lot of breaks on price with these boys like free point nights and free voucher nights plus these chains usually upgrade my reservation upon check-in to Excecutive class rooms and throw in free breakfasts. For example, I stayed at the SP Hyatt for 6 nights gratis in May and they upgraded my reservation to their 1 bedroom suite. It was a great deal.

On my upcoming 6 week SP trip this fall I have booked 6 nights at the Renaissance, 5 nights at the Hyatt, and 4 nights at the Hilton all on points. That still leaves a lot of nights unaccounted for and unfortunately, SP hotel rates have gone through the roof since I was last in town and I am not willing to shell out $200 to $300 per night on a 5 star hotel room. No problem, I have made reservations at some very nice 4 star hotels for around $100 per night. There is nothing wrong with my 4 stars. In fact, the rooms are quite nice and spacious and they have balconies which comes in handy on those nights when I am entertaining one of my sexy marijuanitas or she is entertaining me. KKK. Anyway, I think I made my point. I cut back on non-necessary expenses when I have to. If money were no object, I wouldn't care what the Renaissance or the Hyatt were charging and I would stay there.

#4. Plane travel: this is where my budget really hits the fan. I can't afford to do all that I want to do with #1, and #2 without being frugal on airfare. I like 1st class and business class especially on 24 hour flights to Thailand and the PI. But I can't afford everything on my list so no 1st class or business class for me. I do have miles with the big 3 US carriers and therefore I can usually fly coach for free except that extended legroom is a necessity for me, so I always pay cash for the upgrade. BTW, I hate flying and I especially hate flying coach, but flying 1st class would mean cutting back on #1 the length of my trips or # 2 the quality or quantity of my girls which is out of the question. Ha Ha.

So, that is how I prioritize my travel expenses based on my preferences and constrained only by my finances. I never spend more than I can afford to pay off on the due date. Nobody has exactly the same preferences or the same constraints. So, we all plan differently, but we all want to have the best time that we can afford.

[HiddenEye]

For a solid 10 in beauty and bed, it's a good price. Maybe 2500 plus expenses, like transportation, meals and lodging.

Anyone here taken a Scandallo girl for a weekend trip to Santos? Is 3000 BRL a good price for the weekend?

[WyattEarp]

If you can choose any girl you want in Brazil, is there a girl you will pay 1500 BRL/hr for?

That's rather a silly question. Tiazinha in her prime immediately comes to mind.