Sao Paulo Reports

[DustyRode]

That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.

I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.

There is a waiter at Bomboa. He was a good guy and was always there when I needed a drink. He asked me for a tip when I checked out to leave. I was paying the girl and he came over and asked if I could give him a tip as well. I did. It was no big deal. I never tipped anywhere else in Brazil except for the Uber drivers.

[KilledSoul]

I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing.


This is definitely not Asia or Africa.

This is the main reason why I will stick to Colombia instead of Brazil as almost all chicas will do bareback after two sessions.

[Nounce]

...My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT...

That is not quite correct. Some restaurants will add 10-13% service charge to your bill. Some will ask you if you want service charge included. You can decline. There is a discussion about tipping at Bombia too.

I don't think there is a dress code requirement at clinicas. I wear shorts all the time, and never have a problem. Some customers may go to clinica during break or after work, then they may be more formal. If one observes that, then one would think that is how a customer should dress.

[Nounce]

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Any body used Lotus Lounge before?

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That is how the pricing work in high end clinicas. I won't go to Lotus lounge because there is no consistency and even water costs twice as palm, LOL. It's a gamble. You may get a room and a girl like a low price clinica. It's not worth it. I would just to go Scandallo.

[Nounce]

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Oh! One more thing. I know that taking a cab / Uber to the clubs can incur an extra cost to some Boates. What about leaving? Is it better to walk a few blocks and order a ride? Or is that inviting getting mugged at 3 am?

That is not something you need to worry about. There is no extra cost. The only thing that you really have to look out for near Casarao is your phone, keep your distance away from people on bicycle.

[Combo]

What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?

There's no need to spend anywhere close to that money. Also BBBJs are the norm in Brasil, moreso than in Colombia (though you're always best confirming with the chick beforehand). With regard to BBFS, I do not look for it, regardless of the country. The guy you refer to sounds like a sucker.

[Septimius]

1) Why don't you RTFF and take note of some of the joints that receive positive reports? Then google the fucking name. Example: Abboboro, Sao Paulo. If you are really feeling industrious, you can make your own Google map.


4) Dress Code? Ha Ha. SP is all about the weather. If it is warm out, a clean nice-looking t-shirt, jeans, and running shoes are fine, but it can get chilly at night, so pack a good fall jacket in your suitcase just in case. No boate girl will look down on you for wearing a sporty shirt with a collar. Being in shape and having good hygiene is far more important than what you wear.

Hello there. I've never been to Brazil but I'm planning a trip and have been reading the Rio and San Paulo forums along with General info and places to stay. Most of the information I'm looking for I have found but I still have about 100 pages left until I catch up to the current times! My questions are pretty general and I was wondering about the clothing thing. I'm a shorts guy and hate wearing jeans. While the nicer establishments like Scandallo require a nice shirt and a pair of jeans how about some of the clinicas? Will I stick out like a sore thumb wearing shorts just walking around town? I'm always hot and unless it's below 40 degreesF, I'm good.

My other question is about tips. Now I recall reading on here that tips are not part of the culture in Brazil and that tipping a girl is not required. Do you guys ever tip at restaurants or normal bars for GREAT service? If so what's a normal rate?

My plan is to visit some of the places mentioned on here and dive right in! For me, there's always a certain amount of uncertainty when mongering to new destinations but I'm in love with Brazilian women and I need to check this place out!

[Axel Heyst]

I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing. Another regular agreed, only to insist on coitus interruptus later when we were at it. A bit unexpected considering these girls were otherwise happy-go-lucky with forbidden substances ...

Valeria, my favorite Scandallo girl, told me it was fear of pregnancy that was her primary hindering block to our having bareback sex. Who fuck knows if this is true or not, KKK, I don't even try follow the logic in the mind of a working girl, but after our 10th or 12th time together, we barebacked.

SP ain't Makati, Phnom, Yangon, or CGK that's for sure, but I still like it here.

[Krilimag]

Fellow mongers and others wanted to run this by you all for your thoughts. I am planning a clinica visit and started the WhatsApp chatter. I got into a clinica named Lotus Lounge great looking chicas but when the pricing comes on the responder is quoting me for: 380 reales for the room plus another 400 reales for the therapist. Total of 780 reales for one hour. Is this the norm? Or Lotus Lounge not a clinica?

Meanwhile I have been corresponding with Dubai Spa and also not bad selection of chicas and the pricing scheme is 300 reales for cash or 330 reales for card for the hour. No additional room charges.

Would you experts shed some light into this.

Seems that if there are two charges (girl + room) in clinicas, then it is almost up there like Scandallo.

Any body used Lotus Lounge before?

TY in advance.

[GattoRojo]

I apologize GR if my post came down too hard on you. But just mentioning "strip clubs" in the same paragraph as SP Boates is like pouring nitro glycerin on a barbeque. It sets me on fire. KKK.

Not at all, man! You also gave good advice while slapping my wrist, all good! It's your country / city. If anything, it helps me know how to approach it all. Just like knowing how to respectfully approach hobbying in Japan makes all the difference in whether you have a good soapy time or get treated like an "Ugly-American".

I don't mind throwing down some money if it's all in pursuit of a unique experience, and from all accounts, Scandello seems to be just that. I'll have to see what dinners cost when I get there, but at least I know going in that it's not going to be the trash "buffet" that I was worried about. I do like to hang out after a session, if it doesn't feel weird. Sometimes, soloing makes you stand out, and sometimes it doesn't matter. I'll figure it out. Like you say, I'll only know once I'm there.

Casarao opens at 10 until 5 or 6 in the morning. You don't want to go too early. It is more like casa than a boate because the popular girls fuck multiple guys per night. You can observe near the door, and you can sometimes see experienced mongers wait there and scoop them up right after the girl just have a session. I met a group of expats did exactly that, They would only pay for dry entry, fuck then leave.

Appreciate both of your insights into Casarao. Sometimes that kind of "immediate action" is fun. I didn't realize that there was a "dry entry" option. I wonder if that will even be offered to a non-Portuguese speaking gringo?

At the end of the day, I think I have a pretty decent idea now of the larger landscape.

Oh! One more thing. I know that taking a cab / Uber to the clubs can incur an extra cost to some Boates. What about leaving? Is it better to walk a few blocks and order a ride? Or is that inviting getting mugged at 3 am?

[Steve 9696]

What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?

Nothing comes close in terms of luxe vibe and number of legit hotties. Imagine the nicest club you have ever been to, with live band and party atmosphere. Add a huge terrace. Add a 3. 5 star hotel attached. Add that every girl in the club wants to fuck you. Voila. Scandallo.

While websites are often misleading, Scandallo's is spot on. This virtual tour will give you an idea.

http://scandallolounge.com.br/tour-virtual/

Note that it’s interactive and u can virtually walk around the club.

[Steve 9696]

I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing. Another regular agreed, only to insist on coitus interruptus later when we were at it. A bit unexpected considering these girls were otherwise happy-go-lucky with forbidden substances ...

A girl I have been in contact with since 2021 was telling me once about a sex night in a dedicated motel with 2 other girls and 1 customer. The price tab for the customer had been 10 thousand euro, including the hotel, the girls, plus xstasy and coke. When I said for that price at least the guy could go bareback she said no. I found this flabbergasting. I thought of all the young pussy I could bareback in Thailand for that kind of money (without xtasy or coke, but with legal cannabis which is also not too bad).


This is definitely not Asia or Africa.

Well aware this is the SP forum but sometimes worldwide insights are welcome. I agree BBBJ and CFS is the norm for me in Brazil. And works for me. If you want bareback apparently the place to go is Jakarta. Shithole city but apparently lovely and inexpensive ladies and a ton of bareback and CIP if that is your thing. Very active forum.

[XXL]

I can only speak with statistical accuracy of Boate, Clinica, Terma and high-end Escort girls and sadly 90% of the girls I have been with have insisted on CFS at least on our 1st time together with only 1 in 30 (3%) of the no's willing to accept a 100 to 200 tip offer to go bareback. BBBJ's are still the default, however. This is the only complaint I have with Brazilian girls. If you are like some of my pals over in the Asian ISG forums, then Brazil is not for you.

I'm glad I was not the only one to find getting bareback even with regular girls very difficult in SP. I had a regular of mine stringing me along, agreeing only if I did loads of tests, in the end still refusing. Another regular agreed, only to insist on coitus interruptus later when we were at it. A bit unexpected considering these girls were otherwise happy-go-lucky with forbidden substances ...

A girl I have been in contact with since 2021 was telling me once about a sex night in a dedicated motel with 2 other girls and 1 customer. The price tab for the customer had been 10 thousand euro, including the hotel, the girls, plus xstasy and coke. When I said for that price at least the guy could go bareback she said no. I found this flabbergasting. I thought of all the young pussy I could bareback in Thailand for that kind of money (without xtasy or coke, but with legal cannabis which is also not too bad).


This is definitely not Asia or Africa.

[Nounce]

What does it have exactly? I read on a different forum a guy gave one girl from there 5000 USD for the week, and pointed out he only did CBJ / CFS. I don't bar hop or goto clubs even in the states, so no experience and outfit. What would be the expectation to go or do the girls make it easy for those reserved individuals?

You are generalizing the worst case. It is more likely to happen at La Isla in Medellin, Scandallo is the opposite. It can easily be avoided. You can't be too shy. I posted about it many times.

[Nounce]

Thanks! 11 pm, eh? I mean, I can swing it, I suppose. I'm not usually a super late-night guy, but on work trips, I am often out until 2 or 3, plus I will have the time zone difference working in my favor. Is that just the boates? I was kind of thinking I'd hit up clinicas in the day-time and then aim for the higher-end experience after dinner.

Cafe Photo is on the "I need to learn more" list.

You have to see it yourself and decide on your own. Or you need to identify with the poster that matches your style.

Scandallo opens at noon with only cafeteria and the bar and the small outdoor patio. There are fewer girls. There is a shift change round 8 or 9 PM. Then the club and the outdoor area will open. The live music in the club area starts around 11 PM for about an hour, then an hour break, then another hour of live music. This is not exact but this gives you an idea of the flow.

I go when I can and don't wait until a specific time. 11 is peak hour and can be packed. Sometimes you can't even find a seat in the restaurant.

Casarao opens at 10 until 5 or 6 in the morning. You don't want to go too early. It is more like casa than a boate because the popular girls fuck multiple guys per night. You can observe near the door, and you can sometimes see experienced mongers wait there and scoop them up right after the girl just have a session. I met a group of expats did exactly that, They would only pay for dry entry, fuck then leave.